Perhaps discussions about corporate personhood will have a chance to extend beyond the Internet as the consequences of BP's mistakes in the Gulf of Mexico evolve. Social injustices have to become egregious before they're seriously addressed. As the damages grow and BP focuses on its main purpose - profit - perhaps enough citizens will become outraged to at least start asking, "How can they get away with this?" It's going to be interesting to watch BP use the law for the next few years.
Obviously either a corporation is a person and a man or woman is not, or a man and woman is a person and a corporation is not. It cannot be one or the other.
So if a corporation is a person than a man or a woman is not a person.
Problem solved! No need to abolish corporate personhood but to deny that personhood extends to men and women who are not fictional entities like "Walmart".
The supreme court has ruled that the 50 states are countries with respect to each other but under the 14th amendment system you are participating in rebellion against your de jure country when you vote, through contract as well and that is why you have to pay IRS and so forth.. and are responsible for the national debt. watch all 6 vids for more info please watch?v=G1B33IvnJ4M
BRILLIANT!! The Constitution demands that Congress coin money and regulate its value, and NO state shall allow anything but gold and silver coin be used as payment for debt. These two parts of the federal constitution IMPLIED that society make use of the Barter style for a free market economy.
1933 Gold standard was abolished and paper money was instituted, by a private corporation. Rockefellers & Rothschilds
Capitus Diminutio Maxima when your name appears in all capital letters = a corporate fiction entity of you. This along w/ birth cert. makes us subject to the UCC. The Birth Cert. is a contract, all contracts are subject to the UCC
They impose the fictional entity over the reality of a human being.
"Without Prejudice" UCC1-207 = Reservation of Rights
If these corporations will not abide by US Law and state law we should nationalize them. Wal-Mart should be nationalized by the US government above all corporations. They do not pay healthcare, they blacklist unionists, their owners are mega-billionaires and they don't donate shit like Bill Gates our friend. If Obama will not step up and be the next TR, FDR, JFK or LBJ we may not have much time left. We must tax the rich, regulate corporations and if they move to Mexico, nationalize their ass
You are beyond incompetent and the reason Obama is in office. I truly believe a person should obtain a license to vote if this is the level of knowledge the electorate has in this country. If you love socialism so much, move to Cuba!!! Your thoughts are truly frightening and how all dictators come to power. The government doesn't owe you a living and neither do I!!!
I agree Mike. However, our democracy may already be dead. The republic government the US started with was foundedo n democratic principles. Corporations and the rich have 10x 100x or 1000x more influence, power and standing in the United States. If we cannot stop this, through progressive reform, then our nation is damned like Rome and the Muslims, Chinese and Russians might as we nuke US now because we suck. The unions defeated the corporations and then they moved to Mexico, Taiwan, China.
leagueofpsychopaths, get a grip! I know its hard to avoid getting tunnel vision looking at the flaws of the US system, but we need to save our system, and not only for ourselves but as an example.
Women just got the vote in Kuwait. Saudi is a real monarchy, where women aren't allowed to drive. Factory workers in many parts of the world get BEATEN by their bosses. Small girls are prostituted. Its comforting to think that other places are better, but mostly, they aren't.
Perhaps if our government STOPPED TAKING MONEY FROM THEM, the corporations wouldn't be so powerful?
Not every s-corp and c-corp is corrupt; and you would be stripping away a level of legal protection by removing legal personhood from small business owners, leaving them open to predatory legislation from transnational corporations. On the flip side, transnational corporations would take the loss of their personhood in the same manner as an elephant stung by a gnat. They would barely feel it.
Corporations are indeed established to protect the interests of their owners or shareholders; but, it should be in their own self interest to promote the prosperity of the consumers that utilize their products. To that end, it does no one good to grant corporations , collectively rights that the Framers intended only for the individual. Corporate collectivism is as socialist as corporate collectivism.
I sure wish people would learn the definition of socialism. LeeGeeGee, you're right, and you're also an incredible asshole. There is a law that says corporations are legaly obligated to place profits before all else for the protection of their shareholders. The unquenchable need for earnings increases quarter after quarter is is exatly the reason why companies have no choice but to fire workers and outsource. save the investors kill the workers. "corporate personhood " RightsWithNoScruples.
DrRonPaul, corporations are not mentioned in our Constitution because we LEFT EUROPE to escape state religion, corporate dominance and religious suppression.
The Constitution is OURS, as in the PEOPLE of this nation, NOT THE CORPORATIONS.
Mike, Have you posed the question to John Edwards?
Abolishing corporate personhood is a multi-generational struggle. It's good to see it being discussed on YouTube. I'll be adding my voice soon, or at least the voice of the human tennis ball and the Earth.
Has Ron Paul pledged to abolish corporate personhood yet? I've been waiting for his answer to this and at least nine other questions on 10Questions dot com.
Under the current system, I don't like corporate personhood either, but I don't think you'll find many politicians willing to support destroying corporate personhood. They get all their donations from corporations.
On the other hand silencing corporations isn't a great idea either. I'm of the opinion that government should have less control over our lives. If we do that, corporations will have less control over our lives, too.
I certainly hope that you consider Unions in your "big corporations in politics" issue, because most of the top political donors are unions giving money to Democrats (6 of the current top 10!). Go check and of the political donation web-sites and check out the "Top Donors".
The income tax is an illegal and unconstitutional tribute to the central bankers who print the money from nothing and charge We the People interest on the face value of notes they created form thin air!!!
Vote RON PAUL 2008!!!
ABOLISH THE PRIVATELY OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE AND IRS!!!!
Voters, when are you going to get smart and only vote for those few candidates who put DEMOCRACY first? All other issues will only be solved right when we have a working DEMOCRACY. That's something we gave away long ago. It's time to get it back. DEMAND that your representatives promise to focus on DEMOCRACY first.
BAN CORPORATE MONEY FROM POLITICS!
I just posted a similar comment on your same video on I-Caught.
Politicians, when are you going to have the COURAGE to ban corporate money from politics? When are you going to have the COURAGE to pass laws to make elections publicly funded? When are you going to have the COURAGE to pass term limits, proportional representation, proportional voting? When are you going to acknowledge that DEMOCRACY is the FOUNDATION of our country and you've let our democracy DIE? When are you going to have the COURAGE to speak the truth?
Washington is RUN by lobbyists - people who are paid a lot of money to do nothing but get lawmakers to vote the way they want them to vote. If lobbyists weren't successful, then the companies that pay them would stop paying them. Since they're still getting paid, they're successful.
Mr. Pryslak, you are wrong. Our democracy isn't dying, it's DEAD!
Getting rid of corporate personhood is the key to solving our other problems. No matter what other issue we're talking about - war, oil, immigration, health care, schools, highways, whatever - the companies with the most to gain or lose bombard us with ads, true or false, but so well made that our human nature kicks in and we either believe what they tell us or we're too distracted to care.
RobbieXyOhio, the largest conglomerate corporations hire companies like the Aspen Institute, Rand Corporation and Tavistock Institute to study mankind, our tendencies, fears, what makes us cohesive, trust people, and then use it for their own goals. Playing us like puppets and our "government" allows it. It's time to get rid of both and rebuild a small, limited government that is based on the Constitution and puts the individual real person first over the state and most of all the corporation.
I hope you're wrong and CNN will recognize that ABOLISHING CORPORATE PERSONHOOD is the first step to solving all our country's other problems. Corporations serve an important function in our society and should be allowed to propser, however, their interests should not be put above ours. Corporations exist because we elected representatives who wrote laws to authorize them to exist. We should be able to control corporations; they should not be able to dominate our public dialog.
It would be nice if money were not running the country, but, it is. The corporations have the money and the power to keep any legislation restricting them from being passed. Unless the voting public can be persuaded to endorse this cause so that the candidates would know they have the people behind them in this matter, a political candidate would be afraid of the loss of corporations' campaign money.
CNN is a corporation, so it will be a miracle if your question makes it to the debate.
A topic of importance, and another question that will not get asked in the debates. I agree with RobbieXyOhio and Paula5544. Unfortunately the political/corporate/media/military system will fend off any real inquiries into business as usual. Yet we need to keep trying - democracy makes headway only as far as people force it forward.
I just watched the YouTube video "CNN/YouTube Presidential Debate Media Critique" by ssmackley submitted on July 26th. Her question on energy was used on the last CNN debate. There's no way CNN will air your question because CNN is a big part of the corporate media. CNN needs the status quo to prosper.
The answer is, without corporate money politicians would be out of work. They get corporate money to win elections, they get corporate money to live life to the fullest, they get corporate money for using their influence to increase profits for the corporations that give them money. Now, will any of them have the courage to give you a truthful answer?
CNN, please include this any publicized debates. This is a major cause of special interest groups getting shady deals passed and consideration that goes against the public's best interest. Politicians for sale MUST STOP.
Mike, I urge you to look at the organization
A.N.S.W.E.R.
which is fighting to abolish corporate personhood.
paul8kangas 8 months ago
I vote to abolish corporate personhood.
Youtube: paul8kangas
paul8kangas 8 months ago
Zeitgeist
kirokyukan 10 months ago
"Why won't you stop beating your wife?"
CrossoverManiac 1 year ago
Perhaps discussions about corporate personhood will have a chance to extend beyond the Internet as the consequences of BP's mistakes in the Gulf of Mexico evolve. Social injustices have to become egregious before they're seriously addressed. As the damages grow and BP focuses on its main purpose - profit - perhaps enough citizens will become outraged to at least start asking, "How can they get away with this?" It's going to be interesting to watch BP use the law for the next few years.
MikePryslak 1 year ago
@MikePryslak you mean our republic
bbs1969 1 year ago
I love it. Straight and to the point. There is no more important message today.
peapod8 1 year ago
rock on dude!
- Nate
NatePinky 1 year ago 2
Well said, sir. Well said!
myfingerisup 1 year ago 2
Obviously either a corporation is a person and a man or woman is not, or a man and woman is a person and a corporation is not. It cannot be one or the other.
So if a corporation is a person than a man or a woman is not a person.
Problem solved! No need to abolish corporate personhood but to deny that personhood extends to men and women who are not fictional entities like "Walmart".
ProtestSpp 1 year ago
Please join me in mourning; the demise of the American democracy has become a reality.
LordMSh 2 years ago
The supreme court has ruled that the 50 states are countries with respect to each other but under the 14th amendment system you are participating in rebellion against your de jure country when you vote, through contract as well and that is why you have to pay IRS and so forth.. and are responsible for the national debt. watch all 6 vids for more info please watch?v=G1B33IvnJ4M
Freihals1 2 years ago
this is a great video! thank you for making it. Please make more.
dudeedud7 3 years ago
BRILLIANT!! The Constitution demands that Congress coin money and regulate its value, and NO state shall allow anything but gold and silver coin be used as payment for debt. These two parts of the federal constitution IMPLIED that society make use of the Barter style for a free market economy.
zekretzpy 3 years ago
1933 Gold standard was abolished and paper money was instituted, by a private corporation. Rockefellers & Rothschilds
Capitus Diminutio Maxima when your name appears in all capital letters = a corporate fiction entity of you. This along w/ birth cert. makes us subject to the UCC. The Birth Cert. is a contract, all contracts are subject to the UCC
They impose the fictional entity over the reality of a human being.
"Without Prejudice" UCC1-207 = Reservation of Rights
Be Blessed
cardabanks 2 years ago
If these corporations will not abide by US Law and state law we should nationalize them. Wal-Mart should be nationalized by the US government above all corporations. They do not pay healthcare, they blacklist unionists, their owners are mega-billionaires and they don't donate shit like Bill Gates our friend. If Obama will not step up and be the next TR, FDR, JFK or LBJ we may not have much time left. We must tax the rich, regulate corporations and if they move to Mexico, nationalize their ass
leagueofpsychopaths 3 years ago 4
You are beyond incompetent and the reason Obama is in office. I truly believe a person should obtain a license to vote if this is the level of knowledge the electorate has in this country. If you love socialism so much, move to Cuba!!! Your thoughts are truly frightening and how all dictators come to power. The government doesn't owe you a living and neither do I!!!
maytruthabound 2 years ago
@maytruthabound
You're a retard, I wish your mom had to obtain a license to reproduce.
StoneColdSteve98 2 years ago
I agree Mike. However, our democracy may already be dead. The republic government the US started with was foundedo n democratic principles. Corporations and the rich have 10x 100x or 1000x more influence, power and standing in the United States. If we cannot stop this, through progressive reform, then our nation is damned like Rome and the Muslims, Chinese and Russians might as we nuke US now because we suck. The unions defeated the corporations and then they moved to Mexico, Taiwan, China.
leagueofpsychopaths 3 years ago 3
leagueofpsychopaths, get a grip! I know its hard to avoid getting tunnel vision looking at the flaws of the US system, but we need to save our system, and not only for ourselves but as an example.
Women just got the vote in Kuwait. Saudi is a real monarchy, where women aren't allowed to drive. Factory workers in many parts of the world get BEATEN by their bosses. Small girls are prostituted. Its comforting to think that other places are better, but mostly, they aren't.
givebirthathome 3 years ago
Perhaps if our government STOPPED TAKING MONEY FROM THEM, the corporations wouldn't be so powerful?
Not every s-corp and c-corp is corrupt; and you would be stripping away a level of legal protection by removing legal personhood from small business owners, leaving them open to predatory legislation from transnational corporations. On the flip side, transnational corporations would take the loss of their personhood in the same manner as an elephant stung by a gnat. They would barely feel it.
silverhawks 2 years ago 2
You socialist! Corporations are not intended to serve the public good! They're intended to serve the interests of the investors!
LeeGeeGee 4 years ago
LeeGeeGee, OUR CONSTITUTION was written to protect individual real people from corporations and state power. Try reading a book sometime.
peterson553 4 years ago
Corporations are indeed established to protect the interests of their owners or shareholders; but, it should be in their own self interest to promote the prosperity of the consumers that utilize their products. To that end, it does no one good to grant corporations , collectively rights that the Framers intended only for the individual. Corporate collectivism is as socialist as corporate collectivism.
neotericbladesman 3 years ago
I sure wish people would learn the definition of socialism. LeeGeeGee, you're right, and you're also an incredible asshole. There is a law that says corporations are legaly obligated to place profits before all else for the protection of their shareholders. The unquenchable need for earnings increases quarter after quarter is is exatly the reason why companies have no choice but to fire workers and outsource. save the investors kill the workers. "corporate personhood " RightsWithNoScruples.
beefcake85 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The National Initiative
Nobody has answered the "27 Problems With The National Initiative" video from a supporter who taked issue with the wording of the law.
The idea of a National ballot Initiative is a good idea, and these questions need to be addressed.
robclary 4 years ago
Have you pledged to eat a bullet yet?
Please take your communist one world government bullshit and leave my country traitor.
DrRonPaul 4 years ago
As if corporations have our best interests in mind. We the People need to be in charge of our government AND corporations. We are the sovereigns.
GDAEman 4 years ago
DrRonPaul, corporations are not mentioned in our Constitution because we LEFT EUROPE to escape state religion, corporate dominance and religious suppression.
The Constitution is OURS, as in the PEOPLE of this nation, NOT THE CORPORATIONS.
We will retake what is ours.
peterson553 4 years ago
Mike, Have you posed the question to John Edwards?
Abolishing corporate personhood is a multi-generational struggle. It's good to see it being discussed on YouTube. I'll be adding my voice soon, or at least the voice of the human tennis ball and the Earth.
GDAEman 4 years ago
This question was posed to all the presidential candidates on 10questions (see question 6) - only Edwards, Gravel, Huckabee and Kucinich responded.
mpryslak 4 years ago
TWO WORDS: RON PAUL
sumguyzercomin 4 years ago
Has Ron Paul pledged to abolish corporate personhood yet? I've been waiting for his answer to this and at least nine other questions on 10Questions dot com.
MikePryslak 4 years ago 2
Under the current system, I don't like corporate personhood either, but I don't think you'll find many politicians willing to support destroying corporate personhood. They get all their donations from corporations.
On the other hand silencing corporations isn't a great idea either. I'm of the opinion that government should have less control over our lives. If we do that, corporations will have less control over our lives, too.
flyinggeng 4 years ago
Brilliant, thats exactly correct. Well said!
erkd1 4 years ago
I certainly hope that you consider Unions in your "big corporations in politics" issue, because most of the top political donors are unions giving money to Democrats (6 of the current top 10!). Go check and of the political donation web-sites and check out the "Top Donors".
sandcrab13 4 years ago
We need to abolish the IRS!!!!
The income tax is an illegal and unconstitutional tribute to the central bankers who print the money from nothing and charge We the People interest on the face value of notes they created form thin air!!!
Vote RON PAUL 2008!!!
ABOLISH THE PRIVATELY OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE AND IRS!!!!
truthtrekker 4 years ago 2
Voters, when are you going to get smart and only vote for those few candidates who put DEMOCRACY first? All other issues will only be solved right when we have a working DEMOCRACY. That's something we gave away long ago. It's time to get it back. DEMAND that your representatives promise to focus on DEMOCRACY first.
BAN CORPORATE MONEY FROM POLITICS!
I just posted a similar comment on your same video on I-Caught.
Robbie,
Ohio
RobbieXyOhio 4 years ago
RobbieXyOhio, the problem with democracy (we are actually a constitutional republic, not a democracy) is it breeds corruption and detachment.
peterson553 4 years ago
Politicians, when are you going to have the COURAGE to ban corporate money from politics? When are you going to have the COURAGE to pass laws to make elections publicly funded? When are you going to have the COURAGE to pass term limits, proportional representation, proportional voting? When are you going to acknowledge that DEMOCRACY is the FOUNDATION of our country and you've let our democracy DIE? When are you going to have the COURAGE to speak the truth?
RobbieXyOhio 4 years ago
Washington is RUN by lobbyists - people who are paid a lot of money to do nothing but get lawmakers to vote the way they want them to vote. If lobbyists weren't successful, then the companies that pay them would stop paying them. Since they're still getting paid, they're successful.
RobbieXyOhio 4 years ago
Mr. Pryslak, you are wrong. Our democracy isn't dying, it's DEAD!
Getting rid of corporate personhood is the key to solving our other problems. No matter what other issue we're talking about - war, oil, immigration, health care, schools, highways, whatever - the companies with the most to gain or lose bombard us with ads, true or false, but so well made that our human nature kicks in and we either believe what they tell us or we're too distracted to care.
RobbieXyOhio 4 years ago
RobbieXyOhio, the largest conglomerate corporations hire companies like the Aspen Institute, Rand Corporation and Tavistock Institute to study mankind, our tendencies, fears, what makes us cohesive, trust people, and then use it for their own goals. Playing us like puppets and our "government" allows it. It's time to get rid of both and rebuild a small, limited government that is based on the Constitution and puts the individual real person first over the state and most of all the corporation.
peterson553 4 years ago
I hope you're wrong and CNN will recognize that ABOLISHING CORPORATE PERSONHOOD is the first step to solving all our country's other problems. Corporations serve an important function in our society and should be allowed to propser, however, their interests should not be put above ours. Corporations exist because we elected representatives who wrote laws to authorize them to exist. We should be able to control corporations; they should not be able to dominate our public dialog.
MikePryslak 4 years ago
It would be nice if money were not running the country, but, it is. The corporations have the money and the power to keep any legislation restricting them from being passed. Unless the voting public can be persuaded to endorse this cause so that the candidates would know they have the people behind them in this matter, a political candidate would be afraid of the loss of corporations' campaign money.
CNN is a corporation, so it will be a miracle if your question makes it to the debate.
Lois56133 4 years ago
A topic of importance, and another question that will not get asked in the debates. I agree with RobbieXyOhio and Paula5544. Unfortunately the political/corporate/media/military system will fend off any real inquiries into business as usual. Yet we need to keep trying - democracy makes headway only as far as people force it forward.
catgil3 4 years ago
I just watched the YouTube video "CNN/YouTube Presidential Debate Media Critique" by ssmackley submitted on July 26th. Her question on energy was used on the last CNN debate. There's no way CNN will air your question because CNN is a big part of the corporate media. CNN needs the status quo to prosper.
paula5544 4 years ago
The answer is, without corporate money politicians would be out of work. They get corporate money to win elections, they get corporate money to live life to the fullest, they get corporate money for using their influence to increase profits for the corporations that give them money. Now, will any of them have the courage to give you a truthful answer?
RobbieXyOhio 4 years ago
AWSOME!
wilgilb1 4 years ago
CNN, please include this any publicized debates. This is a major cause of special interest groups getting shady deals passed and consideration that goes against the public's best interest. Politicians for sale MUST STOP.
qtrmiler347 4 years ago