Kobe 61 Lebron 52

[AsteriskTripleDouble]

No triple double ass-face.

Spike, suck a dick.. your beloved Bernard King record got shitted on!

Kobe= MVP MVP MVP

[akuonye]

lebron is better

[Rodzilla97]

Lebron played the better game, easily. 52-10-11! unheard of. that is BONKERS

i think he'll get over 61 there sometime

[samdaman92]

i agree lebron definitly played better than lebron at msg

[Arenas90]

read ur comment over before u post it.

and LeBron is so much more complete and better than Kobe.

[dubasher]

LeBron's performance was clearly more dominant: 61/0/3 vs. 52/10/11? c'mon now.

[gooseCha]

there are 3 types of lies.

regular lies

damn lies

and STATS

Kobe is the better player

[smoothhoopinal]

Kenny smith quote huh? Stats are no lie, no matter what Kenny said. There is a reason why only Larry Bird and Michael Jordan were in the company of Lebron's MSG performance. Kenny could do no where near what Lebron or Kobe did.

[gooseCha]

Thank you for your input. Both amazing players but i just get upset that everyone wants to give Lebron 100 percent legitimacy when he (in my opinion) hasnt earned it. He has amazing ability and potential. Raw power hight and smarts. but come on I myself hate Kobe but i just Fucking respect the guy not because he is amazing but because he has earned it by his stellar performances over 11 years. the most clutch player i have ever watched play. _from a Suns fan who has felt kobe's daggers.

[dubasher]

everyone saw during the Olympics that LeBron is the most complete and dominant player on the planet now. even kobe knows it, you could see it in his face.

[gooseCha]

ur a fuckin douch if your going to use the olympics to try to prove that Labron is better then kobe. Tell me this. in Crunch time, when it mattered most, who got the ball? Kobe. End of story. listen to all the commentators read all the magazines.WATCH THE FUCKING OLYMPICS they are posted all over Youtube. do some homework. KOBE GOT THE BALL. LABRON GAVE THE BALL TO KOBE TO WIN IT. (you see it in his face) get out of here with that

[smoothhoopinal]

Robert Horry, throughout his career was very, very Clutch, but he's not better than all else in the league, so what's your point really?

[gooseCha]

What a rediculous comparison. Robert Horry, Really?

during his career did he ever do what kobe has?

25.1pts a game,5ast,5rbs. On top of being Clutch?

have some logic.

my argument is not that kobe is clutch therefore makes him the best. He is the best and shows up in the most important moments of games. On top of which i have not mentioned he is one of the best defensive players in the leauge. Lebron is not clutch and doesn't have the mentality that kobe does. He admited it himself.

[smoothhoopinal]

I've admitted it myself that Lebron doesn't have Kobe, nor Wade's mentality. Kobe may be more clutch, but Cleveland wouldn't be where they are without the play of James. His talent cannot be overlooked. James was very clutch in the Boston series last year, esp in Game 6.

[gooseCha]

i just find it funny how you only have one series (Boston) and one clutch game (6) to define Lebrons career.

but if name Kobe's my "remaining character count" would run out.

Thats what im talking about!! When you say "Kobe's not just as all around", what does that mean??? i always read that comment but never get specifics. Ive already established that Kobe is a better scorer and defender and YOU agreed.

so lets just leave it at that. Or just reread my other posts because ive made my point.

[smoothhoopinal]

Oh, no, I'm not saying Lebron's as clutch as Kobe, but I am saying Lebron has shown to be clutch. I don't know if you remember him against Detroit the year he went to the finals. He was extremely clutch in some of the battles with the Wizards when they had a healthy Arenas. He totally destroyed Portland one year when someone pissed him off. He hit like 4 threes, including the game winning one. He hit a clutch jumper with your boy Kobe guarding him to beat the Lakers. Kobe got his this year...

[gooseCha]

well its interesting because they play this morning so its going to be a great match up. thx for keeping the convo respectful i respect your input

[smoothhoopinal]

Kewl, it's been one of the more friendly debates I've had with A Kobe fan. There's a guy at work, that's alllllll Kobe and everyone in our facility knows about our debates. Well, I told him if the Lakers get this one in Cleveland, and Kobe literally outplays Lebron, then I must shut up all year about Lebrons, and I have to get a kb24 jersey and wear it, which is not all bad cuz I like Kobe too.

[dubasher]

Kobe is a more "polished" offensive player. Other than that, LeBron is CLEARLY a better and more DOMINANT all-around player. Most knowledgeable basketball analysts have been saying this for a while now. Additionally, 80% of people polled said LeBron's performance was better. I'll take hundreds of thousands of people's opinion over yours, DOUCHE.

[gooseCha]

how about you cite your sources you dip shit. yeah anyone can say 80% of people say this and that. ur pulling shit out of ur ass.

ok so you admit Kobe is a more "polished" offensive player but you say this like Lebron has better "D". tell me this how many 1st team defensive nominations has James recieved?

so now that we've established kobe is better offensively and that the leauge sees him as one of the best defensive players...Where does this leave Lebron??...DOUCHE.

[smoothhoopinal]

Yeah, I think Kobe is the better face to face defender, but he can't send the shots into the stands like James can. Kobe is the better offensive threat, but as far as all the things done on the court across the board, LEBRON does it all. Kobe does it all, but not as much across the board.

[gooseCha]

"i think Kobe is a better face to face defender...Kobe is the better offensive threat...Kobe does it all"

ok now that we have established all of this, let me get to my point

Kobe has been doing it all for 11 years, Lebron 5.

Kobe has Championship experience. Lebron 0

This is why i can hate kobe But respect the mans game.(EARNED)

I cant say the same for James.

James has all the physical ability a bball player could want; he will do great things, but he hasn't (yet). Kobe has conquered all

[smoothhoopinal]

Well, I've respected Kobe's game since he was at Lower Marion high school. I've watched him develope. Kobe does have Championship experience, but that does not mean Lebron is any less of a player. Lebron took a team, that had NO BUSINESS being in the finals, but HE'S THAT GOOD. Kobe was part of one of the most deadliest 1,2 punches ever. To even begin to think Lebron couldn't have done the same with Shaq would be comical. Kobe is very good, and will probably get a ring with this team....

[smoothhoopinal]

He'll probably get a ring with this team, but, he couldn't take Cleveland to a ring. Yes, he could outscore Lebron all day long, but as far as impact on a franchise that sucked the way Cleveland did before James, Kobe could not do. All he would do at Cleveland is average about 35 to 40ppg. Kobe's not just as all around. One thing Kobe hasn't conquered yet, which he might do this year is win a ring without O'neal, but he still got a freebee with the Memphis trade. Give Lebron a freebee, i say

[smoothhoopinal]

What more could a player do to earn the hype? Honestly, have you been watching the last 5 years??? Is it a ring? That's built with a TEAM, usually with a superstar like James on it.