Richard Gage conference with Montreal 9/11 Truth

[mikeyt34]

911 Truth....R.I.P. It's ova.

[Seigu007]

@mikeyt34 idiot stfu. Thank you for revealing yourself as tool.

[mikeyt34]

Do your own research outside of conspiracy websites. Go to sites that can give you the other side of the story so you can have all the information. Richard Gage is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman, con artist, and is bilking good people out of their money. Non of his claims are trustworthy, you have to look for yourself. No peer reviewed papers by any of his collugues. They say they do but look up who the peer reviews came from they are not credible. No evidence, none.

[mikeyt34]

Twoofers are morons.

[sssssjjjj1]

johnathon kay, another evil joo. Look up the 5 dancing israelis who were in a van with murals on both sides of the van with nyc skyline and twin towers with jumbo jet crashing, exploding into the twin towers. This is fact. It shows the unedited nyc police dispatch recording records of the actual cop that pulled up on the van. He describes the mural over the radio. The 5 jews take a polygraph and fail it. LIsten idiots. Before you call me antisemetic look up the record. They will hang.

[111RobinHood]

If you listen to Gerald Celente on his expert views concerning how the banks, Wall Street, the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex, the agricultural complex, the economic complex are all corrupt and run by men who have no scruples whatsoever and are deliberatley ruining America, well, then it isn't too much a stretch of the imagination to believe that the 9/11 commission report, NIST are also corrupt. Gerald Celente knows that the government is run by corrupt mafia-like men.

[Matty14388]

omg that was the most craziest q and a i've ever seen, awesome!

[multard]

I have to say (as a disbeliever of the official story), the hostility aimed at the gentleman who asked questions at about 20 minutes was very unnecessary. The attitude of the truth movement should never be hostile; it undermines the scientific nature of its efforts.

[themacx]

"(as if simulated drowning is torture! HA!)"

well send over your mother (if you have one) and ill try it on her.. and see if you still think it's funny.. you're sick!

[unclesamsnephew666]

so since I don't think simulated drowning is torture, you want to bring up mothers? is that what a pathetic child you are? looks like yours failed in raising you, cunt.

[themacx]

look who's talking... oh wait.. i mean having an oral shit.

[unclesamsnephew666]

here's an open question for truthers "pull it"

Can any of you true believers explain what happened at WTC7 on 9/11 in the time between Larry saying the words "pull it" and the building collapsing?

Details, who did what, what was done...that is what I am looking for. I assume what you think he meant, so don't try that swerve. I also know the big picture of what you think he meant, that it was an order to demolish, do don't try that swerve either.

Let's see details on actions taken.

[Burnside69x]

No, and nobody can fully explain what happened in regards to this part of the story because not all the evidence is there... that's probably why WE'RE ASKING FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION.

[unclesamsnephew666]

so many people in the the truth movement are 100% POSITIVE that Larry revealed something by saying "pull it" but despite the certainty, you cannot even say what you think might have happened in between Larry saying "pull it" and the collapse.

can you see why that looks like selective theorizing?

[Burnside69x]

I can say what I THINK happened for this, but you'll only spin it; you're not really interested in discussion the finer points of this story, you're only here to troll, as per your previous insulting comments. I don't mind discussing 9/11 with people who believe the official story - in fact, I welcome it, but I won't waste my time with close-minded people, and that goes for both sides of the coin, whether they are groupies of David Frum, Alex Jones, Perry Logan, Michael Savage or J. Garofalo.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I can say what I THINK happened for this"

yes, that's what I want you to do. tell me what you think happened.

anyone can then spin it, but what would that be worth? I am looking for what YOU think happened.

[themacx]

dude.. go to 911truth. co m and find out... you are being an asshole right now... who do YOU think YOU are mate? just post a PEER REVIEWED PAPER AND WE WILL LISTEN. otherwise go away... and find the truth.... and then come back.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"go to 911truth. co m and find out"

been there, laughed hysterically at that.

it's an echo chamber and a joke. when that site admits the east penthouse exists, maybe it will rise to the level of plain stupidity and not intelligence-insulting deception.

"who do YOU think YOU are mate?"

I'm someone making you uncomfortable enough to make idiotic statements like that one.

"just post a PEER REVIEWED PAPER"

ok, as soon as you and dr. jones do. deal?

[themacx]

you seem to think it's all about dr. jones.... anyway don't you worry about me.. i'm comfortable.... 'sport'

[unclesamsnephew666]

"you seem to think it's all about dr. jones"

nah, you just want to forget he ever said he believes jesus visited america. because you know that proves what a total kook he is.

"anyway don't you worry about me.. i'm comfortable"

is that why you had to use "sport" back at me twice?

typical truther parrot.

[themacx]

wel no sport.. but since your the one with his head up his ass i'd like to be extra clear...

now for your enjoyment;

bentham.o r g/open/tocpj/openaccess2.htm

a nice peer reviewed paper for you to ignore..

have a nice day SPORT!

[unclesamsnephew666]

who knew the word "sport" would make someone so angry?

but not as angry as the fact that steven jones thinks jesus visited america. that one seems to really flip you out.

bentham.o r g/open/tocpj/openaccess2.htm -- a pay-for-access journal? is that the best steven "jesus in america" could do? sad.

[themacx]

lol angry.. no.... not me.

but where your peer reviewed paper?

remember that NIST and the 9/11 commision report aren't peer reviewed they don't count at all.

anyway your jesus in america is getting old haven't you got anything better than the slander of a ten year old? like real proof osama did it?

[unclesamsnephew666]

"angry.. no.... not me"

right.

"but where your peer reviewed paper?"

are you going to just keep repeating steven "jesus in america" jones' lame instructions on how to respond to questioning peer review, and the lack thereof regarding his idiotic theory? is that why you're so angry? not only do you believe in the "science" of a kook who thinks jesus visited america, but you also take directions from him?

"the slander of a ten year old"

just stating reality, which I'm sure you can't stand.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"like real proof osama did it?"

he confessed on video, dumbass.

now tell me you think it is fake based on one poorly-lit low quality still frame.

try watching the whole thing. get a better look than the one your fellow truthtards are deceiving you with. see his known associates in the video.

or tell me a confession doesn't cut it but a guy who thinks jesus visited america does.

[themacx]

What i'm saying is a statement on video made after the fact isn't proof HE did it in any court of law.

The torture "confession" of K.S.M. he was the one isn't legal proof.

Now you might think that osama bin laden is a bad guy but there isn't a judge who will convict him for it.

And it's the C.I.A. who said there isn't proof OBL did it.. he's NOT wanted for 911.

call me a dumbass all you like and ignore the simple facts, but you're not gonna be the one changing anybody with your BS attitude.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"a statement on video made after the fact isn't proof HE did it in any court of law"

maybe not in Truthtardville District Court, but in reality it would.

"The torture "confession" of K.S.M. he was the one isn't legal proof"

he also stated it in court when he wasn't being "tortured" (as if simulated drowning is torture! HA!)

"there isn't a judge who will convict him (OBL) for it."

maybe not in Truthtardville Superior Court, but in reality many would.

"he's NOT wanted for 911." - LOL!

[Bernadotte01]

"He confessed on video!!"

Oh yeah - I saw that video:

v=Jr5aFDfdcl4

It's awesome!

[unclesamsnephew666]

that video is a parody you fucking moron.

[Bernadotte01]

wow - is it really! Gosh, I didn't know.

The parody was certainly better quality video than your alleged "confession."

[unclesamsnephew666]

"The parody was certainly better quality video than your alleged "confession."

so let me get this straight. you STILL buy the bullshit that the confession video was a fake? you still think looking at one single poorly lit frame out of an entire video speaks for the whole video? ever see the whole thing? ever notive the other people in the video? were all his known associates CIA actors, too? or is it that you just refuse to accept the reality that he confessed?

[Bernadotte01]

So let me get this straight: you STILL buy the bullshit that the ultra-low resolution and hyper-grainy spin-laden "confession" video was authentic?

google Professor Bruce Larence, bin laden

google CNN, "Bin Laden SAYS HE WASN'T behind the attacks", September 17, 2001

google "Bin Laden Comes HOME to Roost", (his CIA ties are just the beginning of a woeful story), MSNBC, 1998

google "When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing", WashingtonPost, 1998.

It's bin nice talkin to ya.

[ToritoNL]

So you think OBL looked like that actor on that video? Then I dont think you checked anything about it. Please doubt what you're told to see. Always. I believed the official story untill I started to really investigate available info. Investigate does NOT mean: believe theories, but compare & compare and know that anything can be tricked, these days. And after all that I changed my mind: 9-11 is made possible by Saoudi patsies and CIA and FBI moles, Brzezinksky and a puppet president

[unclesamsnephew666]

not sure what video you mean, but if it is the confession video that truthers claim is a fake based on one single shitty quality image, take a look at this and see why their claims are bogus...

911myths [d0T] com/index [D0T] php/Confession_video

now read through that and tell me why anyone should believe when they are told by the known and proven liars in the truth movement that it is a fraud. I'm more than willing to listen.

[ToritoNL]

Great page, thanks 4 sharing!

My first response was made impossible, somehow. Lets try again: the man does not confess here. He only claims to have known significant details that we all knew by then. But please realise OBL being W's old oilbizz friend, being armed by the CIA to fight the Russians, and the CIA being capable of doing many horrible covert operations, invented by strategist Brzezinskys' sick mind. OBL is a patsy, like M Atta, and like LH Oswald. Watch youtube[com]watch?v=Ez1sY5g8_U­o

[unclesamsnephew666]

": the man does not confess here" - this is the confession video truthers use 1 frame from to say it isn't him.

"OBL being W's old oilbizz friend" - a ridiculous, baseless, unfounded truther rumor with nothing to back it up.

"being armed by the CIA to fight the Russians" - not him personally and it was 15+ yrs before 9/11. proves nothing.

" CIA being capable of doing many horrible covert operations" - true, but proves nothing.

that link is for the video above.

[Bernadotte01]

Find the original Nth Tower collapse video uploaded by user GlBdr at veoh.

Watch the high-speed detonations sparkle in the core, then invent some whacky explanation for the phenomena, such as a flock of flash photographers, or dozens of reflections from horizontally-aligned falling glass sheets.

Pretend that you are not seeing dozens of high-speed detonations.

- - - -

Discover the location of Lt. Col Steve O'Brien during termination of flights 77 and 93.

Call your findings "coincidence"

[unclesamsnephew666]

"high-speed detonations sparkle in the core," -- HA! HA! HA!

yeah, that's what it is. lulz.

[Bernadotte01]

I assume you couldn't find the video showing thousands of photographers clustered in the core of WTC taking flash photos as the towers fell.

Of course, a much more plausible and rational explanation for the phenomena would be high speed detonations, for they appear identical to those used during controlled demolition, and every flashing strip is aligned with core columns, to boot.

Go to veoh and check out the Nth Tower collapse video uploaded by user GlBdr.

Tell us about Lt. Col O'Brien.

[unclesamsnephew666]

are you talking about what is seen at around 50 seconds?

when the building had already collapsed?

you really believe those are...detonations?

LOL!!

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Tell us about Lt. Col O'Brien."

what can i tell you that you don't already know and whatever ridiculous conclusion you've jumped to?

it's obvious you desperately WANT to believe 9/11 was an inside job and by the looks of your page and favorite videos, you are obsessed with palestine, so I assume you believe it was all the joooooooosssssss!!!

if I am correct, you can't be helped. you're a nut.

[Bernadotte01]

Tells us where Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien of the Minessota Air National Guard was located during termination of flights 77 and 93.

After you have done so, fabricate another strawman and set it on fire for the "benefit" of the audience.

Watch the sequence of detonations flash violently in the erect core of WTC1 at seconds 7 (full-speed) and 42 (half-speed) during collapse in the video posted to VEOH by user GlBdr, then pretend the phenomena is 'reflections' from falling glass..or sumthin'

[unclesamsnephew666]

"ells us where Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien of the Minessota Air National Guard was located during termination of flights 77 and 93."

I don't know. why don't you tell me.

"the sequence of detonations flash violently in the erect core of WTC1"

LMAO!! yeah, that must be what it is.

[Bernadotte01]

Lt Col O'Brien was located in a C-130 "Electronic Warfare Aircraft":

1. Directly above and behind flight 77 for several kilometres preceding termination.

2. a few miles from flight 93 during flight termination.

3 But this is just another 911 coincidence - nothing to see here!

- - - - -

4. The dozens of high-speed detonations evident in the Nth Twr core during collapse were produced by photographers....right?

[unclesamsnephew666]

"preceding termination." and "during flight termination" -- what does that mean? he was in 2 places at once?

rather than riddles, why not say what you think happened with this guy?

"dozens of high-speed detonations" - laughable.

[Bernadotte01]

Not 2 places at once. Two places--two times--same C-130 "Naval electronic warfare aircraft."

"But how could a 757 permeate Pentagon anti-aircraft missile defense systems without a miltary escort?," you incuriously neglected to ask.

Oh...it DID have a military escort, but "that information was classified," replied a spokeman for the Pentagon. (Daily Press, Oct 17,2001)

Observing the rapid sequence of high-speed detonations evident in the video I cited didn't make me laugh.

[unclesamsnephew666]

my brother in law is a retired air force colonel. he laughs at the idea that the pentagon is the most protected airspace or building. are you aware how close the Reagan/National airport runway is to the front door of the pentagon? or do you buy into the truther lie about a 5-mile no-fly zone around it?

"Daily Press" - which one?

aluminum and glass flailing in the air and catching sunlight are not "high-speed detonations" no matter how much you want it to be. your delusions make me laugh.

[Bernadotte01]

So... all the aluminium and glass panels were aligned to exactly the same horizontal plane as they spun while falling through the smoke, glinting with the reflections of sunlight, thus producing the appearence---or illusion---that a sequence of high-speed cutting strips can be clearly seen flashing in the core?

Is that right?

And it was just another 9/11 "coincidence" that had the same "electronic warfare" C-130 present at the termination of flight 77 and 93?

Is that right too?

[fengineer08]

I guess it is another "coincidence" that those high speed cutting strips were dead silent too.

[Bernadotte01]

Actually, there was a lot of noise when the towers exploded, in case you didn't notice.

There was a much quieter demolition in Dallas a few years ago using high speed explosives. The flashes from the explosives used in Dallas were visually less evident than the flashes at WTC described above.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[fengineer08]

Yes their was a lot of noise, when the planes hit the towers! Imagine that huh?

Don't give me some example of a "quiet" demolition. The twin towers were 2 of the tallest buildings on earth, nothing would have been quiet about that.

[multard]

Again. You seem hopelessly uninformed on the issue. Explosions were heard apart from the noise resulting from the impacts. Eye-witness testimony is in fucking abundance. It's time to stop being silly.

[Bernadotte01]

Don't give me your whacky parameters for investigation.

The collapse of the WTC towers was an explosive and noisy affair,with high-speed cutters evident in several videos.

A slow burning, non-effervescent metal fire burned for at least 7 minutes at the 81st floor of the Sth tower, exuding white smoke, and followed by a close-proximity flow of brightly glowing molten iron - ALL the salient features of thermite/thermate were therefore present and evident.

Google "A kind of metal fire" for ref.

[fengineer08]

So noise is a whacky parameter for explosives? That's the same as saying heat is a whacky paramater for fire, oh wait, you idiots argue that too!

Google this youtube that blah blah blah. Go outside and learn about real life, how about that?

[Bernadotte01]

The explosive "collapse" of the towers (with pre and post collapse cutter chargers visually evident, pre-collapse metal fire in close proximity to a pre-collapse torrent of molten iron) wasn't a quiet affair--as the documentary record makes clear. Post collapse molten iron was also present, requiring the application of Pyrocool (TM).

Confirmation bias is when you don't let the facts undermine your favourite Arab-framing lie.

[fengineer08]

Really.... hmmmm.... Well if the explosions were so "evident" then why isn't their any un-questionable video/audio of them?

And since when does explosives create some huge mess of molten iron?

You should go write for Tom Clancy.

[multard]

I wish people would educate themselves on the matter before commenting on these videos. It's really getting old. No, they weren't 'silent.' Cute comment though. You might want to view the plethora of videos depicting first responders describing audible explosions on the scene. Or, if you like, you can watch the collapses for yourself and note the blast-points well blow the damaged contingents of each building.

[fengineer08]

I wish you would educate yourself too before assuming explosives were used in the buildings.

Just because personel heard explosions going off at ground zero doesn't mean they came from bombs.

I absolutely believe them, but you need to consider the equipment inside the buildings that can and will explode of you damage or burn them. This is something that "truthers" completely disregard, because you'd just rather believe in your Tom Clancy type story.

[Bernadotte01]

I thought you were trying to pretend that no explosives were heard?

In fact, you said, "Well if the explosions were so "evident" then why isn't their any un-questionable video/audio of them? "

But since there is recorded and documented audio, you must confabulate some explosive and volatile "equipment," within the buildings to "account" for it.

Did you perchance find the Nth Twr collapse at veoh, posted by GlBdr, with many detonations visible, all aligned with core columns??

[nothinglikeafender]

you go girl!!!!

[fengineer08]

???

[fengineer08]

Oh thanks I love it! Now if you could only find someone else on here who likes TAKING IT IN THE ASS, you would be golden.

[Bernadotte01]

'Horrific' Image Still Haunts Surry Woman,

Terry Scanlon, Daily Press, September 14, 2001

Hampton Roads Woman Says She Too, Saw Plane Following Jet That Hit Pentagon,

Terry Scanlon, Daily Press, September 15, 2001

C-130 Crew Saw Pentagon Strike, Official Confirms, Terry Scanlon and David Lerman DailyPress; Newport News; Oct 17, 2001

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In answer to yr question: Daily Press, Arlington.

Google for archived copies.

[pinealSolstice]

"A time comes when silence is betrayal." -MLK Jr.

Solidarity from the SF Bay Area, keep up the GREAT WORK!

9/11 Truth to end the "Global War on Terror!"

[unclesamsnephew666]

did jerkoff play with cardboard boxes in canada?

do you all know that steven jones thinks jesus visited america?

add alex jones to these two nitwits and you have the modern day 3 Stooges.

[themacx]

did you know christian believe in Jesus.. muslim believe in ALLAH and don't forget the Jews ..and so on..... so now are you counting out all those people who believe in fairytales?.. good luck with that. just keep in mind many of those believers have brilliant minds.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"so now are you counting out all those people..."

not at all. very few of those people are insane enough to think that jesus physically sailed across the sea and visited America. steven jones does. that is all I am commenting on, not every person of faith.

[themacx]

I think you got my point... he was born in a mormon family.. so naturally he addapted the faith of his parrent thats not so wierd... anyway... Jones is a scollar and not a evangelist and I don't see what science FACT has to with his personal believes. you are just trying to make people look silly when it's all about the victims of 9/11 who where killed by their own government. NOW THATS AN ISSUE! what you're talking about isn't .. So why do it?

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I think you got my point"

if your point was a lame explanation to divert attention from jones' ridiculous belief that jesus visited america, then you did.

but I doubt that was your point, so you're wrong. again. like you are about everything else.

"you are just trying to make people look silly"

HA! like truthers need help. you're doing fine on your own, sport.

"it's all about the victims"

no, at this point, its all about truthers being unable to admit they are wrong.

[themacx]

who's diverting attention from what's being said in this video?... not me..."sport"... you're the one writing claims that have nothing to do with the issue.

and believe it or not.. it IS all about the victims... if it wasn't for the family members there woul'd not be a truth movement...they started it so try and tell it to them.

[unclesamsnephew666]

the crdibility of who is presenting this information isn't an issue?

why, because it is so embarrassing?

"it IS all about the victims"

not to truthers, it isn't. it is all about living in a fantasy world of scooby-doo mystery solving and feeling important via being "in the know" while the "sheeple" are just too dim to figure it all out

"if it wasn't for the family members there woul'd not be a truth movement"

thierry meyssan and the loose change liars would disagree with you.

[EskolainenKarma]

It seems to me that Kay is searching his soul right now, but he's having a hard time from both sides. Agression is not required. I don't think he really know what kind of machine he is part of. He is exposing himself to the arguments, and I give him credit for that.

Right now he is bringing the message of the mainstream to the people. I think he will find out that it should be the other way round.

Let's hope for a book called: Why i changed my mind about the 911 truth movement by Jonathan Kay

[Burnside69x]

Are you one of those that consider hard scientific facts and evidence to be a threat to your particular world-view? If so, you might want to try watching something less intellectually-intense, like infomercials or White House speeches.

[unclesamsnephew666]

you consider his cardboard box routine "hard scientific facts and evidence"?

are you one of those people who have an expectation of predictability of a 100% unprecedented event that includes unknowable factors?

also, do you find steven "jesus visited america" jones to be a credible source for...anything?

[123dool]

Here is a fact: we are increasing and you and your fellows are declining. And maybe the biggest difference between me and you is that I am an honored volunteer while you are nothing but a damned paid shill.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Here is a fact: we are increasing and you and your fellows are declining."

how sad that you really believe that nonsense.

here's a REAL fact (on that keeps getting so many thumbs down...I wonder why?)

steven jones thinks jesus visited america.

"...you are nothing but a damned paid shill."

can you explain how much of a paranoid nut you have to be to actually believe people are paid to stop you losers from shitting on 3000 graves?

[themacx]

just send in a PEER reviewed paper of YOUR viewpoint and we will concider your thoughts...

[unclesamsnephew666]

"just send in a PEER reviewed paper of YOUR viewpoint and we will concider your thoughts.."

oooh, ZINGER!

whine all you like, make lame comments all you like. the fact is the steven jones thermite paper was NOT peer reviewed.

it seems as if you don't know what the term means in the context of scientific research. look it up. do some research.

[themacx]

clearly YOU don't know what you're talking about.... but ok mate.. dream on.

here's what you need.

911blogger.c o m /node/19780

[unclesamsnephew666]

"clearly YOU don't know what you're talking about," said the truthtard who is so upset that I am letting people know that gage is a clown and jones not only believes jesus visited america but also comes up with the response that I should post a peer reviewed paper even though he and dr. jones have not done the same because the truthhtard thinks that makes sense and is a reasonable response to a fact that makes him want to cry and gobble up a jar of mayonnaise for comfort.

truthtards!

[BudhistPanda]

Good job Patrick Byron and the Montreal 911 truth movement, keep it up :) Spread the truth - 911 was an inside job !!!

Im a subscriber of a new investigation in Denmark, We stand forward with our full name and picture, when we sign. 274 danes now stand forward and demand a new investigation. Dr. Niels Harrit also signed, and together with 8 other scientists, they published their journal on the 4th of April 09, putting out scientific proof of explosives in the dust from WTC

[mikejamesbaldwin]

Nice job Montreal! Greetings from SF Bay Area Truthers. This guy Kay is either a real idiot, or as bought as Chomsky. Then again, what's new concerning the MSM? Nice video.

[Lightfoot24]

Great work people! I hope Richard gage comes to Australia, he is top notch.

[manwello15]

Way to go Mtl911truth, it's great to see Mr. Gage up here, thanks for bringing him to Canada.

[manwello15]

....again.

[ottawafro]

Wicked job Pat on the video! Was a great event and good seeing you guys again. Keep it up.