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  • absoloute rubbish- it didn't blend

  • it is true

    

  • Is this true? No, no it's not.

    This is a room full of people who believe they will be thrown back when he gives the cue..... So that is what happens... Just what they expected.

    Try it with a room full of people who aren't mind-fucked and the result is laughter.

  • Not sure if this particular one is true. But it IS possible and they really would jump as quite correctly explained @OakIslandBandit

  • false

  • Bullshit. 

  • no its not true:)

  • استخفاف بى العقول

  • Absolutely fake.

  • no fake, yi chuan is the real deal. don't believe it? try it.

  • No

  • hahahaaa..........FAKE

    

  • no.

  • sorry, but person which titled this "magic-bullshit show" - Yiquan, should burn in hell. Because YIQUAN is a system based on intelectual and scientific approach. Idea of Chi energy is skipped in it. It's based on energy which can be emitted from muscles and bones, without magic-bullshit sheath...

    please do not mislead people. If anyone want to find out more about real yiquan and it's applications, just type "Andrzej Kalisz" on YT.

    peace

  • хуйня

  • wahahahah

  • continued...that master can induce the same chi reaction in anyone. This reaction is no different than scaring someone. When you sneek up and scare another, you cause a much larger amount of energy to flow up the spine. That person doesn't run away first...he jumps, or his spine straightens out. In the master's case, the reaction created is the same as running electricity through the winding of a transformer. You induce electrical flow.

    I can't vouch for this demo, but the reaction is true.

  • Last year i met a master that showedme this hability.

    i still don't know if it was fear or real power. I didn't jump, but while he was concentrating i kind of feeled paralysis. then he shouted really lodly and i was flying across the tatami

  • Super Sayian?

  • 老趙,你都要死了,還學什麼六點半?

  • fake...wtf? lol

  • what is this i dont even.

  • he went into super asian 2....

  • No. Next question please.

  • PIECE OF CRAP, STINKING UP MY INTERNET!

  • Yeah, ok Lonesomesundown, when some scumbag is coming at you with bad intentions you use your fascia to throw him off with your magical forces, i'll use mine to run, meet you for a drink afterwards.

  • This is a demonstration, not a fight. It looks fake in the way the students jump backwards. Yet good tai chi training teaches them to maintain their center of balance. When Fung sharply expands and sends a jolt through them they move to retain their center. An untrained person would stumble backwards. You can see how he pumps the force with his legs. This is good tai chi. To greatly simplify, he is hitting them with power from his legs, the force transmitted through his fascia.

  • @Lonesomesundown Define jolt. You keep saying jolt, which implies something electrical. You also say "through them", which again implies he's sending an electric current through them. That's impossible. This video does not show that. Just like my backflip example wouldn't show why I did a backflip.

    Your explanations are terrible. He's hitting them with power from his legs? Power? What kind of power? Force transmitted thorugh the fascia?

    You're just using buzzwords without explaining anything.

  • What's that I hear..... my Bullshit meter going off!! This is just stupid and NOT REAL!!

  • at some age u have to stop smoking pot...lol

  • Of course, this is just another example of trainee compliance involving a version of ideomotor movement used by guys such as Derren Brown to find hidden objects. It is not fake but it is not real! it would not work if you put five MMA guys in their place - that would be funny. all the knowledge is out there. The top Yiquan practitioners always said that chi is not relevant to fighting! There is NOT One controlled experiment demonstrating force at a distance (eg. magician to monitor)

  • to fucking short !!

  • My friend spent 1 year in Taiwan learning chi kung. There are two kinds of chi kung, health and fighting. Both are different. Fighting has 18 levels. He learned up to level 5 which is good enough for tournament according to his sifu. As you past level 10, your life becomes more dedicated to your sifu. Its awesome what he learned. Very powerful. I've known my friend for over 25 years. So is this video real? To him he would say B.S. and I agree with him.  Useless in a fight.

  • @skwsith So you feel comfortable commenting without any knowledge of your own. And your friend has one whole year of experience!? When he has 25 or 30 years of experience then he may know enough to comment. The fact that he thinks this is useless shows he is NOT very knowledgeable. I have first-hand experience and this type of power can be used in fighting. I suggest it is better for you to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

  • @Lonesomesundown You're probably just a Haole.

  • @skwsith Exactly - a haole. With 40 years of experience practicing martial arts. So I don't need to call anyone names to make my point.

  • @Lonesomesundown Haole is an actual legit word. So its not name calling.

  • Sure it's real it's yi chuan

  • Totally realt ... and you can learn this skill for only 3 easy payments of $19.95

  • BULL SHIT

  • my ars !!!

  • Real. I was a non-compliant participant in such a demo and I flew back just like these guys did. Study internal martial arts if you want to know figure out how this is done.

  • What a sneeze!

  • Not to be a jerk...but what do you mean by, real? ....You see the video... it happened, it's real....it wasn't "photo-shoped"...but if you are asking if one person has "magic skills" to just touch another and have them "fly" backwards?...Well, not unless they're touching them with a TASER.

  • Best answer!

  • Thank you Sir/Madam....BTW....some of the vids on your site are hilarious....."this is karate"...killed me!.....now THAT is true!.....be well.

  • :) The "This is Karate" sketches are from a UK Comedy Sketch show called 'Blunder'.

    BTW: I am a "sir" and have no plans to change, probably.

    All the best!

  • No its not true. These demo's are always only performed on the 'masters' student because a huge amount of compliance is needed. Its make belive Bullshit and it only damages the integrity of genuine traditional martial arts.

  • why is it not true?

  • Why do you think demos like this are only ever performed on their own students? its because a huge amount of compliance is needed.

    Show me a single video of this kind of thing being demonstrated on a non compliant opponent.

  • there was.. a "Master" claimed to pull his entire class based on his chi.. and also throwing them off as shown here (But more dramatic..) He used to do this twirling method with his hands making it look like he grabbed the spirit of his opponent and they become paralyzed. He tried that shit in a martial arts tourney against a 19 year old black belt taekwondo guy. 1 kick to the nose the 55 year old master was down, begging not to be hit again! lol.. He never faught after that shit.

  • I saw the old man making his students dance and then saw the fight where the MMA guy took him out. The old guy probably believed he had super powers because his students cooperated. The MMA guy was being very respectful - didn't want to hurt the old 'master', but the old guy deserved to get popped. Non-contact projection of chi is bogus as far as I can tell. What this video shows is real.  I know how this is done, although I cannot do it myself.

  • @Lonesomesundown I don't quite understand where your coming from.

  • @Neji041 I agree with your comment below. My comments were not clear: I was answering @ukhan491. He mentioned another video of non-contact chi projection. Many who have never experienced the force demonstrated here think this is fake. They need to visit a tai chi master and they will then understand that this is not fake. However, I think most people who post negative comments are trolls who do not practice martial arts at all. Probably best to ignore them.

  • @Lonesomesundown well said.

  • @Lonesomesundown It is fake. There is no "force" causing people to jump away from this guy. If he could make you jump back just by touching you, then you could do an experiment to prove it's fake.

    Have several people touch one person one at a time. Have that person turned facing away from them, so he can't see who touches him. And when that old guy touches him, he will suddenly jump forward, even though he didn't do it when all the other people touched him. Don't need to do it though, it's fake.

  • @ninjajesus81 OK, you don't understand it. I've used this force in sparring and lifted a 250 lb (I'm 190), unwilling opponent completely off the ground and 2 feet backward. The force is not magic. If you are a martial artist you may have it too, to some extent. I used the same force playing football, long before practicing tai chi. So it can develop naturally if you maximize the efficiency of your form.

  • @Lonesomesundown That's no force. I've lifted a 250 pound person unwillingly before and I'm only 185. That's called muscle strength, not some mystical force. And everyone has it, not just martial artists.

  • @ninjajesus81 You say "That's no force" obviously not understanding that "muscle strength" is a force. Force from the fascia is also a force. In this case he is using force from fascia. I have experience with this, you admit you have none, so your words are hollow.

  • @Lonesomesundown So the guy in the video is using his muscle strength to make those guys jump back like that?

  • @ninjajesus81 The force is an impulse that travels through the fascia, not the muscle. Muscle works against the effect. That is why tai chi practice is an exercise in relaxation, not strength. The old masters say, "The energy is rooted (originates) in the feet, is issued through the legs, directed by the waist, and appears in the hands and fingers." At one time I thought it bogus, too. Experience it in person. It is weird, not magic. But it takes many years to figure out and train.

  • @Lonesomesundown Something like that could be tested and proven to be true. Since it's not, I'm going to put it in the bullshit pile. You apparently want people to believe you when you say it exists, but you don't want to actually go out of your way to prove it? That's a red flag right there that indicates it's bullshit.

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  • @ninjajesus81 It's not like he's levitating, he's generating a physical jolt. Perhaps someone could make a video showing this and you could see it. Oh, wait, someone did. Plus, I'm telling you I've felt how this works, yet you remain closed-minded. Find someone who can demonstrate this, then you will understand. Or not, it is your loss. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." - Benjamin Franklin.

  • @Lonesomesundown Oh shit you quoted Ben Franklin, that means you win all arguments.

    It's a physical jolt that causes them to jump back? Are you fucking kidding me? Someone DID make a video showing this? No, they made a video showing morons jumping backwards. That doesn't explain WHY they jumped backwards. I could make a video of me touching my friend and then doing a backflip. Does that mean me touching him caused me to do a backflip?

    You're not giving me proof and that's why I don't believe it

  • kinda iffy....almost looks cooperative...hmmmm.

  • I don't know if it is true but i surely could be true. I have seen so many videos like this although I have never seen a real demonstration to me. Somebody may not believe in such power, but imagine, what happens to you when you give a hard push to a wall. you will surely rebounce like that.

  • I know that the Shaolin practice Golden Bell Method, and that this training can lead to being entirely unmovable. We can see this in the Shaolin holding back an ox videos. A lot of this has to do with being handled, otherwise the student may fall to the master not on purpose but because thats how he was taught. FaJin is not fake however. I know this because I can do it and not on students. This I am shaky of, but rooting yourself does leads to incredible power. I am unbiased.

  • I guess not.

  • I have been looking for someone who can demonstrate on me. I've visited a lot of schools in my last 20 years of training. All those who claimed to do it did not want to demonstrate on me. The reasons were many and usually weak. In several cases ex-students of theirs would tell me the "facts" later. So I won't say it does not exist but I am still waiting to have someone prove it to me.

  • There is an old master who practises Taiji on the bank of West Lake, Hangchou. He has a couple girls who practised with him. He will demonstrate this to you. You hit his chest as hard as you can and when you hit really hard you are bounced about 10 feet away and you would breaj\k your wrist! Absolutely true!

  • Have you seen this yourself? Any of his students anywhere else in the world? At worst case any video evidence?

    Also, I would like to know if there is anyone in Australia who claims to be able to do this.

  • No, I have not seen this one. I met this guy on a cruise on The Grandeur of the Seas to the Carribean. He just retired from NCR and he and his Taichi students were taking the cruise as a group. He has a Ph.D. in engineering and he went to Purdue to study Taichi with another professor whose book, Taichi Chi Kung I have read and followed for years. They are not the kind of people who enjoy bragging.

  • This sorts of demonstrations can be done by:

    1. Students simply helping out and its choreographed

    2. A form of hypnosis/suggestion

    For #2 though when they try it on someone with a strong will then it does not work. This is also a reason why many of the ones who believe they can do it only do it with select people. Humility may be correct but I have found it more often a pretense for lack of belief that they may not suceed.

    For examples look at Derren Brown One Inch punch.

  • What we see here is basically second class.The "chi" in some masters can generate a hollow and liquid emptiness" on the parts hit by outside forces and bounce that forces back with a stronger force. An attacker can be paralysed for life if he attacks really hard. Kung fu masters were taught not to shown off this skill when they acquire it. Those who really show off usually are mediocre.

  • if they wanted to lie to you about there power, wouldn't they just fall backwards instead of jumping? i think ppl are smart enough to know how fake properly. this is only a video. you can't draw conclusions from what you don't actually experience.

  • hellllll yeah

  • - I assure you that this is real but you have to experience this first hand to understand the forces involved. Find a yiquan master or the rare internal martial arts master that understands internal power and see for yourself.

    - If you don't learn to jump you will bust your ass.

    - Fighting systems that incorporate this type of internal power are the most practical fighting systems but are not for those who are not serious practitioners. ( lazy and can only bs about fighting)

  • I attend yi quan training myself, and I can say that what you see is real. The guys are jumping because they are uprooted and out of balance. Learning stuff like that, however, takes a lifetime of daily training, and then only the really talented will achieve this kind of martial arts superstardom. Ultra cool though ;)

  • You will waste your lifetime to learn something that is not at all practical in real fight.

  • are u bloody thick ive seen my sensai take all of us down by just using a similar skill, he knock all but 2 of us down simply by chakra movement

  • The guys are uprooted and out of balance only because they lock up their own structure. A normal person would take a small step back but it takes years of training to become a puppet :-)

  • If this guy is really knocking back these students, why do they jump? If he was actively pushing them, they would simply move backwards, not up.

    The only reason they are moving upward is because they themselves are jumping.

  • They are actually pushing themselves away. If they just relax their arms, nothing will happen.

  • @Tiexiaolong of COURSE they are jumping, part of yi chuan training is when someone puts that energy in you YOU choose to jump to help neutralize attacks and retaliate better

  • @Tiexiaolong haha soooo true lol

  • @Tiexiaolong They purposly jump to reduce the impact. It's almost like breaking a fall. Thats Why.

  • @Tiexiaolong Before anyone moves their muscles, chi must travel up the spine, BEFORE the chi eventually moves to the meridians, then to the effected tissues to cause movement.

    As chi develops in a student, the first reaction is that of the spine straightening. This is a normal development. This movement is not fake, as the affected student has never witnessed this movement in another student.

    When the master has enough internal power, continued, next post...

  • @Tiexiaolong

    Not necessarily true, at all. Ive been in Martial Arts for fifteen years now, and the upward movement is easily explained with basic physics...?

  • "why do they jump?"

    One way to put it is that he destroyed their root to the ground and center,if you train to root and someone disturbs that root,you will shift some how,if someone can kill your root fast,your body will try to find some way to ground itself,without thinking,it kind of feels like youve had a chair pulled out from you,that's a vague way of putting it.If you didnt train your root,it might not work on you,then you would just get hit,bam.It really is just a question of mechanics.

  • @OakIslandBandit cmon. so is derren brown 'disturbing mechanics'?

  • Another bullshit vedio from this guy

  • i went to the class for a few months. what you see here is just as real when you see an akido teacher have his stundents attack in a particular way and they roll and slap the floor to prevent injury. this is just as real but it is internal power.

  • @philip You're clearly knowledgeable about Martial Arts and I respect your opinion, but 'Unscientific'? Unscientific is making a snap judgment based on a video clip. Scientific would be finding a yiquan teacher and checking them out for real.

  • I think these work only on his students.

    He does not want to take a experienced person as his student.

    By the way,

    Is martialguy Cheuk Fung himself or his student?

  • The four demo-partners reaction's movement is faster than the master's action. This is unscientific and non-realistic !! If the four parntners relax their forearms, do they need to jump backward by their own force?

    Philip

  • hipnosis power

  • if u cant work out the simple mechanics of this trick u shouldent be studying kung fu.

  • @tennytigers What mechanics of the trick? The idiots are jumping back. He didn't do anything with his kung fu to make that happen. It's just more fake bullshit.

  • Amateurs pass judgements with little to no facts. Check it out first and then decide. You never know what you may be missing.

  • exaclly....*sigh*

  • fart ?

  • This is pseud gung fu !!!

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