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  • i dont believe a single word wat some peace of paper says only scientific knowledge facts so y dont u extremists muslim rats go read you bed time story

  • Unbelief to Islam is like betraying your country. It is treason against all that is good to Islam.

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  • 1) please excuse my misspellings

    2) disbelieving in The Creator is unlogical, that's like disbelieving in the woman who gave birth to you, except much much worse.

    3) how does one expect to enter paradise if one does not belive in The Creator who created paradise?

    4) if you are positive that the Qur'an is false and you are correct, then show your proof to Sheikh Khalid Yasin from Brooklyn, NY, possibly living in Australia.

    5) re-read the Qur'an and dont lie to yourself please

  • @DDPYasmina

    Regarding your item:

    "2) disbelieving in The Creator is unlogical, that's like disbelieving in the woman who gave birth to you, except much much worse."

    There IS empirical evidence that my mother exists. There is none that your alleged "creator" exists. Where is this supposed paradise. What evidence do you have that it exists? Forget Sheikh Khalid Yasin from Brooklyn, I want tangible evidence not convoluted logic. Empirical evidence cannot be dismissed, brainwashing can.

  • @DDPYasmina You sound like all of the other uneducated fools out there. The only thing writing ever did for you is allow you to post your stupidity on the internet for everyone to see.

  • 1) I will not, but I'm not a nice person.

    2) Why? What is the harm in being free to not believe? That's what Christopher Hitchens called the Celestial North Korea.

    3) How do you know Paradise exists? Because you were told? Because you hope there is?

    4) Who the hell is that?

    5) You assume your religion is right; which is very shallow, and slightly insulting to your own humanity.

  • 4) If Sheikh Khalid Yasin from Brooklyn, NY has proof that the Qur'an is true, he can show his evidence to Jrparri from youtube, possibly living in Chicago.

  • @DDPYasmina disbelieving in the "creator" is no like disblief of your mother. 1) you can meet your mother face to face 2) you can witness other women giving birth 3) we have reasonable DNA knowledge and we can trace your DNA to your parents 4) we know how humans reproduce and human reproduce the same way billions of times for as long as we can go back through history.

  • have you ever seen allah? have you ever witnessed allah create anything? can you duplicate the work, you say, allah has done?

    the answer to all these questions is no.

    but you can see your mother, witness her give birth, and if you are a woman yourself, you can give birth.

    No comparision can be made between disbelief in allah and disbelief in your mother.

  • also, if you belief in allah simply to get into paradise then you are fool and you are the one lying to yourself. if your biggest motivation to do good deeds, adhere to dogma and throw away common sense is simply out of a selfish desire to get into paradise or a cowardly fear to avoid hell... then you are a very pathetic individual and religion was MADE to fool you into blindly following other fools.

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  • kaafirs should be proud

    they have independant thought unlike many sheep-like people

  • Fuck Abaraham!

  • no just fuck you, as ur a skum

  • @mrlollypoppy Fuck you too, Muslim slut.

  • Your little Kafir sister is a slut.... Like most Kafirs in the world !!!

  • @chipallo80

    Then Mohammad would want to fuck her, as that sick Pedophile Mohammad is. What a terrible fuck he is. Fuck you.

  • @Sambucacat Its clear you ignorant Dumbass but was already clear for me when I saw you other reaction... You Kafir will burn in Hell... Have fun over there ;-)..... Bye Loser ( in this world and hereafter )

  • @chipallo80 Mohammad touched little girls, and Muslim enslaved blacks. Muslims raped people of the book. You have nothing to say Muslim. Bye loser (in this world and hereafter).

  • @Sambucacat You can keep saying your Ignorant Lying Stuff Filthy Kafir.... Time is on our side loser.... You definitly are a loser..... Thats why this is my last comment.... I wont waste my time to you Loser of an Ignorant Dumbass KAFIR !!!! Burn in Hell !!!!!

  • God is a lot more of a sophisticated idea than Fairies. Besides in the Quran it says that whoever does GOOD DEEDS and is the most RIGHTEOUS is the best in God's eyes. Also God is "oft forgiving oft merciful" so why do you assume that all atheists will be tortured for all eternity in hell.

  • Very good video. The abrahmic god behaves much like a stalinist dictator.

    I can never understand how a god is merciful but can also allow people to suffer in hell.

  • @Ramshobraja It's not God, it's man who write silly stuff like that.

  • I used to think sth. similar to you but when you think about it, without heaven or hell there can be no real accountability. This would result in a weak kind of morality. I.e. do what is good because it is good BUT if you don't then nothing will really come of it anyway!

  • @awesomewelles90 its sad that you feel additional rewards are needed for being good as if being good in itself is simply not enough of a thing to strive for.

    You should start questioning your nature and that of a God who would create beings that it needs to bribe for God behavior..

  • Actually for myself I do believe that goodness is in itself a good enough reason to do good. However I'm sure you can appreciate that without any accountability, the idea of morality is a joke.

  • Divine accountability is the joke.

    Its human barbarity. You look at the superficial and assume that because a murderer might be wealthy and strutting around that he's not suffering in anyway. Out of ignorance, fear, and hate you insist individuals like them and many tamer should suffer fates far worse than what they ever brought upon anyone else.

  • That's not what I'm saying at all. Imagine there is no heaven or hell for a minute. The compulsion to do good is purely for it's own sake. However if there is no real difference in outcome between a good or bad deed apart from a pang of guilt (which after repeating the same bad deed over and over will eventually become so dulled as to not matter anymore) then one may as well do a bad deed if it benefits him/her in any way. Hence accountability is a "necessary evil".

  • @awesomewelles90 In just as many if not most cases, handling a situation with a good or bad deed creates an entirely different outcome from the other. Not just a simple pang of guilt.

    I don't know if you have a ton of experience repeating things that are largely unforgivable but even things dulled have a way of entering the subconscious and manifesting negatively. An example being psychologically scarred soldiers who have trouble reintegrating into society after killing over and over

  • Are you saying then that the supposed psychological anguish that a pedophile who never gets caught suffers is enough to constitute moral accountability?

  • @awesomewelles90 have you ever spoken to a pedophile or have any idea why they are what they are? Its not exactly a choice of convenience like stealing which has benefits.

    How many former ones do you know that renounced it, accepted divine accountability and converted to Islam?

    On what basis do you assume their still not suffering in some form even if they hadn't been caught?

  • I'm not assuming anything, you are the one who is assuming that all wrong doers experience such great mental anguish that it constitutes accountability. Also after repeating a bad deed such as stealing sth. over and over it no longer feels bad. You want to say that there is always some hidden mental damage but you simply cannot show it! According to you Charlie Manson is suffering some sort of unbearable mental anguish but this just doesn't seem the case.

  • In fact you seem to be implying that accountability is not needed because everyone gets what he/she deserves on earth. Any idiot can see what a ridiculous argument this is. It's simply not true!

  • @awesomewelles90 superficial. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not there. Your idea of accountability is backwards for you feel people should suffer fates far far worse than what they ever inflicted on others.

    It isnt about God for he made such things for a purpose and much like the night has a reason so to do murderers and rapists. God wouldnt punish them anymore than he would the night. Divine accountability is just something you and other backwards people want for comfort.

  • "Your idea of accountability is backwards for you feel people should suffer fates far far worse than what they ever inflicted on others." You keep saying that although it's not what I believe. Personally from the ideas of heaven and hell I believe that people will suffer or be rewarded according to what they have done i.e. fairly or actually they would suffer less because God is oft forgiving oft merciful.

  • @awesomewelles90 what Quranic verses support the idea that hell would be fair and according to what people have done? I see many that talk of ingesting boiling water or dwelling in flames for extremely long periods if not eternity. Stuff far beyond what any one man ever inflicts on another.

  • @awesomewelles90 you assume the existence and necessity of divine accountability. There is more evidence for what I'm saying than for any of that.

    There's in many cases mental damage, social damage, and the consequences resulting from the act itself. 

    How do you come to that conclusion about Charles Manson? Are you his personal psychiatrist or prison guard who sees him daily?

  • No but given the interview he gave some years ago where he displayed no remorse I think that it is foolish of you (who are not I assume his personal psychologist) to assert that he definitely DOES. I say that that is an unfounded assumption to make and in fact it seems to me to be the opposite although of course it's for a professional to decide.

  • @awesomewelles90 one doesn't have to feel remorse to suffer.

    I never asserted he definitely did. He probably does atleast in the sense since he's in jail and would not want be there.

    Regardless i dont think he's a good example of someone who's benefited from making immoral choices. Atleast as far as most sane people are concerned.

  • @awesomewelles90 how many bad deeds do you suppose you do on a daily basis that you dont have a guilty pangs over?

    Do you neglect to recycle? How about eating meat knowing that's not necessary, causes pain and discomfort to another being, and continues a process which causes environmental damage effecting future generations?

  • You're right here in highlighting that there are many wrong deeds that most people repeat over and over and don't feel guilty for at all! Eating meat, not recycling, consuming like there's no tomorrow. Things that most people do and that most people don't even think about let alone feel guilty about! It just disproves what you were trying to imply that every bad deed is accompanied by mental anguish of equal value!

  • I never said every action was accompanied by an equal amount of mental anguish. I was making the argument that there is in many cases suffering there regardless of whether you can see it on the surface. Thinking one isnt necessarily suffering merely because they walk around freely or have lots of material possessions is superficial.

  • @awesomewelles90 maybe your not outright using freedom or an abundance of material possession as your criteria, but your still basing your assumptions that others (like Manson or an uncaught pedophile) aren't suffering on just a glance without any real understanding, which is superficial.

  • @awesomewelles90 I wanted to point these things out because they are things that Islam doesn't really if at all address which are more threatening and a danger to others than things like homosexuality.

  • "they are things that Islam doesn't really if at all address"

    What exactly have you read on islamic thought? Al Ghazali? Ibn Sina? anything?

    I submit that we're both better off going away and reading something useful than wasting our time here on youtube.

    I'm done talking.

  • @awesomewelles90 an I wrong? Can you show me mainstream scholars that are using Islam, shifting away from non-issues like homosexuality to deal with the very real modern and growing issues that are arising from meat consumption?

  • Great video...Shows the failure of cognitive reasoning when taking on a set of beliefs. There is more patience and understanding in this short video then any holy scripture...Religion is a failure of the imagination. It offers nothing but false hope and easy answers to unanswerable questions.

  • Very nicely scripted and narrated. Thanks a lot, mister discussislam.

  • Sura 9:29-33: Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day

    Islam is tolerant....LOL *sarcasm*

  • I AM PROUD KUFR!!!!

  • I would like to thank this video maker for sharing with us his wonderful rational capacities.We need more people like this very civilised person

  • You make it sound like belief in God is this cold logical syllogism. It is not. Reason is an important part, but there are many psychological factors as well, such as your attitude, sincerity, humility.

    Basically you have been given countless blessings by God, everyone around you and in you, that most people take for granted. rejecting God arrogantly is the main problem

  • @IslamicGoldenAge

    Are the starving people all around the world given blessing? - Oh let me guess, they must be evil because allah said he doesnt help evil ppl? -.-

  • No Iren, every single person has been given countless blessings. The problem is most people take them for granted, and ignore the countless good without being thankful, yet ungratefully focus on the little bit of bad, which itself is there for a reason.

    Life is a test, bad tests you, it allows you to turn to God, it allows others to be charitable, it makes you stronger and grow, makes you appreciate good.

    Funny that you with a fancy computer deny God, yet the people in the famine don't ...

  • Interesting.

    Although, I'd have to say that the most ungrateful being conceivable is probably the Abrahamic God itself.

    It can do anything, needs nothing, has perfect freedom and never had to lift a metaphorical finger to get anything. Despite this, and its claim to be free of wants and needs, it can't be happy until humans submit their wills to it, and so fussy is it about being worshipped that it will torture people forever for not doing so.

    Talk about being a perfectionist.

  • Hey, i dont deny god! but i dont say he is real either - because - i dont know :) as nor does anyone else.

    I deny any evil as the work of a good god! and nothing but! :) there is one that isnt known, Check out my video called 'Twisted Whispers' - that should help you clear up some misconceptions over the 'bible religion' - they got it all wrong :)

  • @IslamicGoldenAge

    No wonder the "god" of Islam, according to the Quran, describes "himself" as the plotter of the plotters. However, now you have pretty serious paradox to solve...

    You are not gonna achieve another "golden age" with invoking religious nonsese. Dont you see that?

  • Disbelief or unthankful to your creator is really a big crime bigger than Murdering people.

    Everybody will know it as soon as they soon will be detached from their material body.

    God has created fertile land, plants, animals that we eat, planetary system, water and life cycle and every thing that we human beings are the final exploiters of the whole system.

    Finally God obscured himself from obvious human eyes/senses and only sent Messengers to define the obscure world.

  • You don't actually that idiocy. Do you?

  • Inglourious Basterds / Best Films Of The Decade / #6

    Exmech2 Quote: "Back to your bridge, illiterate troll!"

    Illiterate.

  • Says who? The Creator? Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

    God also created droughts, famines, animals that eat us, cancer, viruses, etc., etc.

    Besides, God is like a parent; he brought us into this world, so he's obliged to provide something. Except, in many cases, he doesn't and that's why we have children with cancer and people who die of starvation all over the world.

    Then again, why should I have to be thankful for being forced into existence without my consent?

  • @nasirmalikjee

    God obscured himself? but he wants ppl to believe? and only the messengers was in contact with him? How convenient :D

    Allah is a stone statue dug up from saudi

  • Beliefs lead to intentions and intentions lead to actions and behaviors.

    And actions are judged by intentions by the One perfect Creator.

    So if a sane person acts rebellious and takes God's divine commands as a mockery or makes insults against God (like saying that God has a child or a wife, etc.) and turns in worship to other than the One True God, whether it's a human, tree, sun, moon, money, etc., after the clear message reached him, then indeed that is a terrible crime

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  • Fuck allah. Fuck muhammed. And fuck you and your nefarious delusions. Have a nice day.

  • Damn good video - made me subscribe.

  • Very good video... The truth is crystal clear once you get the courage to "think about it".

    Why would being a non-believer be the most serious of all sins? ( And this is not only for islam, also true for other religions)...

    The answer is simple: those hellfire threats to non-believers are the hardwired defence mechanisms of the set of lies called "religion".

    The sad thing is, not many have either the courage or the self-honesty needed to come to the correct conclusion.

  • People have the right to believe in what they want to believe and the problem is that when you don't understand it, youre likely to come to misconceptions about it. Most people who claim things about religion arent even religious, or they get religious views mixed with cultural rules and thats when things get complicate. At the end of the day, be smart enough to know that you maybe wrong. People who are ignorant about things don't deserve to be so opinionated, for or against it.

    Peace

  • Yeah ppl can believe whatever they want, But when it threatens the security, freedom, liberty and lifes of others who are not of it, it becomes a threat, not a religion, and what is the natural defence against a threat with every species? - To fight it, Your fight using 'faith' - But ppl against it fight using the oldest weapon in the world, given to us by 'god' as you say - its called instinct, you think faith can take on instinct? foolish, instinct always wins.

  • "you think faith can take on instinct? foolish, instinct always wins." - great words!

  • When are all the 'secular' Muslims who only pay lip service to Islam, because of its inherent tribalism, going to come out of their closets. We need the non religious 'Muslims' to join the forces for liberalism and moderation. Otherwise fascist clowns like ANJEM CHOUDARY will rise and get their way and life and civilisation will come to a dead end lauded over by crude power crazed minor Mohammeds like him

  • Koran is just another story book written by a mad man!

    Muslims have taken it too far and this is not acceptable when you kill people in the name of your religion and then call them racist nazis when they say they dont like your religion!

    Islam Out this is not the place!

  • God bless all the Kufr

    great video!

  • I think you also need to address is 'disbelief' is alot wider than just being a non-Muslim, it is about not being the 'right Muslim' as seen by the sectarianism in the Ummah. Reminds me of a debate over what makes a true scotsman.

  • Religion in many ways can be distilled down to two basic logical fallacies. The 'true Scotsman' one you mention, and the fallacy of popular belief. Muslims often like to talk about how its true cause so many believe it. Really of course that is a veiled warning. Go against and face X number of believers.

  • RE: vladtepesblogdotcom

    True; a bit like when a Muslim talks about the number of people who convert and say, "it is the fastest growing religion" (ignoring the fact that from 1991 to 2001 the number of people who call themselves deists grew a whopping 717% :P ) but if you point to the huge number who either are nominal Muslims or have converted away they'll claim that number of people don't matter - it is still the truth.

  • Well, after all we are talking about a belief system that specifically warns its followers not to think too much, as it may interfere with their faith. Perhaps the only truly honest teaching in Islam. I wonder what Thomas Aquinas or for that matter, any rabbi at all would say about that. No I don't really.

  • And let's not forget that no matter which superstition you're defending - there's a vast majority of humanity ready to tell you why you're full of shit.

    In the case of Islam, it also suffers from having mostly ignorant and illiterate adherents in 3rd world countries, few of which have even read he Qur'an because they don't speak Arabic *and* they often live in countries where official apostasy will get them killed.

    So much for "truth".

  • I do not know on what basis are u areguing?! many verses of koran are decisive and vowed becos when the message began,ppl completely rejected the idea of exsistance of God and they worshipped idols instead of there creator,so the verses of koran came to show them what the serve punishment of those who reject to believe in God though everything around them glorify his name,but those who have mind and heart,understand not,feel not!

  • my religion believes in the ultimate truth that anyone who practices islam will be burnt in hell for eternity. it is nothing but the truth so you might as well just follow it

    leave islam now and you shall be spared!

  • Its so depressing when you think about it. Good vid mate. Cheers!

  • Would you want to live in a society of white people run by white people for the benefit of white people? No? Does that mean you hate white people? Does that mean you and "Albaphobe"? Would you want to live in a society of Muslims run by Muslims for the benefit of Muslims? No? Does that mean you hate Muslims? Does that make you an "Islamophobe"? Opposign Islam is opposing totalitarianism.

  • Well, of course dolphins live in trees! What do they teach you people in school...

  • Great video. I love how you make a distinction between a kaafir and an infidel. Many people don't realize the difference.

  • Everyone!... support this intelligent man!!

  • Capitalism needs GOD ,,, I see that on the American dollars !! {{In God we trust}} then #1 rilgion promoters are Britsh by deviding India and fabrikting Pakstan ! #2 is USA by traning Bin Ladin in CIA schools to fight communism So tha chickins of the Imprilsm are haching, and with out stop.. no one will stop muslims only communism,, but to late Josph Stalin is dead...He would showed the Idiots where is ALLAH..sorry {{Grate Britsh King Dump}}

  • 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" (Book #84, Hadith #57)

  • Scary we allow this religion to continue in Canada.

  • all religions are scary

  • exelent vid btw :)

  • only difference between islam and christianity when it comes to forcing people to believe, islam punishes with torture in life and christianity threatens torture during eternal death.... both involve threats of torture though so there is not much difference. its all just a power gaining tactic by people who think they are gods and want to control the masses.

  • There is a very big difference between a threat of torture after death (by a god that you know doesn't exist) and a threat of torture while you are still alive (by real human beings who you know will carry out their threat since they have done this sort of thing countless times before since the 7th century), wouldn't you say?

  • yes i agree, is is the threat i am talking about though, not the carrying it out part, the threat itself is used for the same reasons, to make people worship. to many people the thought of eternal torture is worse than the thought of hours, days or weeks of torture during death, the actual "threat" is very similar but ofc the carrying out part is different...

  • oops typo

    "hours days or weeks during life"

    if lots of the same comment pop up all of a sudden it because i had to type this many times, my comments dont seem to be showing up : /

  • Webster's Dictionary defines a phobia as "an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects or situation." Islam's fear of "the kuffar" is just such a fear. Thus, Islam is kuffarphobic and Muslims are kuffarphobes.

  • you CAN behead apostates, stone adulterers, beat wives, marry 9 year olds, but you ....

    can NOT listen to music???? looool

    btw which islam do u mean? sunni, shia, ibadi, quranist, sufi? wahhabi? they are all different laws schools of thought with differing scholars

    watch?v=uQg6x-K82IA&feature=ch­annel_page

    ^^above video is proof miracles in quran are fake

  • Hahaha, what a lively discussions here.

    If I was god, I would draw one conclusion: after the 24000 prophets that I've sent, I still left the world in a big pile of confusion.

    Ha, even the literal word of God needs it's scholars to understand what it means. Even the Islam has many different interpretations.

    The whole trick of 'believing' and having 'THE TRUTH' is laughable.

    Who ever says he knows what God wants: slap him in the face and says THAT was divine intervention, bcuz he was lying.

  • LOL :)) :D

  • Hey, I am a fairy and I do exist!

    And I wish to love a guy!

    You got to believe that!

  • Oh, and maybe Mohammed had some very nasty hobbies and habits to accompany his epilepsy too?

  • search youtube for :Ramachandran, the Temporal Lobes and God - Part 1

    and anything else by Ramachandran

  • In Neuroscience its becoming increasingly clear that Epilepsy and religious visions and belief are connected. Perhaps Mohammed was nothing more than an epileptic who during the years of his periodic 'revelations' was simply having another fit and 'spouting' his eclectic knowledge of the Bible, the Torah and pre Islamic paganism- the witnesses of his 'fits' convinced he was in touch with a god- whatever a god is. Maybe the 'truth of Islam' is simply rooted in the ravings of a fitting epileptic

  • RE: CorporalNym

    Well, it is known that Moses for example used a naturally growing plant to induce visions. Most of the so-called 'visions' tend to come from two sources - drugs or a medical condition.

  • Yep I agree with you. In the case of Mad Mo, I think he was probably an epileptic too. Many of his behavioural incidents have classic symptoms for epilepsy. Search for epilepsy and religious visions particularly VS RAMACHANDRAN on youtube. There is also an excellent book by famous apostate DR. Al SINA who looks at the psychological profile of MAD MO. Either way he was a murdering, raping, thieving, child molesting thug. No doubt about it. Muslims are members of an anachronistic brutal cult.

  • Pain is a reaction of survival.

    How can we devise truthfully the believable and the unbeleiveable when our egos stand in the way?

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  • What I discern in the Koran and the Bible, and the comments on Youtube, is an all too human obsession with revenge, punishment, torture and, the worst of all sins, absolute certainty in the truth of YOUR book, and YOUR god. In the video is made THE most telling point; 'You don't CHOOSE your beliefs'. I have studied, and considered, and debated religions for more than 40 years, and do not, and cannot, believe any of their claims, much as I might like to. For this honesty, the punishment is...??

  • the arrogance of islam and muslims is catching them and they are becoming from day to day totaly

    isolated and unimportant

    actually who care what their book or religion about other pple say

  • "TomTom's need beating. "

    - Spoken like a true totalitarian extremist.

  • Weren't tom toms those two-legged animals that Luke and Han rode on the ice planet Hoth? Why would you want to beat them?

  • TomTom's need beating.

  • If that is true, please remove the verses in the quran that disrespect other people's way of worship and comments about other people's religion. Every time those verses are read, it is muslims "to bash peoples beliefs."

  • i think all of you are fU*kin dumb why waste your time getin on anyone 4 there belifes /since your so cool go get a life and leave the infaldels alone

    HA HA, me i study partical/ throretical physics

    and YES iam MUSLIM baltimore md WHAT!!!!!!

  • Great video and yes it is insaine.. you see I think that abrhamaic religions where made for social and political controll thus making people thinking that critical thinking of the belife was wrong or in insiane was something that people blind followers.. it is trick on peoples minds...

    All love from me Jasmine

  • I deny Allah, his angels and his apostels and I don´t believe that one part of mankind will go to hell while the other part has sex with virgins in paradise.

    What now?

  • As the 2005 Kaffir of the Year, I will put you in nomination for this year's award.

  • Great video!

  • i cant wait for the day of jugedment

  • I can't wait for people to learn that judgment is spelled like this.

  • wow you moron i type faster than you talk and sometimes i lose my order

    go jump, we'll all give you a spelling award

  • A spelling award? For me?!  Thank you! Hey, maybe you'll win an award for blowing up a school bus full of children or a store full of innocent shoppers.

  • hahah good point lol :P

  • wow thats rich coming from a man that lives in a country who's troups committing mass murder in other countries and really getting awarded for it.

  • Go and live in Afghanistan GuiltyOfBeingaMuslim

    then you won't need to feel guilty. Don't forget to leave your computer and your mobile phone behind and the liberal freedoms you have in Australia

  • There is a verry good reason why disbelievers are handled like that, other religions do the same thing, even worse are people who leaves a religion (auto death), if poeple can see that you can live without it, or that it is tolerated, it will show other that "you" can also escape, that you dont have to follow what we say, giving the clergy less followers, then less powers, it is to protect the clergy's power nothing else.

  • thelordakira: "There is a verry good reason why disbelievers are handled like that, other religions do the same thing, even worse are people who leaves a religion" Name one! I'd be interested to hear which other religion kills apostates. What do you consdier as "even worse"? I have never heard of another religion that does that, so please educate us.

  • As an Atheist, I feel that if it weren't for Islam's inhuman and genocidal attitude towards us, Islam wouldn't be an issue for me either way. I don't have any problem with people "believing" in a "God" or as many and varied "Gods" as they want as long as they don't have a bad attitide towards me. The thing about Islam is that Islam feels it has a "missionary right" to either convert us or kill us. Nobody has that right. This is why I have a problem with Islam. It hates me, so I hate it back.

  • I am a 100% certain that this is the BY FAR the best video on youtube

    BY FAR!!!!!!!

  • I heard the excuses by muslims that the amount of money Saudi Arabia takes from mecca is less than one percent of the countries income. That might be true, TODAY. When the idea of islam was first made up by mohammed, humanity was not using that oil. In fact, oil from Saudi Arabia only became popular in the last 80 years. Prior to that, most of the mecca area made majority of its money from the tourist schemes called the hajj.

  • At the current world oil consumption and growth, Saudi oil will actually empty out in less than twenty years. Something the government of Saudi Arabia is very fearful of. It is desperately trying to find some other industry. It knows its tourist scheme called hajj will no longer make enough money for a country with a veracious appetite. Most likely the country will revert back to desert nomads, and its influence will drop back to the nothingness it once was.

  • Saudi are attempting to create a business port near Makkah but what their true intentions are I don't know. Let me also remind you that Saudi is a monarch created in the 20th century...to say Islam is a profiting business because of what Saudi do  yet again a amazingly ludicrous argument.

    Saudi are hinging their hopes on Tourism, which is why Dubai is such a hotspot for luxury living.

    Hajj is NO tourist destination, to go for Hajj is a duty for every Muslim who can afford the trip.

  • Hajj is ALREADY an appeasing appetite and has been for over 1400 years. Inhabitants would welcome pilgrims to their homes when they would travel to Hajj. Today with the advance of technology Air travel and Hotels have replaced common nomadic Hospitality. Hajj was NEVER a revenue since it was NEVER a business activity. Stringing together preposterous accusations as always.

    MOST of the country do live humble lives, the attraction is not the facilities but the Kaba and the sacred Masjid.

  • It seems you are need of basic knowledge regarding what Hajj entails. In Islam Muslims go to visit the Sacred Masjid where the Kaba is situated and also the City of Medina where the prophet is buried. We go their for spiritual enlightenment and worship. The rituals of Hajj do not involve purchasing commodities or giving Checks to the Saudi Government. Yes local people make a living by selling their goods but that has NOTHING to do with Hajj.

    Pilgrimage naturally attracts income.

  • People are not forced to dish our cash to entertain themselves. In fact Hajj is not for material enjoyment.

    The Saudi Government ARE investing money so they can create a Viable Tourist attraction for Muslim who WANT to learn and be educated...

    Most pilgrims after completing Hajj venture out to educate themselves more on the different locations related to our prophet and his life. To say the country will revert "back" doesn't make sense since as long as Muslim live it will always be visited

  • To say Hajj is a tourist scheme is ridiculous. Tourists are different to pilgrims. Please open up a dictionary and learn to differenciate between the two. :D

  • yeah yeah yeah, claim what you want. Pilgrimage itself is a joke. Keep telling yourself this ridiculous claim. hajj is a tourist scam and always has been. Get over it.

  • Allah sounds like the Christian God but on steroids.

  • Kuffarpower!

  • im a girl....and you are still a kuffar:)

  • I will be happy in the afterlife, even happier than I am now:) ALLAH is the one and only GOD and for those that cannot see the signs clear to them. I feel bad for you. You ppl just sit and make up questions trying to 'challenge' muslims, but its just dumb comments and questions.

  • whats the signs then

  • the reason infidelity get such a horrendous panishment is b coz the religious organisations are not happy about loosing follower and subsequently loos huge profit and easy money they are making out of our stupidity and naivety.

  • And you think Islam makes money from converts? Can you please show me.

    We don't sell candy bars with Jesus' name for extra price. No, we don't sell with such cheap marketing schemes.

  • you get more than candy bars, Zakath, Khums, Sedaghat, and don't say those money goes to poor people, because they are not plus all the money people donate to masques go strait to head of those religious body, not to forget in bigger scale they generate huge profit by verging the wars and selling arm through the hatred and differences created by religions.

  • plus the Saudi incom from pilgrims(funny majorly they are from poor countries,instead of investing those moneys in their own countries,they are pushing into Saudis ass.Because they dont make enoug from oil)They dont sell chocolates,they sell properties from heaven.I was forgotten how to laugh!

  • true, true, I'm originally from Iran, religious organisations in my country are simply the richest, rich beyond your imagination.

    naive and poor people flooding into holy sites and pouring money into their grave cage in hope of curing or having baby and Mullahs are richest people without lifting a finger in their whole life, simply just by selling never existing Allah.

  • That maybe the case in Iran where the Shia are subservient to their Leaders and dead sheikhs but in most other Muslim places we don't worship and bow down to dead Imams or holly men. Shirk and idol worship has become prevalent near grave sites. The Ahla Sunnah do not profit in such disgusting acts of idolatry.

    Even in Saudi during pilgrimage the Shia cause much disruption near the prophets grave whilst decimating the grave sites of other noble people.

  • no, its not happening in Iran, the more you bow before your believes the more you are subjected to dedicated your life, your belonging and joy of life to this virus.

    if its not happening in any other Muslim country then I'm happy because obviously they gave up traditional and original version of Islam and just took it at its face value

  • Saudi income? Don't you realise that Saudi have to maintain both Mekkah and Medina with its overwhelming annual attendance? Hygiene, shelter, food, traffic, air travel, Hotels. Just to maintain security they have to compromise many things. It also is a capital revenue for the country which only goes to benefit the pilgrims because more annual income increases the quality of facilities.

    Any bias hate-monger can throw insults and suspicion at things which they don't like.

  • MrGrandDragon,: Mecca and Medina are clearly world heritage sites, as were the monumental syncretic hellenistic Bamyan Buddah statues in the Hazarajat valley in Afghanistan. The history of both are EQUALLY intriguing.

    One of these heritage sites was destroyed by a very arrogant biased insulting and suspicious version of Islam. They justified the detruction as instructions from the Qu'ran.

    When Muslims begin to objectively examine thier own faith, the negative comments may begin to temper

  • I would be the first to destroy those Idols. In a land inhabited with over 98% Muslims it would be inconsistent and contradictory for Muslims to simply ignore it. Again please try to be more dynamic. Muslims are told to examine their faith which is what gave strength to the Afghanies

  • MrGrandDragon: Then according to the very rule you espouse it would be morally acceptable to destroy every mosque in america since muslims are outnumbered. And to do so with dynamite...You are a self serving hypocrit and a fool and appear to be dangerously deluded...something to be defended against because you will do the same aggression to any culture that does not appeal to your instictive religiousity...Shameful

  • MrGrandDragon,am I the hate monger? Skip oil rich golf countries and Saudi Arabia,most muslim countries are poor and large part of their populations live under horrific conditions and their rich fellow citizens throw millions of dollars to Arabian deserts for haj and umrah(becouse quran orders it).Of course as more they spend they get VIP tretment as well(but they are all equals ones they wear ehraam).I always admired the way,how the muslims are able to justify every hypocrisy of their faith.

  • UAE profit from exports of OIL and Not Muslim Pilgrams. LOL There is a substantial difference between the two. To accommodate Millons of annual Pilgrams isnt cheap and that incoming cash only goes to facilitate such services. People expect a certain degree of accommodation and its ONLY natrual that those with more wealth will pay for better standards of living. Citizens of that locality are indeed very poor but Pilgrams are restricted from visiting near by inhabitants. VIP ? LOL

  • MrDragon,I believe everyone understand what I meant in my previous comments and replies to your comments.Stop playing smart and distorting subject.Everyone can go to google and check out about hajj packages or Saudi revenues from hajj tourism and etc.

  • good video

  • Hassan, You also claim that the verse you quote is used to define a "kafir". However, you didn't complete the translation, which should have been along the lines of: "...He who denies Allah, His books, His messengers and the day of judgement has gone far astray". The verse uses the phrase "man yakfur" meaning "He who denies", implying deliberate denial, as opposed to "man yukathib" or "man la yosaddiq", implying simple non-belief of an assertion.

  • where is deliberate? even according to you it says "he who denies" and all of the suddedn you addin "deliberate"? thats what i cant stand about believers who try to explain their verses. you add in words that are not even there. you also ignore the fact that Hassan made apoint in his video that suggests that it would be insane to intentially deny a god you know is real and risk spendin ETERNITY in hell. allah would be buring insane people. how nice of HIM. lol. watch the video again.

  • in response to your comment to mine (i cant find it on here) there is no such thing as your GOD and my GOD. GOD is for everyone. And the prophets were for everyone to relate to as humans and understand that GOD chose them to reveal HIS message because it is easy for HIM to send an angel or anything else, but HE wanted us to understand these prophets and take heed to their worlds on a human level. Its a real shame ppl waste so much time hating something that is there to save your soul.

  • im am not the one that claims to have a god. that is all you. and plus there are several different versions of god out there. to avoid confusion between the variouse faiths i am making specific referece to the god YOU believe in. so cut the bs redrick about my god, your god, our god nonsense.

  • Im proud to be a MUSLIM, and when I see ppl like you who are AntiIslam, It makes me stronger, we are growing everyday and we will win!

  • lol no