HEY! JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE DEADLY SPIDERS AND EVERY NATIVE ANIMAL CAN KILL OR SERIOUSLY HURT YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN SHOUT IT OUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD YOU KNOW WE NEED TOURISTS TOO!
Gay your life must be is actually the way the song goes. It was written before Gay was used as a derogatory term for homosexual. Gay = Happy. I do think however that the way this song was performed here is kinda creepy.
Whynobacon, your lyrics are fucking stupid and unrealistic as we don't have guns in Australia you dopey shit. The entire world is not as obsessed with guns as your country that is fast losing it's power is. Also, to the creator of this video, how can you claim the lyrics are yours at the end of the video?!
But they are held by a VERY small majority of the population.
As in 1.3% of people are estimated to possess or have access to a firearm, with 1.1% of these being illegally possessed. The difference between the prominence of guns in Australia is minuscule in comparison to other parts of the world, especially the US.
So yes, I should not have phrased it "We don't have guns."
I should have said "There are almost no guns, they are very rarely used."
Greg Ham, o flautista da banda, foi acusado de copiar a melodia da flauta de "Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree", uma canção folk composta em 1934 pela professora australiana Marion Sinclair a respeito de um pássaro nativo da Austrália.
That tune sounds an alternative version of the chocobo song!! I could just imagine it now, running chocobo with that tune...noise is really REALLY annoying, is it a monkey or something??
Most songs are played in G, C, and D chords. How does one distinguish that a song was stolen from another when hundreds of thousands of songs have been written with these three chords?
@MyWoolybully The chords in Down under were in the relative minor key, creating a completely different soad nothing to do with G C D (I IV V) however it was the actual melody that remained exactly the same. It's still ridiculous.. I mean the original song is based on the key notes of a major scale, while the down under flute riff uses not so key notes from a minor scale.
Wow...that judge made a terrible ruling. It was only 5% of the royalties from the song, so it could have been worse, but it should've been 0. Pretty much all 'pop' music is derived and contrived from other artists--that's the nature of the beast. I guess every band should be suing each other over riffs that sound roughly similar. Fucking rediculous.
I do know that, sir. But you do realize that almost half the world knows a different meaning, that's what it makes it a really fun quote, doesn't it, captain smart-pants?
@pwoni I was just making sure. Not everyone ever online has some kind of vendetta against everyone else, So put your E-peen away bud, There's no comparing going on here.
@alabaster77 You're crazy! Vegemite sangas are yummy! It's even better on crackers! (The secret is to eat it with margarine or butter and don't put too much vegemite on, you only need a tiny bit. Kinda like how you shouldn't drink cordial straight from the bottle)
@flamengoeomelhor The pan flutes in "Land Down Under" play the melody of this song. It's hard to pick it unless you are a musician.
That being said, I don't think Men At Work did anything wrong. As a musician, I can clearly see that they didn't set out to copy or capitalize from this song.
"Land Down Under" is in no way a remake or new version of this song and I find it idiotic to believe they wrote the song to accomodate the Kookaburra melody.
@frankovich213 I've been hearing about this for over 10 years, seems like they won't earn anything with the court/lawyer costs, it's just idiots being greedy.
@music2012 The song is titled simply "Down Under". And a judge did rule that Men At Work has to pay Larrikin Music (Publishing Company) 5% of all royalties earned since 2002. Due to statue of limitations they could not go back any further,but it will be 5% of any future earnings also. I listened to this. I personally have to struggle to hear the similarities. It's not like when Queen sued Vanilla Ice. You could hear the similarity immediately. This little tune does NOT make me think Down Under.
FUCK THIS "SONG" ID RATHER DOWN UNDER THAN THIS FUCKING SHIT ANYWAY AUSTRALIANS UNITE AND BOYCOTT THIS SONG NEVER HAS SOMETHING MORE UNAUSTRALIAN BEEN DONE THAN THE SUEING OF MEN AT WORK.
the one i learned in SECOND GRADE was kookaburra sits in the old gum tree, lying there so peacfully, laugh kookaburra laff kookaburra gay ur life must be hahaha
Marion Sinclair, who wrote the lyrics for Kookaburra, is said to have taken the tune from a Welsh folk song, A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du or Dacw ti yn eistedd, y 'deryn du ( ''There you are sitting, black bird.'').
There is also speculation whether Waltzing Matildas origins lay in The Bold Fusilier, a song dated in some sources back to the eighteenth century. However the close relationship of the two tunes suggests The Bold Fusilier is more likely a contemporary parody of Waltzing Matilda written during the Boer War.
Waltzing Matilda based on the old Irish melody of Go to the Devil and ShakeYourself. Australian bandsman Thomas Bulch arranged James Barrs song for brass band in 1893 with the alternate spelling Craigielee, published under his pseudonym Godfrey Parker.
Christina Macpherson heard Thou Bonnie Wood of Craigielea by the band at the Warrnambool steeplechase meeting (24-26 April 1894) was almost certainly an arrangement of the Scottish song. Robert Tannahill wrote the words in 1805 and in 1818 James Barr set them to music.
Ok, I read that article, and it confirms my case even further. I really like Men At Work, but I can't give them a free pass on this - and neither would any of you if you were being fair.
This quote stands out:
Mr Lurie told Melbourne newspaper The Age: "Of course it would be disingenuous for me to say that there wasn't a financial aspect involved, [but] you could just as easily say what has won out today is the importance of checking before using other people's copyrights."
Ade Kelly, a longtime mainstay of the Port Fairy Folk Festival, says ``Kookaburra'' is similar to the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' (There You are Sitting, Black Bird).
'Down Under' tune was of Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du" origin. Spicks and Specks trivia music lately have made a lot mistakes are, one host inform Larrakin Music in 2007.
Spicks and Specks trivia music said "Can You Feel It" is Jackson 5 song wrong it was The Jackson. I like Rockwiz trivia its spot on in music.
Your wrong Marion Sinclair wrote lyrics to Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' music that's copyright. Colin Hay didn't steal the song that's big different again. I know Australian first national anthem that dates back to 1901. I can read music I play guitar and piano no way does it sound the same.
Waltzing Matilda was originally written by Christina MacPherson. I wrote a bio on Waltzing Matilda. Story goes like Christina MacPherson invited Banjo Paterson to her house to Waltzing Matilda she want publish. Banjo Paterson publish the song under with given acknowledgment to Christina MacPherson which both version are in same key. I lucky to see both in real life were I work in music section collection.
Waltzing Matilda was originally written by Christina MacPherson. I wrote a bio on Waltzing Matilda. Story goes like Christina MacPherson invited Banjo Paterson to her house to listen to "Waltzing Matilda" she want it publish. Banjo Paterson publish the song under his name no acknowledgment was given to Christina MacPherson which both version are in same key. I was lucky to see both versions in real life were I work in music section collection.
I know lot songs that sound like "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" that were written in 1924, 1926, 1928 the question is did Marion Sinclair stole song himself?
Waltzing Matilda (Written 1894-5: original music written by Christina Macpherson, passed down in manuscript. Partly based on the Scottish song Thou Bonny Wood o Craigielea, music by Robert Barr, words by Tannahill, 1818; the well-known version arranged by Marie Cowan from Christina Macphersons melody, first published as sheet music James Inglis & Co., 1903)
I heard the original version of Australian national anthem simply call "Australia" written in 1901. It's in the same key as "Advance Australia Fair" and both songs sound the same and words are close to each other only "Australia" is easy to remember the words. We would be sing "Australia" as our national anthem not "Advance Australia Fair".
I don't waste my time in reading journalist articles I know for fact they copy each other work and I heard some went to court. You believe in one journalist words.
Let say you wrote a song about someone you loved and pass away. Spicks and Specks trivia music show said your song sounds like "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" instead it was Irish folk song. How would re-act when Spicks and Specks trivia music show inform Larrakin Music, how would you feel? You know what music you wrote the to nobody has right to false statement.
Spicks and Specks trivia music show didn't look very careful nor done good research. The flute is Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' you need to listen to the song before you speak.
Also, an issue here is the lack of acknowledgement from Men At Work. Someone said that this could be viewed as a footnote, a "quote" from another artist.
In journals, the law requires the footnote to be acknowledged and the original author's name must be present. It is no different here.
Men At Work took a piece of another person's song, put it in there's, didn't acknowledge it, and they have been busted for it.
Justice is sweet, isn't it. I can't stand artists who rip off others.
"Down Under" has different start to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" and tempo is different. Down Under flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du" all musician know its Welsh folk song.
Men At Work have done more for Australia then the drongo who wrote this shit! And how did the person who wrote this song know the kookabura was gay? Did he follow it to a gay bar?
Men At Work's Down Under sounds almost identical to this Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree song. I can't believe they haven't been sued earlier than this.
It's good to see that "artists" simply can't just rip off another song and get away with it.
Do you have deaf ears? No way is "Down Under" flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" is copyright from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du".
I find the original version of "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" and it must slowly to that keyboard playing. Go to BBC article "Men At Work's Colin Hay hits out over plagiarism ruling" on Google you will hear it sound different.
If you do some research you find "Down Under" flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". You will find "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" was stolen version from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du".
"Kookaburra" were in the key of D, the melody would start on the 5th. In "Down Under", which is in the key of B minor, it starts on the 7th. So it's not even the same scale tones we're talking here.
Speaking of which key the tune is in both songs, it is highly irrelevant and it is an extreme reach for a lame, lame defense. If I take the tune of my national anthem and change the key - can I call it my own original song? NO. It's the same thing, and I ripped it off.. just like Men At Work did.
You are 100% tone deaf. Marion rip off the song by the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". The flute section is not by "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" Larrakin Music doesn't hold the rights to the USA holds right to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" since 1988.
You are 100% tone deaf. Marion rip off the song by the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". The flute section is not by "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" Larrakin Music doesn't hold the rights to the song USA holds right to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" since 1988.
Welsh folk song A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du (which is along the lines of "There you are sitting, black bird", which shows the inspiration for her own lyrics about a bird sitting in a tree).
Marion only wrote the lyrics to the song and set them to the music of a Welsh folk song A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du (which is along the lines of "There you are sitting, black bird", which shows the inspiration for her own lyrics about a bird sitting in a tree).
Welsh folk song, I'm not sure that Larrikin can own the rights to the music, but only the lyrics, which are not reproduced by Men at Work.
Down Under lyrics are not the same Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree, its about the flute section. Colin Hay official said on Australian New "I didn't know what Greg Ham was playing on flute" it wasn't going to be released with flute album nor single in 1981.
larrakin music publishing paid 8500 for it and now they want royalties for a song that they have nothing to do with, thats the shit i don't like when i read, these cunts have nothing to do with this song, if you paid that much thats it, now the cunts want to sue to get a bit extra. The original owners should only have the right to sue not some cunts who purchased the rights at a garage sale and think they can make a bit more. Thats utter bullshit.
kookaburra sounds exactly the same as the down under song and colin hay has even admitted they took the flute part from it but he is right, it is about greed and money nothing else. The guy that owns the rights to the song wasn't even born when the kookaburra song was made and whoever says it doesn't sound the same is either deaf, ignorant or wouldn't know what music is.
Bakubabe, they didnt wait over half a century. The publishing company had no idea it sounded anything like it til someone pointed it out on a TV show "spicks and specks" then they thought "wait a sec, we could earn millions off this" ....so they sued. It is petty and stupid, but artists should ask permission to use something that somebody else wrote, except in this case, she wasn't alive so they probably didnt think anything of it.
@saxophone09876543212 ok two things 1. I said Quarter of a century which is 25 yrs and 2. I was agreeing that it was a petty suit....just goes to show people will sue over just about anything to earn a few bucks
ftubs I agree to a certain extent since the owners of the song rights didnt even pick it up. A TV show did. The original songwriter of kookaburra is dead anyhow. Usually rap artists should ask permission to sample other music. It will always depend on how much the copied portion influences the sound of the overall track and if it's a main melodic component of the song they can be up for a law suit. It's just usually that most of the time the court can't prove it's not just a coincidence.
This doesn't sound like down under in anyway!!! - in fact I think that the composer of this song should be sued for making such a shitty piece of music!
Well the fact that it's the main "hook" of the song and it's identical to a song that they didn't write. Therefore they made millions of dollars using a melody that they didnt create. That's exactly why copyright exists. Songs that sample other songs should either get permission to do so, or use a sample that is unrecognisable to the original. you'd be ok with someone ripping off your melody and making millions? ...doubt it. Pity she's not alive to see how much money her melody actually made!
if that were the case there would be lawsuits galor in the U.S. rappers, country artist, bar bands, radio advertising, car commercials, heck low book car sales alone steals a differant classic rock song every month and re-writes the lyrics. with more and more recorded music being made everyday decade after decade someone is bound the have the same notes and beats somewhere. i could point out about a dozen death metal bands that all sound the same. i think this was a pretty petty lawsuit myself.
honestly this is a load of bullshit whats wrong with using a tiny sample for the song down under. i can could name heaps off bands the sample guitar riffs and shit
i hope that helps a little, the bass notes are not the same, its the last notes in the down under flute riff with a pause being the same as the notes for the words in kookaburra ,with (in the ) subtracted.
i can explain this,i think. the notes in the second flute riff in down under,right after the first 4 notes at the start of the song is simular to the words at the start of kookaburra.0:38 .men at work took out 2 beats after the first 5 beats so there is a pause then they pick it back up one octive down,koo-ka-bur-ra-sits(pause)old-gum-tre-ee. what men at work did was start down under with the first 4 lower notes,4 beats,subtracted the notes(in-the)and used the rest as the end of the flute riff.
Poor Kookaburra =,(
Saucymonky98 1 week ago
A 36 second intro to a two minute song? Really?
kaylasdaddy55 1 week ago
Its dumb that they sued Men at Work.
LIBnTYR 2 weeks ago
lame
JOELWILLRESPOND 4 weeks ago
If a bird is sitting on a electric wire, it's not going to be caught on fire because it isn't grounded, therefore no current is travelling through it
mikerox117 1 month ago
i come from a land down under,its nothing the same
82mattking 3 months ago 4
The maker of this video HAS to have special needs. I can't see any other way.
TouchMyDot 3 months ago 4
Seriously bird sounds? You thought that was going to make this video better?
tvfilm 3 months ago
You suck balls
johnmadden1989 3 months ago
Unnecessary bird sounds here. Please tone it down so I don't have to put it on mute to protect my ears. :(
NaomiHansen64 4 months ago
do you come from a land down under?
ledzeppelin27 4 months ago
the birds just make it annoying
girlovesbacon 5 months ago
i come from a land down under
ClesmacioLuque 5 months ago
This version of the song sounds like my balls.
mtldemon6 5 months ago
I have to sing this is Choir...I <3 it. And when we read "Gay your life must be" She explained "Gay means happy. This is not a homosexual bird!" :D
IconicAllstarBehavor 6 months ago
fuck this
FineFlu 7 months ago
I did that 3 times
fly69ify 7 months ago
land down under brought me here
fkhan96 7 months ago
have your heard...
Kookaburra sits on the old train track,
Along comes a train and knocks him flat,
Poor Kookaburra, Poor, Kookaburra!
Thats the end of that!
>.<
crazyvicki18 7 months ago
@pigfarts100 o_o plenty of people are going to Australia, dooont wooorrry.
spottedlpelt 7 months ago
I sang it in 4th grade also (Kansas City, 1970)
rghartwig 8 months ago
unecessary
letasp 8 months ago
DICK
Kara1247 9 months ago
i sing this song for choir
alexandraaylin123 9 months ago
I play dis on saxophone
Freyut723 9 months ago
What the fuck is this shit? :D
DuuDuu92 10 months ago
Am i the only person here who only knows this song because of doctor who?
mrstarranthightopp 10 months ago
@mrstarranthightopp Probably...I sang it for choir..
sintofg 8 months ago
great intro!
maggijude 10 months ago
i sangg this in forth garde
TheChrisLuciano 10 months ago
HEY! JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE DEADLY SPIDERS AND EVERY NATIVE ANIMAL CAN KILL OR SERIOUSLY HURT YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN SHOUT IT OUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD YOU KNOW WE NEED TOURISTS TOO!
pigfarts100 10 months ago
LOL at the intro
Troobudd 11 months ago
I'm just glad this wasn't done by a real Aussie.
julia393n 11 months ago
I learned this song in chorus I luved it!
bestiesforever9 1 year ago
Gay Yr life muz be is NOT really NEEDED...
terrissacutter 1 year ago
@terrissacutter
Gay your life must be is actually the way the song goes. It was written before Gay was used as a derogatory term for homosexual. Gay = Happy. I do think however that the way this song was performed here is kinda creepy.
slsuver 10 months ago
@terrissacutter
MrHaruharuharuhi 7 months ago
Kookabara GAY YOUR LIVE MUST BE...
addina2000 1 year ago
@addina2000 why the fuck must gay always be associated with homos??...Gay is a bloody word for happy,lively and cheerful.....
undertakerstu1 11 months ago
sHUT UP AND IT ISN'T 1 it means....GOOD DAY! forgoodnesssakes!
hfarzana64 11 months ago
lyrics are good to both versions but the laughing birds are a bit creepyish
morbidsweetheart 1 year ago
lol my grandma used to sing this to me when i was little, ah the fond memories of my crazy family.
Babybitchess 1 year ago
Waaht Kookaburra YOU Noee Thaas Gaay
Thaaat Onee ..!!!!!
Chaannteel 1 year ago
Tumbs Up if you searched this because of Man At Work! XD
Skravinner 1 year ago
lmfao this was ... something different
AStaRLuV 1 year ago
Lambkiller666 the tune is an Australian original and the sound is a Kookaburra, the protagonist for the entire video. Fuck!
thedailyobserver 1 year ago
Whynobacon, your lyrics are fucking stupid and unrealistic as we don't have guns in Australia you dopey shit. The entire world is not as obsessed with guns as your country that is fast losing it's power is. Also, to the creator of this video, how can you claim the lyrics are yours at the end of the video?!
thedailyobserver 1 year ago
@thedailyobserver
>don't have guns in australia
Trust me, you do.
IrregularToaster 1 year ago
@IrregularToaster We may have them, yes.
But they are held by a VERY small majority of the population.
As in 1.3% of people are estimated to possess or have access to a firearm, with 1.1% of these being illegally possessed. The difference between the prominence of guns in Australia is minuscule in comparison to other parts of the world, especially the US.
So yes, I should not have phrased it "We don't have guns."
I should have said "There are almost no guns, they are very rarely used."
thedailyobserver 1 year ago
learned this song in school
TheZachary9 1 year ago
This video is unbelievably annoying!
jaydenkanecurtis 1 year ago
koksburra
PokemonsammlerXD 1 year ago
dude there are deadly snakes and spiders not to mention other animals all over the world
sharmaine24 1 year ago
we have to learn it at school!!! XXXD
SwissMJJ 1 year ago
Plágio
Greg Ham, o flautista da banda, foi acusado de copiar a melodia da flauta de "Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree", uma canção folk composta em 1934 pela professora australiana Marion Sinclair a respeito de um pássaro nativo da Austrália.
funkprodigio 1 year ago
Sorry I meant to say ''that noise'' is really REALLY annoying'
Lambkiller666 1 year ago
That tune sounds an alternative version of the chocobo song!! I could just imagine it now, running chocobo with that tune...noise is really REALLY annoying, is it a monkey or something??
Lambkiller666 1 year ago
I got your filthy Kookaburra right here!!!!!
99paxil59 1 year ago
@99paxil59 seems like I'm not the only one gettting pissed
konnichiwaneku 1 year ago
I got your Kookaburra right here!!!!!!!!
99paxil59 1 year ago
kookaburra sits on the old gum tree. merry merry king of the bush is he. laugh kookaburra laugh kookaburra. gay your life must be.
ATCProductions97 1 year ago
Fucking annoying.
anishinaabe 1 year ago
Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree shot him in the ass with a .303.
WhyNoBacon 1 year ago 11
@WhyNoBacon Saw this and couldn't stop laghing
gummie1001 2 months ago
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WhyNoBacon 1 year ago
i like the 2 part
magicxman5622 1 year ago
you suck...........wthe!
MsBIMBO1976 1 year ago
lame
verbod 1 year ago
Most songs are played in G, C, and D chords. How does one distinguish that a song was stolen from another when hundreds of thousands of songs have been written with these three chords?
MyWoolybully 1 year ago
@MyWoolybully The chords in Down under were in the relative minor key, creating a completely different soad nothing to do with G C D (I IV V) however it was the actual melody that remained exactly the same. It's still ridiculous.. I mean the original song is based on the key notes of a major scale, while the down under flute riff uses not so key notes from a minor scale.
HughieHanily 1 year ago 2
Wow...that judge made a terrible ruling. It was only 5% of the royalties from the song, so it could have been worse, but it should've been 0. Pretty much all 'pop' music is derived and contrived from other artists--that's the nature of the beast. I guess every band should be suing each other over riffs that sound roughly similar. Fucking rediculous.
Mineav 1 year ago
"gay your life must be"
Best quote ever. Seriously.
pwoni 1 year ago 19
@pwoni You DO realise it means happy, Right?
TheW1ldcard 6 months ago
@TheW1ldcard
I do know that, sir. But you do realize that almost half the world knows a different meaning, that's what it makes it a really fun quote, doesn't it, captain smart-pants?
pwoni 6 months ago
@pwoni I was just making sure. Not everyone ever online has some kind of vendetta against everyone else, So put your E-peen away bud, There's no comparing going on here.
TheW1ldcard 6 months ago
I've listened to this & it sounds nothing like the flute in the track men @ work " DOWN UNDER" ...
Larrikin Music awarded 5% royalties by Australian judge! They wanted 50% originally... Greedy MoFo's
the10thplanet 1 year ago
WTF? i agree
Chupacabra129 1 year ago
não tem completamente NADA A VER com Dowm Under
gabrieltanaarea 1 year ago
this is nothing like Land down under
Groth1175 1 year ago
@Groth1175 the judge and jury disagrees with you, to the tune of 5% royalties :)
destiny6666 1 year ago
how annoying
PollyEll 1 year ago
There is absolutely no excuse for forcing us to wait so long.
You are a complete loser.
TwoFourFixate 1 year ago
This is a poorly made video.
Incary 1 year ago
it's not similar to Down Under... strange case of greed
szmkwroc 1 year ago 2
wtf..i want my 2:50 of my life back
mediawavecomm 1 year ago
@mediawavecomm
Me too!!!!!!!
alabaster77 1 year ago
WTF is this shit? Gimme a vegamite sandwich any day!
music2012 1 year ago 2
@music2012 ---laffing like monkeys.....
OneSpot71 1 year ago
@music2012 LOL..........you know,one of the first things I googled was "vegamite sandwich". I had NO idea wtf it even was.
GlennJWhittier 1 year ago
@GlennJWhittier
Vegamite is disgusting. I dare you to try it...
alabaster77 1 year ago
@alabaster77 You're crazy! Vegemite sangas are yummy! It's even better on crackers! (The secret is to eat it with margarine or butter and don't put too much vegemite on, you only need a tiny bit. Kinda like how you shouldn't drink cordial straight from the bottle)
omnipossum92 1 year ago
@music2012 its suppose to be a little kids song.
kylandpl 5 months ago
I can't see the similarities between this and the men at work song.... Where is this similar??
flamengoeomelhor 1 year ago
@flamengoeomelhor thats what i was just wondering....???
TheMojomaker 1 year ago
@flamengoeomelhor The pan flutes in "Land Down Under" play the melody of this song. It's hard to pick it unless you are a musician.
That being said, I don't think Men At Work did anything wrong. As a musician, I can clearly see that they didn't set out to copy or capitalize from this song.
"Land Down Under" is in no way a remake or new version of this song and I find it idiotic to believe they wrote the song to accomodate the Kookaburra melody.
Why are they suing now? 25 years later?
frankovich213 1 year ago 3
@frankovich213 I've been hearing about this for over 10 years, seems like they won't earn anything with the court/lawyer costs, it's just idiots being greedy.
music2012 1 year ago
@music2012 The song is titled simply "Down Under". And a judge did rule that Men At Work has to pay Larrikin Music (Publishing Company) 5% of all royalties earned since 2002. Due to statue of limitations they could not go back any further,but it will be 5% of any future earnings also. I listened to this. I personally have to struggle to hear the similarities. It's not like when Queen sued Vanilla Ice. You could hear the similarity immediately. This little tune does NOT make me think Down Under.
GlennJWhittier 1 year ago
FUCK THIS "SONG" ID RATHER DOWN UNDER THAN THIS FUCKING SHIT ANYWAY AUSTRALIANS UNITE AND BOYCOTT THIS SONG NEVER HAS SOMETHING MORE UNAUSTRALIAN BEEN DONE THAN THE SUEING OF MEN AT WORK.
jeremyhillaryboobphd 1 year ago 2
L0l! rusty nail
ubbynubb 1 year ago
the one i learned in SECOND GRADE was kookaburra sits in the old gum tree, lying there so peacfully, laugh kookaburra laff kookaburra gay ur life must be hahaha
XxItsAngelxX 1 year ago
this reminds me of drugs...
loliamapie 1 year ago 3
I love this song <3333 thanks for the lyrics :) =DD
bugsrcool55 1 year ago
im filled with rage
Emanusmell 1 year ago
I remember this...
But why is this recommended for me because I watched some Radiohead video?
celerystalker19 1 year ago
lol at my school we sing great your life must be
Randomradrz101 1 year ago
i don't know what's wrong with gay it only used to mean happy not homo's y do we now have to say gay for homo's? y not just make a new word
michelangelo466 1 year ago
@michelangelo466 inr. the fact that school is banning a word cuz it is rude when the original is fine.
Randomradrz101 1 year ago
sinceramente mi è piaciuta un saccpo
sorrentinoluigi1 1 year ago
Marion Sinclair wrote words to the music of a Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du"
Larrikin Music who owns Kookaburra copyright ignores
all that and claims unpaid royalties with avariciousness out of character with the old Kookaburra considering its a bloody Welsh tune anyway.
I. D. Carswell
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Marion Sinclair, who wrote the lyrics for Kookaburra, is said to have taken the tune from a Welsh folk song, A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du or Dacw ti yn eistedd, y 'deryn du ( ''There you are sitting, black bird.'').
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
There is also speculation whether Waltzing Matildas origins lay in The Bold Fusilier, a song dated in some sources back to the eighteenth century. However the close relationship of the two tunes suggests The Bold Fusilier is more likely a contemporary parody of Waltzing Matilda written during the Boer War.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Waltzing Matilda based on the old Irish melody of Go to the Devil and ShakeYourself. Australian bandsman Thomas Bulch arranged James Barrs song for brass band in 1893 with the alternate spelling Craigielee, published under his pseudonym Godfrey Parker.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Christina Macpherson heard Thou Bonnie Wood of Craigielea by the band at the Warrnambool steeplechase meeting (24-26 April 1894) was almost certainly an arrangement of the Scottish song. Robert Tannahill wrote the words in 1805 and in 1818 James Barr set them to music.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Unnecessarily melodramatic introduction is unnecessary.
UkeRenji 1 year ago 321
Comments containing redundant phrases are equally unnecessary.
burnz2188 1 year ago 2
@UkeRenji Welcome to the Department of Redundancy Department.
Go90go 1 year ago
Unnecessarily writing unnecessary is also unnecessary.
xanapax 1 year ago 38
@UkeRenji department of redundancy department.
kitkatsaysrawr 1 year ago
I havent heard this in years.!
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
wtf
vanebliss 1 year ago 56
the original owners of the music should sue larrakin as it was sold for $8500 not millions, larrakin has no right to sue anyone.
motley8oy 1 year ago
Ok, I read that article, and it confirms my case even further. I really like Men At Work, but I can't give them a free pass on this - and neither would any of you if you were being fair.
This quote stands out:
Mr Lurie told Melbourne newspaper The Age: "Of course it would be disingenuous for me to say that there wasn't a financial aspect involved, [but] you could just as easily say what has won out today is the importance of checking before using other people's copyrights."
Exactly.
cheatshot26 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
Ade Kelly, a longtime mainstay of the Port Fairy Folk Festival, says ``Kookaburra'' is similar to the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' (There You are Sitting, Black Bird).
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
'Down Under' tune was of Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du" origin. Spicks and Specks trivia music lately have made a lot mistakes are, one host inform Larrakin Music in 2007.
Spicks and Specks trivia music said "Can You Feel It" is Jackson 5 song wrong it was The Jackson. I like Rockwiz trivia its spot on in music.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
Your wrong Marion Sinclair wrote lyrics to Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' music that's copyright. Colin Hay didn't steal the song that's big different again. I know Australian first national anthem that dates back to 1901. I can read music I play guitar and piano no way does it sound the same.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
Waltzing Matilda was originally written by Christina MacPherson. I wrote a bio on Waltzing Matilda. Story goes like Christina MacPherson invited Banjo Paterson to her house to Waltzing Matilda she want publish. Banjo Paterson publish the song under with given acknowledgment to Christina MacPherson which both version are in same key. I lucky to see both in real life were I work in music section collection.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
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@cheatshot26@
Waltzing Matilda was originally written by Christina MacPherson. I wrote a bio on Waltzing Matilda. Story goes like Christina MacPherson invited Banjo Paterson to her house to listen to "Waltzing Matilda" she want it publish. Banjo Paterson publish the song under his name no acknowledgment was given to Christina MacPherson which both version are in same key. I was lucky to see both versions in real life were I work in music section collection.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
I know lot songs that sound like "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" that were written in 1924, 1926, 1928 the question is did Marion Sinclair stole song himself?
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Waltzing Matilda (Written 1894-5: original music written by Christina Macpherson, passed down in manuscript. Partly based on the Scottish song Thou Bonny Wood o Craigielea, music by Robert Barr, words by Tannahill, 1818; the well-known version arranged by Marie Cowan from Christina Macphersons melody, first published as sheet music James Inglis & Co., 1903)
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
I heard the original version of Australian national anthem simply call "Australia" written in 1901. It's in the same key as "Advance Australia Fair" and both songs sound the same and words are close to each other only "Australia" is easy to remember the words. We would be sing "Australia" as our national anthem not "Advance Australia Fair".
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
I don't waste my time in reading journalist articles I know for fact they copy each other work and I heard some went to court. You believe in one journalist words.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
Let say you wrote a song about someone you loved and pass away. Spicks and Specks trivia music show said your song sounds like "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" instead it was Irish folk song. How would re-act when Spicks and Specks trivia music show inform Larrakin Music, how would you feel? You know what music you wrote the to nobody has right to false statement.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
Spicks and Specks trivia music show didn't look very careful nor done good research. The flute is Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du'' you need to listen to the song before you speak.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Also, an issue here is the lack of acknowledgement from Men At Work. Someone said that this could be viewed as a footnote, a "quote" from another artist.
In journals, the law requires the footnote to be acknowledged and the original author's name must be present. It is no different here.
Men At Work took a piece of another person's song, put it in there's, didn't acknowledge it, and they have been busted for it.
Justice is sweet, isn't it. I can't stand artists who rip off others.
cheatshot26 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
"Down Under" has different start to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" and tempo is different. Down Under flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du" all musician know its Welsh folk song.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
Colin Hay had remained adamant the band did not steal the song
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Men At Work have done more for Australia then the drongo who wrote this shit! And how did the person who wrote this song know the kookabura was gay? Did he follow it to a gay bar?
catlover28 2 years ago
@catlover28 Cheaters shall never prosper.
VengaboysRbackINtown 2 years ago
Men At Work's Down Under sounds almost identical to this Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree song. I can't believe they haven't been sued earlier than this.
It's good to see that "artists" simply can't just rip off another song and get away with it.
cheatshot26 2 years ago
@cheatshot26@
Do you have deaf ears? No way is "Down Under" flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" is copyright from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du".
I find the original version of "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" and it must slowly to that keyboard playing. Go to BBC article "Men At Work's Colin Hay hits out over plagiarism ruling" on Google you will hear it sound different.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
If you do some research you find "Down Under" flute section comes from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". You will find "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" was stolen version from Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du".
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
"Kookaburra" were in the key of D, the melody would start on the 5th. In "Down Under", which is in the key of B minor, it starts on the 7th. So it's not even the same scale tones we're talking here.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Speaking of which key the tune is in both songs, it is highly irrelevant and it is an extreme reach for a lame, lame defense. If I take the tune of my national anthem and change the key - can I call it my own original song? NO. It's the same thing, and I ripped it off.. just like Men At Work did.
cheatshot26 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
You are 100% tone deaf. Marion rip off the song by the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". The flute section is not by "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" Larrakin Music doesn't hold the rights to the USA holds right to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" since 1988.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
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@cheatshot26@
You are 100% tone deaf. Marion rip off the song by the Welsh folk song "A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du". The flute section is not by "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" Larrakin Music doesn't hold the rights to the song USA holds right to "Kookaburra Sits On Old Gum Tree" since 1988.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
Welsh folk song A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du (which is along the lines of "There you are sitting, black bird", which shows the inspiration for her own lyrics about a bird sitting in a tree).
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26
Marion only wrote the lyrics to the song and set them to the music of a Welsh folk song A Ei Di'r 'Deryn Du (which is along the lines of "There you are sitting, black bird", which shows the inspiration for her own lyrics about a bird sitting in a tree).
Welsh folk song, I'm not sure that Larrikin can own the rights to the music, but only the lyrics, which are not reproduced by Men at Work.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
@cheatshot26@
Down Under lyrics are not the same Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree, its about the flute section. Colin Hay official said on Australian New "I didn't know what Greg Ham was playing on flute" it wasn't going to be released with flute album nor single in 1981.
TonyCheekyful 1 year ago
Men at work got sued for THIS!? Someone was high
grogtgs 2 years ago
Incredible. What kind of judge is that ? They should sue him for being a complete idiot.
crits1458 2 years ago 2
IS this a fucking joke! Fuck this shit! I cant believe Men at Work got sued for THIS BULLLSHIT!
I hope the guy who made this wil die on terrible a disease.
DrFunkLove 2 years ago 4
australia represent
snigglesthedestroyer 2 years ago
larrakin music publishing paid 8500 for it and now they want royalties for a song that they have nothing to do with, thats the shit i don't like when i read, these cunts have nothing to do with this song, if you paid that much thats it, now the cunts want to sue to get a bit extra. The original owners should only have the right to sue not some cunts who purchased the rights at a garage sale and think they can make a bit more. Thats utter bullshit.
motley8oy 2 years ago
kookaburra sounds exactly the same as the down under song and colin hay has even admitted they took the flute part from it but he is right, it is about greed and money nothing else. The guy that owns the rights to the song wasn't even born when the kookaburra song was made and whoever says it doesn't sound the same is either deaf, ignorant or wouldn't know what music is.
motley8oy 2 years ago
@motley8oy Contradict much? It's hard to see just who's side you're on in this little dance.
VengaboysRbackINtown 2 years ago
What the f¨***? No resemblance at all with Men at Work's "Down under"!
YvesB1 2 years ago 3
Bakubabe, they didnt wait over half a century. The publishing company had no idea it sounded anything like it til someone pointed it out on a TV show "spicks and specks" then they thought "wait a sec, we could earn millions off this" ....so they sued. It is petty and stupid, but artists should ask permission to use something that somebody else wrote, except in this case, she wasn't alive so they probably didnt think anything of it.
saxophone09876543212 2 years ago
@saxophone09876543212 ok two things 1. I said Quarter of a century which is 25 yrs and 2. I was agreeing that it was a petty suit....just goes to show people will sue over just about anything to earn a few bucks
Bakubabe29 2 years ago
I can't believe Men at Work got sued over this.
gjc82071 2 years ago 2
ftubs I agree to a certain extent since the owners of the song rights didnt even pick it up. A TV show did. The original songwriter of kookaburra is dead anyhow. Usually rap artists should ask permission to sample other music. It will always depend on how much the copied portion influences the sound of the overall track and if it's a main melodic component of the song they can be up for a law suit. It's just usually that most of the time the court can't prove it's not just a coincidence.
saxophone09876543212 2 years ago
lol, i love the introductory thing! hilarious!
spidachikk 2 years ago
there arent monkeys in australia. get your facts right.
muzaku 2 years ago
The intro is too long.
carobc777 2 years ago
better watch out....larrikin music publishing might sue you!
sdh568 2 years ago
Tenuous
globalsouljah 2 years ago
This doesn't sound like down under in anyway!!! - in fact I think that the composer of this song should be sued for making such a shitty piece of music!
gardinmanden 2 years ago
Well the fact that it's the main "hook" of the song and it's identical to a song that they didn't write. Therefore they made millions of dollars using a melody that they didnt create. That's exactly why copyright exists. Songs that sample other songs should either get permission to do so, or use a sample that is unrecognisable to the original. you'd be ok with someone ripping off your melody and making millions? ...doubt it. Pity she's not alive to see how much money her melody actually made!
saxophone09876543212 2 years ago
if that were the case there would be lawsuits galor in the U.S. rappers, country artist, bar bands, radio advertising, car commercials, heck low book car sales alone steals a differant classic rock song every month and re-writes the lyrics. with more and more recorded music being made everyday decade after decade someone is bound the have the same notes and beats somewhere. i could point out about a dozen death metal bands that all sound the same. i think this was a pretty petty lawsuit myself.
ftutbs 2 years ago
@ftutbs agreed. if they really were that hot under the collar about it they wouldnt have waited over quarter of a century to get on the band's case.
Bakubabe29 2 years ago
dude wtf, that song dates back to 1935
WTF MAN
Jurr144n 2 years ago
honestly this is a load of bullshit whats wrong with using a tiny sample for the song down under. i can could name heaps off bands the sample guitar riffs and shit
jrd2007march 2 years ago
They didn't steal it... they sampled it.
holycrapyousuck 2 years ago
i hope that helps a little, the bass notes are not the same, its the last notes in the down under flute riff with a pause being the same as the notes for the words in kookaburra ,with (in the ) subtracted.
ftutbs 2 years ago
Jesus this is exactly like an instrumental version of Down under! ..except for the melody, rhythm and instruments
skurvenykokoti 2 years ago 3
i can explain this,i think. the notes in the second flute riff in down under,right after the first 4 notes at the start of the song is simular to the words at the start of kookaburra.0:38 .men at work took out 2 beats after the first 5 beats so there is a pause then they pick it back up one octive down,koo-ka-bur-ra-sits(pause)old-gum-tre-ee. what men at work did was start down under with the first 4 lower notes,4 beats,subtracted the notes(in-the)and used the rest as the end of the flute riff.
ftutbs 2 years ago
Anyone who can hear any kind of simularity must seriously be smoking some killer weed
TopperHarl 2 years ago 5
NO WAY DID THEY STEAL THIS SONG - I hope they fight it to the top
acarch2 2 years ago 4
"steal"
vzd963 2 years ago