subjectiv reality is pure consciousness u set ur self here to observe 1st hand ur creation since consciousness is alredy perfect u created time...illusion.... to experience growth
this dude dnt knw wat hes talkin abt..subjective reality is the ever present awareness in subjective reality the past does not exist..only the present momment
Everything that you ever experienced "externally" came from your senses, and was perceived "internally". Therefore, your "external" experienced are just as internal as any of your most private musings inside your head. Therefore, there is no objective reality at all. Only subjective reality, parts of which we seem to agree on with entities that we ASSUME are outside of our heads.
It is true that there is an objective reality of which we are growing towards through science; an existence independent of our perceptions. It is also true that there is a subjective reality that each one of us experiences individually through our own thoughts and feelings. Both realities are experienced by humans, and both of these concepts were formulated to heighten our awareness of the world around us. It is good to be aware of both realities; the one inside our minds and the one outside. :)
For your consideration: How do you know anything exists outside of your consciousness? If there was only your one consciousness, how would you be able to tell the difference? If you didn't have any thoughts or beliefs, what would your experience of the world be like? How much of your beliefs about reality comes from other people, media, institutions? How do you know other consciousnesses exist? If your consciousness is all there is would you feel empowered, or distressed?
We start with a subjective perspective as an infant. Then we collect belief systems about an objective world. Then if we drop our beliefs for a moment through witness meditation or psychedelics, we can see what those beliefs had obscured. If you haven't done that, it's a silly argument because you won't understand the subjective perspective. You'll be relying on your "objective" belief systems to parse reality. I've made that mistake myself in the past. Take some Salvia first.
Life is subjective but it's more like a video game or simulation like Total Recall or The 13th Floor than some kind of brains-in-a-vat like the matrix. When you not only become aware of the multi-verse but actually realize that you're actively shifting between parallel universes on a continual bases based on your overall vibrational resonance you start to realize that reality can bend to your will to some degree.
"Reality is an illusion, so there's nothing to do, I'm going back to sleep" is called "solipsism", and not SR. "Just because I can't experience it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist" is living on assumptions, isn't it? "No, it isn't" - but then again, you have no clue what SR means so your answer is obvious. Why, instead of hiding behind your skepticism, don't you try going down the rabbit hole? And get your beloved "facts" straight before making a video.
Hey dude!! -->you made your slef sound dumb when u miss analyzed the main plot behind the matrix movie. Humanity was not always under-control by the matrix!!!!!!!!!!!! ...instead the machines became smarter and eventually rebelled!
GET YOUR STUFF RIGHT b4 u try talking down good movies!!!!
Other than that, everything else was ok ...i guess!
When considering the Atom we realize a Atom is .00000000000000000000000001 matter. What we think is solid is mostly empty space or not there and we are calling that objective. Sense I can experience subjectively in regards to something mostly not there. What kind of conclusions can be made? What we call reality may be a subjective experience of a mass hypnosis. While looking at an object all our eyes see are wave functions not the object at all and the brain doesn't see any of that.
"Just because I can't experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist" the problem with this type of statement is that you are making an assumption, no more. Without experience, one cannot know. It is only until it is verified by evidence or an experiment [a word rooting in 'experiencing first hand'], that one is able to say for sure something exists. One must subjectively experience it or believe the words of another in order for anything to exist by our definition
@drkroman9 "Just because I can't experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist" the problem with this type of statement is that you are making an assumption, no more.
His generality is "There are things that exist whether or not anybody ever knows them.". If this is not so how is it that we are constantly making discoveries of things that existed before they were observed?
Even if there is an objective reality, we can not prove that it exists from our subjective viewpoints, and thus we shouldn't assume that it exists. I don't reject objective reality but I don't assume it either. Reality for me is that which I percieve. Anything beyond my perception is without meaning to me since I can not learn anything about it.
The opinions of these two people show subjective reality-what "is" beautiful. The reality of what is beautiful is based less on an objective fact and more on the individual's perception of what beauty is.
This would mean to me that both objective and subjective realities exsist, and are (arguably) equally important.
Ok, well going just off your definitions (i don't really know what the true definitions are, if not the ones you stated) I'd like to present this scenario:
There is a room in a which a man and a woman sit looking at photographs. In the course of them looking they happen to mention their favorite colors. The man likes red, the woman likes blue.
This is objective reality-the room exists, as do the people the photos and thier opinions.
Now, I walk in and ask the two to show me the photographs that are the most beautiful. The woman chooses a picture of the ocean, a beatiful blue with the bluest of blue skies above. The man chooses a photo of a girl in a red dress with a red flower in her hair.
reality is objective, but our reality is subjective. we all exist in a larger objective reality, but we perceive and know that reality internally, subjectively. and so reality is objective and subjective.
I have experienced at least several tactil (feeling) and visual hallucinations that were not in any way chemically induced. Therefore from my subjective reality one true objective reality for all does not exist. Does reality exist independant of a perceiver or does reality require an entity to perceive reality? I suppose in most religions God would be the unltimate perceiver so humans if created in thatish image may therefore have many or perhaps to some a peletheral of preceptive realities.
Those guys who deny objective reality actually fear loss of (political) power to those who talk about 'objective reality'. So they talk about equality of 'voices' / opinions. Like the few blind men touching the elephant, they fear _one_ blind person's opinion overpowering the others', so they come to the conclusion that the elephant does not exist, only the pillar, the rope, ... (parts of it that they touch). ;-)
i'm doing a film analysis of pan's labyrinth and the theme of reality vs. fantasy. i stumbbled upon your video and i just wanted to say thanks. i got a lot out of it. i know it isn't all grounded in an encyclodepia or anything, but it got my "brain juices flowing" hehe. thanks =]
to explain what i meant - i cant experience reality through your mind, or anyone else's mind, other than my own mind. so, maybe, that is a plausible argument to support subjective reality. i believe more in objective reality, because thats all i know, but i cant reject subjective reality, based on that question i posed. but what i could be posing is that reality is "absolute", in that, maybe ive created this :O lol but not in a conceited way, its just a proposition or indeed supposition :P
yeah, its hard to not accept objective reality. cuz even if we were to try to alter aspects of our supposed "subjective" reality with our mind, it never happens. but even that what im saying is subjective lol omg ive gone cross-eyed! but id have to agree that reality is objective whether we like or not. or whether were aware of it or not. but the question is, do other "minds" exist beside are own. we can only experience reality through our own perception, but not other's, if they exist or not...
The subjective aspect of reality, informationally speaking, vastly exceeds the known physical universe. Objective reality is really physical reality. There is no truly objective reality because cosciousness is subjective, and the immaterial and nonphysical abstractions of mind gives you everything to build on. Life isn't an illusion, or experience isn't illusion, but it is subjective. Peace.
I think what you are saying is that our ~experience~ of reality is subjective. I agree. But, that does not make reality itself subjective. It remains objective... we just can't experience it directly that way. It's objective nature has to be pieced together in a roundabout fashion.
Well, in a way I am saying that part of reality is objective and actually exists out there independently of our awareness. But another part, which is much greater in scope, exists as probability. But only that which is most probable is realized. However, this doesn't mean we can't experience that which is less probable, in fact consciousness is information, therefore it has no choice but to subjectively alter all experience at the most fundamental level.
Wow, thank you! (Heh, and when I read "people who make movies like this are ____, I was expecting something like "mental masturbators with way too much time on their hands.")
I respect your opinions. You are a good thinker. But I stand by a more subjective perception that we each live in our own private Universe and somehow manifest each other. It is difficult to explain.
Well, interesting question. To follow any religion, you have to believe in the paranormal to some degree. I am a "devout" Celtic Reconstructionist, so I do believe in some paranormal / supernatural things. Sort of. But as much as I'd like to believe ESP or telekinesis exists, I've never seen any real evidence of them, so I don't have any good reason to believe in them.
u r not ur ego ur true idenity is ur consciousness
str8footage 1 month ago
notthing exist outside of subjective reality cus its still n ur consciousness
str8footage 1 month ago
subjectiv reality is pure consciousness u set ur self here to observe 1st hand ur creation since consciousness is alredy perfect u created time...illusion.... to experience growth
str8footage 1 month ago
this dude dnt knw wat hes talkin abt..subjective reality is the ever present awareness in subjective reality the past does not exist..only the present momment
str8footage 1 month ago
your subconscious cant decipher from whats real and what isnt.
str8footage 1 month ago
Everything that you ever experienced "externally" came from your senses, and was perceived "internally". Therefore, your "external" experienced are just as internal as any of your most private musings inside your head. Therefore, there is no objective reality at all. Only subjective reality, parts of which we seem to agree on with entities that we ASSUME are outside of our heads.
anonymouse27 9 months ago
It is true that there is an objective reality of which we are growing towards through science; an existence independent of our perceptions. It is also true that there is a subjective reality that each one of us experiences individually through our own thoughts and feelings. Both realities are experienced by humans, and both of these concepts were formulated to heighten our awareness of the world around us. It is good to be aware of both realities; the one inside our minds and the one outside. :)
thirdimage 10 months ago
Woody Allen said it best, "If life is an illusion, I paid way too much for my carpeting".
lifeinpictures 1 year ago
For your consideration: How do you know anything exists outside of your consciousness? If there was only your one consciousness, how would you be able to tell the difference? If you didn't have any thoughts or beliefs, what would your experience of the world be like? How much of your beliefs about reality comes from other people, media, institutions? How do you know other consciousnesses exist? If your consciousness is all there is would you feel empowered, or distressed?
alexrush55 1 year ago
We start with a subjective perspective as an infant. Then we collect belief systems about an objective world. Then if we drop our beliefs for a moment through witness meditation or psychedelics, we can see what those beliefs had obscured. If you haven't done that, it's a silly argument because you won't understand the subjective perspective. You'll be relying on your "objective" belief systems to parse reality. I've made that mistake myself in the past. Take some Salvia first.
alexrush55 1 year ago
i completely agree and am now glad that i don't have to make a video saying the exact same thing.
komanoise 1 year ago
Life is subjective but it's more like a video game or simulation like Total Recall or The 13th Floor than some kind of brains-in-a-vat like the matrix. When you not only become aware of the multi-verse but actually realize that you're actively shifting between parallel universes on a continual bases based on your overall vibrational resonance you start to realize that reality can bend to your will to some degree.
enigmatically 1 year ago
objective is the brain. subjective is the mind.
subjectivity is the result of the form of objectivity.
you learn that in public school every for 12 years across many subjects. if you don't have it by now, sorry.
-AAN
addadhdnarc 1 year ago
"Reality is an illusion, so there's nothing to do, I'm going back to sleep" is called "solipsism", and not SR. "Just because I can't experience it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist" is living on assumptions, isn't it? "No, it isn't" - but then again, you have no clue what SR means so your answer is obvious. Why, instead of hiding behind your skepticism, don't you try going down the rabbit hole? And get your beloved "facts" straight before making a video.
furiaczeka 1 year ago
It's not the 'darkside' of the moon. It's the other side of the moon which always faces away from the earth, but it does sometimes face the sun.
Redbeardian 1 year ago
Hey dude!! -->you made your slef sound dumb when u miss analyzed the main plot behind the matrix movie. Humanity was not always under-control by the matrix!!!!!!!!!!!! ...instead the machines became smarter and eventually rebelled!
GET YOUR STUFF RIGHT b4 u try talking down good movies!!!!
Other than that, everything else was ok ...i guess!
cirusMEDIA 1 year ago
When considering the Atom we realize a Atom is .00000000000000000000000001 matter. What we think is solid is mostly empty space or not there and we are calling that objective. Sense I can experience subjectively in regards to something mostly not there. What kind of conclusions can be made? What we call reality may be a subjective experience of a mass hypnosis. While looking at an object all our eyes see are wave functions not the object at all and the brain doesn't see any of that.
questioneverything2 1 year ago
"Just because I can't experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist" the problem with this type of statement is that you are making an assumption, no more. Without experience, one cannot know. It is only until it is verified by evidence or an experiment [a word rooting in 'experiencing first hand'], that one is able to say for sure something exists. One must subjectively experience it or believe the words of another in order for anything to exist by our definition
drkroman9 1 year ago
@drkroman9 "Just because I can't experience, doesn't mean it doesn't exist" the problem with this type of statement is that you are making an assumption, no more.
His generality is "There are things that exist whether or not anybody ever knows them.". If this is not so how is it that we are constantly making discoveries of things that existed before they were observed?
DrDeist 1 year ago
The only possible way to exist is to be aware, but the only possible way to be aware is to be aware of something.
When you look you can only look at something.
Subjective and objective in sum is existence.
They are two sides of the very one thing.
So it's not like the universe is only subjective, but it must be subjective too.
I think :-)
mmistvan 2 years ago
Say, there was nothing in this universe, but you without a body - i mean a simple observer who is aware, and one objective thing, say a ball.
Now if this was all that existed, then what would happen if you the observer were asleep?
The ball's existence would be meaningless, since there is no one who could observe it. hence it doesn't exist.
And what if there was no ball but you?
How could you tell if you existed, if you cannot experience a thing?
mmistvan 2 years ago
I read that subjective reality does include objective reality on a different level.
cfox44 2 years ago
Even if there is an objective reality, we can not prove that it exists from our subjective viewpoints, and thus we shouldn't assume that it exists. I don't reject objective reality but I don't assume it either. Reality for me is that which I percieve. Anything beyond my perception is without meaning to me since I can not learn anything about it.
ChrisSweden 2 years ago
"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
dogredrum66 2 years ago
i beleave in something in the middle.
JinxTheSorcerer 2 years ago
Ha, read my entries in the opposite order please
The opinions of these two people show subjective reality-what "is" beautiful. The reality of what is beautiful is based less on an objective fact and more on the individual's perception of what beauty is.
This would mean to me that both objective and subjective realities exsist, and are (arguably) equally important.
Chaosamongus 3 years ago
Ok, well going just off your definitions (i don't really know what the true definitions are, if not the ones you stated) I'd like to present this scenario:
There is a room in a which a man and a woman sit looking at photographs. In the course of them looking they happen to mention their favorite colors. The man likes red, the woman likes blue.
This is objective reality-the room exists, as do the people the photos and thier opinions.
Chaosamongus 3 years ago
Now, I walk in and ask the two to show me the photographs that are the most beautiful. The woman chooses a picture of the ocean, a beatiful blue with the bluest of blue skies above. The man chooses a photo of a girl in a red dress with a red flower in her hair.
Chaosamongus 3 years ago
reality is objective, but our reality is subjective. we all exist in a larger objective reality, but we perceive and know that reality internally, subjectively. and so reality is objective and subjective.
friendlynihilist 3 years ago
I have experienced at least several tactil (feeling) and visual hallucinations that were not in any way chemically induced. Therefore from my subjective reality one true objective reality for all does not exist. Does reality exist independant of a perceiver or does reality require an entity to perceive reality? I suppose in most religions God would be the unltimate perceiver so humans if created in thatish image may therefore have many or perhaps to some a peletheral of preceptive realities.
egadslarads 3 years ago
Those guys who deny objective reality actually fear loss of (political) power to those who talk about 'objective reality'. So they talk about equality of 'voices' / opinions. Like the few blind men touching the elephant, they fear _one_ blind person's opinion overpowering the others', so they come to the conclusion that the elephant does not exist, only the pillar, the rope, ... (parts of it that they touch). ;-)
Heissenburger 3 years ago
Good point.
fiacharrey 3 years ago
i'm doing a film analysis of pan's labyrinth and the theme of reality vs. fantasy. i stumbbled upon your video and i just wanted to say thanks. i got a lot out of it. i know it isn't all grounded in an encyclodepia or anything, but it got my "brain juices flowing" hehe. thanks =]
adjauni 3 years ago
I'm happy that you found it useful! :)
fiacharrey 3 years ago
to explain what i meant - i cant experience reality through your mind, or anyone else's mind, other than my own mind. so, maybe, that is a plausible argument to support subjective reality. i believe more in objective reality, because thats all i know, but i cant reject subjective reality, based on that question i posed. but what i could be posing is that reality is "absolute", in that, maybe ive created this :O lol but not in a conceited way, its just a proposition or indeed supposition :P
replica07 3 years ago
yeah, its hard to not accept objective reality. cuz even if we were to try to alter aspects of our supposed "subjective" reality with our mind, it never happens. but even that what im saying is subjective lol omg ive gone cross-eyed! but id have to agree that reality is objective whether we like or not. or whether were aware of it or not. but the question is, do other "minds" exist beside are own. we can only experience reality through our own perception, but not other's, if they exist or not...
replica07 3 years ago
The subjective aspect of reality, informationally speaking, vastly exceeds the known physical universe. Objective reality is really physical reality. There is no truly objective reality because cosciousness is subjective, and the immaterial and nonphysical abstractions of mind gives you everything to build on. Life isn't an illusion, or experience isn't illusion, but it is subjective. Peace.
cruelfate45 3 years ago
Thank you for the comment!
I think what you are saying is that our ~experience~ of reality is subjective. I agree. But, that does not make reality itself subjective. It remains objective... we just can't experience it directly that way. It's objective nature has to be pieced together in a roundabout fashion.
fiacharrey 3 years ago
Well, in a way I am saying that part of reality is objective and actually exists out there independently of our awareness. But another part, which is much greater in scope, exists as probability. But only that which is most probable is realized. However, this doesn't mean we can't experience that which is less probable, in fact consciousness is information, therefore it has no choice but to subjectively alter all experience at the most fundamental level.
cruelfate45 3 years ago
People who make movies like this are unsung heroes.
FuckdaFish 3 years ago
Wow, thank you! (Heh, and when I read "people who make movies like this are ____, I was expecting something like "mental masturbators with way too much time on their hands.")
fiacharrey 3 years ago
That's what you have to be to believe in a truly subjective reality.
FuckdaFish 3 years ago
The best way to find out about the nature of reality, whether it be from the objective or subjective perspective, is to experiment with it.
thechoccybiccy 3 years ago
I respect your opinions. You are a good thinker. But I stand by a more subjective perception that we each live in our own private Universe and somehow manifest each other. It is difficult to explain.
gacktsthong 3 years ago
Well, interesting question. To follow any religion, you have to believe in the paranormal to some degree. I am a "devout" Celtic Reconstructionist, so I do believe in some paranormal / supernatural things. Sort of. But as much as I'd like to believe ESP or telekinesis exists, I've never seen any real evidence of them, so I don't have any good reason to believe in them.
fiacharrey 4 years ago
good vid. do you blieve in the paranormal? for example esp and telekinesis?
bohmana 4 years ago