World At War: Inside the Reich 5 of 5

[Frozenyak]

Why was Rommel's involvement in the conspiracy not mentioned?

[thejohn95]

Rhymer is hysterical. He hasn't changed one bit.

[slickwillywize]

Nasty lot

[JocieDucks]

If the Stauffenberg assasination attempt was successful, Germany was still doomed. Himmler/Bormann/Goebbels would have taken over the helm of command and kept running the show... All these guys had death sentences written on their heads so they would have kept fighting to the bitter end.. just like Hitler did

[silentghost23]

@JocieDucks

The plan was for the army to overtake the government. Operation Valkyrie was actually a procedure in place in case of a revolt so Stauffenberg & the conspirators actually used a plan that was in place to their own advantage. What was going to happen was the army would seize control, arrest the SS and anyone seen as a threat. Himmler/Bormann/Goebbels had no power in the army so they too were to be arrested. Of course it would have been hard to pull off but that was the plan

[DeathMantleRogue]

"MURDERS!?

YOU...MISERABLE...SCUM!"

That judge really knows how to bust someones balls.

[youse12132]

@DeathMantleRogue

Yeah. Man I felt sorry for that defendant. 

[masterblackthorn]

Hmmm... what a nice guy this Rhymer was.. is it me or am I looking at a robot ? Its easy to see how Hitler got so far with people like him around. You will be assimilated by the borg.. springs to mind

[baraxor]

"Gott Mit Uns" was the motto of the Kingdom of Prussia, and was kept as the watchword of the German Army throughout the Second and Third Reichs...it wasn't an innovation by Hitler.

[niallogs]

The Volkssturm that were sent out to meet the Soviet hordes were woefully lacking arms. If you look at the [arade, some recruits have non-German weapons , such as British Vickers machine-guns and French Adrian helmets. A far cry from the German soldiers passing through the Brandenburg gates four years before.

[66peacelove]

If ever there was a war between good and evil it was WW2. The Nazis HAD to be defeated by all means neccessary. I'm a white Brit still trying to forgive the Germans. A similar danger to our white liberal democratic values is coming today from another hateful and evil cult- Islam.

[TopForkZombi]

@66peacelove As if that was a war of good vs evil. Have you forgotten about the allied bombings which killed thousands of Germans and the mass killing of POWs and civilians. Not to mention the millions of women raped by the Red Army.

[sirdard1]

My salute to the bravery of german (officer in Poland) who clearly announced that he did not like murderous politics of nazis.

[teslagod2003]

it was kinda stupid to bomb hitler,they should have shot him in the head,if they were attempting to kill him...

i guess the brits were the real master of assainations,if they were the one who executed it,it surely wont fail...

[the82spartans]

5*'s

[kowanut]

Lewis gun, British WW1 .303

[georgel19841]

9.01,look at that weapon ,what is that?it looks very impressing

[lifes40123]

at 7:43 it sounds like they said ass hole hitler

[lifes40123]

why didnt hitler kill the brain damage soldiers. they were handicap wernt they. hitler u only respect your soldiers u bych

[fusilier45]

@lifes40123,because they werent naturally handicapped maybe,and I think that they deserved full respect

[leit420]

I also read once that the rich people in Germany started their own party and hitler won on a 30% vote total nearly 70% of Germans did not vote for hitler. germans were told Poland invaded them. total control of the media. there are a lot of lessons for all of us to learn.

[lifes40123]

u live as a german u die as a german!. just like what the nazis did to jews. u live as a jew u die as a jew!. fuc nazi and germans.

[leit420]

hitler got shot up with cocaine at least once. interesting though if ya have heard the skull the russians had is a female. maybe hitler took poison and shot eva. but the eyewitnesses didnt see it that way. this documentary is great though isnt it.

[lifes40123]

lol cocaine wasnt really known back then

[atltom58]

cocaine was a highly popular drug in lots of patent medicines at the turn of the century until it was finally put under strict controls in the 30s.

[14kip]

no in fact hitler shot himself and eva braun took an overdose .

[THECRAZYDUDE18]

@14kip hitler took acid and shoot himself just to be sure the red army wouldnt get him alive

[mindaCat]

@THECRAZYDUDE18 hitler took acid and flew to the moon

[THECRAZYDUDE18]

@mindaCat

No he didn´t.........i just came back from the moon 5 mins ago......oo wait :O

[evatomo4341]

Who were forced to be in the battle, teenagers and old people at the end, that's the destiny of the third Reich! All fatal mistakes of Hitler went to the people the most weakest. Non-German soldiers who were brain-washed and obliged to fight Nazist side were also the victims...

I learnt a lot checking the vids in here. Thanks for post!

[lesterclaypool1]

ya and check this out hitler was never ever elected to office ,,, and his father Alois married his niece and they had Adolf so he was inbred ,,,,

[witherwind33]

Fate wanted Hitler to die in defeat, not as a martyr.

[jasonspnd]

@witherwind33 so many martyrs already died b4 hitler did.. in was even fast easy and painlessl death

[AllanR2D2]

Hitler had Parkinson's. You can see the signs of it in various films - his hands shake uncontrollably.

[lesterclaypool1]

hitler took meth amphetamines , fact

[mc0558]

The whole of Germany was running on anphetamines.

[fredhubner]

Amongst other things ...

[maverick41218]

Does anybody else find it interesting that they swear by God in their oath?

[AllanR2D2]

I believe around 1/3 to 1/2 of Germans were Catholic

[maverick41218]

Well I know many had Lutheran roots... I just found that odd.

[AllanR2D2]

I believe there was some reference to God on their uniform belt buckle as well - but that may have been from WWI.

[maverick41218]

Yeah, I think you're right... Hadn't remembered that. I think they said something like "God with us" or something like that.

[Reegatron]

Check my reply to AllanR2D2's comment; theres your answer.

[Reegatron]

It was in fact WWII. All Wehrmacht troops had "Gott Mit Uns" (God be with us) stamped on their belt buckles. Waffen SS had a different phrase "Mein Heure Heist Treue" (My Honour is my Loyalty). Note how the SS one lacked a religious connotation.

[maverick41218]

Thanks :)

[herzglass]

Still I think Hitler was planning a absolute secularism and that would have meant to wipe it of the people's mind aswell. Most people in germany at that time were very religious so it was just a way to keep their moral high.

[jgcooper]

"Gott Mit Uns" on the belt buckles you're right

[johndcorr]

The Volksturm was a perfect symbol of Nazi desperation in the final stages of the war: regiments made up of underage youths and old men. In the end, the military effectiveness of the Volksturm units was negligible.

[YerTalkingKrap]

(sigh) pity they missed the hit, but at least it does show that not all Germans were crazy nut-jobs, and they knew murder was murder.

[henkbress]

u got that wrong, the plot had nothing to do witht the holocaust, which was as good as over at that time. It was bc they saw germany was losing and didn't want to shed more german blood. It, in fact, shows the opposite: germans only did something to protect fellow-germans, they didn't care at all about the mass murder on jews.

[ShatteredArmy17]

Perhaps you should refer back to 3:01, henkbress. And, if the Germans didn't care about the murder of jews, why was it kept secret from them?

[NYerintransit]

The Holocaust was over? Uh, no not at all.

[henkbress]

it was largely over, most jews were already killed by then

[YerTalkingKrap]

Didn't one of the plotters SAY in the German "court" which tried him that he couldn't live with "the murders"? I dunno, sounds like he knew more than you're making out. Either way, this is all supposition, and neither of us can really be so assertive with our statements - so, perhaps make your comments more "I think you are wrong", rather trying to make out like you're some sort of expert on it, m'kay?

[henkbress]

i guess burnleyfan nailed this one on the head. It is obvious, giving that one of the main plotters had killed a lot of jews without any problem, that stopping the holocaust was not on the front of their minds. But ur right, every plotter might have had different motives. What i've read from it though, is that in the trials and just after the war, none mentioned the holocaust as a motive, and now 60 years later we are supposed to believe that that was their main drive.

[burnleyfan1965]

Nebe incidentally its said tried to reduce the jews killed in his area by lying about the figures and upping them so itd look good on him.However massaged his figures were he certainly killed a lot.and he was a plotter so what on earth were his motives i wonder?? save his skin perhaps???

[henkbress]

that's always a powerful motive...

[burnleyfan1965]

amongst those plotters eventually executed was Artur Nebe whos war record is mostly diustinguished as being part of the Einsatzgruppen and running mobile gas vans around the Eastern Front.They just knew theyd lost and wanted to try and save their own skins.Same for that scum Speer he more than anyone could have killed Hitler had he really wanted to but Speer was nothing but a liar,he was up to his neck and higher in blood

[henkbress]

hear hear. Speer for me symbolizes how germany treated this event as a nation. A lot of sweet talking, combined with a lot of very evil deeds. In that sense i think germans get way too much credit. They have perpetrated the most evil crimes, and after ww2 a lot of horrible war criminals found a safe home in west-germany.

[YerTalkingKrap]

Well, I guess we're all entitled to our OPINIONS on this matter. I think it was a good thing that they tried to kill Hitler, you 2 seem to be in agreement that it was pointless to even try, regardless of the reason. And really, if we're going to be talking about horrible crimes against humanity, let's be careful, shall we? Pretty much every nation's hands are bloody from evil acts, and to brand an entire nation because of it would leave the same argument open to all other nations, too.

[henkbress]

that's a bit too easy. What the germans did stands out in scale. Also, hitler was democratically elected, the holocaust started with the wild holocaust (initiated by ordinary germans), went on after specific orders to stop, and so on. Germany 1933-1945 contained an extraordinary high amount of very evil people, most of whom never got punished and actually found a safe haven in West Germany post ww2. And no, that's not average, germany imho stands out in its evilness. Not all germans, but a lot.

[burnleyfan1965]

think was a good idea they tried but still think a lot of it was because they knew theyd had it and ok maybe they did want to save the german people from the slaughter that came.yep every nations done bad things,UK more than a lot as well.Still think the motive was largely weve lost lets get shot of Hitler and sue for a peace which suits us rather than any genuine anti nazi feelings.you didnt achieve high rank without being at least sympathetic to the nazis

[burnleyfan1965]

To me Speer was the worst of almost all.He knew everything that was going on but was careful never to witness anything with his own eyes and avoided concentration camps at any cost.But he was in poznan when himmler announced the final solution even though he denied it the scheming liar admitted as much in his own memoirs.speer deserved the rope far more than most but he charmed the court.

[Zeroh101]

rhanks uoi