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  • Deaf people are just like everyone else...we should not be treated like second class citizens!!

  • A agree we should get rid of it. Saying someone is "little d deaf" is nothing more than an oppressive label. We should not be labeling one another. "deaf" strictly means the audiological aspect of a severe/profound hearing loss. It should not be used as a negative label. But from the Deaf prospective people should just respect one another and whether they choose to associate with the Deaf community or not we are all in the same boat in reguards to our hearing loss

  • wtf!?!@#@#

  • interesting...help me out here. i say "I'm deaf" because I see it as a condition, not an identity. I know SL but it is because I need to understand the world. I shouldn't say I'm Polish just because of my ethnicity or just because I speak Polish. A foreigner can learn a country's language. It's more geographic and culture-wise. For me, it feels wrong to say "I'm Deaf" myself because either it's not my identity or a culture I've been involved. In my opinion, your concept still works backward.

  • This is a great vlog! I never thought of that!!! I agree with what you say about "D". I am Japanese American, but I don't know the language. I am currently learning the language and there is techinically a different word for Japanese people who live in a different country. But I was pleasantly surprised that most Japanese people don't even use that word and just call me "Japanese" even though I clearly don't know the language.

  • I think we should keep the big D because from an audiological standpoint, it creates confusion. Being deaf and being HoH are two different things audiologically, and calling people who are deaf HoH for cultural purposes means that people who actually are HoH are confused with people who are deaf. I think we should stick to being either deaf or Deaf, and HoH status belongs to people who are neither hearing nor deaf. Good question!

  • I don't understand why deaf people continue to violate English rules. Sure, there are deaf people but it isn't the name of them. It's an adjective or a noun not a name.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX Deaf is a socio-linguistic culture as the capital D should apply as well, simple as that.

  • @avbria Call it Deaf culture, simple as that.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX its a culture.....it needs to be capitalized -_- watche "Switched at Birth" and look up "Deaf culture"

  • @KeswickCamp08 Deafness is not a culture. You're pretty much saying cancer is a culture.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX look up "Deaf Culture" but first, look up the word CULTURE: "shared attitudes: a particular set of attitudes that characterizes a group of people " now go look up DEAF CULTURE. no, deafness itself is NOT a culture, but there are deaf communities. communities have cultures. Im serious, go look up "Deaf Culture" and/or "Deaf Community" 

  • @KeswickCamp08 You're implying a community is akin to culture. Go get an education.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX They are. "Community: people with common background: a GROUP of people with a common background or with shared interests within society" the background is being deaf. "Culture:  shared beliefs and values of a GROUP: the beliefs, customs,practices and social behavior of a particular nation or people, "I am a college graduate,YOU need to learn to look up information.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX yes i am aware that i am on the wrong account.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX wait, did you even READ the "More Info" section?? Read what the woman says about Deaf CULTURE.

  • @QuicksilverdotFX S/he/whatever is kind of right. It's kind of like I said before, but a little different. African people live in Africa (I'm not saying none have immigrated to America, or anything Im just using that foe this post) Africa is it's own continent, so in a way its its own community. They have their own Culture (Depending on which part of Africa you live in anyway) The same goes for India, Japan, Zimbabwe, etc...

  • @QuicksilverdotFX It is the name of a Culture though. When talking about Cultures, you say things like "American" "Indian" etc.. why not "Deaf"? There is a whole culture around Deafness. If you are a "deaf person" thats one thing, but there is also "the Deaf" as in "the Deaf Community" or "Deaf Culture" lol, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, I'm not good at explaining stuff.

  • @jarah2190 Easy. Indian culture (I'm Indian) has different skin color, different language, different dress styles, etc. This is what makes us unique from the majority thus forming a culture. The 'deaf culture' has nothing unique besides that being deaf. We use english language, although signed, it uses english vocabulary. We dress the same as the majority, we think the same, we do same things, etc...

    You explained yourself just fine. Don't underestimate yourself, have some confidence. :)

  • @QuicksilverdotFX But we have our own schools, a lot of us have different ethics/morality or whatever it is, for example I know MANY more deaf people who greet (and say goodby to) others with hugs than I do hearing people. And not all cultures have different skin color. In ASL, it is really any language, but signed. The sign for Bonjore, Hello, and Hola is the same, we also dont have sight words, and sentances/questions are formed differently so it's pretty much its own language.

  • Deafornot dot c om is an online community for deaf, ASL and hearing-impaired friends and singles!

    Have fun with photos, message boards, chat, blog and more.

  • Yes I know it's better word with "D" because who is people on aid ear to hear, this thought of Deaf cutlure also it's not different by view "D" and "d" it's one by word for use in the world by "D" we are Deaf Cutlure! I understand that some deaf people try to become hard of hearing but same thing hard of hearing and Deaf are part of Deaf cutlure.

  • I think about that all the time. What is the difference between capital letters and small letters and why there are two kinds of alphabet in English for Deaf or deaf? I call myself Deaf.

  • i think Deaf Culture is very different and unique from others and that's why other cultures don't have "little a" and "big A" and so on... i think it's relevant still and not outdated...

  • D for alllllllllll!!!

  • we are equals.. all 50 states have the first letter capitalized.. and equal states.. but the big D people have been looked down so we had to say hey.. and put a CAP D to make it louder.. and we cant hear ourselves so we accidently made it bigger? oops? is it because of the curse put on us and all the stumbling blocks we get? yes of course so blame us?

  • ur probably right, it should bother ya. it is like both groups discriminating, or threatening the another and create division.. hearing people dont understand Deaf people, and might as well, the small d people dont either.. so its okay to be a big D, cause its a fact.. its all about deaf identity, the language of ASL, and the culture. as long the big D embrace the hearing culture and the small d people. so maybe the big D popped up just because they are forgotten or looked down forever and ever!

  • Audism statement is not acceptable here so get lost

  • I agree. I am moderate-severely deaf and I know both ASL and SEE. However; my parents did not send me to a deaf institution. I went to a public school with an interpreter. I have gotten the "cold shoulder" from some deaf people who attended a deaf institution. To them, I don't fit in the deaf culture because I didn't attend a deaf institution, even though we can communicate clearly. I don't see a difference. I'm a deaf person, same as them.

  • what do i think, you asked? mm ah i dont give a

  • Another thing, "Culture divides us into groups and causes segregation among the classes. It is not in parts, it is a whole. Culture is humanity period." jnewsjournalist

  • First, I agree with you. We should not have the little d, and stick with one D. I do not identify myself with the D/deaf culture, and am not "technically" hard of hearing. If there was a hard of hearing culture, Id be part of that. Deaf culture doesnt have to do with the auditory guys. Whether or not you identify and concerned with your hearing ability is your concern; however, if you are deaf, you will always be Deaf.

  • What do I care about what one thinks?

  • "The girls" look great in that shirt.

  • Well, depend on English grammar or language what we can use it. Like this who I am that " I am Deaf" and what I am that " I am a deaf person. I can accept that to use D for who I am. that is all smile. Tim

  • Ok I am new to this here. I must disgree(sp?) with u abt large/small Deaf/deaf...not matter to me at all! But what abt "Hearing or hearing" Same thing too?? That what puzzles of what u said! Well I am not sure I can but I am stick wtih only what I can use either deaf or Deaf! I am deaf and born that way. See what I said? Sorry!

  • I want to tell you the truth that I scream GO FOR IT, period. For example I am not ashmed to be (C)hristian. Did you notice with capitol "C"? Yes it is as well as Deaf. Amen.

    JK

  • i get where your coming from, i just had to watch the video. i read the, should we get rid of the small d in Deaf, and i was like wut?? but i watched it, and i get it.

  • I'm still fine with 'd' ... don't get me wrong but I'm proud of being deaf... it's only word... "Deaf" is like "deaf power" .. I am Deaf! or in humble way.. I am deaf.. who cares? it reminds me of "God" and "god" .. must use 'G' .. never use 'g' ... (snickers) no offense but I think it's ridiculous.. it's all about pride... must use 'D'.. screw that

  • I can see your point, but the degree to which someone senses sound a) is a continuum and b) changes throughout life.

    Also, if this proposal is followed, there are a whole bunch of becoming-deaf babyboomers, some of whom will undoubtedly think they are entitled to hear by whatever medical means exist, who are going to take over what "Deafhood" means, just like they've taken over everything else they've ever done!

    Let there be some word for those who don't think that hearing is a necessity.

  • I totally agree with you on all your points. I agree that small d and big d separates the culturally deaf people from those that are not in a very bad way. At least you mentioned what it can be replaced with.

  • Amazing! Very great video.

  • you're a pervert.. do you know that?

  • I am an interpreting student and we learned this concept of deaf and Deaf in our Orientation to Deafness class. I didn't really like using the term and I think you spelled it out clearly comparing it to other languages.

    I really like watching your videos because it is nice to see someone, Deaf or not, stand up for what they believe in. You are someone who is willing to stand up for the rights of the deaf community, and your not afraid to do it.

    You are an inspiration.

  • Hi again! Is there a specific sign to the word consecrate like consecrated life and consecration? Thanks. Ismael.

  • Hello, I´d like to know if there are an especific sign to the word OCCASION, the word UNLESS, CAMPAIGN and JUSTIFY like (Desperation doesn't justify bad security). That´s different of explain right? I have my email and msn if you think it´s better to explain so I can see how can I do the signs. Thanks! Ismael, interpret of Brazilian Sign Language in Brazil.

  • i never thought of this one. i always proud to be DEAF!! I love ASL and everything! I agree with you. small d should be remove so we could use BIGGEST D. you have very good points. Thank you!!!

  • wow, i never even thought about that, i am truly HOH, but i graduated from NMSD, and i don't think we ever discussed the D in Deaf, we barely started working with "Deaf Culture" in the time i was there from 89 to 93. this opened my eyes

  • That is a very good point about the Africans and Italians.

    I agree that there should only be Deaf.

    But this big D Deafness is from the Deaf, and to eliminate the small d deaf category, I don't think the big D Deaf would be happy about that...

    It's almost like saying "I'm African" as opposed to "I'm African-American".

    Good topic of discussion!

  • Continuing...

    Yet we should thank Carol & Tom for their contribution - or we would not be discussing d & D in the first place - leading up to explore and re-define d & D. Now I can defend the D and expand information with people from all walks of life. Thanks for sharing.

  • Yes, it is all about evolution. As we all know, the word meanings change over time so that is why I am raising this question. Thanks for your input!

  • You really hit it home! Yes, concepts tend to change over time with new found information through researches,surveys,and opened minded people like you and I. Still, this does not mean the old studies were wrong - just one of several misconceptions through untested minds - with time, it gets feedback and is corrected over time. To be continued ...

  • Reading this transcript has really opened my eyes. So many times hearing people use the word 'deaf' as an insult which focuses on a disability and thus they use it without acknowledging and respecting the community of people who have a rich and as valid language and culture as any other.

    Using a "D" shows proper respect and dignity that will hopefully translate into the attitude and language used by ignorant hearing folks.

    Thank you for the transcript. You are enlightening.

  • I've always always always used D in my Deaf! I am Deaf! Period. No more to say, than I agree!

  • i agree

  • Barb! I loved how you discussed any about this matter. I always agree with you and it is very clear that you made yuor point.. Take hear-loss, hear-impaired, and hard of hearing OUT! Thanks.. :)

  • Do you feel the same? How does the fact that the lecture happened two years ago make you feel? Sorry so long

  • Thanks for your thoughts. I always like to see how other people think since this kind of decision requires collaborative community input. I have always despise the small d and big D which does indeed split the community but I find that there are several using small d with comfort. As long as it is their decision, I am fine with it.

  • I think you were right it make sense to me why because it make sense captial letter . I get the picturce the letter and in my head I agree with you . avbria

    I really like you alot.

    trust me .

  • I was taken back by the lecture and shocked to see how she spilt the two groups clearly showing that "big D Deaf people" are better. I believe I am a mix of the two groups she had created, yet she refused to believe that is possible. But overall I think that how you choose to speak, listen, lip read, or use ASL, ESL, or even home sign, you are a BIG D DEAF PERSON because like all cultures there are different communities and ways of living

  • That is an interesting view of the "big D" and "little d" of deaf culture. About two years ago I went to a lecture at RIT where a Deaf teacher talked about how she defines a deaf person. The whole focus of the lecture was the difference between "Big D" and "little d" in deafness. She said people who are proud to be deaf and use sign language are "Big D Deaf people". While people who focus on lip-reading, hearing aids, speech, and implants are "little d deaf people".

  • Very interesting thoughts. I think the lowercase letter is appropriate when referring to audiology. Many resources make the distinction between lower or upper case.

  • Interesting! I always apply capital D for culturally Deaf people and lower case d for nonculturally Deaf people. I won't do that again.

  • Not easy. You make me remember lip reading class. My classmates were all HOH. No hh, except me! The public does not know what is hh. Also, I took culture class, and I saw students learn contempt toward hh! I need to think, then I will make a movie to respond.

  • Ahhh...that's something I've never thought of. I looked up the word "proper noun," it is defined as a noun that names a specific person place or thing. It is also used for groups and languages. AHA! So you are right!! I agree; let it be "Deaf" and not "deaf." This is how I will write it from now on.

  • Oh one more thing; we never call someone "american" (small a) just because they aren't fully Americanized. We are either that way by birth, or we become that way...but we're still "American" with a capital A. Point being, I agree with you and you make a good point.

  • were you partly talking on bsl as well avbria. as well as the clutcer an geting ride the small d.??? if i mmght ask good vblog aS allwayssss dorm keep bloging i keep watching

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