The curiously contradictory concept of global warming

[Edmundo400]

One hefty volcano could outdo all our human efforts, good or bad?

I pin my hopes on the Projector Room and still do my bit!

[Loreleila]

Indeed. We are small. Though we are also big.

[ReliableInsider]

Science is not an international conspiracy. It's just people gathering data and letting the data speak for itself as it has on this issue.

The oil industry can buy a few scientists. Luckily, it can't buy all of them.

[ReliableInsider]

SomethingSeaTrashed,

Either you believe in science or you don't. The global climate change issue was resolved through the preponderance of the evidence and global consensus.

Science works by scientific evidence.

You seem to be turning not believing into some kind of religion. You have faith that scientists have no idea what they're talking about.

Are you similarly skeptical of scientists who -support- oil industry objectives?

[phekwig]

For a lot of things we were more wasteful of resources in the past than we are now...

Either way, the planet will for ever be in search of equilibrium... It's only reacting to changes now...

[Loreleila]

In many ways you're correct, though we are decimating the planet in style these days. Globally, not locally. But yes, the planet will find its equlibrium, with or without us. It may need to be rid of us to do so of course.

[fehquig]

Still, we cannot lose sight of the fact that we are part of the evolution of the planet, and not some foreign pest that was introduced to wreak havoc with the ecological balance, or are we? Still, with our departure a gross imbalance will remain, and you're right, the world will always seek an equilibrium but it will not by nature remain naturally balanced all by itself as all things are changing always...

[Loreleila]

It's funny the way you come back and respond as someone else. :)

[fehquig]

I initially view videos from three different channels so that in case I go away or can't log in for a few days I don't lose any videos beyond the five page mark... When I reply I'm logged into YouTube from only my main channel on the default browser. I'm logged into my other channels on two other web browsers, and it's too much of a hassle to switch default browsers every time I get another email notification.

It saves me some time and I hope it doesn't confuse you too much :)

[Loreleila]

It doesn't confuse me at all, just makes me smile. :)

[Kabuki0009]

you make good point I have a deep dark scene of foreboding about the future, resource wars, the powerful preying on the weak for the scraps that remain of world's resources. Iraq was just the beginning *****stars; )

[Loreleila]

I think if we can demystify and wake up, stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated into thinking we have no influence or choice this might begin to go the other way.

[ThePointlessPoint]

Global warming is so 2006 . . . it's called 'climate change' now.

Get with the programming ;)

[Loreleila]

I am outside the programme ;)

[Loreleila]

Indeed. Consensus and reality are not necessarily one and the same. Funny how so may assume it is.

[yeahwotevaman]

People didn't consume so much 50 years ago only because they did not have the means to do so.

[Loreleila]

I don't think thats the case. It was a different mindset, culturally more different than one could imagine. Of course wars during the last century had a significant impact on that, but frugality and care with resources marked the first 50 or 60 years or so of the last century and prior to that the majority had remarkably little. Mankind may always have been greedy, but the escalation has reached epic proportions previously unknown in history I'd say. We've lost the plot.

[yeahwotevaman]

I mean the level of industrial infrastructure has built up considerably since then. As soon as people do not have to be frugal out of material necessity, they aren't frugal. Conspicous consumption has always been around. It used to be the sole preserve of a tiny elite while everyone else barely subsisted, that is not so much the case today.

[Loreleila]

Sure, thats true. But there is also something rather more insidious which wasn't present in the past. The pressure from the media and business to keep buying for no reason whatsoever. The church of retail is thriving, even in times of recession. People go shopping because they have nothing better to do. They are pressured into believing they need the latest whatever, which always has built in obsolescence.

[withnielandi]

Good point. The media say's buy, buy, buy our pretty material things to make the econamy big and strong again but be careful because you are killing the planet with you're mass consumption. We have become all but corporate currency on the globalist production line, told what to think, told what to do, whats right and whats wrong, while liveing with an illusion of fear. Why can't they let us be human's and not sheep!

[Loreleila]

Exactly. Maybe we need to stop allowing them to treat us like sheep and make our own choices, see beyond their smoke and mirrors.

[withnielandi]

I agree, I try to tell family and friends this but sometimes I feel like im speaking to the deaf and blind. I don't read newspapers and laugh at the propaganda on mainstream tv, I do feel though that the tables are turning and people are waking up to it. It's a shame we don't have a John Lennon of the modern world

[Loreleila]

I think we each have to be our own John Lennon.

[popebenadict16]

a total ban on christmas lights would be a good first step.

[Loreleila]

That's an excellent idea. I'm sure there would be a good reason to stop the creation of all the pointless rubbish people buy over Christmas as well. The unwanted and meaningless 'gifts' must use untold amounts of resources to produce.

[czarwright]

its a joke to get the people to pay for what companies have done to this earth.

Global warming is a fact but we have little effect on it.

We do need to go green but not in the way of controlling it. the impact should be funded by Oil , coal companies to start with high taxes to fund it. Less control on new ways of making energy as long as they hurt the environment.

Wind, solar, geothermal.

[czarwright]

@czarwright 2nd part, All lights should be L.E.D's not mercury gas bulbs that are seen as green. We are just slow in keeping up with the flow of things. some see only how to make us pay for our laziness. is a big problem.

Peace =)

[Loreleila]

Basically we should just use our common sense. it's not rocket science. A bit of care and consideration. We wouldn't expect to eat all the food in our house and have it replenish itself all on its own, so why do we expect the planet to do so?

[WAHsu]

Your video show exactly what happens when we corrupt ourselves.... Sol sweats us out! ;)

[Loreleila]

Indeed.

[womblefree]

People are naturally lazy/greedy and will defer any improvements until its to late, the idea our grandparents were naturally green is true but its going to take a big shove to get people thinking like that again and whoever initiates it is going to be very unpopular, at least in the short term and may even be lynched.

[popebenadict16]

they would be in blackpool,i know ill make sure i turn the comp standby,of before i go to bed im sure that will help.

[Loreleila]

You could be right. Asking people to change their lifestyle and self indulgent greed is not going to go down well.

[ReliableInsider]

My mom had a request when I was eight and I think it's really the final word on the matter, God rest her incomparable soul.

She said clean up your room.

[Loreleila]

I bet you didn't do it.

[grumpychuck]

I agree in that it doesn't take a genius to see that burning fossil fuels releases "toxins" faster than the earth can scrub them, polluting fresh water faster than the earth can replenish, and generally thinking the earth is for our taking has a poisoning effect.

I think people who live in denial of this have their own agenda for refusing to do anything about the state of ecological affairs.

Really good video!

[Loreleila]

I agree with you chuck. And thanks :)

[Projoiner1]

We won't "buy our way out" of the current environmental issues.

Consumerism and over consumption are precisely what got us here.

It will take a mind shift to understanding that we aren't what we own, or how much we can purchase, but, how little impact we leave around us, how resource lite we are able to survive, how local do we choose to use.

There are a lot of issues around us today, but taking care of our home planet has to be one of the top priorities.

Every little step helps ....

[Loreleila]

I totally agree. Well said.

[hellavadeal]

I remember when the patomic river caught on fire. It is now one of the cleanist rivers . Yes we should do things to stop polluting but Governments are not the answer. Most green tech causes more polution because of rare earth elements needed . China is the largest producer of them , They will not stop . The air is cleaner than when I was young , except for chem-trails spraid by the government.

Global warming was from the sun. Co2 is what plants eat. Plant more trees.

Fight global eleatists.

[Loreleila]

You make an important point. Green technology is not always what it might appear. Planting trees would do far more good. I've never felt relying on others (government or any other 'expert') is a wise course of action.

[ReliableInsider]

en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on­_climate_change

The scientific consensus is clear. And any scientist who speaks against the consensus of the scientific community is speaking against the consensus of the scientific community.

That's just how science works.

It's sort of democratic.

[Loreleila]

Democracy does not reality make.

[lapislazuline]

now,Loreleilaah...you,re probably to young to remember but back in the early seventies the "scientists" were telling us we were on the brink of another ice-age

and nobody really gave a hoot and so now they,re trying the other tack and the politicians have got into bed with them and they tell us to "reduce our carbon footprints" but in the same breath they say we need higher year on year growth to save the economy....so it,s business as usual

[Loreleila]

Too young. I wish. lol But I agree, we've had a turnaround and many are too young to even know that. We need to think for ourselves and stop swallowing all we're fed whole.

[lilithinfidelpoet]

I agree. I think that the current debate about whether human beings are responsible for global warming or not and whether it is being used for a political advantage or not should not deter from the need to become more enviromentally conscious. There are so many differant issues at play; pollution in river and seas deforrestation and the fact that we are consuming the earths resources at alarming rates are all issues which we as humans have to get our acts together on. Great video.

[Loreleila]

Well said, and thanks.

[F00dTube]

I'm not sure what you've just said, but I personally am more worried about the degeneration of the quality of our global environment than global warming.

[Loreleila]

I basically said what you have here.

[ReliableInsider]

We're on this rock, hurtling through space. If we destroy the biosphere we all die.

The earth is a tiny elevator and we're trapped in it forever. So no cigars. Dems da breaks.

[Loreleila]

We seem to be on self destruct one way or another. Even the claims of how to stop it are often destructive and we don't even see it.

[Mrwrinkleintime]

... I suppose that if people lived 200 years or more they would have more respect for their good earth being as how they would see the damages done... :) ...

[Loreleila]

I'm not sure. It seems humans are very good at thinking only of the moment. In some respects that a good thing, and in others potentially disasterous.

[Boucrate]

Most people don't give a damn, they want their pleasure and confort at all price, they will enslave Nature as Human to satisfy themself!..Talk about insecure! In that context inner peace seem's more essential. People are scare and trying to old on to anything even if it kill's it.

Yea the question is not how to save the world, but more how not to destroy it.

But hey bliss is ignorance.

We knew, know, but few still really care.

It's not clear cause it's just getting to obvious. Very cool!

[Loreleila]

'the question is not how to save the world, but more how not to destroy it'

Just so.

[ozjthomas]

Makes sense to me, too. I think there is a lot we still don't know about how the planet works, all of the connections and what the impact of our drilling, deforestation, pollution, etc will be.

[Loreleila]

Indeed. It's funny how we can pick and choose what spin we find acceptable, but common sense would have us take care.

[philipsmovies]

Interesting Cathy. Thank you. Personally, if you can find one scientist to agree that Global Warming is currently affecting the climate, i can find 99 scientists who will disagree. On the BBC they hardly mention Global Warming(preferring the phrase Climate Change) meanwhile Sky News still refers to Global Warming regularly.

[ReliableInsider]

philipsmovies,

No.

If you can find 99 individual scientists who are global climate change deniers, I can find 99 scientific -academies- reassuring them that it is not.

Global warming and global climate change are two names for the same thing. Global warming leads to changes in the climate across the globe, global climate change.

Don't listen to Sky News. It's just crap from Rupert Murdoch that no one takes seriously.

Shame on the oil industry for valuing profit over human life.

[philipsmovies]

ReliableInsider

What i am saying is 99 global warming denyers.On Global Warming: there is no scientific proof it is currently effecting climate change. Global Warming is just a load of balonie mouthed by Politicians.

[yeahwotevaman]

philipsmovies, that is such a load of bullshit.

Global warming is an established fact.

[Loreleila]

I've sent you a lonk to a video you might find interesting because I can't here, but for anyone else, Google 'The great global warming swindle'. It's not as cut and dried as it might seem.

[Serge165]

What exactly is a lonk? The lonk in the morning she rises off her nest~

[Loreleila]

lol! Good grief my typing is dreadful. :P

[philipsmovies]

yeahwotevaman What are you trying to sell, and what are you trying to hide?

[yeahwotevaman]

@philipsmovies:

I own millions of dollars of equity shares in evil corporations producing solar panels and low-energy lightbulbs. I am trying to hide the fact that I am a mid-ranking illuminati freemason and chief teaboy for the Elders of Zion.

[philipsmovies]

yeahwotevaman

How can anyone take you seriously after that ludicrous statement?

[Loreleila]

You're making a pretty good job of hiding it. Well, until now. lol

[ReliableInsider]

phil,

Remove spaces from the URL and then read the entire article. I found it pretty convincing.

en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on _climate_change

Oil company executives and their employees in parliament and the hack scientists they dig up are never going to tell the truth. And neither are tobacco company executives.

[Loreleila]

I think we need to keep a sensible head on our shoulders, be discerning, value our home and be careful with resources, but not simply because we're fed propaganda, whatever it is.

[philipsmovies]

I think you are right Cathy, good advice.

[imthoughtlessforever]

I was thinking the same thing the other day.

It doesn't matter even if Global Warming is happening or not. We are still destroying the Planet, there is no doubt about that and if we are to survive on this Planet for another 1000 year, we need renewable energy & think differently to how we use it. So far we have had a 'free for all' idea.

[Loreleila]

Exactly.