Lian Li PC-A71F case review, www.mnpctech.com

[tgoyer]

I have five kids all under the age of 12, so I lock my case. :)

[whiterook6]

kinda feels like watching a cheap porno, with the closeups, the quiet voices, single cut, etc.

[saiky3112]

it looks like a 1980 's full tower...no air vents on top or bottom...no window....not even ..black interiors......damn Lian Li...I'd prefer a CM HAF X...or Antec 1200

[bassesweswe]

@saiky3112 they're ali though and awesome for modding.

[Kevinkoch2443]

i get this with noctua fans for silent cooling!

[neilhartop1979]

you need a better cameraman............

[xgeko2]

Hey Bill are the front hard drive bays easily removable or are they riveted in and in your opinion are they required for support of the case? I might buy one next week found one in excelent condition for $150 and looking for a good radiator spot =p.

[3Z3K13L08]

This case was made for water cooling. Anyone who doesn't is just wasting their money :).

[nikanj]

@3Z3K13L08

Well that's why I'm looking in to it. Do you have one? I'm getting either this or the Corsair Obsidian.

[3Z3K13L08]

@nikanj Yep, amazing case. Have this and the PC-A77, both great for internal W/C.

[3Z3K13L08]

@nikanj Another thing, this case is very light, about 15-20lb (5-10kg) when empty compared to the 45lb or 20kg of the 800D. Add all you parts and water cooling kit and that 800D will be too heavy to lift, unlike the Lian Li.

[nikanj]

@3Z3K13L08

Good point. Aluminium has its perks. Cheers for the tips.

[tou2lee]

I change the front panel to the PC-A70F. the PC-A70F is 23.03" x 8.66" x 23.23" & the PC-A71F is 24.21" x 8.66" x 23.23"

[ImIwilliamImI]

Fucking hippie cumdumpster!

Fruitcake fags!!

[bozidarcroatia]

@ImIwilliamImI I agree I will never give these guys to make me a costum PC. This video is justa a american crap. Wow look a fans wow look thi wow lok that. Be natural just on the flow. This this this and run it.

[gctsang]

good video, would be better if the cameraman's hands were steadier and did not zoom in so close.

[backtoearth1983]

i wish there were more of these vids, ive watched them all several times, real inspiration for my modding

[ryanstedman1]

36,000 viewer :D

[roenie1]

I imagine you wouldn't have to put ALL the screws back in.

[Cascade3891]

that case is too much hard work.

[LemonPieLoL]

that is such a completely average case. there is no bottom vents for the psu, a door and some fancy tool-less clips

[Stephenbriles]

I dont know why but i have watched this video like 15 times with the intension to get this case..... I need a job. lol

[TRUENGLISHMAN]

@Stephenbriles I FEEL YOUR PAIN

[1JYKMY]

Nice ballsqueak.

[Stephenbriles]

Does anybody know if you can just take off the front door and those two little ledge things on the top and bottom so you can just use it without the door?

[comexland]

@freedomboy96

My guess is that it's a dummy, like the PSU. I also guess the CD drive is, too.

[ksidornseif]

Love this case. All It needs is Cooler Masters hard drive system and handles on the top and bottom like a Mac Pro or G5.

I love the PSU mounting, and exterior design.

[Stephenbriles]

Can you guys Please do more Lian Li Reviews?!

[xSKOOBSx]

maybe in addition to what you talked about, you could talk about how easy it is to customize. go over the space you have around the front 140mm fans and determine whether there is enough room to fit a 2 x 140mm radiator in front instead of the HD cage. talk about whether you could fit a 360 or 480 radiator up top with or without the 5.25in drive bay devices installed. if you guys are reviewing a case and someone is watching it, the probably dont care about it stock. right?

[fernandodavila]

It is obvious that many screws will be front and will not be easy out for the simple reason that the front door brings some key, if the front des dismount with just plain stupid would force the security key.

[FullFledged2010]

i really like the subtle design 

[zeldazackman]

guy mummbles a bit too much, speak up man, show some bass, it worked for me

[GruntyStudios]

I would just take off the door and throw it in my closet. It looks like it would block all airflow from those fans.

[Slaander]

@GruntyStudios

why don't you just get the A70F then?

[GruntyStudios]

@Slaander Because I would rather have a 600T.

[madjimms]

I don't know why everyone thinks so highly of Lian Li, the case looks cheap.

[Whambadambadamdoo]

@madjimms i guess you have never owned one, compared to my crappy tt case i had before it's a huge step up in quality.

[madjimms]

@Whambadambadamdoo The motherboard tray looks flimsy.

[Whambadambadamdoo]

@madjimms yeah i guess i know what you mean, when i first got mine and kinda thought the same, but when you start working with it, you realize how high the build quality is.

[quijeros]

No problem. It is an extremely nice case. I'm really attracted to the simple, no-frills look of it. The toolless features are definitely nice, though I still recommend having a Phillips screwdriver on hand (obviously). As for the filters, you don't need to take off the top three screws on the front panel, but 7 screws is still a hassle. Otherwise, I love it. Plus, there's plenty of space for an internal ICS, which I'm planning on in the future.

[Geekman257]

Just a question with this case, what adapters or cables do the fans come with? Is it just standard 3 pin or does it come with a molex connector?

[quijeros]

@Geekman257 They come with both: 3-pin connectors plus 3-pin to molex adapters.

[Geekman257]

@quijeros thanks :)

[basstard013]

Don't need to remove the door, just the side screws for from the front panel, then the whole thing comes off. It's still a pain though, but really not that bad. Awesome case.

[tisk65]

no tuls ha

[alancheese]

very boring review....

[spearmintmonkey]

Hey, Bill

How do you get those metal grommets out that the case feet screw into on Lian Li cases?

Just drill them?

[lhax2]

is that the EVGA E760? if so, that case makes an EATX look puny XD

[sarfine64]

Haha please learn to RTFM. Why do You dismount the door to get to the front-filters? Just release the four screws at the sides and leave the door. Pwned guys ;-D

[ProneSyndrome]

The PSU could have a small dust filter on the bottom vent like in a CM case I have seen. If not I would scrap the vents altogether and have a bottom square to allow airflow from the bottom in, also dust filtered. The front dust filters are ok but has anyone noticed the 5.25 bays above the 2 dust filters are overhanging leading to dust potentially getting sucked up through there. I agree the dust filters are too hard to get to. Its better than nothing but they could have made it easier to remove.

[oldmanwhithers]

For me this case is like a super improved P193

[Idler81643]

Lian Li should really consult their marketing department on their product naming, not a jumble of random alphabet + numbers..

[Stratmastuh]

@Idler81643 I disagree soooooo strongly, I actually hate when companies name their cases "TEMPEST", "STORM", "SCOUT", "EXTREME TRANSFORMER" "DIABLO", etc. It's childish and unnecessary, when somebody asks me what case I have I say Lian Li, and that draws enough attention, I don't need a silly little marketed name for somebody to know I mean business. You know?

[llVllahi]

The fan filters are not that hard to change, c'mon guys. its just 10 screws. I'm glad i won't have to take off the side pannels in order to change the filters. I wish you guys would have given a loudness test seemings how this case is designed to be quiet. My antec 1200 is a pain to change filters and is extremely loud. I guess i'll find out when i buy mine. Nice review mnpctech.

[llVllahi]

@llVllahi oh wow i sounded sarcastic :/ oops. didn't mean to come off that way. it really was a nice review.

[Crodon]

You can hear an airplane going up at 4:00 , that's pretty funny.

[maxedwell]

Good vid. Was seriously considering this case, but we need to clean our dust filters frequently (like, several times a week) and there is NO way I'm going to put up w/ that 10 screw nonsense. I frequent a number of hardware forums ([H], Anandtech etc) and, surprisingly, nowhere else did I hear about this problem till this video O-o...

Thanks for saving me a headache and a half Bill 'n' Nate. Any idea if the Lian Li pc-a70f also suffers from this PITA dust filter issue?

[maxedwell]

neg that. Just double checked and it looks like the a70f's front pops off easily for filter cleaning. Problem solved.

[LShiznit]

@maxedwell really? Is it that essential?

[maxedwell]

@LShiznit

Maybe not to you, but in our house we leave our windows open 8 months out of the year. Los Angeles is also much dustier/dirtier than when I lived in other parts of the country. Result? We have to dust 2-3 times a week. Add in the pets and yeah, dust filtering is a MAJOR requirement.

If I still lived in an apartment w/o pets and used A/C, I probably wouldn't care.

[GreatDestroyer06]

Just bought this case today, cant wait for it to arrive! However, I also cant wait for the I7 core to come too =D

[TheVeRaK]

sif... this is a fail..

i got the pc-k62 and that's it for me with lian li

1 That handy-clamp as you put it (for your psu)

Fails.. mine broke within a week

window came with a crack in it..

latches.. now it's a tooless design.. it's only got 2.. latches

also mine only came with one filter.. .. o.O.. in your vid you had 2

and it's all ment to be soundless... the crappy ass fans that came with it.. make really loud and disturbing radiling noises.. and had to replace them o.O

[TheVeRaK]

oh and nearly forgot.. the pain is soo fragile.. it's like 1 coat of black.. lol

same with the thumb screws.. about 10 uses of those screws they start to fade back to silver

[thepunishment]

I got the pc-k62 and i gotto say that its a really nice case for the very little price you pay.

[Metapsyborg]

I don't get why people are whining about the non-removable mobo tray. Probably from inexperience, I guess. It's only useful on tiny mATX or ITX cases; on a mid tower let alone a full like this it's completely useless. You can't even remove it after you got your stuff installed anyway.

Only downside of this case is the fan dust filters. And if you don't like the front door there is a A70F which is the same but without the door (and $30 cheaper).

[CustomPCMAX]

I agree that the removable mobo trays are sort of useless. Once you get the system all wired, you typically can't slide it out without ripping out all your wiring. But, at the same time, it is nice for the initial installation - we thought it was silly that they 'almost' had a removable tray, why not make it all the way.

[peeeete]

lol fan filter removal design is epic fail for a case of this caliber

[whix7762]

English is not my native language. But can't you use the word ridiculous when a company brag about making toolless cases and then present a case with toolless solutions everywhere except where it actually really matters? Too bad, because this one is really nice looking and has a lot of space. But after seeing Bill remove the front, there's no way I'll buy it.

[razvansen]

Take the A-70F.I did and is awesome

[whix7762]

Lian Li, this is ridiculous! You label yourself as makers of toolless cases. How about making them toolless where it counts. I mean, how often does the average user change gfx-card, hdd's or psu? MAYBE once every 3-4 years?! So where's the need for making these solutions toolless?? Sure it's great to have the option, but how often do they clean their dustfilters? Get my point. Shouldn't the "toolless idea" have started there, with something you do often!?

[devourment8800]

thats really nice shame lian li doesnt do the insides black

[liightheaded]

@devourment8800 =D thats pretty easy fixed.... and some of the lian li cases looks nice with the silverish crome inside :)

[Fitfatfoofite]

Honestly...Is the door, the fucked up PCI card securing method, impossible to get to dust filters, hard drive cage at the top that is somehow actually usable, two power supply slots, camouflaged media card at the top with ten thousand cables, screw-on 1990's fan cover on the back of the case, motherboard speaker and a key lock necessary...?

You also can't remove the Motherboard tray.

Think before ya buy, guys. This case isn't technically bad, but the way it's designed is terrible.

[Aritzobixo]

Hello, no one would be wrong for review izierais NOX Box Coolbay HX

[cisco760ca]

DANG thats alot of work just too change the dust filter . The only thing i like from lian li's cases is that there made with better material other than that not a huge fan of there looks .

[GodZylaTheMaking]

the dust filter indeed very annoying, and if wanted to remove the fan, same thing, you got to remove the front bezel first in order to remove them.. hence NO removable mobo tray? thats kind of disappointing I totally agree with bill and what's the point to pay so much and yet compromise this feature?

[MrJadamccaddens]

huhuEinsam heute wer ist bereit für bisl tel labern oda chat

[djsi38t]

I saw you use that screwdriver.the motherboard screws are tool less as well all you do is twist them in by hand.

[TheBlazeWoW]

nice case

[im0309]

I feel the guys at Lian li thought you wouldn't have to clean the filters often due to the door, there is definetly less dust as a result of the door...

[Nefus2]

This video changed my view of the case. No reviews ever mentioned that the dustfilters are so hard to get to.

[sciroccoguy]

It doesn't look that bad. How often would you really need to change your filters with the side intakes?

[CustomPCMAX]

In the end, it all really depends on how dusty the environment is. If you have a semi-dusty room (pets, etc...), the door won't stop the build up. Those filters will get dirty for everyone at some point, 2 months, 6 months, whatever it is. Cleaning is a pain. But, despite that fact, it is still a great case. Well built, sleek looking, great design.

[Sho81]

@sciroccoguy as they said. pet owners. My wife has 3 cats and I constantly need to clean cat hair out of the inside of my case and that is with included filters. That shit gets everywhere.

[hommieo]

nice case, to bad the filter cleaning is such a pain to remove. alot of people will steer away from that due to that feature. but overall its a tight case if you like large cases.

[FrenkieNL]

Good looking case. Like the innovating HDD grommet+screws and the DVD mounting. The quality is pure Lian-Li but so is the price. Good review Bill.

[sirkinyo]

I wonder if it even came in instructions on how to get the filters out, my last F case didn't lol

[Prosthetics511]

Nice review as always. I suppose if you wanted that front door off enough, you could always remove those top screws, take off the door, and just reattach them right?

[hamburglerz77]

I really missed up by getting a PCI 8400gs to use as a PhysX card with my 2 GTX 260 in SLI on a old NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition from Dell in a XPS 710. I get a really bad flicker in games when the 8400gs is in enabled as the PhysX card.

[deejayfantazy]

wonderful case :) i own the lancool dragonlord pc-k62 which is also made by Lain-Li and they build such nice cases... wow :)

[uwanaugoda]

wow i do love lian-li tho very classy

[DeathMaster2003]

I have a Silverstone Raven RV01 cleaning and accessing filters is painless. that looked like a mega pain!! lol

[Cruising270]

OMG it's Michael Scott from the Office!!!

[L3m0n4d3233]

Looked better without the door :X

[mcgarnacle21]

You think cleaning the filters on that case is bad, try cleaning them on the antec 1200, it's the worst. Off the top of my head, I think there's about 24 screws you gotta unscrew.

[fatkasuvayu]

good to see u guys are back with your regular videos :)

[Blackhawk74]

LoL at the MP40 in the back at the start, on top of the rack/cabinet. XD

Good to see another video, its been a while. ;)

[suckithardnfast]

Lian li is EXPENSIVE. I would get something pretty much the same quality for half the price.

[x69Crunchyx]

their lancool series are same quality but cheaper and smaller.

[MN12BIRD]

I agree my Lancool K7 is awesome and didn't cost all that much at all really.

[tiagom135]

@suckithardnfast

antec FTW lol

[WestCoastMods]

Nice Review, I agree the filters are to much trouble, I personally would not even install them from the start, because once they were installed I would be to lazy to pull them out for cleaning. lol

Also whats with the almost removable mobo tray. It looks like it would be pretty easy to mod, but LIan Li should have done it from the start.

Looking forward to the podcast #5

LazyMan :-)

[recordmasta001]

this is such a nasty case

[TheDirt211]

cool

[zver711]

$239.99 on ze oldegg.

[optimusppp]

so actually there isnt much difference between this case and the lancool dragonlord.. exept this is a bigger case and there is more aluminium in it.

btw, whats the price tag on this case?

[b0ss6769]

well yes nice case, i have to remove like 24 screws to wash off the dust filters from my antec 1200 though :D :D :D

ill stick with antec 1200 and haf 932 stuff ;)

[nathanlovespie]

rofl ya i got the 1200 and so annoying so i just got 2 screws in the 1 side :P

[b0ss6769]

@nathanlovespie

haha

[zver711]

I've had gripes with my CM HAF 932 on the count if it not having dust filters and I have to clean it almost every month. But this thing with 10 screws, get real. And why the hell would they put screws on the top of the mobo tray, if its not removable, that blows my mind. Doesn't seem like a good airflow kind of case unless you use watercooling, no side fans, just front-in and back-out. Great review guys, you've reinforced my opinion on Lian Li being an overpriced dud maker.

[sodajr]

Pretty clean lookin case!

[xgeko2]

Great review!

[Soonerfan1066]

great review guys and its good to see another video out from you guys.MORE!!!

[eminemeatyou]

this would make an awesome wc rig with a sr1 280 in front and 360 on top

[wingman123]

Seems like if you didn't like the HD cables coming down on the front you could put them up top where the extra power supply slot is. That's what I would do.

[IHunger4Battle1]

Looks like too many cons vs. pros to that case. Back to R&D it goes!

[youtubasoarus]

Some great features on the case. But the ones that kill the deal are the filters and the almost-removable motherboard tray.

[dbzssj4678]

i got board of using screwdrivers, now i use a 18v portable drill on lowest torque setting. :)

[santamacx]

u guys offer a modding school? lol

[bullzisnipr3]

yea, their videos :p

[Jackviper5005]

this case is for the ones paranoid and need extra security lol

[soggymaster]

Love seeing cases which can house loads of hard drives! Too bad the filters are hard to reach, else I'd consider buying one. But that's why modders exist - to take a good case with flaws and remove the flaws!

[XshlomoX]

Yay Bill~

I liked the push-pin bracket holders

Front bezel+filters= kind of a fail =/

No removeable tray, big dissapointment from lian li =/

[jerrymga]

You coud've use an electric screwdriver .....:D

PEACE!!!

[clays121]

Too many fucking screws on the front panel for my liking, and for someone as myself, $240 on a case is way too much. But i have no doubt that it would be good for an IT tech computer setup in a corporate environment.

[uberjelly]

Bill you just bent one of the "pressure point release PCI thing"

I have the GTX 295 single PCB and the lian li PC-P50 which has the same tooless features.

The problem with that latch is there is a little overhang notch. Because the GTX 295 has a full cover cooler this notch hits the cooler cover and bends.

Thats why your friend had to push so hard to secure the first notch (only one that touches the cooler)

Go back and have a look and you fill find a broken notch. Sorry dude.

[Mnemosyn3]

lol'd when you forgot to put in the fan filter. I would of gone crazy if that happened to me

[GEARSCOMBATANT1]

Very Nice and thorough case review.

[hypercam258]

YAY screws

[spacemanj0hn]

thats an awesome looking case that might be the case for my next build. my current one is a midtower case with a cheap plastic front bezel

[Hekynn]

Nice.

[Kr4zi4ur0mg]

about time you guys uploaded a video.

[scottycatman]

I'm sorry, but the guy's opinion on what you could do with the case is very obvious and pointless. He just summed up : You can put a lot of stuff in there.

Otherwise, SEND ME THAT CASE!

[superiorevil]

nice vid