SSBM Roy's counter glitch

[Jwillii]

This is just DI not a glitch at all.

[GeoffShouldWin]

How Many Falcon Punches does it take to kill roy

Not 9 :(

[lukestermnac]

The glitch is that he countered the Falcon Punch, because the Falcon Punch cannot be countered. He mutst have used cheat codes...

[Awesomedude022]

that is not a glitch it is one of roys moves

[GogotteandSig]

@Awesomedude022 Did you look at the...video at all?

[joegt123]

The lower his defenses, the harder he hits... Sounds about right on the guy that can actually hurt himself with his own fuckin attack.

[1trueNRG]

0:31 what did he hit?

[kofinater]

The real glitch is that he countered a falcon punch

[BikouTenma]

Manly DI for the final one, thats for sure.

For the middle, sometimes roy's counter has a roof, or something. Its odd. But I countered a bowsers Fsmash and he hit the roof and died by flying to the right side

[LittleArmah]

Roy just acquired the power of Chuck Norris.

[iChocolateAddict]

How the fuck do people discover these glitches

[LordArion201]

massive, manly DI right there

[kamajje]

@LordArion201 It's not DI, Marth and Roy have a known counter glitch where their flight pattern when sent flying will be glitched.

[300PIVOTMASTER]

omg you guys have never herd of roys and marths down b it counters and deals the same damage with the fire emblem wealthy and stealthyness

[JayCei1213]

IMPOSSIBLE!

Captain Falcon lost?

GLITCH!!!!

[KayRhomeProductions]

We like Ike.

But Roy's Our Boy!

[yoshi12335]

get rid Ike on SSBB replace Roy instead of ike

it would be great if roy is in the Brawl

Ike Marth is the only character on brawl they didn`t put roy on brawl why they just remove Olimar

[chimanruler15]

That has happened to me, too.

[fremoq]

Epic DI!

[CharlieChan29]

Roy at max handicap

Falcons at handicap of 1

[WTFBBQ888]

Roy was a terrible character so they took him out, same goes for mewtwo

[faltzergreiga]

roy's character is bad if you do not know how to use

I'm good with roy

[WTFBBQ888]

@faltzergreiga

Yeah like roy can be used in competitive match ups but unless you really outplay your opponent your going to lose like 75% of the time. he just doesnt match up to the higher tier characters.

[chimanruler15]

@WTFBBQ888 That's why he's low tier. =)

[chimanruler15]

@faltzergreiga Me, too. I beat level 9 CPU Marth with him. (It's not a big deal. I can beat anyone with Roy."

[hhheeeccckkk526]

@WTFBBQ888 thats not why they took them out. they did because ike and lucario were newer to their series. mewtwo kicked ass and roy was a hard character to master because he was slower and he had more damage with the middle of his sword. mewtwo was slippyer and had the 2 strongest throws in the whole game(back and up throw) lucario is a cheap ass for when he take damage he gets stronger

[latos44]

in super smash bros 4 they should put roy back and with some more fire emblem lords they should at least 1 put AX guy Hector

[PKFreakz]

@latos44 I want Leaf from Fire Emblem 5!!!

[timesplitter2512]

it isn't a glitch u noob. it's his counter attack and to do it it's B down. Marth does it 4 longer. BTW u only have a second for a counter4 when he shines a bit. If the enemy attacks you whilst doing that, u hit them back with equal strength

[gggaaaaaarrraaa]

Thats not what he's doing. The counter after the sheild makes them fly then out of no where makes them fly downward instead of stoping the upward momentum. n00b

[timesplitter2512]

ah hah... bit of a useless glitch though

[CodeGeassFan85]

@timesplitter2512

off the side it might be effective in screwing up their recovery or atleast throwing their DI off

[BuLhaNuL]

Never knew that was a glitch.

[timesplitter2512]

Where's the glitch?

[Rankaz41]

i realy like it when that happens

[XDbonsly]

I fucking love the invisible ceiling glitch

[risingphoenix86]

yeah, thats how i spiked my friends with counter on FD O_O

[ItachiGirl1992]

I almost didn't buy brawl because roy wasn't in it :(

[tjcombo86]

i feel u on that one

[SuperPixlmario64]

@ItachiGirl1992 We will all miss him..

[askylitpichu]

@ItachiGirl1992 RRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYY­YYYY D_:

[Yoububehahaha]

i have a feeling that there will be another ssb concidering the fact that its a money making machine and nintendo likes money...alot.

[PaKeTeMaTe18]

I agree with mrguesswho1966 roy was my fav char i can't belive they took him off i want him back :( pleaaase!!!

[zekefew]

well if you hack your wii and get brawl+ hackers are working on making move sets different and stuff like that and trying to actually get roy into brawl

[freakyjavier]

he my fav too

[DollOfSaw]

@mrguesswho sorry but there won't be another ssb...also it would be cool if roy AND ike could be in brawl, come on there are so many characters from super mario and just 2 of fire emblem, there could be more =D

[DragonG133]

Not a glitch....*sigh*. His counter is supposed to do all this. And I agree with Shynruu.

[mrguesswho1996]

remember how when we wanted sonic they put him in brawl maybe we can do the same for roy in ssb4 EVRYONE DO SOMETHING TO GET ROY BACK

[LordArion201]

lolwut, the 2nd set of counters was wierd

[TaliaTxT]

they hit an invicible ceiling thing. that happens normaly when someone hit someone else right after he got hit

[Shynruu]

why couldn't they just put Roy in ssbb and change his move set to his own unique style instead of just getting rid of him T.T

[TaliaTxT]

i hope you know that falco is just a mirror char too

[KLoughreyProductions]

With the best spike in the game.

[26zega]

@Shynruu cause that costs money.

[BEEFlNbandit]

@Shynruu because they slacked on making the game, then there was so much hype and they rushed it

[Doovongeman]

@BEEFlNbandit Rushed? Brawl was delayed like 4 times! It was anything but rushed. A bad game for example, it was.

[romeofire87]

what?

[disciple1313x]

I miss Roy in Brawl. I'd much rather have him than Ike...but who cares? I've got Marth!

[lilpeanuts123]

melee was amazing but i love brawl

[MetalSean0]

The glitch is not Roy's counter, it's the fact that the Captain Falcons hit an invisible ceiling in the second attempt, and instead of flying out of the screen, they bounce back down to the stage.

[dharken2]

No, Roy's counter is always like that.

[Un1234l]

it is, but the point of this video was showing you that the shield will change the trajectory of his counter

[tree2992]

isn't this just DI

[xPaRoXiuMx]

but DI won't give more damage

[xMentholMarth]

I'd guess this is with the damage ratio turned up?

[coreygames]

It's broken down like this-

1) No DI

2) Japanese DI

3) Smash DI

Look it up

[Sparkylilguy4u]

The only answer to this: Roy is pure awesome.

....WHY DID THEY REPLACE HIM WITH IIIKKKEE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!

[lazfart]

IKE is a fucking beast!

[Sparkylilguy4u]

Ike is too cheap! LoL i have nothing against Ike, i just wish they didn't take Roy out ;__;

[PikoPikoBlaster]

As a playable character, Roy was pretty meh.

He was essentially Marth, but the finesse of striking your foes with the blade's tip was replaced with the ease of attacking close-up.

It was either give Roy a new moveset, or replace him with someone who HAD a new moveset, and since Roy was there to promote a new FE game he never stood a chance.

[imassbbfan]

Sinse when did Sakurai care about replacing and changing up clones and move sets? Lawl

LAND MASTAAAA!!!

[PikoPikoBlaster]

...Okay you've got me there.

At least Wolf plays pretty differently to Fox though.

[Sparkylilguy4u]

Lol jk Ike is awesome. And who cares if there are 3 fire emblem people?? It's a great series!

[Brightfur10]

Yeah, poor Roy. I still love Ike to death, but still. I wish Roy made it in brawl WITH Ike

[Headfonezz]

Ike is a n00b character.

Roy rules.

Marth and Roy again and MEWTWO INSTEAD OF PKMN TRAINER

[Sparkylilguy4u]

Yeah, he is. But he's still cool!

They should have kept everyone from melee and added even more people! I miss mewtwo and pichu and ROY. I like the pokemon trainer tho, charizard is fun to fight with! :3

[Headfonezz]

I used to play as Ike.. when I first got the game, I thought he was like roy... :(

Yet he has one of my favourite Final Smashes...

as for PKMN Trainer I don't like him... my fave PKMN character is by far Jigglypuff got 600m with her on HRC xD

But my favourite character(s) is Ice Climbers, Chain grabbing rules...

[PikoPikoBlaster]

The disc for Brawl is pretty much filled with everything they have in there, and it can hold more than a standard Wii disc.

If they had kept everyone from Melee, they would've missed a chance to bring new characters in.

[ilikepizza10]

Still, those characters from Melee were awesome!

[kilkat15]

just add all the characters xD

[kenneth1win]

ike fights for his friends?

but roy is still beast

[nomercyolan]

exis kati mazi m re palave? ekama s kati?

[blzdout]

No this is normal. Both Roy and Marth does it.

[ThaZatzke]

For the slow people: The glitch is at 0:21 when Roy counters and the Capt. Falcons hit an invisible ceiling.

And don't even try to say that isn't a glitch. It is.

[spikeyguy777]

Not a glitch, simply DI.

[DRDYME23]

it happens =/

[kluuuser]

yes for ceiling counter "spikes" XD

[yeahyah11]

basically just use ur sheild a little and do the counter not much of a glitch

[BlueSundew]

Where's the "glitch"????

[mykofalco]

The 'glitch' that's being shown on the video is the invisible ceiling bounce shown when the falcon goes on diagonal fall somewhere in the middle of the video.

[TheDucksta]

I find it funny that everybody here doesn't watch the video yet replies saying it's not a glitch.

[Sothe17]

No glitch there. That would be the same speed Roy would be going if he got Falcon punched. His counter deal's the same as the attacker.

[DCyclops]

Hmm.. Seeing how their dmg is at 36% never knew falcon punch would make someone fly like that... Dumb ass reply.. It is a glitch.. Pay attention...

[Sothe17]

No glitch. That's just Roy's counter affect.

[strayfang007]

So, invisible ceilings aren't glitches.

Your an idiot.

[dh3790]

If I recall they are not supposed to hit invisible ceilings, they are supposed to fly away into the background. So yes. It is a glitch.

[silverhalo117]

A little perk added to Roy's counter was that Roy can control the DI or the people he counters. If the counter was strong enough.

Marth's has a set DI which forces you downward after the initial counter.

Test it yourself!

[tranquilizer17]

GOD you idiots, if ou now roy, you know about the tech of his counter. It's that the sem to hit a ceiling and fly downwards that is so weird. l2notice easily seen shit

[windlessbasher]

Wtf O_o aren't they supposed to go diagonnaly up?

Not up then STRAIGHT DOWN

[roxasxdarknessx]

Not a glitch...

[tasusaske]

not a glitch actually

[Pyraquis]

no the captain falcons are bouncing off of an invisible ceiling.

[Hamsterlord106]

asdi

[ArkBlanc]

not a glitch, its working as intended.

Roy will counterattack with the same strength as the attack he counters.

[anglechao]

Explane the diffrent locations then, ArkBlac.

[HOLYCRAP1234321]

Hey, idiots. The counter isn't the glitch.

[flamex275]

dude. its not a glitch. you know when you do like ↓ B, it does nothing? but its someone attacks you and you do it, it attacks back. Its like a -9,999,999,999 chance of the glitch. that means its not real!

[kazenokizumi]

its that in MID AIR THEY CHANGE DIRECTION OF FLIGHT

[litomonkey]

yeah its true onli dumbass wouldnt no tht >.>.... its no where near a glitch

[blahoho]

1.) That's not a glitch.

2.) Because Roy's Counter returns anything thrown at it by like.. x1.5 or x2 (I forget) the damage and knockback it is hit by...

3.) Yeah..

[chred2akrisp]

you're dumb. considering a post one day before yours also said why you're dumb, i'm just going to copy paste.

"everyone READ THIS:

the actual move roy is pulling... Down + B, is a MOVE not a glitch. the glitch is the direction that he hits them after he counters

incase you didnt know. "

[AzureAsch]

OMG!!!A friend told me of this,but i didn't believe him!!!Now i do.

[burntfish44]

everyone READ THIS:

the actual move roy is pulling... Down + B, is a MOVE not a glitch. the glitch is the direction that he hits them after he counters

incase you didnt know.

[weregonnaneedvehicle]

.....who said the Down +B was a glitch......

[mddr9888]

so the glitch or for basically glitches u wunt to taunt before the counter? man...those can be sum sick mind games against capt. falcon Lol

[robb90000]

For everyone saying that he upped damage ratio, Falcon Punch on average does 20-30% damage (I forget, haven't played in a while) and Roy's counter does a 1.5 damage ratio. So yes, it is accurate for Roy to be hitting between 30 and 40% on that particular counter. As for the glitch, perhaps it's not a glitch but a random chance thing Nintendo put in. Or it could just be the way Roy's sword is angled on impact that creates the invisible wall. But yeah, pretty sure the shield has no effect on it.

[robb90000]

And yes, I just remembered damage ratio has no effect on actual percentages, but consider the fact that a single Falcon Punch KO's at 30%. Lastly, it could just be a lag on the system seeing they flew at the angle the sword was at on impact, and the shield helped create this lag by the game registering the Falcon Punch breaking Roy's shield, but then being overrided by the counter, making a slight delay in registering the hit, making the invisible wall. Just a guess.

[robb90000]

My bad, Roy has a 1.25 ratio counter.

[gamerperson2]

o rly?

[robb90000]

If I mained Roy for the past 7-8 years, I think I know what I'm talking about, no?

[gamerperson2]

nah I just do that to people who have really long comments

[NexxtGen]

lol :)

[mikhasw]

The fact that you didn't know that Roy's counter didn't do more damage OR that his counter did 1.25x knockback suggest that maybe you don't know what you're talking about.

[mileswc000]

For all of you guys who haven't noticed, the glitch was that depending on how much shield you had left, the capt. falcons hit invisible walls and flew in a different direction each time.

[tchab05]

now try to tech on this invisble wall :D would be gg lol

[twilightlink261]

omg noobs

roys counter does double damage and the radio was probobly on 2.0

[MarioManiac08]

that wasn't the glitch

[weregonnaneedvehicle]

radio?

[mindfreakpro]

Could be the "dragon counter" chance. i killed giga bowser with it once before. It's a freakishly fast, powerful defensive strike.

and it does around 30-40%

[Boututu]

does DI can do this or simply an invisible ceiling?

[Tornadith]

Wow you guys are idiots. Roy's counter is different from Marth's and his counter does the same force and damage as the attack that Roy countered. That's why the counters hit so hard. And also 2.0 damage ratio too.

[YoshiFanForever]

Anyone else wondering if he turned up the damage ratio to 2.0 and then had Captian Falcon perform Falcon Punch then Roy Counter it to make Captian die, more easiley so he can call this a glitch?

[Madchimpz]

I would always fight my friend who was Marth, and he would his counter would always make me go downward.

[laoboyken]

thats tight

[leon122190]

depends on the angle of the attack

[FireEmblemPride38]

Well, actually the highest one-hit combo for Roy is 386%, 1 Roy counters a full Oil Panic from Game And Watch, he then gets his attack countered by another Roy into himself and the Roy go's flying.

[DLOArceus]

ehm,436%.and for the video,maybe you can unvolontary set up the damage ratio to 2.0?

[IEATn00bZORZ]

It must have something to do with the way counters and reflectors are shield breakable with strong enough attacks (continuously reflected red shells are popular with fox and falco).

[linkisrinku]

thats supost to happen its not a glitch

[StrikeZeroX25]

An invisible ceiling is suppose to come?

[TheSuperSmashBrother]

If it's supposed to happen, why does the sudden spike vary depending on the remainder of the counterer's shield?

[DemonReaper3928]

There's no proof that it's the shield that's affecting it. There are more factors than that being shown, like my earlier comment about where he's standing. I think the guy who first commented (linkisrinku) was just oblivious to the fact that it changes where they go after countered.

[TheSuperSmashBrother]

... okee.

[WhiteWolf47]

Wow.. that's pretty amazing. I wonder if it works with Marth in brawl. :)

[DemonReaper3928]

When I saw it, I thought it might of had something to do with where you were standing on the platform, and I still think it may have something to do with it. The third one's the weirdest, but it's the only one where Roy and Falcon are both "flat" on the platform, whereas Roy is off on the slant in the other two attempts. Could also have something to do with attack wear and tear, like when you use his Flare Blade attack and the explosions are less powerful each time.

[pumpkinbot]

Falcon...PU-OHHhhhh! XD

[Impercepted]

What the heck is the glitch here?

If he's assuming that the "air spike" is a glitch, then that's wrong. Roy's counter is meant to do that, manily because on a smaller level, it'll act as a semi-spike, so it would be harder to recover from such a hit.

[qwerty842]

the glitch is

the sheild affects the trajectory you counter them

like with the full shield it killed one of the cfalcons

[bobomb1]

....oooh i get it now =D

[owend0135]

when captain falcon rebounds, do u think they could tech? that would be really cool. They would stop in midair. (for those who don't know, teching is when u press shield when u hit a wall and instead of rebounding, you just stop moving

[swimminkakashi]

The reason why this happens is (supposedly) if you use his counter as if it was a smash attack. So if you want, just test it out. However, I don't know what's up with number 3 in this video.

[GKoopa]

The glitch is (I think) that the captain falcons rebound off of nothing in the second one.

[Shallowheart]

I dont see the glitch, in ssbm roys counter reflected the hit in full force, marths was a set amount, Now in brawl ike and marth have the same style of counter roy did.

[awsomedude1oncp]

Lol I remember one time me and my friend were playing melee, and I told him that i would let him use that charge attack on me (the one where you hold B) and right before he attacked me with full power, i reflected it!!! He lost a life!! And he fell for this trick everytime!

[Thecatarattat]

This so fake. Everyone knows the falcon punch is unblockable and sure as hell cant be countered in real life.

[MrMajugi]

unblockable? have you played this game?

[Thecatarattat]

*sigh* I'm joking. Game wise, it's probably the easiest blockable move in all, with a long start-up time.

[MrMajugi]

ok sorry about that

[Thecatarattat]

Not a problem...

[mrmajugi3]

hehe^^

[smallpenis1]

this happens with marth's counter, too

[aguy1993]

This is why Roy isn't Brawl. He went to arena full of C.Falcons and kicked their asses to power level. Now Roy attacks are all OHKOS

[ghostoo666]

i like to refer to what that is by "air wall" because it happens with other people other than roy (but most often roy). I used jigglypuff's Down+B and an air wall saved someone -.-

[Atomic093]

it is like the falcons are smashed against a ceiling(but there isnt a ceiling)^^"

[Shnogenfogee]

Other than the fact that the captain falcons seem to bounce off something non existant, i dont see much glitchage

[TrueVietgirl4Life]

lame he just put the damage radio to 2.0

[broodhavoc93]

its double stick di it looks like