@rjhowie, are you telling me that the crap cranked out by Hollywood is not propaganda of some sort? It upholds or puts down lifestyles, attitudes, etc. Afterall, studios are moneymaking industries. I don't mind that Eisenstein's work is called propaganda, but don't make a mockery of us all by not including all types of art, film, literature out there. Plus, the montage on it's own merit is one of the fundamental techniques developed by Eisenstein.
Particularmente me parece una gran obra, a la altura del Acorazado Potemkin. La fotografía es magnífica, al igual que el montaje. Excelente para ser la opera prima de Eisenstein.
@dsaltuari In fact (it's my bad habit to answer questions I wasn't asked), the original music is very stock. It's not to humiliate the musician, because it was what Eisenstein needed. His position that "the music should serve the film, not vice versa" led to it, so when the film needed, for example, tense music, there was a set of trite devises of "tense music" there.
@dsaltuari If the music was somewhat special, the viewer would _hear_ it, and Eisenstein didn't want him to hear the music, he wanted him just to feel tension. I don't think he would accept the modern one. For example, I sometimes play this film and don't even watch it, just listening to the music, and I fear it's not what the director desired :)
I never understood how Battleship Potemkin is considered Eisenstein's masterpiece but Strike is hardly ever talked about. Sure, Potemkin is a very good film, but for me Strike is easily his best film
It's amazing to think that this was made by a guy that was only like 26 or 27 years old 83 years ago. Oh, and the over-the-top caricature of a capitalist at the beginning always makes me laugh.
I think that strike is a masterpiece as well. Though I have to say that with Potemkin he reached a higher level of maturity in his art. Strike is an excellent example of Eisenstein's theory put inot practice but I believe that he honed on these theories and expanded them while also improving them.
PS it's also incorrect to compare the Soviets to the Nazis--that kind of simplistic reduction of history is dangerous and foolish. Not to mention the insult you make to the memory of the millions of Russians who died fighting fascism. Again, you don't have to agree with the ideology, just get the facts straight.
For rjhowie, it is ignorant to call this film propaganda. You could compare Eisenstein's work with that of Soviet propaganda films and you will see the difference--on the one hand simplified stories devoid of conflict, complexity or reality--while in Eisenstein you have all of those things and more. You don't have to agree with his politics to recognize his brillance as a film maker.
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I don't know why this should blow your mind. It,e like Potemkin was an over the top propaganda stuff. Barely a fw years later the Nazis were doing similar and probably better than the Reds. So bearing in mind it was mind control by a vile dictatorship they were just as capable of producing proagand as today. After all such stuff hardly started yesterday!
What a brilliant introduction to a film, especially the reverse shot of the conspiring workers in the mud water - brilliant. New score is also interesting.
i love the soundtrack to this video. i loved since 2007
cover821 6 months ago
@rjhowie, are you telling me that the crap cranked out by Hollywood is not propaganda of some sort? It upholds or puts down lifestyles, attitudes, etc. Afterall, studios are moneymaking industries. I don't mind that Eisenstein's work is called propaganda, but don't make a mockery of us all by not including all types of art, film, literature out there. Plus, the montage on it's own merit is one of the fundamental techniques developed by Eisenstein.
misanegra 1 year ago
raccolgo materiale storico.
dorapezzilli 1 year ago
Particularmente me parece una gran obra, a la altura del Acorazado Potemkin. La fotografía es magnífica, al igual que el montaje. Excelente para ser la opera prima de Eisenstein.
LuciaFaler 2 years ago
Way ahead of his time... Or just simply different from a cultural standpoint...
cm2dude 2 years ago
Someone knows who writes the music to this video? And is it the original one? It's sounds a little to modern
dsaltuari 2 years ago
@dsaltuari No, i's not original, and I like it WAAAY more than the original one.
Unfortunately I forgot who wrote it, it's some Western band known specifically for writing music to different silent films.
ComradeA 1 year ago
@dsaltuari In fact (it's my bad habit to answer questions I wasn't asked), the original music is very stock. It's not to humiliate the musician, because it was what Eisenstein needed. His position that "the music should serve the film, not vice versa" led to it, so when the film needed, for example, tense music, there was a set of trite devises of "tense music" there.
ComradeA 1 year ago
@dsaltuari If the music was somewhat special, the viewer would _hear_ it, and Eisenstein didn't want him to hear the music, he wanted him just to feel tension. I don't think he would accept the modern one. For example, I sometimes play this film and don't even watch it, just listening to the music, and I fear it's not what the director desired :)
ComradeA 1 year ago
Great movies !
HK379 2 years ago
I never understood how Battleship Potemkin is considered Eisenstein's masterpiece but Strike is hardly ever talked about. Sure, Potemkin is a very good film, but for me Strike is easily his best film
It's amazing to think that this was made by a guy that was only like 26 or 27 years old 83 years ago. Oh, and the over-the-top caricature of a capitalist at the beginning always makes me laugh.
erikbitesdog 3 years ago 4
Totally true.
How anyone can overlook this masterpiece is beyond me.
xcherryflavoredx 3 years ago
I think that strike is a masterpiece as well. Though I have to say that with Potemkin he reached a higher level of maturity in his art. Strike is an excellent example of Eisenstein's theory put inot practice but I believe that he honed on these theories and expanded them while also improving them.
filmfanatic99 3 years ago
Long live proletarian art!
Proletcultism rocks
ComradeFlorian 3 years ago
I wonder if I could persuade you to submit a video on one of the 1001 films you must see before you die. Join the Group and add. Thanks.
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matthiasheuermann 3 years ago
PS it's also incorrect to compare the Soviets to the Nazis--that kind of simplistic reduction of history is dangerous and foolish. Not to mention the insult you make to the memory of the millions of Russians who died fighting fascism. Again, you don't have to agree with the ideology, just get the facts straight.
mfwettlaufer 4 years ago 14
For rjhowie, it is ignorant to call this film propaganda. You could compare Eisenstein's work with that of Soviet propaganda films and you will see the difference--on the one hand simplified stories devoid of conflict, complexity or reality--while in Eisenstein you have all of those things and more. You don't have to agree with his politics to recognize his brillance as a film maker.
mfwettlaufer 4 years ago 2
we saw this today...thx for posting!
nanioushka 4 years ago
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I don't know why this should blow your mind. It,e like Potemkin was an over the top propaganda stuff. Barely a fw years later the Nazis were doing similar and probably better than the Reds. So bearing in mind it was mind control by a vile dictatorship they were just as capable of producing proagand as today. After all such stuff hardly started yesterday!
rjhowie 4 years ago
cinematically speaking, this should blow your mind, no matter the political background
muziekfreakske 4 years ago 2
Pure genius! The fact that this film was made in 1925 just blows my mind!!!!!!
ZahirOsman 4 years ago 6
What a brilliant introduction to a film, especially the reverse shot of the conspiring workers in the mud water - brilliant. New score is also interesting.
Yurasik 4 years ago 2
Cinema Mon Amour
Part I watch?v=wzX7mstqCaM
Part II watch?v=6zmAeO8vHjY
GodardVertov 4 years ago
Is this the original score for this piece?
mrw7871 4 years ago
I have no idea where you get this, but thanks a lot!!!
Benishe 4 years ago