Sugriv & Vali were equal strength, but Vali had a boon that whoever he fought, he'd draw out half that enemy's power, and added to his own, his invincibility was guaranteed. That's one of the reasons that Rama killed him unseen - had Rama fought him mono a mono, this boon would have guaranteed Vali's victory.
@Vrishasena. Although I agree with you on the last sentence completely, I think that Sugriv wasn't stronger than Vali. Vali was wayy stronger. Here's why.
1.According to what Sugriv tells Ram, during the churning of the oceans, Vali was able to carry the mountain Mandar on his shoulder alone, which neither devas and asuras could have done together. He was also able to spin the mountain in the ocean by himself to display a feat of strength. He wasn't fighting an enemy then.
@Vrishasena. 2. Also when Vali had his confrontation with Ravan, Vali was actually praying to the Sun, when Ravan came from behind him and grabbed his tail and tried to dislodge him. So the concept of gaining 1/2 the enemy's strength doesn't arise here, as Ravan came from behind Vali. But all Vali did was wrap his tail around Ravan's hand and (without actually facing Ravan), he went to the four seas to do his prayers, dipping Ravan in the seas, in the process.
@Vrishasena. continuation.... After he was done with his prayers and Ravan begged for forgiveness, did Vali let go of Ravan's hand.
3. Vali could perform great feats of strength, which Sugriv could only dream of. Remember the two tests, where Sugriv wanted Ram to prove his strength before facing Vali. Ram passed both feats with aces, & Sugriv was awestruck. I'm sure if Sugriv could have done it, he wouldn't be that amazed or in fact he wouldn't need Ram's help.
Sugriv is very brave!!! He awesome. Too bad he didn't have his brother Vali's strength else he would have kicked Kumbhakarn's butt.
dannyp206 1 year ago
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Sugriv & Vali were equal strength, but Vali had a boon that whoever he fought, he'd draw out half that enemy's power, and added to his own, his invincibility was guaranteed. That's one of the reasons that Rama killed him unseen - had Rama fought him mono a mono, this boon would have guaranteed Vali's victory.
Vrishasena 11 months ago
@Vrishasena. Although I agree with you on the last sentence completely, I think that Sugriv wasn't stronger than Vali. Vali was wayy stronger. Here's why.
1.According to what Sugriv tells Ram, during the churning of the oceans, Vali was able to carry the mountain Mandar on his shoulder alone, which neither devas and asuras could have done together. He was also able to spin the mountain in the ocean by himself to display a feat of strength. He wasn't fighting an enemy then.
dannyp206 11 months ago
@Vrishasena. 2. Also when Vali had his confrontation with Ravan, Vali was actually praying to the Sun, when Ravan came from behind him and grabbed his tail and tried to dislodge him. So the concept of gaining 1/2 the enemy's strength doesn't arise here, as Ravan came from behind Vali. But all Vali did was wrap his tail around Ravan's hand and (without actually facing Ravan), he went to the four seas to do his prayers, dipping Ravan in the seas, in the process.
dannyp206 11 months ago
@Vrishasena. continuation.... After he was done with his prayers and Ravan begged for forgiveness, did Vali let go of Ravan's hand.
3. Vali could perform great feats of strength, which Sugriv could only dream of. Remember the two tests, where Sugriv wanted Ram to prove his strength before facing Vali. Ram passed both feats with aces, & Sugriv was awestruck. I'm sure if Sugriv could have done it, he wouldn't be that amazed or in fact he wouldn't need Ram's help.
dannyp206 11 months ago