If you were hanging from a ledge and someone was there to pull you up, would you do a kipping pull up to recover, or would you grab his hand and have him pull you over? And with that being said, why not just have someone stand on top of the pullup bar and have him pull your dudes up instead of kipping? After all, that's the more "functional" way to get up there.
...And another thing about the whole "functional movement" thing: Let's say you were in some crazy (God forbid) Cliffhanger-style, life-threatening situation where you had to pull yourself up onto some ledge or something. Would you be focused on your freaking strict form, or are you going to use every muscle and ounce of strength and momentum you can muster to get yourself to safety? I'm saying one would use strict kipping form, but I'm not going to be thinking about what I would do in the gym.
I don't understand all the CrossFit (and kipping) hate. I did a bodybuilding-type split routine (always incorporating strict pullups on back day) for approximately a decade when I decided to give CF a try just to switch things up. I've actually increased my rep range on strict pullups since I've been doing the kip. There is honestly nothing wrong with either technique, just like there is nothing wrong with either CrossFit or whatever weightlifting routine you choose. Correct form is key.
as a gymnastics coach I use some of these progressions for bars skills such as power casts, tap swings and actual kips. seems strange to use this for pull ups seeming how people learn to do cheats by themselves. But I have to commend the use of solid gymnastics drills!!!
Read mens health..great article. It is 2 different movements, if you don't want to be open minded no problem. Don't do a kip, don't try anything new and stay..KINDA FIT...no problem. But stop the freaking trash talk
Wow, so much arguing. I don't see why you can't do BOTH kinds. Do strict pull-ups and kips? They seem completely different. Kips don't REPLACE strict pullups. I can't do kipping pull-ups yet but I can do normal ones. When I learn to kip I'm not going to replace one with the other.
The kipping pullup is a functional movement: I violently contort my body while hanging from a bar every day. You also use more muscles in a kipping pullup than in a strict one, because momentum, which is responsible for most of the work, is apparently a muscle now. Why build lat strength when you can twitch like a retard? Thank you, exercise sage, for clearing that up for everyone.
So tomsilver, please post your "hard work" and while you are at it, please tell us how many "strict" pull ups you can do in a row. Wait, better yet, give us a video so we can critique your technique, if you are brave enough to put your money where your mouth is.....
KIPPING =ITS JUST WEAK ASS BIT##CHES THINKING THEIR DOING SOMETHING WITHOUT PUTTING IN ANY HARD WORK. AS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT REFERENCE THREE WILL NEVER BE A BAR TO SWING ON IN REAL LIFE. ITS ALAYS A WALL OR FENCE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SWINGING..
@tomsilver you're 100 percent right, these are fake swings so that "crossfitters" can say they can do pullups while they can do none.... and YES in law enforcement or army, there won't be any bar to swing on--there will be a wall, when you're chasing someone (or being chased).
@xanyxxxx Iam a crossfitter, but kipping is just bs. you can be just as explosive and fast with a regular pull up, its just harder. If you havent seen Hannibal's pull up videos you should check them out, he just shows how regular pull ups gives you wicked strength.
Otherwise known as "not a pull up." Why don't crossfitters ever do real pull ups? What do they have against getting strong?
thedude2979 1 week ago
Way to exaggerate the number of pull-ups a person can do, try doing a real one Ha!
whowawoo 2 weeks ago
kipping is shit
car9melo 1 month ago
If you were hanging from a ledge and someone was there to pull you up, would you do a kipping pull up to recover, or would you grab his hand and have him pull you over? And with that being said, why not just have someone stand on top of the pullup bar and have him pull your dudes up instead of kipping? After all, that's the more "functional" way to get up there.
HebrewTaija 1 month ago
*I'm not saying one would use strict kipping form...
angrykoolaidman 1 month ago
...And another thing about the whole "functional movement" thing: Let's say you were in some crazy (God forbid) Cliffhanger-style, life-threatening situation where you had to pull yourself up onto some ledge or something. Would you be focused on your freaking strict form, or are you going to use every muscle and ounce of strength and momentum you can muster to get yourself to safety? I'm saying one would use strict kipping form, but I'm not going to be thinking about what I would do in the gym.
angrykoolaidman 1 month ago
I don't understand all the CrossFit (and kipping) hate. I did a bodybuilding-type split routine (always incorporating strict pullups on back day) for approximately a decade when I decided to give CF a try just to switch things up. I've actually increased my rep range on strict pullups since I've been doing the kip. There is honestly nothing wrong with either technique, just like there is nothing wrong with either CrossFit or whatever weightlifting routine you choose. Correct form is key.
angrykoolaidman 1 month ago
as a gymnastics coach I use some of these progressions for bars skills such as power casts, tap swings and actual kips. seems strange to use this for pull ups seeming how people learn to do cheats by themselves. But I have to commend the use of solid gymnastics drills!!!
Javeriffic 1 month ago
Read mens health..great article. It is 2 different movements, if you don't want to be open minded no problem. Don't do a kip, don't try anything new and stay..KINDA FIT...no problem. But stop the freaking trash talk
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DOLPHIN PULL UPS IS A CHEATING WAY TO GET MORE PULL UPS, IT MAKES IT EASIER, AND USUALLY DONE BY BEGGINERS.
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nyone who can't do 10 dead hang pullups has no business kipping due to the risk of SLAP tears to the shoulder
Shoxjie 2 months ago
Wow, so much arguing. I don't see why you can't do BOTH kinds. Do strict pull-ups and kips? They seem completely different. Kips don't REPLACE strict pullups. I can't do kipping pull-ups yet but I can do normal ones. When I learn to kip I'm not going to replace one with the other.
questions117 2 months ago
What incredible bullshit.
gophermaster 3 months ago
The kipping pullup is a functional movement: I violently contort my body while hanging from a bar every day. You also use more muscles in a kipping pullup than in a strict one, because momentum, which is responsible for most of the work, is apparently a muscle now. Why build lat strength when you can twitch like a retard? Thank you, exercise sage, for clearing that up for everyone.
elgilicious 4 months ago 10
@elgilicious ever done a sub 2 min fran with strict pullups?
LHD4life 2 months ago
Exactly what I thought......just talk
TheEchoesmarketing 8 months ago
So tomsilver, please post your "hard work" and while you are at it, please tell us how many "strict" pull ups you can do in a row. Wait, better yet, give us a video so we can critique your technique, if you are brave enough to put your money where your mouth is.....
TheEchoesmarketing 8 months ago
KIPPING =ITS JUST WEAK ASS BIT##CHES THINKING THEIR DOING SOMETHING WITHOUT PUTTING IN ANY HARD WORK. AS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT REFERENCE THREE WILL NEVER BE A BAR TO SWING ON IN REAL LIFE. ITS ALAYS A WALL OR FENCE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SWINGING..
WATCH "STRONG GIRL DOES PULL UPS"
tomsilver 8 months ago
@tomsilver you're 100 percent right, these are fake swings so that "crossfitters" can say they can do pullups while they can do none.... and YES in law enforcement or army, there won't be any bar to swing on--there will be a wall, when you're chasing someone (or being chased).
xanyxxxx 8 months ago
@xanyxxxx Iam a crossfitter, but kipping is just bs. you can be just as explosive and fast with a regular pull up, its just harder. If you havent seen Hannibal's pull up videos you should check them out, he just shows how regular pull ups gives you wicked strength.
tomsilver 8 months ago 5
@tomsilver i dont think you've been doing crossfit for very long if you think kipping is BS.
pumitaproductions 3 months ago
@tomsilver Lol. I want to see you do 'Angie' without kipping. I want strict, controlled pull-ups, chest to bar each time.
AChildOfBodom667 2 months ago