HORRIBLE HISTORIES - Historical Hospitals: Medieval doctor

[RandomGuy3286]

@HolyknightVader999 I release all your points are biased towards the crusaders, but let me make it clear during the Reconquista period (muslim spain vs christian spain), the jews actually assisted the muslims, which I found quite odd (they actually offered to help), also about the syrian - orthodox monks translating their stuff from greek>arabic (helping the arabs), not being biased but do you really think that the christians/crusaders would really be bothered to do such thing.

[Mr1helluvabutlr]

i want the arabian one

[1namster]

I can't believe Matt would do this

[kak672]

So ironic!

[TheStephrules]

i like the arabian doctor he makes people feel a lot better

[kkamagwi]

....and that is about as far as the "superior" Arab technology got. Where do you want to be treated now?  Egypt or England?

[pyrohound13]

@kkamagwi Don't compare modern situations with ancient ones- a lot has happened between the Middle Ages and today that have not only influenced medicine, but also entire cultures and politics as well. Rather, let us admire the fact that there was a civilization in the Middle Ages that successfully dealt with abscesses in the first place without sawing off limbs.

[MsThemuh]

The Primitive fool? What the european guy is far more primite. 

[eidius1989]

@MsThemuh during the middle ages Europeans were really backwards and quite barbaric. ever since the fall of the western roman empire they went through a lot of shit like dark ages and etc. it was in the east where the arabs, romans(eastern), Persians, Turks and the other middle-eastern ethnicities that thrived technologically and economically.

[Dracofangstudios]

:l this hospital must have lawsuits up the ass but on another note i heard this lady got an expensive surgery in india and had none of the complications assosiated with it and it was cheeper

[GloryZombie]

Yeah, European medicine was surprisingly primitive for quite a long while. If you wanted a good doctor back then, you wanted an Arab or a Jew.

[ItsMoriashkiBitches]

I laughed my head off, matt's accent is soooooo sexy

[ItsMoriashkiBitches]

why are the europeans always the dumbest in history?

[snapdragon11]

@ItsMoriashkiBitches The catholic repressing the sciences mostly. But don't worry, we sent all the really dumb and violent ones to america.

[TheTraumarama2]

@snapdragon11

(Sarcasm) Yeah, thanks a lot for sending them all here.

[ChivKnight]

@snapdragon11

And damn you to hell for it!

[LilyMoth12]

Proves that the arabain's were smarter than Europeans!

[WeAreTheRiot]

@LilyMoth12

Think about it. Western Europe's a savage wasteland of brainwashed, uneducated, fearful rats to the Pope while the Byzantine Empire/Romania/Eastern Roman Empire, Chinese, Indians, and Muslims have knowledge, medicine, philosophy, ECONOMY, and stable politics. It really isn't until the Renaissance that the Western Europeans decides to say "Fuck this". The fall of Byzantium and Arab Caliphate led to the Western Europeans to expand in power, philosophy and technology.

[TheTraumarama2]

What is with our Western doctors and amputation?

[googoojnr]

they missed the bit where the woman has a headake

[1tobedoneX]

Islam doctors were better.

[Haydutin]

sure, european medicine was bad back then if you dont count the romans(byzantines) as european...

[POTCMarc101]

Wow its good thing we got good doctors today o___O

[andrielisilien]

Where's the next patient? O.O

[TheSilver19991]

why is the crusader doctor german?? i thought they were english...or british at least...

[e0o9kii]

@TheSilver19991 The Crusaders came from around Europe. They were a combined European force from (modern day) England, France, Germany, Italy and other (mostly) Western European countries.

The Crusaders were a European-Christian who coalition who fought the Arabs in the Middle East (mostly in Israel) over the control of Jerusalem.

The Arabs wanted Jerusalem to be Muslim and the Europeans wanted Jerusalem to be Christian.

[alikos88]

@e0o9kii

not to mention those back stabbing nordic bastards invaded and pillaged CHRISTIAN Byzantium...nordic baboons...yes I am talking about those bloody Saxons, French, Teutons and Angles. Always been hostile to Eastern Orthodoxy

[MenwithHill]

Any monotheistic religion limits the advancement of science by censorship and fear of new ideas. This is what happened in Europe when Christianity became the law and order. But meanwhile, the arab countries made terrific advancement in science, medicine, astronomy, especially in Egypt, a rather stable and tolerant country. Some discoveries, like the works of Ibn Al-Haytham (Almost describing the photon, in 1020) were stoning... until Islam came around the VIIIth century and fucked up everything.

[6Lily8Evans9]

@MenwithHill Ibn Al-Haytham was a Muslim himself. He was born in 965 AD, 354 AH (the Islamic calendar) in Albasra, Iraq.

Islam actually encourages seeking knowledge, which is evident in what the prophet (pbuh) says: For whomever travels a road seeking knowledge Allah shall create a path to paradise".

Alkhawarizmi (inventor of Algebra and the man from whose name the word "algorithm" comes), and Jabr Ibn-Hayyan (Alchemy, Chemistry, medicine and pharmacology) are two other Muslim scientists.

[Jazzy081557708]

we watched this in our history lesson today XD

[PalleRasmussen]

Not only did they do this, this is actually based around a true story. I have it in McKay- Hill- Buckler's "History of Western Society" (since retitled to the less Eurocentric, "History of World Society")

[HolyknightVader999]

Medieval monks and Nuns also did the same thing with their medicine; they also relied on herbs, even before contact with the Muslim world.

Also, during the development of Muslim science, Syrian orthodox monks helped Muslim scientists by translating all Greek texts of science into Arabic and helping develop the arabic alphabet.

[6Lily8Evans9]

@HolyknightVader999 Wasn't the Arabic alphabet already developed at the time?

[SallyLeanneBriars]

Gotta love Lawry :D

[Nutz320]

What episode is this?

[Gamerevolutiontuts]

Can I have the arabian doctor please?

[johnson1095]

@Gamerevolutiontuts

he looks like Azimat from Borat lol

[FNGLHR]

I loved these books when I was a kid, I read this skit back in the day, funniest thing I read. "Never get sick in England"

Seeing it live action is even funnier.

[fedelede2]

@FNGLHR Same here!

[vanillaorchid]

Alexei Sayle!

[hinamoriamulover]

ben is always the paitent

[12PixieDust]

'No I make these noises when i'm happy' LOL XD

[consealedgirl]

two weeks until school starts and what the hell am i doing? watching horrible histories and actully learning o.O

[beinghumangirl]

when he said wash the bain out with salt my mum cryed NOO

[LOVESMATBAYNTON]

Nice lawry and mat look so cute in this

[BahamutDKing]

Shame the middle east has never left the middle ages thou lets see them stand against western medicine today.

[HojoOSanagi]

If you're going to have a European doctor, make sure he pretended to be a Jew and got a degree from a Middle Eastern institution.

[simpsonnextdoor]

I have a bad cut on my thumb from 2 days ago! I wish I had some healing herbs to make it better. Then the European doctor can chop it off afterwards! Thumbs up if you all agree with me!

[L1ZZ1771]

Holy crap, is that Alexei Sayle?

[Musikkingofthecookie]

ZAT PRIMITIVE FOOL, BLEH!

[yinge101]

AWW? Where's the second bit?!!

[nazifahmed]

The person who disliked was a European doctor

[Transporter6970]

U missed another person

[rexana]

It wasn't just medicine the Arabians were more advanced in, they were way ahead in other things too. Same with ancient China, they had massive public libraries when the king of England would only own one or two books.

A lot of other places made Europe look like they were still banging each other over the head with clubs. No wonder we got taken over by Rome, we were still living in huts made of mud and shit while they had stone villas, central heating, and plumbing.

[philessexuk]

@rexana well lets face Europe would have been just as advanced but as soon as Rome collapsed Europe went into the age on non advancement :/

[JuniusFaction]

Credit where credit is due: the Arabians had some decent medicine for their time

[thethistleandtherose]

if on the one in a trillion chance this happens to me i would rather have an Arab medieval doctor than a christian one, the christian ones were just terrible and dirty!

[SuperHHlover]

love this vid lol :D

[TheTGGuy13]

GO MATTHEW!

[Steve210198]

I read about this in Stormin' Normans

[gradgurl2007]

Go Bro Cadfael!

[MrQwerky]

@IINAYDGOII yr 10 and 11 had this exam today 7th june did u lots to

[10Rosemary]

@IINAYDGOII good luck.... let me know how it goes

[babolatkiwi]

The bowl cut looks good on him...

[muna5256]

god this made me laugh alot!

[unurautare2]

Hahahaha,Doctor Nutpack is fancy! :))

[luckyprince164]

i scare to go to the hospital now

[MsLiew1901]

European retard . . .

[Nyghtshade409]

A lot of desert-dwelling groups, along with the Chinese, had much better healing remedies than the so-called 'civilized' Europeans, not to mention better cleanliness! More people should have listened to them.

[luckyprince164]

and just i begin to historical hospital

[KevlarNinja]

I read about this in Measly Middle Ages. Can Middle Ages English doctors say 'Fail'?

[Musikkingofthecookie]

@KevlarNinja Of course they can

Fail is a shortening for failure, which came from the word flail, a large weapon rescembling a mace with a chain attached. When someone would ''fail'' they would be hit with a flail, which took its name from the great king Theodor Flailicus! :3

[KevlarNinja]

@Musikkingofthecookie Really, or was that a joke? BTW It was a retorical question.

[Musikkingofthecookie]

@KevlarNinja retorical or retarded? naah just messing with ya, pal :3

[KevlarNinja]

@Musikkingofthecookie lol

[superellieboo]

^_^ i would so cut off someones leg :) lol lol jk jk

[Auge2011]

The arabian doctors at middle ages were certainly better than europeans

[ViccardXViccc]

@Auge2011 Yes, they absolutely were. Muslims translated the Greek and Latin medical books into Arabic and studied them. The Crusaders 'hospitals' were more like slaughter houses -_-

[darkmagelover]

@ViccardXViccc not only did thay translate thay added on with alot of success :)

[dim432]

@ViccardXViccc thats right, i think we should have the arabinas coming to britain to heal all the hospitals.

instead of stafford Hospital

[KevlarNinja]

@ViccardXViccc Nothing more funny then dumbasses calling the smart guys dumb.

[l0rf]

@Auge2011 Definitely! The middle east in general kicked our medieval asses when it came to science, philosophy, freedom of speech, just about everything. Most 'modern' concepts came from the Saracens and were brought to Europe by the Crusaders. Shame it turned into religious fanaticism for them just as Europe left that dark, really stupid age of christian oppression.

[heahashemi]

@l0rf yes I agree with what you said

[faro0485]

@Auge2011 And would you look at that... EU bans many herbs. Another one for horrible histories, oops it was only last month.

[heahashemi]

@Auge2011 yeah they had advanced medicine, some of their inventions are still used 'till today, I think something about cats guts and silk or something

[HolyknightVader999]

@Auge2011 Actually, they were the same; Islamic science was the inspiration for many Medieval medicines, since they had access to such texts due to the Crusades. It was only through the work of Catholics like Andreas Velisalius and Louis Pasteur that we got accurate medicine. Muslims preserved Galen's works, but didn't lift a finger to improve or verify them.

[Albukhshi]

actually, they did: e.g. the earliest accurate descriptions of how the eye (and how to treat them), heart (ibn al-nafis), lungs, etc work are derived from Islamic era writings, contrary to Galen's et al' beliefs on the matter.

however, as you correctly point out, they didn't take what they found to the furthest level, as happened later in Europe. part of the reason was that practical based medicine began to be looked at negatively b/c of changes in post medieval (post 13th cent) Islamic society

[HolyknightVader999]

@Albukhshi And that's the problem. For four hundred years Christian Pilgrims and Muslim warlords were friends. Until the eleventh century came along, and the Turks kept slaughtering all the pilgrims, which pissed off the pope and started the Crusades.

[Albukhshi]

actually, the changes I refer to were in part the result of Mongol invasions in that period (13th century), followed by the rise of the Ottoman Empire. details are sadly beyond the scope of the comment.

I thought the crusades were a response to an appeal by the Byzantine emperor, not Pilgrim killing in itself, which occurred in the early 11th century (by Al-hakim bi-'amr-allah a fatimid, not Turk). Later rulers in the region did reverse this, though I imagine the damage was done. sad really

[HolyknightVader999]

@Albukhshi It wasn't just the Christians suffering. Muslim warlords made a gradual shift from enlightened tolerance to puritanical totalitarianism forcing all Muslims to follow rules or die; by the time of the 12th Century, Muslims had it so bad that despite the fact that the Crusaders in the capture of Jerusalem by murdered all the Muslims there, Muslims STILL wanted to live there after the Crusaders took over since the Crusaders who allowed Muslims back in ruled them in Lassie-fair style.

[Albukhshi]

ah, I see your point now regarding the massacres. yeah, that would be correct. but IIRC it still wasn't the immediate/sole catalyst.

that is true regarding Ibn Jubayr. though I must add-for clarification's sake, that Ibn Jubayr also praises Saladdin-the one exception to the rule at the time. you are right though: there was indeed a shift towards a more hard-lined attitude over that time-period. sad really

and I said nothing about Monk's usage of herbs; my comments were just on the middle east.

[PalleRasmussen]

@Albukhshi War usually leads to a hardening of attitudes...

[Albukhshi]

@PalleRasmussen

yeah, with the whole mongol invasion and crusades. that is true.

[HolyknightVader999]

@Albukhshi The Byzantine Emperor exaggerated accounts of real persecutions to make it look like a holocaust. He needed to do so since the Pope really isn't his best friend. The two churches of Christendom split just decades ago.

[HolyknightVader999]

@Albukshi "The Muslims own their own houses and rule themselves in their own way. This is the way the farms and big villages are organized in Frankish territory. Many Muslims are sorely tempted to settle here when they see the far from comfortable conditions in which their brethren live in the districts under Muslim rule." ibn Jubayr, Muslim traveler and scholar.