I think everyone should stop arguing which akuma is better. They are both good in their own way. Tokido is better at the vortex and momochi is good at zoning, footsies, and fireball games.
IMO, Momochi is absolutelly, without a doubt, the best SF4 player I have ever seen...
I was just looking at some Uryo vids, thinking "Wow Uryo is really damn good!" then I saw this vs Momochi in the related and thought "All right now I think he's gonna lose." and yep, I was right. Momochi is amazing.
so i was looking for a good Viper vid, and holy fuck even though he lost that viper looks amazing, makes her look really damn fun to play, i heard shes extremely technical though and im a shoto nub :(
@legendofsource Daigo beats Wong repeatedly. And personally, Daigo seems to have better composure in tournaments. Wong gets nervous. We can see that at EVO09.
truly a nice possibility to counter the ex seismo, wow me as a viper player also uses the ex seismo as counter option after wakeup, the lp (or lk) option select is truly flawless
yeah, he a key knuckle cancel which left him wide open for a punish...you know this two character's are completely different in style but both have low health and both live and die by the mix up and perfect execution
@broli720 its obviously impossible to prove one person (momochi) is the best player in the world. it's apparent LUCiUSxAmv is saying momochi is a kick-ass ssf4 player. !~der lieutenant literal.
its cause of gouki's vortex possibilities. i'm sure you're gonna ask, "what's a vortex." its simply means his mind games with an opponent who is down. some moves lets the opponent pop back up into standing position right away (ie goshoryuken). the sweep negates their pop up and gives you time to think of you're next mind game move.
Momochi is amazing. His skill is truly undeniable, as much as I love uryo's viper...I gotta admit his performances against anyone (from daigo to uryo to almost anybody) are always strategic and on point.
damn uryo could won the first round if he connected the cr. fp before his ex seismo at the end and the second one, momochi just fucked him up with mixups =) gg
uryo is a all around better player. momochi shouldnt have won. just take a look at uryos fights. yes momochi beat daigo which is impressive but still uryo is the cream of the crops
loll what the fuck are you talking about? stop making excuses, Momochi beat him and that's that. Maybe you're just mad because you're a Viper mainer...maybe
that doesn't make sense because he can safely mixup with medium demon flip after a hard shoryu. But i can see why it wont be safe because opponents will try to get back up immediately after a hard shoryu but the sweep is somewhat unexpected so.
SICK match...though i'm sure Uryo missed the killing combo at the end of round one...cross up HK should have gone into crouching fierce...I think that would have hit and allowed the seismo to combo...maybe he didnt bother due to dodgy range or maybe it was a screw up lol
shoryuken weakens the pressure because opponent can quick recover while you are recovering from shoryuken (you cant quick recover after sweep). which makes situation even in terms of pressure.
vipers move mechanics just isnt worth it IMO. She has to be 100% spot on for alot of things, especially the SNK rippoff ground pound, super jump, in air fire kick.
i think you're totally wrong about her mechanics not being worth it, but you're definitely entitled to your own opinion. i agree that there are somethings that are difficult about her however its not impossible for a player to be roughly 90% with her executing things.
also viper is more like captain commando than any snk char in existance...if anything she just LOOKS like a cross between vanessa and cammy.
because now MOMOCHI play variabily, no same and evolved, now game in japan know much, tatsu + shoryu him use et END combo maybe or when critically situation
Sweep doesn't allow for quick recovery. Gives Momochi time to setup for his high/low mix-ups on Uryo's recovery. As you can see, he went low 3 times and Uryo guessed wrong all 3 times.
he didnt miss the jumping HK. viper has invincibility frames on ex seismo startup but he started the c. lk to stuff it and proceeded with his BnB combo.
That was some smooth OS's
RuggedHawaiian 9 months ago
I think everyone should stop arguing which akuma is better. They are both good in their own way. Tokido is better at the vortex and momochi is good at zoning, footsies, and fireball games.
wccira 1 year ago
i think Momochi is a better Akuma than Tokido
Macdaddy487 1 year ago
Wow...never saw uryo taken to school so hard before..
DanTheWarder 1 year ago
Yo Momochi, I herd u liek mudkipz?!?!1?!!
XxFudgexX 1 year ago 2
He could've done a raging demon at the end for dramatic effect and for the U.
Speedygi 1 year ago
Does Momochi option select that jump in at 1:39?? If so what the hell is that input?? and at 1:42 is that also an option select or just a safe jump?
wccira 1 year ago
@wccira At 1:39 I believe he did j.rh ~ c.lk+lp (os throw) so when the ex seismo made the j.rh whiff he got c.lk. 1:42 was just j.rh ~ c.rh.
reQexe 1 year ago
@reQexe sorry what is j. rh?
wccira 1 year ago
@wccira jumping roundhouse/fierce kick
reQexe 1 year ago
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wccira 1 year ago
Momochi is fucking disgusting this makes me sick that people are this good at SF..
wccira 1 year ago 2
tht second round opening was insane!
i love watching Momochi playing as akuma/gouki
Deadarknight 1 year ago
MOMO. Still the best effing Akuma everrr,
Nooble42 1 year ago 2
Momochi has about a minute and a half to punish aggressive moves... lol. What a moron.
geffrod 1 year ago
Some nice option selects by Momochi. It's a shame Uryo didn't pressure more for that Dizzy.
GamingNinja2 1 year ago
c.viper reminds me of storm in marvel vs capcom 2 HAAAA HIAAAAAAAA HIAAAAAAAAAAA
TheDonaldduck911 1 year ago
My two favourite players... Going 1 on 1!
MickieJamesFTW 1 year ago
viper scream too damn much.. she must do the same in bed too.. lol
yourleftnut1 1 year ago
My dick got hard from 1:34 onwards
XxGonixXFAN 1 year ago
Ye momochi is easy. i can see rigth through hes tactics.
DBZ1980s 1 year ago
@DBZ1980s sure you can; hindsight is 20/20
ocping 1 year ago
Yum, Uryo.
Was hoping he would win; Momo's getting too much attention as of late for raping Daigo.
Dwakey 1 year ago
jesus. OS every where in the las round
Udermench 1 year ago
akuma is so sick but his specials are useless cause theyre impossible to set up
XAeolusX 1 year ago
IMO, Momochi is absolutelly, without a doubt, the best SF4 player I have ever seen...
I was just looking at some Uryo vids, thinking "Wow Uryo is really damn good!" then I saw this vs Momochi in the related and thought "All right now I think he's gonna lose." and yep, I was right. Momochi is amazing.
Yzyz00r 1 year ago
so i was looking for a good Viper vid, and holy fuck even though he lost that viper looks amazing, makes her look really damn fun to play, i heard shes extremely technical though and im a shoto nub :(
Trollinitsobvious 1 year ago
IMO uryo daigo and wong are the best, in no particular order
legendofsource 1 year ago
@legendofsource Daigo beats Wong repeatedly. And personally, Daigo seems to have better composure in tournaments. Wong gets nervous. We can see that at EVO09.
Invincnerd 1 year ago
highest respect to both players. uryo and momochi are the 2 best in my opinion
TheManowarBabsi 1 year ago
Ex seismo invulnerability is so short duration that you can punish just by mashing low punches,and i highly doubt they upped its invul frames in ssf4
zontar100 1 year ago
I thought Japanese players didn't attack their opponents when stunned?
danni13371 1 year ago
Momochi should have finished Uryo off with his Ultra to make it more humiliating.
KineruMuzunaki 1 year ago
Very nice option selects to finish viper off.
loveandpeace1 1 year ago
@loveandpeace1 where were the option selects?
ACTUALLYrussell 1 year ago
At 1:38 anti EX seismo short option select after the jump in. At 1:42 jump RH c.RH option select to beat the dashback.
loveandpeace1 1 year ago
@loveandpeace1
truly a nice possibility to counter the ex seismo, wow me as a viper player also uses the ex seismo as counter option after wakeup, the lp (or lk) option select is truly flawless
TheManowarBabsi 1 year ago
Too bad for Uryo....
He lost first round win at 1:05 lost combo...
Azatis 1 year ago
Yeah it's pretty fucked up that demon flip > dive kick cleanly beats viper's fierce thunder knuckle.
terbocheez 2 years ago
that vortex was executed beautifully!
Maximabeatbox 2 years ago
Justin wong is probably the best US player but definitely not the world.
Ubahman 2 years ago 5
well i guess u r right. actually he is quite good even against other world class players, but i dun quite like him
ZRyuKageZ 2 years ago
Uryo choked hard the first round. x(
doraemonrox 2 years ago
@doraemonrox Where did he choke?
needcollegeloan 2 years ago
Ahaha hard to explain, only Viper players notice it.
1:04
Usually its a fierce to ex seismo then an instant BK to finish.
That would had killed him, but he missed the fierce and when straight into the seismo causing the combo not to connect.
doraemonrox 2 years ago 4
yeah, he a key knuckle cancel which left him wide open for a punish...you know this two character's are completely different in style but both have low health and both live and die by the mix up and perfect execution
spiderman112004 2 years ago
Lmao I love how I got thumb down'd when I said Uryo choked, but when I explained it to the less knowledgeable the reasoning I get thumb up'd.
doraemonrox 2 years ago
Uryo is probably one of the best C.Vipers in the world (if its not the best).
ThiagoZeroUm 2 years ago
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Justin Wong = best player in the world
cenagod 2 years ago
"Incredible I can hardly belief my eyes! - K.O.!!"
this says everything...
IMB4L4ND 2 years ago
that last round was nasty! awesome player! Akuma forever!!!!
monkeybrain1989 2 years ago 5
momochi = best player in the world
LUCiUSxAmv 2 years ago 34
@LUCiUSxAmv umm not really
broli720 1 year ago
@broli720 its obviously impossible to prove one person (momochi) is the best player in the world. it's apparent LUCiUSxAmv is saying momochi is a kick-ass ssf4 player. !~der lieutenant literal.
noJutsu1000 1 year ago
disgusting, buff vipers wakeup ability plz.
cubanjr2 2 years ago
sorry... forgot to turn on the CLUTCH switch. :D
mloclam7 2 years ago 6
LOL that was kick ass
lysergicpixel 2 years ago 4
Momochi WENT IN.
XtraClipz 2 years ago 14
haha yes miles. yes he did
rodneymullen1717 2 years ago
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XtraClipz 2 years ago
GG.
LiangHuBBB 2 years ago 4
So beautiful. Uryo get his ass Pwned
toox 2 years ago 2
Pretty brutal comeback by Momochi in the end there!
rsaran1288 2 years ago
why using down round house instead of shuryoken? when Gouki's combo
hamad1979 2 years ago
cant quick stand after a roundhouse, so its leaves the wakeup game in akuma's favour
aznfoolz 2 years ago 6
aha .. thanks m8
hamad1979 2 years ago
the sweep allows momochi to play mindgames with uryo... since the sweep is untechable, it leaves momochi with many mixup options that gouki has...
eg. sweep->demonflip->grab or kick or the next best one is
sweep->demonflip->punch cancel...
(gives safe jump and allows you to block a reversal attack leaving you to counter)
KillaHitman 2 years ago 2
its cause of gouki's vortex possibilities. i'm sure you're gonna ask, "what's a vortex." its simply means his mind games with an opponent who is down. some moves lets the opponent pop back up into standing position right away (ie goshoryuken). the sweep negates their pop up and gives you time to think of you're next mind game move.
thatonekid316 2 years ago 2
and the opponent only has a 1 in 4 chance of guessing right, truely godlike stuff.
RiceLUMFAO 2 years ago 4
@RiceLUMFAO
Well, unless your opponent has a teleport, then this totally screw gouki's vortex..
Poor viper..
SedoSan 2 years ago
not if they buffer demon.
RiceLUMFAO 2 years ago
balls of steel @ 1:01. dashing under the fireballs for a throw. uryo is my idol lol
DaveyDave808 2 years ago 2
Momochi is amazing. His skill is truly undeniable, as much as I love uryo's viper...I gotta admit his performances against anyone (from daigo to uryo to almost anybody) are always strategic and on point.
Ancientgunz 2 years ago 6
So crazy how momochi zones out 1:32 I wish I knew how to read people like that
OceansXFiring 2 years ago
I'm wondering why didn't the viper do her ultra when gouki's up in the air at the last part. I'm pretty noob here =(
alexanderegrt 2 years ago
because the viper was caught in that gouki vortex
trikon123 2 years ago 3
Momochi was safe jumping there's no way Ultra would connect
SephirothRK 2 years ago
That was sick
JoLucci 2 years ago
I wanted to see the Ultra bust out at the end :(
GamingNinja2 2 years ago
damn uryo could won the first round if he connected the cr. fp before his ex seismo at the end and the second one, momochi just fucked him up with mixups =) gg
FeeldaFia 2 years ago
uryo is a all around better player. momochi shouldnt have won. just take a look at uryos fights. yes momochi beat daigo which is impressive but still uryo is the cream of the crops
lolmouf 2 years ago
why shouldn't have momochi won? uryo was outplayed in this match.
afroboy11 2 years ago 5
loll what the fuck are you talking about? stop making excuses, Momochi beat him and that's that. Maybe you're just mad because you're a Viper mainer...maybe
kugashira101 2 years ago 7
I don't think you've watched many momochi vids hahah
OceansXFiring 2 years ago
That whiffed jumpink HK was priceless. Perfect set up for the last sweep/stun. Momochi's mind games are awesome.
binky3000 2 years ago
y does momochi finish akuma's b&b combo of light tatsumaki to sweept instead of hard shoryuken?? probably because of higher dizzyness rate?
HwarangOfFaith 2 years ago
So he can safely mixup with the light demon flip with either the kick or grab
MrVietStuRR 2 years ago
that doesn't make sense because he can safely mixup with medium demon flip after a hard shoryu. But i can see why it wont be safe because opponents will try to get back up immediately after a hard shoryu but the sweep is somewhat unexpected so.
HwarangOfFaith 2 years ago
yeah for that stun. the sweep does high stun.
trikon123 2 years ago
same stun on both the sweep gives you an un-techable knockdown for mix-up.
xBokkiNx 2 years ago
I dunno if it deals more stun but it gives and untechable knockdown which gives you more time to think about your mix-up.
sabotage2109 2 years ago
holy frickin hell @ second round
jinxcrusader 2 years ago
hoooooly fucking shitballs on TOAST!
Graftin2006 2 years ago
SICK match...though i'm sure Uryo missed the killing combo at the end of round one...cross up HK should have gone into crouching fierce...I think that would have hit and allowed the seismo to combo...maybe he didnt bother due to dodgy range or maybe it was a screw up lol
XavierRose3001 2 years ago
shoryuken weakens the pressure because opponent can quick recover while you are recovering from shoryuken (you cant quick recover after sweep). which makes situation even in terms of pressure.
stun is only important when rushing.
onbeygir 2 years ago
vipers move mechanics just isnt worth it IMO. She has to be 100% spot on for alot of things, especially the SNK rippoff ground pound, super jump, in air fire kick.
jdigitalseven 2 years ago
i think you're totally wrong about her mechanics not being worth it, but you're definitely entitled to your own opinion. i agree that there are somethings that are difficult about her however its not impossible for a player to be roughly 90% with her executing things.
also viper is more like captain commando than any snk char in existance...if anything she just LOOKS like a cross between vanessa and cammy.
ShinKensou 2 years ago
Just saying SNK had a character that was a female spy that used technology as she fought a couple years ago.
jdigitalseven 2 years ago
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Akuma is basically a better version of Viper. Low hp, high dmg, but easier mechanics :l
Still, <3 Uryo
jynxycats 2 years ago
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and Gief is basically a better version of Honda. High hp, high dmg, but easier mechanics :|
xanieeee 2 years ago
2nd round is the best
apreasher 2 years ago
this may be a noob question but im curious as to why momochi cHKs after the tatsu rather than a dp?
iponyou 2 years ago
because now MOMOCHI play variabily, no same and evolved, now game in japan know much, tatsu + shoryu him use et END combo maybe or when critically situation
Goutetsuu 2 years ago
just a guess but i think it's to put pressure on uryo. just another way for him to mix-up his game and create his own pace.
BaldieBasher 2 years ago
It contributes to the stun bar more than the srk would in that combo.
vertoxz123 2 years ago
thats what i thought at first but i wasnt sure.thanks
iponyou 2 years ago
Sweep doesn't allow for quick recovery. Gives Momochi time to setup for his high/low mix-ups on Uryo's recovery. As you can see, he went low 3 times and Uryo guessed wrong all 3 times.
BigRedNutcase911 2 years ago 4
also does more stun i bleieve
macnation34 2 years ago
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iponyou 2 years ago
i like i like
rugiOHHHH 2 years ago
Man that was an awesome 2nd round.
TECxGamingChannel 2 years ago
love how momochi whiff the jumping HK to hit viper low...
ron0804 2 years ago 2
wow, he was doing that on purpose? Why is that?
khanjutsu 2 years ago
it is part of his mix-up game,
he is intentioanlly missing the jumping HK so that the enemy will think to block high, only to be hit by a low attack, momochi's combo enseus
ron0804 2 years ago
Is there less recovery on a late whiffing jump hk than an early one that comes out fully?
candiasis333 2 years ago
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khanjutsu 2 years ago
he didnt miss the jumping HK. viper has invincibility frames on ex seismo startup but he started the c. lk to stuff it and proceeded with his BnB combo.
hayhayitstj 2 years ago 3
at 1:41 the jumping HK whiffs due to backdash late which he punishes quickly with the c. HK. there are no jumping roundhouse feints.
hayhayitstj 2 years ago 3
momochi is too good
mcsmay 2 years ago 4
word.
SATSUIelwood 2 years ago
uryo is too fast
perereca 2 years ago