John Stossel interviews Free State Project Prez & Founder

[EmmaBeelah]

Utopias never lead to unintended consequences....

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@EmmaBeelah its not a utopia, never did they say they were making a perfect place. just a free place, a place they want to live in.

[shordyinabox]

gather together and then spread like cancer. seems like it's the only way we can actually gain some sort of liberty.

[snowdogjoe2]

You guys need to advertise more, I just heard about you from a buddy. He wanted to know if I knew anything about you and until I did a search and watched John Stossel I never heard of you. Take out an add on the Glenn Beck show?

[dmgoddard]

@snowdogjoe2 -- I agree 100%. Unfortunately advertising costs money. Any help is appreciated! freestateproject(dot)org/getin­volved/donate.php

[tjohn1986]

TOO COLD

[crystalmethod1000]

are they free yet?

[dmgoddard]

UPDATE!! John Stossel will interview a Free State project representative on his Fox Business show next week! Be sure and watch!

[TheProgressistViewer]

Aint no way in the hell that 20 000 ppl is gonna cut it

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@TheProgressistViewer actually if you do the math of the NH population, the amount of spending involved in NH campaigns for local office, breaking down the size of key districts, and other factors like that, 20k people has a huge effect on the local legislation process.

[anynamewillification]

I don't know if they are totally goal oriented. It sounds a little crappy.

[benjiebr0074l]

I would definitely be a free stater if I was American :(

[GaGirlie777]

Marvelous idea! I love Libertarians. They aren't extreme like Dems and Repubs. They value individual rights.

[HeavyMetal4life95]

It is a good idea in theory, but i dont want a bunch of drug manufacturers and phedophiles moving into my state at all.

[jlbarber54]

I am a Libertarian Casino manager in Las Vegas. Is there a chance of a casino coming to NH?

[quantumsolutions]

Inspiring!!

[yammyspeed13]

I'm in PA and NH is looking better and better every day.

[remyllebeau77]

@ace11rothstein Shut up and get out. You are not worthy of this video or to be in the comments page with "RationalBullets"

@RationalBullets I hope you can just ignore that adolescent ace11 guy, (I know I will.) he really isn't worth it.

[ace11rothstein]

Again, someone like you who plays WoW constantly would suggest that. I don't want any "credit" from a worthless turd like you. Go ahead, keep responding, I love to smack bitches like you right down.

[ace11rothstein]

Really and what are you doing? I'm going to work while you are sitting in your parents' basement playing WoW and regurgitating theories.

[ace11rothstein]

I know you spend hours playing WoW which is why you suggested it. As for "economics" all you are doing is regurgitating talking points, that's not economics moron.

BTW, if nothing I say has any substance, then why do you keep responding to it?

Gotcha there. Your pussy is hurting big time now.

[ace11rothstein]

This from the guy that reads his jokes/arguments from a website before posting? You should quit while you have only embarrassed yourself and not humiliated yourself.

Spare me your menopausal episode and go back to your "job" of sucking dick for nickels.

[ace11rothstein]

My rectum is owned by me, your rectum is owned by your pet gerbils.

BTW, do you enjoy being a laughing stock? I think you do!

[ace11rothstein]

Calling me a communist? Fuckin' pathetic you are!

Stick to sucking cock (i.e. your specialty)! And find out why your pussy hurts so much!

[ace11rothstein]

I'm sure an insane person like you would recommend therapy.

I recommend you find out why your pussy hurts before replying to me. Ha ha!

[ace11rothstein]

and a fuckin' pathetic bitch and a fuckin' idiot yourself (this is why your calling me one means nothing)!

[ace11rothstein]

whereas you are just a stupid faggot!

[ace11rothstein]

Calling me an idiot w/o proof? Typical for a pathetic bitch like you.

[jesuschrustpizza]

It is the covert actions of the U.S. Government that gives it the power. 

Free State Project is too transparent. You might as well be working in the Government's interests. If this organization is not a puppet now, it will be.

Covert action and underground economy.

Do not be indoctrinated by corporate news. Do not pay into Social Security.

Don't think in U.S. Dollar. Think in Shekel, Yuan, Yen, Pound...

Don't drink the Patriotic Koolaid.

[dukeoforegon]

I am totally impressed with your project and the way you folks conduct your lives,My hats off to you.

[Claybird121]

John Stossel is such a douchebag. I really really dislike him.

[DobermansRock]

Um sound please.....

[guitardrew05]

i dont know if im getting this, is most of this movement and freedom in general as these people define it having to do almost totally with money? it seems that it is all about keeping money, and freedom seems to be defined as almost completely the pursuit of wealth, and as much wealth as you can gain... also does this faction of people consist a lot of the religious, the fundamental religious, the christian side of america? im just curious, it seems we have very different opinions of freedom.

[wildabeast11235]

first off, alot of the people in the free state project are of the atheist/freethinker persuasion. Christians are a rarity. and secondly, its not about making money. its about the freedom to do what you or i as an individual wants to with our lives, unhindered by the use of coercive force. So, it is about money to a certain extent, but its also about how i don't have the freedom to smoke a harmless plant. does that help at all?

[campelofep]

Money is important, as it is half of any transaction!

But it is much more than that, for sure.

Keep reading stuff...

[painisanillusion7]

For me, freedom would mean: no direct taxes; no drug laws; very lenient traffic laws; no inflation (stealing the value of my earned money); no gun laws; no property zoning or codes - unless the building negatively affects someone else; no property taxes; no driver license; no social security; no welfare programs; and then the other obvious things like patriot act. If we got rid of all that and then some I would be happy.

[ace11rothstein]

The government doesn't create inflation. The government can only control the money supply and by and large, the government attempts to reduce inflation.

For me, freedom means having sovereignty over your own person which means you can choose what you injest, with whom you choose to associate, which contracts you wish to enter into, when and how you die and what you owe the government rather than government mandating it to you.

[painisanillusion7]

Increasing the money supply is the definition of inflation. Inflation isn't rising prices, its inflating the amount of money in circulation, prices rising are the result of inflation. And the government doesn't create inflation, you're right - the private central bank (FED) does. For me, freedom means being about to live on my own property with a garden and a few animals near a lake where all my food comes from the garden and animals, water from lake, shelter from house, and no taxes at all.

[ace11rothstein]

Well if the money supply were constant, inflation can still exist. It just comes at the expense of currency devaluation.

[tnkaiser]

Uh, wrong.

You can't "devalue" a currency arbitrarily, since its "value" is determined by the market. You can devalue it by increasing the supply. You cannot inflate with a constant money supply.

[ace11rothstein]

If you can't value something "arbitrarily" then there would never be such things as bubbles. The idea that the market is always that omniscient has been disproven time and time again.

[tnkaiser]

Your statement is a non-sequitur (not surprising, given your ignorance of economics). The market is, in fact, not omniscient. It is, however, omnipotent, in the praxeological realm.

Again, you cannot have inflation without currency devaluation. It is not possible.

Read some basic Austrian economics texts. Probably a primer would do for you.

[ace11rothstein]

"Your statement is a non-sequitur (not surprising, given your ignorance of economics). "

Which means I was right and you were wrong. You cannot disprove that and you ended up agreeing with me Run away little girl, leave the economics to the grownups ok.

Inflation is, by definition, currency devaluation. The question is what you are judging the currency against. If you are judging it versus other currencies, then you look at relative inflation.

[tnkaiser]

Wow. I was wrong. You are not just ignorant of economics. You are ignorant of latin phrases commonly used in English.

You argument being a non-sequitur does not mean you were right. It means you are incapable of logical argument, which should have been obvious to me initially.

[ace11rothstein]

"You are ignorant of latin phrases commonly used in English."

No I do know Latin. I also know what a cop-out is and you clearly pulled such a pathetic stunt. Rather than argue the merits of what I wrote, you labeled it a "non-sequitur" in order to avoid arguing against it.

So when I wrote, "Which means I was right and you were wrong" I meant the meaning of your response, not the meaning of "non-sequitur".

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@ace11rothstein the market takes every known piece of information into account when creating prices, hence why the market sets the most efficient prices when in equilibrium. however a lot of that information is artificial and creates bubbles.

in the housing bubble market principles were rejected when handing out garbage loans, loans so cheap and easy to get that demand for houses was artificially boosted and prices dropped against market principles. of course it burst and started a correction

[ace11rothstein]

@EnslaveTheEmos Information alone does not move markets. All information must be taken in an evaluated by those who move the markets.

Prices are not set exogenously, traders need to move them to certain price points. This is not efficient.

[EnslaveTheEmos]

@ace11rothstein there is no set market movers, and traders do not control prices. supply and demand moves prices.

when you allow that to be the basics, its as close to efficiency as possible. of course the real world is not a theory in a text book, which creates discrepancies that pull away from efficiency. but bubbles are a resort of mass human error that negates basic economic principles. miss interpretation of info or rigging of prices, and market regulation like in the housing bub.

[arud555]

@painisanillusion7 Technically, you're wrong, although your ideas are correct. Inflation is the fall in purchasing power of money. It most commonly happens when too much money is created (the money supply increases when the money demand stays the same or does not increase as much). I recommend Ludwig Von Mises' Theory of Money and Credit for a more in-depth understanding. Private Central Banking is the reason why we have inflation, because they have a government monopoly on money-printing.

[bryandenehy76]

if I could afford it, I would move to NH ASAP

[painisanillusion7]

Do you live outside the mainland US? If not, realize it doesn't really take much money to move. Once you find a job out there or some other form of income out there, just drive out. I would think even if I was from CA, it would only cost like $500 to $1000 total to move. Plus if you have some security deposit for the new place or something. I don't see how it could cost much to move. I'm in WI, temped to hike out there!

[devildogmre]

Good video.

[selfactingmachine]

california isa foriegn country with respect to new hampshire

[awakenedwarriors]

Hey John Stossel get with it? Does America seem to be find now to you? When are you moving to NH? Or do you have an underground bunker with the elite?

[cdishmo]

If a citizen of New Hampshire wants to use dugs are they free to use them? Heroin, cocaine, meth, LSD, crack, etc, etc. Is it everbody for themselves and forget about everbody else?

[nvo7354]

Yeah, they should be anyway. Only a complete moron would ban drugs.

[openyourmind678]

hahaha "our economy is booming" hahahahahaha

[profreewill]

Awesome video, have any of you free staters snowboarded in New Hampshire. That's one of my passions, just wondering how the riding is up there?

[hagbard72]

You need someone dynamic to do the media interviews. Get Marc Emery (ie: The Prince of Pot) to move there, he'd be great! I knew him when he was just a "libertarian", the pot thing is just his current project. Oh, we need to get the Feds off his tail first.

[ugotpimp]

go free state project!!!!!! let people be free and self responsible.

This country would be 100000% better throwing 99% of laws away & living exclusively according to the bill of rights and constitution.

yeah freedom and responsibility!

[r3dredwine]

It really shows what kind of a person you are when you promote anti free speech and violence on your video. I guess making fun of the poor and uneducated is okay with your side of the political spectrum as long as they dont have the same political believes. What a big man you must be showing your brute force on the little guy.

[r3dredwine]

@ enk17777

[yorkcoadam]

People need to understand how far the Free State Project wants to go.

They dont want to just stop at seat beat laws.

Some of the laws they oppose.

Age limits on consensual sex

Possession of child pornography

Making ANY substance illegal (Including, heroin, crack, crystal methamphetamine)

Prostitution

Gambling

The Free State considers these and many other social laws to be victimless crimes.

Total Freedom sounds good in theory, but do you really want to raise children here?

[dmgoddard]

@yorkcoadam : Nice FUD.

There is no use trying to say "how far the Free State Project (FSP) wants to go", because the FSP DOES NOT HAVE ANY GOALS, beyond moving people to New Hampshire, who want to reduce the size & scope of Government.

The (vast) majority of the Project members want to reduce taxes, reduce government spending, protect gun rights, and remove victimless crimes.

I bet people who sense you are an alarmist and a Nanny-Stater like telling you anything to watch you over-react :)

[enk17777]

FSP seems to be attracting young, poorly educated, unskilled males who like guns. Mr. Swearingen and Mr. Sorens don't inspire much confidence as leaders. In fact, they're more than a little nerdy. What's to keep this project from getting hijacked by the guys with anarchist tendencies?

[dmgoddard]

@enk17777: Funny, most of the FSPers I know & hang out with are like me: married, with children, and a career.

As for Sorens and Swearingen, you're right: they're *not* leaders. But perhaps you're not too familiar with libertarian organizations ;)

[enk17777]

@dmgoddard: I hope you're right.

Some of the guys I know who associate themselves with FSP have assault rifles, hate authority and are keen to challenge it, and don't really understand even the basics of our system of government. I don't think they're politically enlightened, just dangerous.

Where's the line? Who gets to call themselves a freestater?

[dmgoddard]

@enk17777: yes, there are screwballs. As far as who gets to call themselves a Free-Stater, anyone who signs the statement of intent on the FSP website. It's not exactly an exclusive club :)

I think the real bellweather is what happened this past November: 4 pioneer members of the FSP were elected to the NH House of Representatives.

freestateproject(dot)org/intro­/2008_election

[Hashishin13]

@enk17777 So you get to decide whether they are "politically enlightened" or "dangerous"?

Who made you God?

Also you say "have assault rifles" almost like someone else would say "have a criminal record", the police have assault rifles, and they have killed many many innocent people yet I don't think the people you know have killed anyone, why aren't you scared of the police with their tanks, body armour and above the law attitude?

[r3dredwine]

It really shows what kind of a person you are when you promote anti free speech and violence on your video. I guess making fun of the poor and uneducated is okay with your side of the political spectrum as long as they dont have the same political believes. What a big man you must be showing your brute force on the little guy.

[enk17777]

I did no such things. You're just embarrassing yourself now. Know when to shut up. Politics is for grown-ups.

[r3dredwine]

Your video says differently. Its true you obviously like making fun of uneducated people. Why would I be embarrassed of growing up in an inner city?

[r3dredwine]

you are on a roll today. So because I'm younger then you I shouldn't have free speech? Shame on you! lol

[ugotpimp]

youre right they dont inspire much confidence of leaders...theyre trying to attract people who can lead themselves!! if you want to be a dependent sheep needing to be told what to do...keep voting democrat & youll get all the socialism you can stand

[Hashishin13]

@enk17777 What is to keep an organized group from being hijacked by anarchists? Maybe the definition of anarchy? Maybe you should educate yourself before you go around accusing people of being poorly educated.

[batmanthe]

@yorkcoadam If I had children I'd prefer a free society. There are so many benefits to freedom and the principles of Libertarianism. A child should learn from their parents right and wrong and how to make choices for themselves. When one isn't indoctrinated by the State, it's very simple to teach/learn with crystal clear clarity on every issue there's a huge difference between advocating men with guns to legislate morality and advocating personal sets of morals and beliefs with persuasion.

[Hashishin13]

@yorkcoadam

"Age limits on consensual sex

Possession of child pornography"

Absurd alarmist bullshit, Libertarians acknowledge that those under 18 are not mentally developed enough to make informed rational decisions, no one I have ever seen, even anarchists don't want children treated as adults.

"Prostitution

Gambling"

drugs

So you would rather allow the government to steal money from you so they can forcibly stop two adults from consensually doing something? This is your moral high ground?

[jlbarber54]

@yorkcoadam Yes, I that type of society, If you choose to use heavy drugs, you are on your own and must live with YOUR problem. Along with freedom come responsibilities.

[yorkcoadam]

This is a direct quote from a person who claims to be the brother of Ian from freetalkradio a active supporter of the Free State Project. I asked him: Would it be legal in the Free State to open, on private property, a casino which allows heroin, crack, crystal methamphetamine and prostitution of post pubescent girls?

His answer was: Yes. As long as all participants are voluntary, there is no crime.

The Free State will never succeed or secede. Thank God.

[zppz]

"As long as all participants are voluntary, there is no crime". Yep, that would be right. If they don't bother their neighbors or force anyone to participate, how is it a problem for you?

Hmm... and speaking of 'forced participation', what gives you the right to tell people what they should do?

[baristacoffee]

These guys are hacks. Home schooling? Do we really need more homely kids becoming adults?

[r3dredwine]

Better then those Liberal Indoctrinated camps we call schools

[baristacoffee]

Indoctrinated camps? Nice English. I can see you got a lot out of school. Retard.

[baristacoffee]

Indoctrinated camps? Nice English. I can see you got a lot out of school. Retard.

[r3dredwine]

lol you just proved my point, our public school system must work really well if we have a bunch of retards running around. Fuck you bitch.

[baristacoffee]

Your teachers taught you to write "indoctrinated camps"? I'm guessing your retardation is probably from bad genes and poor home environment, not school.

[r3dredwine]

If your right then how come home school is better for education across the board. How come the gay lobby was at my school senior year? How come they teach environmentalism, big government, and lie about American history?

[r3dredwine]

I think your retarded considering you arent even from America and yet you have no idea about the teachers unions, or anything about Americas public school system for that matter. I have learned more in my last 4 years out of school then my 12 years in school.

[enk17777]

It's "you're" as in "you are" not "your". Retard.

[r3dredwine]

I already explained how much they teach us in public schools.

[dconjar]

Why don't you take a look at the Baltimore City school system and try making that statement again.

[quesmasete]

I suppose that's why they are recruiting 20,000 more people to come up there.

[quesmasete]

I think it's the best idea going today. If enough of us can take over a few states we can control the politics of that state.

The problem with NH is that I work outside and the winters are too long and cold. I wish a few more states would offer this strategy.

[ugotpimp]

amen brother

more freedom & more personal responsibility for ALL

[ahumanwolverine]

I've lived in NH my whole life, we welcome all Liberty loving Americans. Come on over and help keep New Hampshire free.

[theunipauler]

Then why did John McCain win the NH primary? Not exactly a true limited Government freedom loving candidate.... ie. Supporting the patriot act, real ID the list goes on. Not bashing on the NH a lot better than Ohio.

[StrongmanJoshua]

Because John McCain has been campaigning in New Hamshire since the Crimean war.

[lnd3005]

You heard it here. Lol.

[ugotpimp]

the choice was him & Obama right???

neither worth a crap as far as freedom goes.

get rid of federal big brother & give the local population more freedom

[Byos4902]

When you have a choice between bad and worse, which are you going to choose?

[TravelJunkie]

go Charlie

[nismobeach]

I finally committed to this! I hope to move to NH within the next 9 to 12 months! :)

[voodooshizzle]

I say let states do their own thing. That way the other states can see which states are totally effing up and avoid the same fate.

[bibli13]

The whole somali thing is not a Libertarian's dream. You dont understand the dynamics. Libertarianism is as much a lifestyle as a government and part of it involes peaceful transactions among everyone, many of us beleive a govnt should still be in place to handle violent crimes but still much less than it does today.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

This libertarian pretext of "peaceful transaction" is employed as an economic & legal weapon to combat labor unions, regulation of oligopolists & monopolists to ensure a competitive market, consumer protection legislation & safety regulations for employees. In the days of Andrew Carnegie, this was done with yellow journalism & armed Pinkerton guards, in our days of Walmart and Enron it's done through lawyers, lobbyists and paid-off legislators who need money to get re-elected.

[bibli13]

i have nothing against labor unions i think they're a good way for workers to keep big buisnessmen in check. as for the lobbyists and legislators. doesnt that kind of make the entire point about the failures of big government?

[timbosforporn]

I think people might like the idea of "less govt" but are truly afraid of what that would do for society. It would mean we would have no control over other citizens and what they can do. This idea truly frightens us to the core because we like being in control of others because it gives us a sense of security. Why is it that the same country that says they love freedom wants to take it away from other and themselves?

[michieman0]

If anyone here wants more incentive to go through with something this radical, read "Nemesis: The Fall of the American Republic." It will open your eyes to the corruption of the American government.

[dmgoddard]

Moving for freedom isn't "radical" ... it's American!

[beezalax13]

I love libertarian ideas, but I've always wondered if it would work in the "real world." I feel that Americans are too used to the government wiping there asses for them that they would reject it. I admire that there are people willing to test it though. Good luck.

[dmgoddard]

I wish we'd be allowed to try it.

[beezalax13]

So your not allowed? Are you being thwarted or is it just impractical? Thats a shame.

[dmgoddard]

I mean.. it would be nice if we could declare an area to be free of State and Federal government.

[LumpyRevolution]

Do you know if anyone has given any thought of pulling the State of NH out of the Union? I know it's a "big idea" to quote George Sr. but I think of all the possibilities and what that would do for the FSP. Perhaps I'm crazy but that is how I feel with all the tyranny and oppression now enslaving us, and that it is growing every day.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

Ah, those libertarian delusions of grandeur that some New Hampshire residents love to nurse. NH would turn into the Guatemala of New England once divorced all those jobs and economic perks that come from living right next to Massachusetts. Imagine all those Londonderry residents who no longer commute to their 6-figure jobs in Boston, all those Bostonians who no longer care to visit Attitash, Water Country or Mt. Washington. Can you say "economic starvation?"

[LumpyRevolution]

Yes. I can . I can also ask you, what delusions do you suffer from? Obviously you must think things are fine and dandy as they are or you would not take the time to try to put down efforts of others.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

Very well, please tell me how NH would remain economically viable if an international border divided it from Massachusetts. Please explain to me how its tourist industry would remain prosperous without all those hordes of Mass tourists. Please tell me how southern NH residents would manage without high-income employment in the Boston metro area. I look forward to reading about your vision of an economically healthy "Independent Republic of NH."

[LumpyRevolution]

Your misunderstanding of the goals of freedom minded and socially responsible people make it impossible for me to give you an answer. Once you understand social responsibility, and freedom as it is deemed through natural rights, or rather God given rights, then we can have a discussion. Until then the conversation is pointless. You clearly do not understand the goals therefore any explanation would fall upon deaf ears.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

I see - so I have to agree with you before we can have a discussion about... our disagreement? This, after you ducked any attempt at an explanation of your simplistic statement on turning NH into independent nation state?

Your ability to state your case, nevermind to make it convincing, is outright impotent.

[LumpyRevolution]

Is it too much effort for you to get educated prior to debating? I prefer worthy challengers. Reread what I wrote. After doing your diligence get back to me. I'm more than happy to debate but I have no interest in debating someone who does not have the facts. Quite frankly, I do not have the energy or desire to explain what you are claiming as fact. Let me tell you first of all you need to read the Republic if NH Constitution. That is the only hint you get regarding how I will debate you.

[jsuther8903]

I doubt it would be much different than the border between the US and Canada. Tourism would likely not drop a bit. Maine would also ensure that the border easy to cross because they also depend on tourism as well and you have to go through NH to get to Maine. Also few jobs would be lost. Massachusetts businesses need those workers and they would pressure the state government to allow it. The Massachusetts state government would agree to this because they collect income tax from these workers.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

Mere talk of secession, followed by a couple of independence referenda by Quebec murdered its economy - or have you forgotten? In a recession such as this one, Mass would seek to employ its *own* workers first, not foreigners from an independent New Hampshire. If it needed fresh talent in better times, it would hire its own top tier Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, UMass Amherst alums before reaching out to the inferior UNH grads. These factors alone make any prospect of an independent NH a pipe dream.

[LumpyRevolution]

I'm with you! See you soon and together we can fight for our common bond of freedom.

[agmcfar]

We a "real world" for hundreds of years before the fed stepped in and It worked just fine.

[FranklyMisterShankly]

Libertarianism in its laissez-faire form is the spectrum opposite of Marxist communism. This said, it's just as nutty, impractical & above all - dangerously ideological & dogmatic. To all the psycho-nuts interested in conducting their sick Dr. Mengele-esque experiments on a living body politic - first try to fix some failed states that have no government to speak of: Somalia, Sudan or DR Congo. These places ought to be a libertarian's dream, devoid of any trace of federal, state or local gov't.

[losplatosdemaria]

R U serious, Frankly?Or R U just a huge fuck*g idiot? Hello, the US Constitution! But, go on, offer that to Somalia, Sudan, or the Congo, We sure as hell aren't using it anymore!Good Lord, wake up to the corruption and fight against it now! Later on is too late!!!

[FranklyMisterShankly]

Liberia had a constitution close to that of the US - so what?! The American Constitution is an 18th century document written by bunch of wig-wearing, slave owning oligarchs to protect their precious stranglehold on the country's wealth. This is the same "constitution" that's been used to support slavery, Jim Crow, segregation in military & education, and most recently, a presidential lottery otherwise called "the electoral college." If I want to look at obsolete antiques, I'll visit a museum.

[dianeliebowitz]

I always wondered why it didn't read "Live Free or Kill " ? ? ? I guess it's less threatening and maybe more dramatic that way... but in reality..I don't think the spirit of it means to lay down and be killed by nazis.

[anyusmoon1]

But has New Hampshire said 'NO' to the real i.d. regardless of the 'cost' or Fed's promises to 'pay' them to vote in favor and institute it?

[dmgoddard]

Yes. NH has COMPLETELY REJECTED the Federal "Real-ID".

Read the bill yourself:

generalcourt dot org/bills/2007/hb685

"the state of New Hampshire shall not participate in any driver's license program pursuant to the Real ID Act of 2005 or in any national identification card system that may follow therefrom."

[LumpyRevolution]

I think they may be sneaking compliance language in via other correspondence. Yes? It's unconstitutional.

[ronpaulvoter]

Good interview, but the sound is very weak. I can barely hear it.

[peldyn]

sounds great, but I don't want to move. I'll just work within the system in my state.

[dmgoddard]

Good luck in your own state -- have you considered that the Libertarian Party has failed to achieve any of its goals in the past 35 years?

Reducing government in a diffuse manner in all states has resulted in the rare victory and a long string of Statist encroachments.

Try something different, or you'll see the same results repeated. I wish this were no the case, but I must confront reality

[dianeliebowitz]

We're not dead yet!!! How much have YOU done...have you even VOTED LIBERTARIAN???

THen you shouldnm'e be sleeping well..mcuh less running off at the mouth...you haven't supported it have you?

[ronpaulrevolution]

Want freedom? Vote Ron Paul 2008!

[Darganot]

I want to move to New Hampshire :)

[sjlibrabbit]

If you like these ideas, you'll LOVE Ron Paul. Just think, we could all be free right where we are! Vote Ron Paul 2008!

[fallguy80]

DEZNT, a true American would rather die than live a life without freedom.

[moshchopper1]

Libertarianism sounds great, but the reference to the Patriot Act in this clip made me realize that pure Libertariansism in this county would leave us wide open for terrorist attack. So the NH motto is very fitting "live free or die" and it is a real possibility in this day and age. If you tie the hand of government to track down terror cells you could die--just ask the widows of 911.

[DEZNT]

lols they said "live free OR die", not "live free AND die"

[danrick77]

Terrorists wouldn't want to attack a country that isn't running around the world meddling in Islamic countries' affairs. Also, imagine that on 9/11 the terrorists had to face armed Americans rather than governmentally-disarmed victims. How many terrorists have been arrested as a result of the expanded powers granted to the government by the Patriot Act? None.

[dianeliebowitz]

YOu gotta get over tha fact that Terrorrism is just an emotional state...hey..if people are gonna blow shit up..ain't nothing in my basement or garage of glove compartment or e-mail account or library card...that the police are gonna use to stop them...The adminsitration pulled this off...if you don't know now..you haven't been paying attention...

either that or yu think it was a giant COINCIDENCE???is THAT YOUR VEIW??? A COINCIDENCE!!!

[Fool4dacity]

I would rather die free than live in fear. Are you afraid to die for what you believe in? By the "Patriot Act", my hands are tied & that's not a very good feeling!

[moshchopper1]

Why is NH less of a big governmrnt state than Mass or Vermont? Can somebody explain? I didn't get that from this clip...

[dmgoddard]

moshchopper, how about some examples. Unlike Mass or Vermont, NH has:

* NO state income tax

* NO state sales tax

* is the ONLY state in the union without a seat-belt law -- your safety is YOUR responsibility, not the purview of the State

* education is funded LOCALLY -- which means your town meeting determines the bulk your taxes, not the meetings of the state legislature

* open carry of firearms is allowed without any form of permit. Concealed-carry licenses are given on a "shall-issue" basis

[comp7878]

These examples were helpful. Thank you for posting them.

[thorsmitersaw]

id like the FSP more if they were more about outright seceding!

[ImAlwaysR1ght]

One step at a time. You don't put the roof of the house on first. :)

[PeopleFor911Justice]

I'm moving back to New Hampshire soon. I grew up there.  I can't wait. You should all move there too!! :) It really is a beautiful place.

[philippe1985]

when you say "you" please add "liberty minded people". Because I don't want any socialist or fascist (or whatever) going to my future state.

[patem1]

Good for New Hampshire. They need all the help they can get to counter the nanny statists moving in from Mass.

[forsytjr]

Outstanding, we need to get the word out on this video somehow. This could really be a big boost.

[shipple]

Awesome video!! The Free State Project is such a great idea!

[bonkers45]

Bah, I haven't finished Atlas Shrugged yet and he just gave away some of the story!

[lastlady]

Wonderful!!!!

[Dreepa]

This Rocks!!!!!!

Great job.... shows how we need to get off our butts and recruit more people to join the FSP.

[wyomingliberty]

This is great work!

[GardnerGoldsmith]

Beautiful. Well done, Varrin and Jason! You spell out the principles and practicalities involved. It was a fantastic weekend!

[LibertyProtector]

Oops... I was logged in on my bud's account. I'll be up there by the end of '08. Hopefully I can get that kid up there too.

[blacklabel0730]

Excellent! Well done! Varrin and Jason, great representation of the FSP and an inspiring overview of what could emerge if liberty-minded folks vote with their feet and get to New Hampshire. I'll be joining you by the end of '08.