You close minded brainwashed poor fella. I feel bad for ya i really do, all you do is twist the facts around to your liking. You try to find a loop hole in everything. I can do that to its very easy. Well if you think spending a sabbath with family and friends with no work and the lord isnt "stress free" then your just ignorant. lol
@65LX Thanks for the condescending words, hint sarcasm. By the way what is my real name? or do you even care? By the way accusing people of things is not a way to win friends or influence people. If you want to be stressed out on the sabbath and lose your hair sweating in an office than going on a canoe ride in a lake somewhere in Michagen then that is your choice. Do you even have SDA friends?
Oh really? Do all SDA's spend sabbath in an "office"? Not to my knowing, the only ones who are in an office are the pastor, and the treasurer. And they are there for like what? And hour, 2 at the most. How exactly are we stressed out and loosing hair? If anything your the one loosing hair, your bald! lmao. Yes i have SDA friends. You seem to think SDA lives are boring. You wouldnt know since you aren't one. Well you have your opinion and i have mine. Your too ignorant to convince otherwise. ;)
This man is doing his best but does not represent what we believe as SDA as he should. Love you brother and apreciate what you are trying to do but the whole issue on the 1st day as a day of worship vs the 7th is much deeper than you have let your viewers believe. Let us not be ashamed of the truth.
You said in the texts I posted before in Acts 13:15, 42,44, you said it doesn't show Gentiles keeping Sabbath....It sure does...Please read from a KJV Bible because all others have changed or omitted...THE GENTILES BESOUGHT THAT THESE WORDS MIGHT BE PREACHED TO THEM THE NEXT SABBATH (Acts 13:42)...AND THE NEXT SABBATH DAY CAME ALMOST THE WHOLE CITY TO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD (Acts 13:44)....THIS WAS IN A GENTILE CITY AND IT SAYS IT WAS THE GENTILES WHO ASKED TO HEAR THIS ON THE SABBATH
@Cbiblical It is their choice, if people want to be stressed out have not time to spend with family and missout on God's blessing but rather spend a hot sabbath after noon in an office cubical than meditating on God's love that is their choice
One of the 10 commandments is not to worship images.Why do SDA have images of Jesus on their religious books?Where in the bible states Jesus looks like that?Also some of the SDA churches also have images of Jesus?This is totally against the 10 commandments.
do you not read the ten commandments? what do they say? What did Jesus do in luke 4:16 and when did sin come into the world? when did the Sabbath come? did Jesus not say till heaven and earth pass not a single little dot of an I can disapear. You do realize Luke was a Gentile and he wrote that the Women Kept the Sabbath according to the commandments at the end of luke.
What about the 10 Commandments? They are the "Old Covenant" (Deut 4:13; 9:9,11; I Kings 8:21; Heb 9:4)
Jesus tells us through His apostle Paul that they are the "ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone." (II Cor 3:7-18)
Do you do everything Jesus did? He tithed to the Levites, told cleansed people to make offerings commanded by Moses (Matt. 8:4), and he observed Hanukkah (John 10:22). He would have worn blue threads on his garments (Num. 15:38).
The Sabbath (SHABBATH-NOUN) came into being in Exodus 16. It DOES NOT appear in Genesis.
Luke was writing to a GENTILE audience and they might have wondered why the women rested even though they were faced with an urgent need, so he told them why, the women rested because of the commandment.
Luke using the word "commandment," doesn't prove the commandment was required for his readers. Paul used the same word in Eph. 2:15, but those commandments did not have any validity for his readers.
What exodus 20 state the origin of the Sabbath was? Is it not "Six days the lord made heaven and earth the sea and rested on the Sabbath?" So then doesn't the Ten Commandments state the sabbath came into existence at creation? Does not God Call in a commandment in Exodus 16 to know if the israelites would walk in it? What about the other nine commandments they are not in Genesis either?
You're adding words to Scripture. Here's what the Bible actually says in the part you quoted:
"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the SEVENTH DAY..."
The first part of Ex. 20:11 is discussing God's shabath [VERB] of Creation and the second portion is discussing Israel's shabbath [noun]. They parallel, but they are in no way the same. One is an "ACTION" by God - the other is a "thing" made only for Israel.
The commandments on the stone tablets of the covenant are not some inseparable group. Where did you learn this?
1) The two greatest commandments don't even appear in those tablets. They are in Det 6:5 and Lev 19:18.
2) Those 10 Commandments only appear three times in all of Scripture as a unit and only 1 time in the NT. In that location, they are called, "the ministry of death engraved on tablets of stone." (II Cor 3:7-18)
3) They are NOT eternal. The Sabbath was "MADE" for man.
Whatever if you just say we are a Cult then I guess that is in your mind. However you have the right say what you want about us good or bad, and bythe way what does that word mean in your mind? Ocultar in spanish means to hide, and we have our beliefs out in the open it isn't hidden so how does that make us a Secret cult like thing?
You and I, both know that the SDA is a cult. It was started around the same time as JW and Mormonism. Every cult has it's leader....
Islam has Muhammed, Catholicism has Constantine, Mormonism has Joseph Smith, Calvinism has Austine and John Calvin, Satanism has Antone Levay, New Age has Madame Blavasky and SDA has Ellen White.
No my friend, the duty of a Chritian is to love God with all your heart, soul and might and to love your neighbour as yourself:
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. [8] He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
That is the great commandment Christians are to follow, but they are also commanded to rebuke and expose heresies, as well. Because of this, the Reformation had to occur.
2 Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine."
Ok my friend, seeing as you see it of great importance, using scriptures please show where any of SDA doctrines are false, not from your own ideas but from our fundamental beliefs.
I'm sure you'll be able to find them online, the ones you think are false you can rebuke me using scriptures, I would be most grateful to shown a better light than the one I at present posess.
The biggest one is the "3 angels message". Christ, Peter, nor Paul preached this "message" and nor should you and your congregation. Also, the preaching that the Shabbat is the seal of YHWH is also error.
And do you really believe that sunday is the mark of the beast?
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
These are 2 of the 7 blessings contained in the Revelation of Jesus Christ for those that read understand and apply them, Paul and Peter were dead when this vision was given, how could they have preached it?
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
It is his final message to the world, we are on the verge of this prophecy being fulfilled to the end, I would say it was paramount to preach it!!
Ok, but what you SDAs preach has nothing to do with Revelation. You preach the "3 angels message" like it is even about Shabbat worship - when it is not.
Nowhere in Revelation does it say that the Shabbat is the "Seal of YHWH" or that sunday is the "mark of the beast".
Two thirds of the book of Revelation can be found in the Old Testament, it is Jesus last message to the world and confirms his Gospel message preached to those from the very begining!!
If you don't understand Revelation that is fine my friend, but you shouldn't scoff at those who do!
The first of the 3Angels message is now, the 2nd and 3rd are due to unfold very shortly, after this will come the loud and final cry found in Rev 18:4
It is found in Rev 14 my friend, it is the stage where we are at present, it's called present truth!!
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
[7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and WORSHIP HIM that made HEAVEN, and EARTH, and the SEA, and the fountains of waters.
Errr! We are currently living in Revelation 16:12. Revelation 16:10 was fulfilled in 1798 AD when Napoleon and his army captured the pope and removed from him from the seat of the Beast.
Ok, but Revelation was a foretelling of the tribulation that was to come then and there and until the return of Christ. This what Christ meant in Matthew 24:21.
Matt 24 like Revelation were living prophecies, they unfolded piece by piece through time till the end, Rev 14 is where we are at present, Rev 14:7 is telling us to worship the Creator of Heaven, Earth and Sea, this is found in the 4th Commandment, look for yourself! Exod 20:8-11.
You need to put together the clues and the pieces bit by bit, the Bible reveals all the truth, we do not need to speculate it only causes mass confusion!
Rev 14 tells us it is a worship issue, you will either worship the Beast or you will worship God!
If you worship God you will be sealed on your forehead, if you worship the Beast you will receive a Mark on your hand or forehead!
The very Beast power (The Vatican) who instituted the Sunday worship, the very power that both Daniel and Revelation point to will tell you themselves what their MARK is:
"Sunday is our mark of authority..... The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
What will your decision be my friend?
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free!
LOL! Are you even aware that the early gentile Church gathered on Sunday centuries before the RCC was established? LOL!
Just look at the writings of Ignatius - the disciple of Polycarp, he wrote that they gathered on the first day of the week and called that day, the "Lord's day". I don't believe the "Lord's day" is Sunday, but more like the "day of the LORD" spoken by the prophets. Nonetheless, they gathered on Sunday.
And guess what? I don't even attend sunday services.
1 John 3:23 "And this is his commandment, That we should BELIEVE on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and LOVE one another, as he gave us commandment. "
Exodus 13:9 "And it shall be for a SIGN unto thee upon thine HAND, and for a memorial BETWEEN thine EYES, that YHWH's torah may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath YHWH brought thee out of Egypt."
If you continue reading, you will see that the seal is the blood of the Lamb.
Exodus 13:16 "And it shall be for a TOKEN upon thine HAND, and for frontlets BETWEEN thine EYES: for by strength of hand YHWH brought us forth out of Egypt."
Exod 5:5 And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
The word rest in this verse is shabath (Sabbath), Moses and Aaron had reminded them of their covenant with God, when they decided to keep the Sabbath, Pharoh refused and told them to work on that day instead, God then plagued Pharoh, just like he'll do when they enforce SUNday law!
Yes my friend, at present no one is forced to disobey Gods Commandments, just like in Pharohs time they Hebrews just forgot about them. When Moses and Aaron were sent by God to remind them, they believed him and decided it was right to keep them, at this point Pharoh was forcing them to break them. Soon people will have to make a choice as people will be forced to choose God or Satan, up to this point there is no force being used, then the plagues will come upon those who receive the Mark.
You close minded brainwashed poor fella. I feel bad for ya i really do, all you do is twist the facts around to your liking. You try to find a loop hole in everything. I can do that to its very easy. Well if you think spending a sabbath with family and friends with no work and the lord isnt "stress free" then your just ignorant. lol
65LX 6 months ago
@65LX Thanks for the condescending words, hint sarcasm. By the way what is my real name? or do you even care? By the way accusing people of things is not a way to win friends or influence people. If you want to be stressed out on the sabbath and lose your hair sweating in an office than going on a canoe ride in a lake somewhere in Michagen then that is your choice. Do you even have SDA friends?
spoke777 5 months ago
Oh really? Do all SDA's spend sabbath in an "office"? Not to my knowing, the only ones who are in an office are the pastor, and the treasurer. And they are there for like what? And hour, 2 at the most. How exactly are we stressed out and loosing hair? If anything your the one loosing hair, your bald! lmao. Yes i have SDA friends. You seem to think SDA lives are boring. You wouldnt know since you aren't one. Well you have your opinion and i have mine. Your too ignorant to convince otherwise. ;)
65LX 4 months ago
@65LX You are missing the point friend. What then do you do with the other 9 commandments if you refute the 4th?
gordonbobby1 4 months ago
This man is doing his best but does not represent what we believe as SDA as he should. Love you brother and apreciate what you are trying to do but the whole issue on the 1st day as a day of worship vs the 7th is much deeper than you have let your viewers believe. Let us not be ashamed of the truth.
gordonbobby1 4 months ago
You said in the texts I posted before in Acts 13:15, 42,44, you said it doesn't show Gentiles keeping Sabbath....It sure does...Please read from a KJV Bible because all others have changed or omitted...THE GENTILES BESOUGHT THAT THESE WORDS MIGHT BE PREACHED TO THEM THE NEXT SABBATH (Acts 13:42)...AND THE NEXT SABBATH DAY CAME ALMOST THE WHOLE CITY TO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD (Acts 13:44)....THIS WAS IN A GENTILE CITY AND IT SAYS IT WAS THE GENTILES WHO ASKED TO HEAR THIS ON THE SABBATH
Cbiblical 9 months ago
@Cbiblical It is their choice, if people want to be stressed out have not time to spend with family and missout on God's blessing but rather spend a hot sabbath after noon in an office cubical than meditating on God's love that is their choice
spoke777 9 months ago
FINALLY, thank you for this...people need to know the truth
Bunfire123 1 year ago
@Bunfire123 your welcome
spoke777 1 year ago
most of what i ,ve seen the sdas teach comes right from the bible not ellen w hite
timsh6 1 year ago
@timsh6 Most of our doctrines are thought by other denominations, even investigation judgment is too, the idea of our live coming up or review
spoke777 1 year ago
i keep hearing cult cult cult what makes them a cult ? is that their way of saying that the truth which sdas teach from the bible onlyisn,t popular
timsh6 1 year ago
amen brother tell em
timsh6 1 year ago
@timsh6 Thanks:)
spoke777 1 year ago
Thankyou for your comments of the SDA faith i'm also Seventh Day Adventist
MrBarryknoll 2 years ago
The Early Gentile Church kept Sabbath, not Sunday (Luke 23:52-56; Acts 13:14-15,42,44; Acts 15:21; Acts 16:13; Acts 17:2; Acts 18:4,11;)
Cbiblical 2 years ago
I agree:)
spoke777 2 years ago
Comment removed
DjICEbrooklynNYC 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
One of the 10 commandments is not to worship images.Why do SDA have images of Jesus on their religious books?Where in the bible states Jesus looks like that?Also some of the SDA churches also have images of Jesus?This is totally against the 10 commandments.
DjICEbrooklynNYC 2 years ago
@Cbiblical
None of these texts show a Gentile observing the Sabbath. Why are you making this claim?
Paul also kept feast days (Acts 18:21). Are you going to observe those because he did?
Hawgdawgrain 2 years ago
do you not read the ten commandments? what do they say? What did Jesus do in luke 4:16 and when did sin come into the world? when did the Sabbath come? did Jesus not say till heaven and earth pass not a single little dot of an I can disapear. You do realize Luke was a Gentile and he wrote that the Women Kept the Sabbath according to the commandments at the end of luke.
spoke777 2 years ago
Comment removed
BethanyChurchThomas 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What about the 10 Commandments? They are the "Old Covenant" (Deut 4:13; 9:9,11; I Kings 8:21; Heb 9:4)
Jesus tells us through His apostle Paul that they are the "ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone." (II Cor 3:7-18)
Do you do everything Jesus did? He tithed to the Levites, told cleansed people to make offerings commanded by Moses (Matt. 8:4), and he observed Hanukkah (John 10:22). He would have worn blue threads on his garments (Num. 15:38).
Hawgdawgrain 2 years ago
The Sabbath (SHABBATH-NOUN) came into being in Exodus 16. It DOES NOT appear in Genesis.
Luke was writing to a GENTILE audience and they might have wondered why the women rested even though they were faced with an urgent need, so he told them why, the women rested because of the commandment.
Luke using the word "commandment," doesn't prove the commandment was required for his readers. Paul used the same word in Eph. 2:15, but those commandments did not have any validity for his readers.
Hawgdawgrain 2 years ago
What exodus 20 state the origin of the Sabbath was? Is it not "Six days the lord made heaven and earth the sea and rested on the Sabbath?" So then doesn't the Ten Commandments state the sabbath came into existence at creation? Does not God Call in a commandment in Exodus 16 to know if the israelites would walk in it? What about the other nine commandments they are not in Genesis either?
spoke777 2 years ago
You're adding words to Scripture. Here's what the Bible actually says in the part you quoted:
"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the SEVENTH DAY..."
The first part of Ex. 20:11 is discussing God's shabath [VERB] of Creation and the second portion is discussing Israel's shabbath [noun]. They parallel, but they are in no way the same. One is an "ACTION" by God - the other is a "thing" made only for Israel.
Hawgdawgrain 2 years ago
The commandments on the stone tablets of the covenant are not some inseparable group. Where did you learn this?
1) The two greatest commandments don't even appear in those tablets. They are in Det 6:5 and Lev 19:18.
2) Those 10 Commandments only appear three times in all of Scripture as a unit and only 1 time in the NT. In that location, they are called, "the ministry of death engraved on tablets of stone." (II Cor 3:7-18)
3) They are NOT eternal. The Sabbath was "MADE" for man.
Hawgdawgrain 2 years ago
Revelation 12:17
lazbo4174 2 years ago
Whatever if you just say we are a Cult then I guess that is in your mind. However you have the right say what you want about us good or bad, and bythe way what does that word mean in your mind? Ocultar in spanish means to hide, and we have our beliefs out in the open it isn't hidden so how does that make us a Secret cult like thing?
spoke777 2 years ago
Indeed, "the angel of YHWH" in the Tanakh is Yeshua. Also, SDA is a cult!!!
Shalom & Agape
theheat151 2 years ago
The government classifies all religions as Cults, and be more specific than throwing out a blanket statement.
spoke777 2 years ago
You and I, both know that the SDA is a cult. It was started around the same time as JW and Mormonism. Every cult has it's leader....
Islam has Muhammed, Catholicism has Constantine, Mormonism has Joseph Smith, Calvinism has Austine and John Calvin, Satanism has Antone Levay, New Age has Madame Blavasky and SDA has Ellen White.
Shalom
theheat151 2 years ago
Hello my friend, nice to see you have the usual christlike fruits on display!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Ello, I still see that you are in a 19th century cult. Just don't call it a "hate-crime" for me telling it how it is.
And what does a cult member know about fruits of the Spirit, anyways?
:'D
theheat151 2 years ago
I pray that whatever wrongs have been bestowed upon you, you will take to the Lord and ask for his grace.
All this hate won't bring you happiness my friend.
Shalom,
Mark.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Um, what hate? Exposing heretics and cults is a duty of a Christian. Yes or no?
theheat151 2 years ago
No my friend, the duty of a Chritian is to love God with all your heart, soul and might and to love your neighbour as yourself:
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. [8] He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
God bless!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
That is the great commandment Christians are to follow, but they are also commanded to rebuke and expose heresies, as well. Because of this, the Reformation had to occur.
2 Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine."
theheat151 2 years ago
Ok my friend, seeing as you see it of great importance, using scriptures please show where any of SDA doctrines are false, not from your own ideas but from our fundamental beliefs.
I'm sure you'll be able to find them online, the ones you think are false you can rebuke me using scriptures, I would be most grateful to shown a better light than the one I at present posess.
I humbly await your reproofing,
God bless.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
The biggest one is the "3 angels message". Christ, Peter, nor Paul preached this "message" and nor should you and your congregation. Also, the preaching that the Shabbat is the seal of YHWH is also error.
And do you really believe that sunday is the mark of the beast?
theheat151 2 years ago
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
These are 2 of the 7 blessings contained in the Revelation of Jesus Christ for those that read understand and apply them, Paul and Peter were dead when this vision was given, how could they have preached it?
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
It is his final message to the world, we are on the verge of this prophecy being fulfilled to the end, I would say it was paramount to preach it!!
Please tell me why this wrong?
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Ok, but what you SDAs preach has nothing to do with Revelation. You preach the "3 angels message" like it is even about Shabbat worship - when it is not.
Nowhere in Revelation does it say that the Shabbat is the "Seal of YHWH" or that sunday is the "mark of the beast".
theheat151 2 years ago
Two thirds of the book of Revelation can be found in the Old Testament, it is Jesus last message to the world and confirms his Gospel message preached to those from the very begining!!
If you don't understand Revelation that is fine my friend, but you shouldn't scoff at those who do!
The first of the 3Angels message is now, the 2nd and 3rd are due to unfold very shortly, after this will come the loud and final cry found in Rev 18:4
"COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE"
God bless!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
It is found in Rev 14 my friend, it is the stage where we are at present, it's called present truth!!
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
[7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and WORSHIP HIM that made HEAVEN, and EARTH, and the SEA, and the fountains of waters.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Errr! We are currently living in Revelation 16:12. Revelation 16:10 was fulfilled in 1798 AD when Napoleon and his army captured the pope and removed from him from the seat of the Beast.
theheat151 2 years ago
Ok, but Revelation was a foretelling of the tribulation that was to come then and there and until the return of Christ. This what Christ meant in Matthew 24:21.
theheat151 2 years ago
Matt 24 like Revelation were living prophecies, they unfolded piece by piece through time till the end, Rev 14 is where we are at present, Rev 14:7 is telling us to worship the Creator of Heaven, Earth and Sea, this is found in the 4th Commandment, look for yourself! Exod 20:8-11.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
You need to put together the clues and the pieces bit by bit, the Bible reveals all the truth, we do not need to speculate it only causes mass confusion!
Rev 14 tells us it is a worship issue, you will either worship the Beast or you will worship God!
If you worship God you will be sealed on your forehead, if you worship the Beast you will receive a Mark on your hand or forehead!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Satan counterfeits everything God does, he wants us to worship him, God has his Holy day the Sabbath, Satan has his Pagan SUN(worship)day, Sunday.
Mark and Seal are the same thing, your hand and forehead are taken straight from the Old Testament:
Deut 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
By keeping Gods Commandments it was SIGN that you belonged to him, the forehead is a symbol of your decisions, your hand a symbol of your actions.
By the decsions and actions you take will determine who you will decide to obey and worship, that is why after the 3 angels message it is clear:
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus!
What will you decide my friend?
theonewillcome 2 years ago
The very Beast power (The Vatican) who instituted the Sunday worship, the very power that both Daniel and Revelation point to will tell you themselves what their MARK is:
"Sunday is our mark of authority..... The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
What will your decision be my friend?
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
LOL! Are you even aware that the early gentile Church gathered on Sunday centuries before the RCC was established? LOL!
Just look at the writings of Ignatius - the disciple of Polycarp, he wrote that they gathered on the first day of the week and called that day, the "Lord's day". I don't believe the "Lord's day" is Sunday, but more like the "day of the LORD" spoken by the prophets. Nonetheless, they gathered on Sunday.
And guess what? I don't even attend sunday services.
theheat151 2 years ago
So do you attend Sabbath Services then? such as Sabbath Evening or Friday Night?
But i still wonder if these sources you mention are creditable, because they could be works of fiction made up in centuries before.
spoke777 2 years ago
1 John 3:23 "And this is his commandment, That we should BELIEVE on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and LOVE one another, as he gave us commandment. "
theheat151 2 years ago
@theonewillcome awesome well said and to think that the mark is a litium microschip how stupid is that?
timsh6 1 year ago
How about you read Exodus 13?
Exodus 13:9 "And it shall be for a SIGN unto thee upon thine HAND, and for a memorial BETWEEN thine EYES, that YHWH's torah may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath YHWH brought thee out of Egypt."
If you continue reading, you will see that the seal is the blood of the Lamb.
Exodus 13:16 "And it shall be for a TOKEN upon thine HAND, and for frontlets BETWEEN thine EYES: for by strength of hand YHWH brought us forth out of Egypt."
theheat151 2 years ago
Rev 16:12 are the last plagues my friend??
Exod 5:5 And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
The word rest in this verse is shabath (Sabbath), Moses and Aaron had reminded them of their covenant with God, when they decided to keep the Sabbath, Pharoh refused and told them to work on that day instead, God then plagued Pharoh, just like he'll do when they enforce SUNday law!
Scoff away my friend, you will see!
theonewillcome 2 years ago
Pharoh did try to force them to work on that day. Never thought of Egypt's plagues like that. Force is so foreign to God's way of doing things.
spoke777 2 years ago
Yes my friend, at present no one is forced to disobey Gods Commandments, just like in Pharohs time they Hebrews just forgot about them. When Moses and Aaron were sent by God to remind them, they believed him and decided it was right to keep them, at this point Pharoh was forcing them to break them. Soon people will have to make a choice as people will be forced to choose God or Satan, up to this point there is no force being used, then the plagues will come upon those who receive the Mark.
theonewillcome 2 years ago
@theonewillcome you,re right they have to choose to follow god and his commandments vs the commanmdnets of the papacy
timsh6 1 year ago
That is from Revelation 14.
Also I have heard the Catholic church call Sunday the Mark of their authority to Change God's sabbath with their Idea of their own power.
spoke777 2 years ago