I'm baffeled that dumbs shits think there is some trade mark on marriage I was brought up to think marriage was between 2 loving consenting adults no matter what there race,gender,nationality or religion its something to help love blossom
I haven't commented on this in years. It's good to see that a comment I made so long ago is still encouraging ppl to think! Well done all! My views still haven't changed much. People often hate loaded questions that force them to think outside of their own small understanding. But the facts are simple: In millions of years their has been no manifestion of a new sex. We are still created male and female! So I still believe there are no grounds for homosexual saying they are born that way.
@Dizzystill You said, "So I still believe there are no grounds for homosexual saying they are born that way." Prove it. Also, when did you "choose" your sexual orientation(gay,lesbian,bi,straight)? What was your sexual orientation 5 minutes before you made your choice? Since you "believe," with no evidence that gay people "choose" to have a gay sexual orientation, then you are admitting from your own experience that you are gay or bi, therefore you are choosing to suppress your real feelings?
Interracial marriage is not the same as same-sex marriage. Comparing sex to race is like comparing apples to oranges. Gavin Newsome just doesn't get it.
All I am saying is that if you care that much about what your money unknowingly supports then you should never ever pay for anything. Even the money you pay for groceries at a market trickle their way into the pay checks on millions. Heaven's to betsy for all you know your money could be supporting a movement that wants to teach that popular language from star treck in schools! lets be sure not to live so that others can't support something we are against!
was the waitress and the man who worked in the theater that were forced to resign from their jobs treated fairly? Basically socriety decided they didn't like that they supported prop 8 with their hard earned money. It was as if those who ate at the el cyote restaraunt felt responsible just because the money in which they paid for their meal trickled its way through the system into this waitress's pay check. cnt.
Gay marriage is an oxymoron there are no complementarities to merge together, not physical or psychological. Legalizing Gay Marriage would also legally persecute anyone who would disagree with the ruling. If Christian’s parents want to pull their kids from a public school event that promotes homosexuality they will no longer have the CHOICE to do so, their rights will be gone!
Why do liberals always compare civil rights(race) to homosexual marriage rights? And at the same time keep a straight face like they think they won the argument, its so damn disgusting! God damn, so many retards live in this country and its scary.
If God created Gays He would have created them without the endowments of sperm & eggs. Lesbians wouldn't have a uterus nor milk ducts. A gay man's rectum would be able to lubricate on its own.
Trust in Jesus. Read His word. He will lead you to the light.
@Pacifica74 being a gay person is not all about sex it is so much more than that it is so ignorant for people to think that way it is all about LOVE nothing else
@tcatn0c When God says no, it is because He loves us too much for us to go down the wrong path. What one might view as love, God might view as sin. For example, two heteros having an adulterous affair. They would claim it is all about love too. We just have to love and trust our Creator, even when His answer is no.
@Pacifica74 did you know that god is everything and everyone around us including you and me everything is litterally one we are all god we are everything we are conected with everyone and everything so there's never been a separation between anything or anyone and there will never be a separation separation = illusion
and I do not " view as love" I feel LOVE I feel it in my soul and in my heart not in my view and what I feel does not harm anyone physicall nor does it harm anyones feelings
@tcatn0c What you've described is a Pantheistic belief system. It isn't valid as you've created a god to suit your ideals. It's a violation of the first commandment.
With regard to feeling emotions, they often mislead us.
@Pacifica74 a Pantheistic belief actually makes a lot of sense if you are an open minded person. I've created a god to suit my ideals? OK! look who's talking you are doing the exact same thing my friend. hmm? so if I violate the first commandment I am going to hell hmm? hey did somebody say scare tactics? and to let you know I am not going to let fear control me I don't practice fear I practice LOVE.
@Pacifica74 For you are a slave to a book that you don't even know who wrote it and I know you are going to say "god wrote the bible" but come on get real that book was writen by Homophobic, Genophobic, ignorant, narrow minded control freaks.
your example for "How can feeling love mislead" isn't valid because Affairs inevitably hurt someone, Someone ALWAYS Gets Hurt With an Affair. So being gay has nothing in common with having an affair a gay relationship does not hurt anyone in any way.
@tcatn0c Beastiality, Necrophilia, Polygamy...technically no one is hurting anyone but it doesn't make it right. These are called 'vile affections' along with being listed with homosexuality.
@Pacifica74 Beastiality is a mental disorder, Necrophilia is also a mental disorder. An animal cannot consent into sexual activity with a human being, and in some cases animals are abused so obviously someone does get hurt. Necrophilia same thing a dead body cannot consent into sexual activity with someone. In most cases the body is sexually abused by the murderer obviously someone does get hurt the victim and the family. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder nor a vile affection sorry! =)
@tcatn0c What you call mental disorders are really evil desires. Homosexuality appears to be a victimless, but it is still sexually immoral. God is not a liar and if you disagree with Him, you are calling Him one.
@Pacifica74 They are mental disorders and like I said Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. I see that we are starting to agree that Homosexuality is harmless. I have mentioned that being a gay person is not all about sex its so much more than just sex its really more about love. Sexuall morality sex is a good thing it doesnt matter if its gay or straight sex as long as its Consensual sex, legal and as long as its not a sexual affair. Im calling the guys who wrote the bible liars not God.
@tcatn0c "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." 1 COR 6:18
Appearances are deceiving - especially to those who love their sin.
Don't shoot the messenger. This is the Word of God (and all those He inspired to write it).
@Pacifica74 I hope you're sustaining your opinions on scientific fact. Mental disorders have been studied and documented thoroughly. Sex and morality are two different things, and as the Bible could consider sex during menstruation or pregnancy to be aberrant (not immoral), this society has already altered our manifestations of morality to be more suitable for our times.
@sunsensations I'm basing my opinions on the One who created everything, Lord Jesus Christ. He said homosexual activity is sinning against your own body. That it's shameful. Sex is the expression of carnal passion. Sex in itself is not evil. It's where and on whome we place our affections that makes it immoral or not.
@CanTake8 No, we honestly don't care, but what we do care about is our sons and daughters growing up in a world was homosexually which is the exact opposite of heterosexuality being legalized. Do you not know what that means. We are not talking about the present, we are talking about the future. Heterosexual=reproduction, Homosexual=no reproduction. Do you know what that means when homosexuality spreads? It's honestly common sense. You do get it, you just refuse to accept it like the rest.
@circablonk That's the same rationale used by the Nazis to institute Paragraph 175 criminalizing homosexuality among men. Lesbians could be forced to bear children for the homeland, but gay men didn't contribute.
Homosexuality is a mental illness and it needs to be classified as such. Many Jews are promoting homosexuality. The Jews of today are imposters. They are not God's chosen people. The true Jew is the "Black man" of the African continent. Jews are parading around the world pretending to be God's chosen people, when God's chosen people are under their 'feet". Would God choose a people like these Jews who are blood-suckers of the poor, murderers, liars, thieves, and promoters of homosexuality? No.
@Smalldawg17 i think your confusing the christianity with another religion , last time i checked the bible doesnt teach its followers to hate anybody. second before i ever became a christian i didnt like stupid people and even to this day i still have a dislike for stupid people . last but not least you know nothing about history of science so shut up !
the fact is is that homosexuality is more of a spirtitual disease than a physical disease. its a sexual weakness maybe some have been born with but most have developed throughout their life. Its a weakness that should be cured and is just the same as an old man who has a weakness for wanting to have sex with little children. i child molester. thats how sick this disease is. It is very clear in the bible that homosexuality is wrong but the gay community just doesnt want to see or admit that
@jhendrickson300 just because the bible says homosexuality is wrong, how do you know thats even Gods word? Men wrote the bible based on Gods teaching, How do you know thats Gods word for sure? how do you know that men did not throw the issue in there for what ever of their reason? Why would the Lord hate homosexuality?
@mosstick well lets see.. the fact is is it says in the bible that God destroyed a whole city, Sodom, becuz they were practicing homosexuality.. also the bible is not just men writing "based on Gods teaching", it is a divinely inspired book and should be treated as such. Basically it is God speaking through man to the rest of mankind. God sanctified marriage between a MAN and WOMAN, not woman and woman or man and man, becuz it would go against what God stands for and He does not contradict himse
@mosstick lf. the Lord hates sin. not the sinners themselves, but yes he does hate homosexuality, this i know becuz it is an abomination against mankind. woman were created so that MAN would not be lonely, and for the procreation of mankind. True love is the love of God and the Holy Spirit, and any other kind of love is a lie of the devil and an abomination before the Lord.
@Smalldawg17 i think you should read a history and science book then maybe you will have a clue . And since your name is small dawg does that mean your a little bitch lol i think it does . smalldawg how about growing up and stop being a little gay wacko.
Where do I start? History and science don't go very well together. And I'm guessing by your name, you are a Judeo-Christian god-follower, and in-so hate anything that the Bible hates. And I can definitely tell you're a follower, because of how quick you were to judge me. And lets stick to the issue, and stop imagining what I look like you closet faggot.
@saint27573 i wouldnt be too concerned about adhering completely to nature, its a beautiful thing but it also kills thousands of people every year in the form of tornadoes and earthquakes. etc. nature is not simple, you insult the extreme complexities of nature by claiming 'gay people are against nature'. i realise its convenient for you to categorise things in your head this way but remember you are seriously affecting others negatively with your laziness.
(cont'd): Include two additional boxes on applications such that applications read: 'single', 'divorced', 'married', 'husband', 'wife'. Gays get marriage certificates; non-gays get H&W certificates (H&W certificates are exclusively for chromosomal male and female matchups). Thus non-gays become H&W; while gays get married. Since gays like to compare themselves to Blacks, consider that USA Blacks got rights, but we did not relabel ourselves as White. Equal rights suffice. Gay can't mean H&W!!
@Smalldawg17 You may find that I am one of the few that really loves you. Anyone that takes time out to steer an individual back to safety from a path of destruction is a real friend. The person that let's one go to his destruction in order not to hurt one's feelings is no true friend and is not showing love. The things in life that helped me the most came from people who wanted to save me from myself. Warning is not 'hate'. I know that I do not hate you. You are way too important to abandon.
I have solved the gay marriage issue. Here it is, since homosexuals change the meaning of every word that they attach to themselves, it is certain that the term 'marriage' will and should connote something else once it is universally inclusive of gay unions. For the rest of us, let's take on the term 'husband & wife' for our unions and let the gays have 'marriage'. Example: ask a chromosomal male and female couple, "when did you become H & W", instead of, "when did you get married"?
I just do not understand this need people have to stigmatise people who're different for whatever reason- some people are gay, some people are bi, some people are straght- hell, some people get turned on by trucks and picket fences! How is it anyones business but theirs?
Plus he says "the union of a husband and a wife, not any one religion background or race"- bullshit! 100 years ago (or however long it was) in America you couldn't marry if you were mixed race. So change the definition again!
I just do not understand this need people have to stigmatise people who're different for whatever reason! Some people are gay, some people are bi, some people are straght- hell, some people get turned on by trucks and picket fences! How is it anyones business but theirs?
I'm an exgay man.Happily married since1996&I have2beautiful kids.I need to say tis to everyone who finds pleasure in abusing exgays…“Just as it's your rights to be gay/r whatever u want(which isn’t my business)-it's TOTALLY MY RIGHTS to be an exgay.Y can’t u respec people for what we’ve decided for OUR OWN lives.No1has forced me into the exgay lifestyle.It’s my CHOICE.Respec others IF u want to be respected!Stop bullyin people jst bcoz they r different from/refuse to believe what u believe."
@EdmundLawrenceSmith exgay happily married? I pity you. you will be unhappy for all of your life because you secretly find men attractive. Watch Brokeback Mountain ;)
So...all I heard the dude against for gay marriage say is "this is how it has been. leave it that way." I honestly did not hear any arguments as to WHY it should be that way. Also...he said "children deserve the chance to have a mother and a father." If you quoted directly he actually said "mothers and fathers"... but I'm gona assume that is a mistake. Anyway, who are you to determine what a child needs/wants?
A million or so couples not procreatinf will have NO effect on the birth rates the other 7.9 billion straight couples produce. Why can't you guys keep to your own damn business. I don't cafe who you are, mind your own and leave others alone.
Okay this is just rediculous. Really? Harmful and unproductive? We're overpopulated as is it, and no I'm not saying that we should all just stop reproducing, but come on guys the homosexual population is very small compared to hetero, and thats not even counting bisexuals in a het relationship.
@TrickTrolan thats ridiculous. then heterosexuality is a behavior and can be controlled too. I'm gay and you can do anything about it, I'm happy with it and I was born with it. :)
@shairaptor Your right heteo is a behavior also, as a LDS I choose not to have relations with a women until I'm married. I don't act out on urges just cause I have them, I learn to control them and if the urge is to strong then I ask my Heavenly Father to take them away. And He does cause I show Him faith by askin Him to do so. We ALL have the same option
If you don't want a gay marriage then don't get it, but Marriage IS whatever you make it out to be for YOURSELF.... two men marrying each other doesn't change your beliefs.
MILDRED LOVING: "I am proud that...my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That's what Loving, and loving, are all about. (2007)
CORETTA SCOTT KING: "Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood. This sets the stage for further repression and violence that spread all too easily to victimize the next minority group." (1998)
ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
In the journal of the French skeptic and essayist, Michel De Montaigne (1580-1581), he recorded Portuguese same-sex marriages celebrated in a nuptial mass in Rome: "...They married one another, male to male, at Mass, with the same ceremonies with which we perform our marriages, read the same gospel service, and then went to bed and lived together..." 1552 : In the "History of the Indies," Francisco Lopez de Gomara documents men are marrying other men in the Indies (Caribbean Islands).
ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
Also, Mayor Newsom contention's is wrong & off-base concerning not submitting the legal debate over interracial marriage to "the people". It, in fact, WAS submitted and agreed to by the majority (he simply failed to research the matter adequately). In addition, it's not as if, IR marriage has proved some big boon to blacks; given current statistics on IR marriage, it has benefited whites,asians, & hispanics more altogether. that the plaintiff was [a] black person can be viewed as coincidental.
"redefining marriage?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Hidatsa, Ojibwa, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]," a practice by many tribes.
perhaps but really the context of the discussion is ( fairly to say)the meaning. value & definition of marriage in western society .A great deal of that understanding derives from much earlier ethical and transcendent beliefs which uniquely influenced western society,culture *& institutions We know that in some societies, there is no value placed on fidelity, or technology, or food standards or progress; that doesn't make them more enlightened. Hetro.marriage benefits society & is a great advace
Nero, (1st Century AD Roman emperor) was already married to a guy named Pythagorus and became love-struck with a guy named Sporus, and married him in a public wedding.
2nd Century AD: Roman emperor Elagabalus sent out a request for a male athlete named Aurelius Zoticus, whom he later marries in a lavish ceremony.
ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
@seahorse05 you are speaking of the revered two spirits. thats what the native americans call us gays. im decendant from cherokee indians along with irish/scotish decent and they also have this tradition of two spirits getting married to each other.
get your religeon off my civil rights please for two people to get married is a wounderful happening even if it is two men or two women and children dont need a mother and a father single parents are an example of that and it isnt apple to oranges it apples to apples they both are discriminating a group of people and so your saying that some people can have multiple marriges but i cant even have one with the person i love thats wrong tryin to keep two people apart.
@Neko711anbu - no the 'common' understanding is debated and subjected to laws, societal customs, mores, values, religious understandings and values. In western societies and the US, marriage has customarily been understood as 1 MAN & 1 WOMAN for centuries. That a substantial number of people & certain groups wanted to enlarge this definition at certain times (e.g. legalization of polygamy) hasn't changed the fact that the norms and legal restrictions remain in place to this day.
i dont see why the man and woman part is necessary because if 2... TWO ... DOS ... ONE TWO (not 7 or 8) people love eachother... why the fuck does it matter if it's a man and a man or a woman and a woman.... if a CHURCH doesnt wanna marry the couple thats fine...but LEGALLY they should have rights. anything less than FULL marriage rights is discrimination (and like i said... churches have the RIGHT to dismiss same sex marriage because it is their belief) but a court... nope
@Neko711- Firstly, of the various grounds on which people oppose homosexuality, religion is not the sole or principal reason in every case (although,every monotheistic religion in history condemns that behavior). In every society laws are the combined product of socio-economic interests, morals, ethics & values.It makes no sense to insist on implementing laws which the the people consider immoral Also, do not direct comments to me if U cannot be civil and have to be obscene.- I will block U.
This is just another bump along the road to equality and civil rights. This happens repeatedly throughout our countries history. We want to think that we are all about equal rights and freedoms, but many people are opposed to letting others have the same rights as them. That is human nature I think. However, america is about equal rights. No matter how much this man opposes, it will come to pass. And after it passes there will be something new at the table.
Gay marriage will never be passed fully in America because of the filing status MFJ. Married Filing Jointly means that Married couples will get tax breaks and benefits. The government has 2 wars to fight & all the welfare programs to pay into. The government does not want to shell out more cash to the average tax payer. Gay marriage is NOT a moral issue like the media says it is!
@shieldsff that is a lie, interracial marriage was not voted on by people, the supreme court declared laws banning it as unconstitutional. and still 40% of Americans are against it.
@phantomsuccour - no it is not and I resent your accusing me of speaking lies. Why don' t you go back and spend some time researching Loving vs. Virginia and the supporting arguments. You may learn something about the legal basis for civil rights (if you read and study before making silly outbursts).
Also, Mayor Newsom contention's is wrong & off-base concerning not submitting the legal debate over interracial marriage to "the people". It, in fact, WAS submitted and agreed to by the majority (he simply failed to research the matter adequately). In addition, it's not as if, IR marriage has proved some big boon to blacks; given current statistics on IR marriage, it has benefited whites, asians, & hispanics more altogether. that the plaintiff was [a] black person can be viewed as coincidental.
also, you have offered no basis for your pre-supposition that homosexual behavior or gay marriage constitutes a civil rights or that defining it as such does, in fact, "benefit all society". By extension, in your logic, bi-sexual behavior is also a 'civil right' and bi-sexual marriage (or perhaps any form of marriage in your view) would similarly benefit society, right ? Obviously, there are tens of millions of people who would totally disagree with that claim (no doubts all bigots U think) .
It's SO stupid (and funny) how these people think the Christian-American ideology of marriage and family is so natural that anyone with "common sense" would never consider changing it. These guys need to open a history book, or take a trip around the world. Seriously.
"fundamentally redefining what marriage is?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Ojibwa, Winnebagos. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" was practiced by many tribes.
I can't believe how ignorant people can be it's like honestly?? So frustrating that people can't see that equality is still not fully fulfilled in the United States. Generations from now they will be reading about this in history books and people will think "that was so wrong that people didn't have the same rights" ughhhh frustrating.
Sanctity of Marriage: It's an illusion. Over 50% of (heterosexual!) divorce rate. Call that sacred again - not. Insanity. Eat your heart out haters. And grow up for once.
I can't help but think when people refer to "these people" like the other um, I can only think about how minorities were treated during and before the civil rights era where blacks, jews, hispanics, etc... were considered "these people" "coloreds" and so on and classified as not part of regular society or even a person. When blacks first had the right to vote 1 man didn't count as 1 vote, it took 3 more black men to count as one vote. Gay marriage should be allowed, what's the big deal?
Marriage "redefined?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Hidatsa, Ojibwa, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" --a practice by many tribes.
" Redefining marriage?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Ojibwas, Winnebagos, Yumas and Timucuas. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" --a practice by many nations.
Brian Brown is an idiot. He doesnt know anything about Marriage or how to define it. Marriage was around waaaaay before Judeo-Christianity yet jackholes like this think they have some sort of monopoly on it. ...
I bet Brians ass-ramming skills are top-notch though.
Boycott California and destroy their economy even further if the supreme court doesn't give gay people what they want. Play hard ball and kill the jobs on the state level, then let's see the wise people of California back track. It would take very little right now to put them in their place. People understand one thing and one thing ONLY, MONEY! You'd be suprised how much havoc you could wreak on the selfishness of that state. DON'T PLAY FAIR!!! it's unbecoming and naive!
I heard a gay person being interviewed and they were asked why they thought gays should be able to marry and they said what they all say (it should be our equal right to marry) they were then asked about poligimy and they said that poligimy was wrong. Tells me that most gays are just looking for a reason to bitch cause that is what bicthes do.
Ban gay marriage now.God shall not be mocked.Gavin Newsom has sinned away his day of grace.God bless Brian Brown for speaking the truth,Praise God.Remeber vote Bible in 2010 & 2012 !
@MeTaLiXe in fact two male lions ARE fucking together. even as we speak in the nature. because it IS nature. women are boring to me, theyre unattractive. :P
@michaelaganoe We will boycott California and DESTROY the economy if our DEMANDS! are not met. The supreme court SHALL OBEY what it has always obeyed, MONEY! Seems like that's what America's all about anyway. Oh, and by the way michaelaganoe You're a FAG and your supreme hatred of gay people is a tip off.
@michaelaganoe The california economy is already in dire straights all we need to do is spend our money elsewhere and we could break that state in less than a month.
@michaelaganoe Actually, the right wing child molesters are the problem. You're PRO-PEDOPHILE agenda is glaringly clear to the American public who now despises the republitard party and their association with religious right wing CHILD MOLESTERS. RIGHT WING = CHILD MOLESTERS(PROVEN FACT) FBI stats don't lie. Most child molesters come from right wing evangelical families. Shame on you and your lust for little boys. We will conquer you by exposing your perversions.
@michaelaganoe The catholic church itself is the gift that keeps on giving and by that I mean it never runs out of sex scandals involving YOU and your kind in a public bathroom with a little boy.Yes, we are aware of your PERVERSIONS and lust for innocent flesh. You will pay dearly for your sins against nature and God. Judging gay people is the reason you have fallen out of favor with God to beging with. He is exposing your hypocrisy and catching you with your pants down. Yes, we will expose you.
@michaelaganoe No actually, I don't know that. What I do know is that you are WICKED and you shall be PUNISHED for your lust of innocent flesh. I know what evil is in your heart you PERVERT! God is on OUR SIDE not yours. I know he is and you can't say the same because you are DESPISED as the wicked should be. You are a liar and a filthy ABOMINATION and you will pay dearly for your sins. I have already exposed you right here on this channel and have been VICTORIOUS as good is in the end.
@michaelaganoe Most experts agree, those who hate people who are gay are probably closeted homosexuals themselves. I am MORALLY SUPERIOR in every way shape and form to you. You are GARBAGE and TRASH despised by GOD AND MAN. You are a stinking pervert who deserves DEATH as a punishment for your sins. You will PAY DEARLY for your disgusting perversions. You are a FAGGOT if ever there was one.
@michaelaganoe ATTENTION!!! michaelaganoe is a HYPOCRITICAL HOMO who deserves the ultimate punishment for his transgression against God and nature. He supports the PRO-PEDOPHILE agenda of the PERVERTED RIGHT WING CHILD MOLESTERS. If you know who is then use extreme measures to bring him to justice if neccessary.
@michaelaganoe You're sickness is apparent and I seek only to bring you and wickedness to justice. However that may take place I am certain that God is on MY SIDE and not yours. You are a disgusting child molesting pervert and that is something you just can't lie about. I know your wicked heart and it's pitch black perversions. You will be judged and not just by man. You want to screw with me some more you PERVERT?
@michaelaganoe Come on pussy! Bring on the fight! I've got nothing but GOD ALL MIGHTY and his wrath on loan. You want to challenge GOD? BRING IT ON!!! You foul smelling child, molesting demon from perdition! I KNOW YOU DEVIL and in the end you end up in the lake of fire!
@michaelaganoe WATCH THE DEMON RUNAWAY FROM THE LIGHT! He doesn't have God on his side so IT runs away from a righteous battle. I WIN!!! YOU LOSE!!! as all the perverts do in the end.
Another so-called "news" story that neglects to tell you that the Judge.....the solitary man that made this decision......is one of the few openly Gay judges at this level in America. So yeah.....the Gay guy.....handed down a Gay opinion. Whoop-Di-Doo.
......ok so i guess i didn't get the memo...single parents can't raise children now...hmm weird....if a single mother can raise a child then how is two mothers worse? i guess i just must be stupid or something....
This is just like when blacks used to get buried in separate cemeteries. Does it really effect anyone where they get buried? Does it make a difference if they get buried next to everyone else? No, but it just happened to rub the majority of the wrong way.
This is a stupid issue based on people disliking faggots and faggotry. This is not an argument based on evidence, social implications, etc.
Apparently, we all need to follow Mr. Brown's ideals due to the fact that he knows some pretty influencial people. I mean, he knows PASTORS from the good 'ol days of slavery? I suppose he rides a cotton gin to his temple every sunday. Mr. Brown is so right though. I mean, marriage has always been about love and never about the exchange of property, right? Next, we're going to attack the concept of divorce and how it NEVER happens in modern times. Oh wait...
Stupid idiot cannot see what is fundamentally right but stuck on to fucking stone-age selfish theories of living and the best joke is trying to justify his stupidity.Stupid idiot cannot see what is fundamentally right but stuck on to fucking stone-age selfish theories of living and the best joke is trying to justify his stupidity.
well, of course! you don't have to want a gay marriage in order to realize that everyone should have the right to get married. Live and let live... gays don't harm you or affect your life, so don't harm or affect theirs. Let them love, and let them legally recognize and protect that love. If you're a fair person, I'm sure you agree.
@ScienceReasonBelief if they were allowed they wouldnt have a right. theyd have a special right. Once, gay marriage would be allowed it would be put in the school books and show the children things that shouldnt be.
Not true. If gays are allowed to marry, EVERYONE would have the right to a gay marriage. No one would have more rights than anyone else, so why are you talking about a "special right"?
You said it "shows the children things that shouldnt be". Isn't school where kids learn about how the world is? What happens when a kid comes to school who has two dads, or two moms? Aren't the other kids going to find out about gay marriage anyhow? So much better to have a teacher explain it!
@ScienceReasonBelief yes but not everyone wants to be gay and not everyone even likes gays. They spread disease 5 times more then straights as well anyway
You have to be gay or even like gays to realize that everyone deserves the same rights. Gays can't marry who they love and have their families protected. That's wrong.
What's also wrong is your claim that gays spread disease 5 time more than heteros. What is your evidence of that? Per the World Health Organization, there are far more HETEROS with HIV/AIDS than gays. Even if your claim WAS true, that STILL doesn't mean they shouldn't have equal rights!
Why can't we treat fairly those who wish to engage in polygamous or bigamous relationships? Gavin Newsom is being a hypocrite about the subject of marriage, because marriage rights have been to denied to these people as well since the 1850's. The government should not be in the business of defining marriage.
You know, thats the same thing they said about interracial couples. A man can't help his race, and three people can't help being three people. So to stop polygamy and such, we better not change tradition, and keep the traditional: one man, one woman, same race, same caste definition of marriage in place forever...
...because if other forms of marriage are legal...we'll all die! (right?)
blitz - Fact and science my ass. If there was so much evidence out there than there would be no debate. Which there still clearly is. Gays are gays the same reason a stripper is a stripper.
"If there was so much evidence out there than there would be no debate." There isn't any debate. There aren't any medical or psychological organizations that believe that being gay is a choice. None at all. There is an obvious consensus among professionals: being gay is normal, natural, and innate.
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Those same professionals who not that long ago called homosexuality a mental illness? There's also the existance of ex-gays. Please don't try to act like this is something that in all circles has been a forgone conclusion.
Homosexuality is no longer a mental illness for a reason-- the American Psychological Association determined that there was no evidence supporting this idea. Don't discount new advances in an area of science because of past ignorance. That's like arguing that discoveries in geology are worthless because people used to believe that the Earth was flat.
Yeah I wouldn't compare the APA to scientists. They are notoriously liberally biased and how much trust can you put in an organization that seems to invent a new disorder everyday.
The American Psychological Association is certainly an organization of scientists; psychology is, after all, a scientific field. You may wish to marginalize them by declaring them "liberally biased", but where is your empirical evidence of this? Oh, that's right, you have none. You believe them to be "liberally biased" because the scientific data they cite directly contradicts your beliefs about human sexuality.
Galieo was a liberal too. Better throw out all of his ideas about the universe too.
What does 'seems to invent a new disorder everyday' mean? Seems to who? You?
Can you explain the absolute worst scenario caused in any location by legal gay marriage? Keep in mind, tobacco use is legal for consumers, even though it often kills the consumer. So your worst case scenario has to be a bigger threat than death itself. Good luck.
religion is against nature.
dillydefect 1 week ago
I'm baffeled that dumbs shits think there is some trade mark on marriage I was brought up to think marriage was between 2 loving consenting adults no matter what there race,gender,nationality or religion its something to help love blossom
1997seanmac 1 week ago
I haven't commented on this in years. It's good to see that a comment I made so long ago is still encouraging ppl to think! Well done all! My views still haven't changed much. People often hate loaded questions that force them to think outside of their own small understanding. But the facts are simple: In millions of years their has been no manifestion of a new sex. We are still created male and female! So I still believe there are no grounds for homosexual saying they are born that way.
Dizzystill 5 months ago
@Dizzystill You said, "So I still believe there are no grounds for homosexual saying they are born that way." Prove it. Also, when did you "choose" your sexual orientation(gay,lesbian,bi,straight)? What was your sexual orientation 5 minutes before you made your choice? Since you "believe," with no evidence that gay people "choose" to have a gay sexual orientation, then you are admitting from your own experience that you are gay or bi, therefore you are choosing to suppress your real feelings?
seahorse05 4 months ago
Interracial marriage is not the same as same-sex marriage. Comparing sex to race is like comparing apples to oranges. Gavin Newsome just doesn't get it.
1RedshirtXLG 5 months ago
All I am saying is that if you care that much about what your money unknowingly supports then you should never ever pay for anything. Even the money you pay for groceries at a market trickle their way into the pay checks on millions. Heaven's to betsy for all you know your money could be supporting a movement that wants to teach that popular language from star treck in schools! lets be sure not to live so that others can't support something we are against!
knowamericaknowbible 5 months ago
was the waitress and the man who worked in the theater that were forced to resign from their jobs treated fairly? Basically socriety decided they didn't like that they supported prop 8 with their hard earned money. It was as if those who ate at the el cyote restaraunt felt responsible just because the money in which they paid for their meal trickled its way through the system into this waitress's pay check. cnt.
knowamericaknowbible 5 months ago
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Arcanetheory7 6 months ago
my brain is full of fuck after listening to these religious assholes.
yashaazz 6 months ago
Gay marriage is an oxymoron there are no complementarities to merge together, not physical or psychological. Legalizing Gay Marriage would also legally persecute anyone who would disagree with the ruling. If Christian’s parents want to pull their kids from a public school event that promotes homosexuality they will no longer have the CHOICE to do so, their rights will be gone!
teton99 6 months ago
Are all these people who are anti gay marriage trolling? Or are they just REALLY stupid? I can hardly tell anymore.
GenericFurfag 6 months ago
Why do liberals always compare civil rights(race) to homosexual marriage rights? And at the same time keep a straight face like they think they won the argument, its so damn disgusting! God damn, so many retards live in this country and its scary.
luckyStrike89ru 6 months ago
If God created Gays He would have created them without the endowments of sperm & eggs. Lesbians wouldn't have a uterus nor milk ducts. A gay man's rectum would be able to lubricate on its own.
Trust in Jesus. Read His word. He will lead you to the light.
Pacifica74 6 months ago
@Pacifica74 being a gay person is not all about sex it is so much more than that it is so ignorant for people to think that way it is all about LOVE nothing else
tcatn0c 6 months ago
@tcatn0c When God says no, it is because He loves us too much for us to go down the wrong path. What one might view as love, God might view as sin. For example, two heteros having an adulterous affair. They would claim it is all about love too. We just have to love and trust our Creator, even when His answer is no.
Pacifica74 6 months ago
@Pacifica74 did you know that god is everything and everyone around us including you and me everything is litterally one we are all god we are everything we are conected with everyone and everything so there's never been a separation between anything or anyone and there will never be a separation separation = illusion
and I do not " view as love" I feel LOVE I feel it in my soul and in my heart not in my view and what I feel does not harm anyone physicall nor does it harm anyones feelings
tcatn0c 6 months ago
@tcatn0c What you've described is a Pantheistic belief system. It isn't valid as you've created a god to suit your ideals. It's a violation of the first commandment.
With regard to feeling emotions, they often mislead us.
Pacifica74 6 months ago
@Pacifica74 a Pantheistic belief actually makes a lot of sense if you are an open minded person. I've created a god to suit my ideals? OK! look who's talking you are doing the exact same thing my friend. hmm? so if I violate the first commandment I am going to hell hmm? hey did somebody say scare tactics? and to let you know I am not going to let fear control me I don't practice fear I practice LOVE.
how can feeling LOVE mislead? are you serious?
tcatn0c 6 months ago
@tcatn0c 1COR3:19 "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God."
How can feeling love mislead..again my example "two people having an adulterous affair".
Pacifica74 6 months ago
@Pacifica74 For you are a slave to a book that you don't even know who wrote it and I know you are going to say "god wrote the bible" but come on get real that book was writen by Homophobic, Genophobic, ignorant, narrow minded control freaks.
your example for "How can feeling love mislead" isn't valid because Affairs inevitably hurt someone, Someone ALWAYS Gets Hurt With an Affair. So being gay has nothing in common with having an affair a gay relationship does not hurt anyone in any way.
tcatn0c 6 months ago
@tcatn0c Beastiality, Necrophilia, Polygamy...technically no one is hurting anyone but it doesn't make it right. These are called 'vile affections' along with being listed with homosexuality.
Pacifica74 6 months ago
@Pacifica74 Beastiality is a mental disorder, Necrophilia is also a mental disorder. An animal cannot consent into sexual activity with a human being, and in some cases animals are abused so obviously someone does get hurt. Necrophilia same thing a dead body cannot consent into sexual activity with someone. In most cases the body is sexually abused by the murderer obviously someone does get hurt the victim and the family. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder nor a vile affection sorry! =)
tcatn0c 5 months ago
@tcatn0c What you call mental disorders are really evil desires. Homosexuality appears to be a victimless, but it is still sexually immoral. God is not a liar and if you disagree with Him, you are calling Him one.
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tcatn0c 5 months ago
@Pacifica74 They are mental disorders and like I said Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. I see that we are starting to agree that Homosexuality is harmless. I have mentioned that being a gay person is not all about sex its so much more than just sex its really more about love. Sexuall morality sex is a good thing it doesnt matter if its gay or straight sex as long as its Consensual sex, legal and as long as its not a sexual affair. Im calling the guys who wrote the bible liars not God.
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@tcatn0c "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." 1 COR 6:18
Appearances are deceiving - especially to those who love their sin.
Don't shoot the messenger. This is the Word of God (and all those He inspired to write it).
Pacifica74 5 months ago
@Pacifica74 I hope you're sustaining your opinions on scientific fact. Mental disorders have been studied and documented thoroughly. Sex and morality are two different things, and as the Bible could consider sex during menstruation or pregnancy to be aberrant (not immoral), this society has already altered our manifestations of morality to be more suitable for our times.
sunsensations 1 month ago
@sunsensations I'm basing my opinions on the One who created everything, Lord Jesus Christ. He said homosexual activity is sinning against your own body. That it's shameful. Sex is the expression of carnal passion. Sex in itself is not evil. It's where and on whome we place our affections that makes it immoral or not.
Pacifica74 4 weeks ago
Now does Brian Brown have the face of a bigot?
You betcha!
Pilgrim812 6 months ago
I wonder if christians obsess about what is going on in their bed as much as in mine.
CanTake8 7 months ago
@CanTake8 No, we honestly don't care, but what we do care about is our sons and daughters growing up in a world was homosexually which is the exact opposite of heterosexuality being legalized. Do you not know what that means. We are not talking about the present, we are talking about the future. Heterosexual=reproduction, Homosexual=no reproduction. Do you know what that means when homosexuality spreads? It's honestly common sense. You do get it, you just refuse to accept it like the rest.
circablonk 6 months ago
@circablonk That's the same rationale used by the Nazis to institute Paragraph 175 criminalizing homosexuality among men. Lesbians could be forced to bear children for the homeland, but gay men didn't contribute.
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Homosexuality is a mental illness and it needs to be classified as such. Many Jews are promoting homosexuality. The Jews of today are imposters. They are not God's chosen people. The true Jew is the "Black man" of the African continent. Jews are parading around the world pretending to be God's chosen people, when God's chosen people are under their 'feet". Would God choose a people like these Jews who are blood-suckers of the poor, murderers, liars, thieves, and promoters of homosexuality? No.
MsPamAnn 7 months ago
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@lisashaye prove its something you are born with
idaman12345 7 months ago
@idaman12345 you are full of shit dont try to sell your ignorance to me .
saint27573 7 months ago
@saint27573 if i was selling ignorance id agree
but im just spreading the truth
idaman12345 7 months ago
@Smalldawg17 i think your confusing the christianity with another religion , last time i checked the bible doesnt teach its followers to hate anybody. second before i ever became a christian i didnt like stupid people and even to this day i still have a dislike for stupid people . last but not least you know nothing about history of science so shut up !
saint27573 8 months ago
the fact is is that homosexuality is more of a spirtitual disease than a physical disease. its a sexual weakness maybe some have been born with but most have developed throughout their life. Its a weakness that should be cured and is just the same as an old man who has a weakness for wanting to have sex with little children. i child molester. thats how sick this disease is. It is very clear in the bible that homosexuality is wrong but the gay community just doesnt want to see or admit that
jhendrickson300 8 months ago
@jhendrickson300 just because the bible says homosexuality is wrong, how do you know thats even Gods word? Men wrote the bible based on Gods teaching, How do you know thats Gods word for sure? how do you know that men did not throw the issue in there for what ever of their reason? Why would the Lord hate homosexuality?
mosstick 7 months ago
@mosstick well lets see.. the fact is is it says in the bible that God destroyed a whole city, Sodom, becuz they were practicing homosexuality.. also the bible is not just men writing "based on Gods teaching", it is a divinely inspired book and should be treated as such. Basically it is God speaking through man to the rest of mankind. God sanctified marriage between a MAN and WOMAN, not woman and woman or man and man, becuz it would go against what God stands for and He does not contradict himse
jhendrickson300 7 months ago
@mosstick lf. the Lord hates sin. not the sinners themselves, but yes he does hate homosexuality, this i know becuz it is an abomination against mankind. woman were created so that MAN would not be lonely, and for the procreation of mankind. True love is the love of God and the Holy Spirit, and any other kind of love is a lie of the devil and an abomination before the Lord.
jhendrickson300 7 months ago
Stupid people hate the LGBT community. I feel so sorry for them.
DJLunasf 8 months ago
@Smalldawg17 i think you should read a history and science book then maybe you will have a clue . And since your name is small dawg does that mean your a little bitch lol i think it does . smalldawg how about growing up and stop being a little gay wacko.
saint27573 8 months ago
Where do I start? History and science don't go very well together. And I'm guessing by your name, you are a Judeo-Christian god-follower, and in-so hate anything that the Bible hates. And I can definitely tell you're a follower, because of how quick you were to judge me. And lets stick to the issue, and stop imagining what I look like you closet faggot.
Smalldawg17 8 months ago
marriage is the union of two people who love each other. there, simple as that.
two people love each other? cool.
Ang3l4life93x 8 months ago
gays goes against nature ! gays are sick people i know i not going to get alot of nice comments for saying it but it is the truth ! its not natural !
saint27573 8 months ago
@saint27573 i wouldnt be too concerned about adhering completely to nature, its a beautiful thing but it also kills thousands of people every year in the form of tornadoes and earthquakes. etc. nature is not simple, you insult the extreme complexities of nature by claiming 'gay people are against nature'. i realise its convenient for you to categorise things in your head this way but remember you are seriously affecting others negatively with your laziness.
quillber 8 months ago 5
@saint27573 You should read a science book.
Smalldawg17 8 months ago
@saint27573 that is not truthful
homophobia is not natural
homosexuality is
idaman12345 7 months ago 2
I have a better idea, let's just call same-sexmarriages "buttbuddies" from now on :)
GTA4Kings 8 months ago
(cont'd): Include two additional boxes on applications such that applications read: 'single', 'divorced', 'married', 'husband', 'wife'. Gays get marriage certificates; non-gays get H&W certificates (H&W certificates are exclusively for chromosomal male and female matchups). Thus non-gays become H&W; while gays get married. Since gays like to compare themselves to Blacks, consider that USA Blacks got rights, but we did not relabel ourselves as White. Equal rights suffice. Gay can't mean H&W!!
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
@Sensiblehuman You should have just saved your time and say you hate gays.
Smalldawg17 8 months ago
@Smalldawg17 You may find that I am one of the few that really loves you. Anyone that takes time out to steer an individual back to safety from a path of destruction is a real friend. The person that let's one go to his destruction in order not to hurt one's feelings is no true friend and is not showing love. The things in life that helped me the most came from people who wanted to save me from myself. Warning is not 'hate'. I know that I do not hate you. You are way too important to abandon.
Sensiblehuman 8 months ago
@Sensiblehuman Did I ever say I was gay?
Smalldawg17 8 months ago
I have solved the gay marriage issue. Here it is, since homosexuals change the meaning of every word that they attach to themselves, it is certain that the term 'marriage' will and should connote something else once it is universally inclusive of gay unions. For the rest of us, let's take on the term 'husband & wife' for our unions and let the gays have 'marriage'. Example: ask a chromosomal male and female couple, "when did you become H & W", instead of, "when did you get married"?
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
I just do not understand this need people have to stigmatise people who're different for whatever reason- some people are gay, some people are bi, some people are straght- hell, some people get turned on by trucks and picket fences! How is it anyones business but theirs?
Plus he says "the union of a husband and a wife, not any one religion background or race"- bullshit! 100 years ago (or however long it was) in America you couldn't marry if you were mixed race. So change the definition again!
ginagirl123123 9 months ago
I just do not understand this need people have to stigmatise people who're different for whatever reason! Some people are gay, some people are bi, some people are straght- hell, some people get turned on by trucks and picket fences! How is it anyones business but theirs?
ginagirl123123 9 months ago
I'm an exgay man.Happily married since1996&I have2beautiful kids.I need to say tis to everyone who finds pleasure in abusing exgays…“Just as it's your rights to be gay/r whatever u want(which isn’t my business)-it's TOTALLY MY RIGHTS to be an exgay.Y can’t u respec people for what we’ve decided for OUR OWN lives.No1has forced me into the exgay lifestyle.It’s my CHOICE.Respec others IF u want to be respected!Stop bullyin people jst bcoz they r different from/refuse to believe what u believe."
EdmundLawrenceSmith 10 months ago
@EdmundLawrenceSmith exgay happily married? I pity you. you will be unhappy for all of your life because you secretly find men attractive. Watch Brokeback Mountain ;)
shairaptor 10 months ago
So...all I heard the dude against for gay marriage say is "this is how it has been. leave it that way." I honestly did not hear any arguments as to WHY it should be that way. Also...he said "children deserve the chance to have a mother and a father." If you quoted directly he actually said "mothers and fathers"... but I'm gona assume that is a mistake. Anyway, who are you to determine what a child needs/wants?
Soren470 10 months ago
A million or so couples not procreatinf will have NO effect on the birth rates the other 7.9 billion straight couples produce. Why can't you guys keep to your own damn business. I don't cafe who you are, mind your own and leave others alone.
Silverheartpro 10 months ago
Okay this is just rediculous. Really? Harmful and unproductive? We're overpopulated as is it, and no I'm not saying that we should all just stop reproducing, but come on guys the homosexual population is very small compared to hetero, and thats not even counting bisexuals in a het relationship.
Silverheartpro 10 months ago
Crowds and mobs cannot change what God has declared to be wrong, period
Homosexuality is a behavior and behavior can be controlled.
TrickTrolan 10 months ago 2
@TrickTrolan
Exactly. And besides, homosexuality is harmful and unproductive.
The bottom line is: Heterosexuality > Homosexuality
It's really not that hard of an idea to grasp..
7ees 10 months ago
@7ees actually heterosexuality = homosexuality
not greater than
idaman12345 9 months ago
@idaman12345 False, Bisexuality > Homosexuality or Heterosexuality. :PP!
Kevstar19 9 months ago
@TrickTrolan thats ridiculous. then heterosexuality is a behavior and can be controlled too. I'm gay and you can do anything about it, I'm happy with it and I was born with it. :)
shairaptor 10 months ago
@shairaptor Your right heteo is a behavior also, as a LDS I choose not to have relations with a women until I'm married. I don't act out on urges just cause I have them, I learn to control them and if the urge is to strong then I ask my Heavenly Father to take them away. And He does cause I show Him faith by askin Him to do so. We ALL have the same option
TrickTrolan 10 months ago 2
@TrickTrolan Can you please explain to me how is Homosexuality "a behavior" ...what behavior? And what did God declare wrong?
NativeNewYorkGuy 9 months ago
Gavin Newsom is def comparing apples to oranges and it is a faulty comparison
funk7000 10 months ago
If you don't want a gay marriage then don't get it, but Marriage IS whatever you make it out to be for YOURSELF.... two men marrying each other doesn't change your beliefs.
wetdream09 11 months ago
MILDRED LOVING: "I am proud that...my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That's what Loving, and loving, are all about. (2007)
HollywoodHillsCookie 11 months ago
CORETTA SCOTT KING: "Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood. This sets the stage for further repression and violence that spread all too easily to victimize the next minority group." (1998)
HollywoodHillsCookie 11 months ago 2
@HollywoodHillsCookie that is a really illogical quote haha. it doesn't really make sense.
BucketPukes1969 11 months ago
@BucketPukes1969
To a second grader, it might be "illogical"...Would you care to expand on what it is about it you don't understand?
HollywoodHillsCookie 11 months ago
So he's sure gay marriage shouldn't be equated with the civil rights movement, or the 1960's fight against anti-miscegenation laws?
Should we believe HIM, or the plaintiff from "Loving v. Virginia"? HIM, or Coretta Scott King? Both disagree with him...and I'd call them experts.
HollywoodHillsCookie 11 months ago
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shieldsff 11 months ago
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ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
shieldsff 11 months ago
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ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
shieldsff 11 months ago
In the journal of the French skeptic and essayist, Michel De Montaigne (1580-1581), he recorded Portuguese same-sex marriages celebrated in a nuptial mass in Rome: "...They married one another, male to male, at Mass, with the same ceremonies with which we perform our marriages, read the same gospel service, and then went to bed and lived together..." 1552 : In the "History of the Indies," Francisco Lopez de Gomara documents men are marrying other men in the Indies (Caribbean Islands).
seahorse05 11 months ago 4
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ok, wow- now there's a perfect example of domestic tranquility & moral beacon- Nero ?!? Nero- that psychopathic, murderous,raving lunatic?!? Did you maybe mean Marcus Aurelius? Oh, I forgot, he was a moral enlightened man&warrior with a FEMALE spouse.Nero -I have nothing more to say sorry. Again,I am not disputing there was homosexuality & 'gay marriage' in Roman/Greek society. Rather, that this & other illicit practices fell into disrepute w/the rise of civilization. Exceptions are not proof.
shieldsff 11 months ago
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Also, Mayor Newsom contention's is wrong & off-base concerning not submitting the legal debate over interracial marriage to "the people". It, in fact, WAS submitted and agreed to by the majority (he simply failed to research the matter adequately). In addition, it's not as if, IR marriage has proved some big boon to blacks; given current statistics on IR marriage, it has benefited whites,asians, & hispanics more altogether. that the plaintiff was [a] black person can be viewed as coincidental.
shieldsff 11 months ago
"redefining marriage?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Hidatsa, Ojibwa, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]," a practice by many tribes.
seahorse05 11 months ago 20
perhaps but really the context of the discussion is ( fairly to say)the meaning. value & definition of marriage in western society .A great deal of that understanding derives from much earlier ethical and transcendent beliefs which uniquely influenced western society,culture *& institutions We know that in some societies, there is no value placed on fidelity, or technology, or food standards or progress; that doesn't make them more enlightened. Hetro.marriage benefits society & is a great advace
shieldsff 11 months ago
Nero, (1st Century AD Roman emperor) was already married to a guy named Pythagorus and became love-struck with a guy named Sporus, and married him in a public wedding.
2nd Century AD: Roman emperor Elagabalus sent out a request for a male athlete named Aurelius Zoticus, whom he later marries in a lavish ceremony.
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shieldsff 11 months ago
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shieldsff 11 months ago
@seahorse05 The Roman people hated Nero.
firesidechet 8 months ago
@seahorse05 you are speaking of the revered two spirits. thats what the native americans call us gays. im decendant from cherokee indians along with irish/scotish decent and they also have this tradition of two spirits getting married to each other.
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vechorik 3 months ago
"What not three or four?" Bitch, there's people already onto their 7th spouse. Shut the fuck up.
DailyDrewski 1 year ago
The fat one is homophobic because he is afraid of himself.
ghostielocks 1 year ago
get your religeon off my civil rights please for two people to get married is a wounderful happening even if it is two men or two women and children dont need a mother and a father single parents are an example of that and it isnt apple to oranges it apples to apples they both are discriminating a group of people and so your saying that some people can have multiple marriges but i cant even have one with the person i love thats wrong tryin to keep two people apart.
xXBaconHawkTammerXx 1 year ago
the common understanding of marriage is ... 2 PEOPLE love eachother ...GET MARRIED... that is the COMMON understanding of marriage >.>
Neko711anbu 1 year ago
@Neko711anbu - no the 'common' understanding is debated and subjected to laws, societal customs, mores, values, religious understandings and values. In western societies and the US, marriage has customarily been understood as 1 MAN & 1 WOMAN for centuries. That a substantial number of people & certain groups wanted to enlarge this definition at certain times (e.g. legalization of polygamy) hasn't changed the fact that the norms and legal restrictions remain in place to this day.
shieldsff 11 months ago
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i dont see why the man and woman part is necessary because if 2... TWO ... DOS ... ONE TWO (not 7 or 8) people love eachother... why the fuck does it matter if it's a man and a man or a woman and a woman.... if a CHURCH doesnt wanna marry the couple thats fine...but LEGALLY they should have rights. anything less than FULL marriage rights is discrimination (and like i said... churches have the RIGHT to dismiss same sex marriage because it is their belief) but a court... nope
Neko711anbu 11 months ago
@Neko711- Firstly, of the various grounds on which people oppose homosexuality, religion is not the sole or principal reason in every case (although,every monotheistic religion in history condemns that behavior). In every society laws are the combined product of socio-economic interests, morals, ethics & values.It makes no sense to insist on implementing laws which the the people consider immoral Also, do not direct comments to me if U cannot be civil and have to be obscene.- I will block U.
shieldsff 11 months ago
@shieldsff lol u sure told me.
Neko711anbu 11 months ago
"Why not three, or four?" What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Tazn0x 1 year ago
This is just another bump along the road to equality and civil rights. This happens repeatedly throughout our countries history. We want to think that we are all about equal rights and freedoms, but many people are opposed to letting others have the same rights as them. That is human nature I think. However, america is about equal rights. No matter how much this man opposes, it will come to pass. And after it passes there will be something new at the table.
tfavors28 1 year ago
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Gay marriage will never be passed fully in America because of the filing status MFJ. Married Filing Jointly means that Married couples will get tax breaks and benefits. The government has 2 wars to fight & all the welfare programs to pay into. The government does not want to shell out more cash to the average tax payer. Gay marriage is NOT a moral issue like the media says it is!
JAtria 1 year ago
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shieldsff 1 year ago
@shieldsff that is a lie, interracial marriage was not voted on by people, the supreme court declared laws banning it as unconstitutional. and still 40% of Americans are against it.
phantomsuccour 11 months ago
@phantomsuccour - no it is not and I resent your accusing me of speaking lies. Why don' t you go back and spend some time researching Loving vs. Virginia and the supporting arguments. You may learn something about the legal basis for civil rights (if you read and study before making silly outbursts).
shieldsff 11 months ago
@phantomsuccour - in any case 'race' is nothing like sexual orientation/behavior.
shieldsff 11 months ago
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Also, Mayor Newsom contention's is wrong & off-base concerning not submitting the legal debate over interracial marriage to "the people". It, in fact, WAS submitted and agreed to by the majority (he simply failed to research the matter adequately). In addition, it's not as if, IR marriage has proved some big boon to blacks; given current statistics on IR marriage, it has benefited whites, asians, & hispanics more altogether. that the plaintiff was [a] black person can be viewed as coincidental.
shieldsff 1 year ago
also, you have offered no basis for your pre-supposition that homosexual behavior or gay marriage constitutes a civil rights or that defining it as such does, in fact, "benefit all society". By extension, in your logic, bi-sexual behavior is also a 'civil right' and bi-sexual marriage (or perhaps any form of marriage in your view) would similarly benefit society, right ? Obviously, there are tens of millions of people who would totally disagree with that claim (no doubts all bigots U think) .
shieldsff 1 year ago
It's SO stupid (and funny) how these people think the Christian-American ideology of marriage and family is so natural that anyone with "common sense" would never consider changing it. These guys need to open a history book, or take a trip around the world. Seriously.
Clearie552 1 year ago
"fundamentally redefining what marriage is?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Ojibwa, Winnebagos. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" was practiced by many tribes.
seahorse05 1 year ago
I love at the end how he says that interacial marriage is different, for a second, he smiled as if he just had realized what he had said.
mmaaxx1198 1 year ago
I can't believe how ignorant people can be it's like honestly?? So frustrating that people can't see that equality is still not fully fulfilled in the United States. Generations from now they will be reading about this in history books and people will think "that was so wrong that people didn't have the same rights" ughhhh frustrating.
hottamalae 1 year ago
@hottamalae All we can hope for is that people continue to educate themselves and realize that being gay is sort of a "non issue"
JustBreath24 1 year ago
@JustBreath24 Yeah, but then there are the people who do not want to educate themselves.
hottamalae 1 year ago
Sanctity of Marriage: It's an illusion. Over 50% of (heterosexual!) divorce rate. Call that sacred again - not. Insanity. Eat your heart out haters. And grow up for once.
shairaptor 1 year ago
I can't help but think when people refer to "these people" like the other um, I can only think about how minorities were treated during and before the civil rights era where blacks, jews, hispanics, etc... were considered "these people" "coloreds" and so on and classified as not part of regular society or even a person. When blacks first had the right to vote 1 man didn't count as 1 vote, it took 3 more black men to count as one vote. Gay marriage should be allowed, what's the big deal?
ERAUPRCWA 1 year ago
Marriage "redefined?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Hidatsa, Ojibwa, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" --a practice by many tribes.
seahorse05 1 year ago
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" Redefining marriage?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Some examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Ojibwas, Winnebagos, Yumas and Timucuas. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" --a practice by many nations.
seahorse05 1 year ago
Brian Brown is an idiot. He doesnt know anything about Marriage or how to define it. Marriage was around waaaaay before Judeo-Christianity yet jackholes like this think they have some sort of monopoly on it. ...
I bet Brians ass-ramming skills are top-notch though.
xD
torrentANONYMOUScodc 1 year ago
Boycott California and destroy their economy even further if the supreme court doesn't give gay people what they want. Play hard ball and kill the jobs on the state level, then let's see the wise people of California back track. It would take very little right now to put them in their place. People understand one thing and one thing ONLY, MONEY! You'd be suprised how much havoc you could wreak on the selfishness of that state. DON'T PLAY FAIR!!! it's unbecoming and naive!
taosimplicity 1 year ago
I heard a gay person being interviewed and they were asked why they thought gays should be able to marry and they said what they all say (it should be our equal right to marry) they were then asked about poligimy and they said that poligimy was wrong. Tells me that most gays are just looking for a reason to bitch cause that is what bicthes do.
doonesberry 1 year ago
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Ban gay marriage now.God shall not be mocked.Gavin Newsom has sinned away his day of grace.God bless Brian Brown for speaking the truth,Praise God.Remeber vote Bible in 2010 & 2012 !
Have a blessed and most holy day.
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
fuck all gays! don't ever come near me.. LOL
imagine a male lion fucking a male lion hahahah
humans are disgusting a porno movie is ok.. but GAY IN REAL? get a fucking life.. they don't get women so they go after the men
MeTaLiXe 1 year ago
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@MeTaLiXe why dont you get a life
gay people are real
and they are born that way they dont become that way
idaman12345 1 year ago
@MeTaLiXe what?
ERAUPRCWA 1 year ago
@MeTaLiXe gay lions exists and are very sexy. girls are unsexy and fishy vaginas disgust me. gays for. the. WIN!. =)
shairaptor 1 year ago
@MeTaLiXe in fact two male lions ARE fucking together. even as we speak in the nature. because it IS nature. women are boring to me, theyre unattractive. :P
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
@michaelaganoe We will boycott California and DESTROY the economy if our DEMANDS! are not met. The supreme court SHALL OBEY what it has always obeyed, MONEY! Seems like that's what America's all about anyway. Oh, and by the way michaelaganoe You're a FAG and your supreme hatred of gay people is a tip off.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
@michaelaganoe The california economy is already in dire straights all we need to do is spend our money elsewhere and we could break that state in less than a month.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
@michaelaganoe Actually, the right wing child molesters are the problem. You're PRO-PEDOPHILE agenda is glaringly clear to the American public who now despises the republitard party and their association with religious right wing CHILD MOLESTERS. RIGHT WING = CHILD MOLESTERS(PROVEN FACT) FBI stats don't lie. Most child molesters come from right wing evangelical families. Shame on you and your lust for little boys. We will conquer you by exposing your perversions.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
@michaelaganoe The catholic church itself is the gift that keeps on giving and by that I mean it never runs out of sex scandals involving YOU and your kind in a public bathroom with a little boy.Yes, we are aware of your PERVERSIONS and lust for innocent flesh. You will pay dearly for your sins against nature and God. Judging gay people is the reason you have fallen out of favor with God to beging with. He is exposing your hypocrisy and catching you with your pants down. Yes, we will expose you.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe No actually, I don't know that. What I do know is that you are WICKED and you shall be PUNISHED for your lust of innocent flesh. I know what evil is in your heart you PERVERT! God is on OUR SIDE not yours. I know he is and you can't say the same because you are DESPISED as the wicked should be. You are a liar and a filthy ABOMINATION and you will pay dearly for your sins. I have already exposed you right here on this channel and have been VICTORIOUS as good is in the end.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe Most experts agree, those who hate people who are gay are probably closeted homosexuals themselves. I am MORALLY SUPERIOR in every way shape and form to you. You are GARBAGE and TRASH despised by GOD AND MAN. You are a stinking pervert who deserves DEATH as a punishment for your sins. You will PAY DEARLY for your disgusting perversions. You are a FAGGOT if ever there was one.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe ATTENTION!!! michaelaganoe is a HYPOCRITICAL HOMO who deserves the ultimate punishment for his transgression against God and nature. He supports the PRO-PEDOPHILE agenda of the PERVERTED RIGHT WING CHILD MOLESTERS. If you know who is then use extreme measures to bring him to justice if neccessary.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe YOU SHALL OBEY it is my will and my will be done.
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe You're sickness is apparent and I seek only to bring you and wickedness to justice. However that may take place I am certain that God is on MY SIDE and not yours. You are a disgusting child molesting pervert and that is something you just can't lie about. I know your wicked heart and it's pitch black perversions. You will be judged and not just by man. You want to screw with me some more you PERVERT?
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe Come on pussy! Bring on the fight! I've got nothing but GOD ALL MIGHTY and his wrath on loan. You want to challenge GOD? BRING IT ON!!! You foul smelling child, molesting demon from perdition! I KNOW YOU DEVIL and in the end you end up in the lake of fire!
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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@michaelaganoe WATCH THE DEMON RUNAWAY FROM THE LIGHT! He doesn't have God on his side so IT runs away from a righteous battle. I WIN!!! YOU LOSE!!! as all the perverts do in the end.
taosimplicity 1 year ago
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Another so-called "news" story that neglects to tell you that the Judge.....the solitary man that made this decision......is one of the few openly Gay judges at this level in America. So yeah.....the Gay guy.....handed down a Gay opinion. Whoop-Di-Doo.
catndryer 1 year ago
......ok so i guess i didn't get the memo...single parents can't raise children now...hmm weird....if a single mother can raise a child then how is two mothers worse? i guess i just must be stupid or something....
fuckyeah69696969 1 year ago
This is just like when blacks used to get buried in separate cemeteries. Does it really effect anyone where they get buried? Does it make a difference if they get buried next to everyone else? No, but it just happened to rub the majority of the wrong way.
This is a stupid issue based on people disliking faggots and faggotry. This is not an argument based on evidence, social implications, etc.
briantotse3 1 year ago
Apparently, we all need to follow Mr. Brown's ideals due to the fact that he knows some pretty influencial people. I mean, he knows PASTORS from the good 'ol days of slavery? I suppose he rides a cotton gin to his temple every sunday. Mr. Brown is so right though. I mean, marriage has always been about love and never about the exchange of property, right? Next, we're going to attack the concept of divorce and how it NEVER happens in modern times. Oh wait...
Shaprika 1 year ago
Stupid idiot cannot see what is fundamentally right but stuck on to fucking stone-age selfish theories of living and the best joke is trying to justify his stupidity.Stupid idiot cannot see what is fundamentally right but stuck on to fucking stone-age selfish theories of living and the best joke is trying to justify his stupidity.
mihira66 1 year ago
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gay marriage is nasty...
MrPookie00 1 year ago
@MrPookie00
then don't get one! but all people should have the right to one!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief then dont get married to a gay? what r u replying 2?
MrPookie00 1 year ago
@MrPookie00
well, of course! you don't have to want a gay marriage in order to realize that everyone should have the right to get married. Live and let live... gays don't harm you or affect your life, so don't harm or affect theirs. Let them love, and let them legally recognize and protect that love. If you're a fair person, I'm sure you agree.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief if they were allowed they wouldnt have a right. theyd have a special right. Once, gay marriage would be allowed it would be put in the school books and show the children things that shouldnt be.
MrPookie00 1 year ago
@MrPookie00
Not true. If gays are allowed to marry, EVERYONE would have the right to a gay marriage. No one would have more rights than anyone else, so why are you talking about a "special right"?
You said it "shows the children things that shouldnt be". Isn't school where kids learn about how the world is? What happens when a kid comes to school who has two dads, or two moms? Aren't the other kids going to find out about gay marriage anyhow? So much better to have a teacher explain it!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief yes but not everyone wants to be gay and not everyone even likes gays. They spread disease 5 times more then straights as well anyway
MrPookie00 1 year ago
@MrPookie00
You have to be gay or even like gays to realize that everyone deserves the same rights. Gays can't marry who they love and have their families protected. That's wrong.
What's also wrong is your claim that gays spread disease 5 time more than heteros. What is your evidence of that? Per the World Health Organization, there are far more HETEROS with HIV/AIDS than gays. Even if your claim WAS true, that STILL doesn't mean they shouldn't have equal rights!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@MrPookie00 they would have equal rights, not special rights
get it right
idaman12345 1 year ago
Why can't we treat fairly those who wish to engage in polygamous or bigamous relationships? Gavin Newsom is being a hypocrite about the subject of marriage, because marriage rights have been to denied to these people as well since the 1850's. The government should not be in the business of defining marriage.
iSAW7 2 years ago
You know, thats the same thing they said about interracial couples. A man can't help his race, and three people can't help being three people. So to stop polygamy and such, we better not change tradition, and keep the traditional: one man, one woman, same race, same caste definition of marriage in place forever...
...because if other forms of marriage are legal...we'll all die! (right?)
Darkbison7 1 year ago
blitz - Fact and science my ass. If there was so much evidence out there than there would be no debate. Which there still clearly is. Gays are gays the same reason a stripper is a stripper.
llouldeng 2 years ago
"If there was so much evidence out there than there would be no debate." There isn't any debate. There aren't any medical or psychological organizations that believe that being gay is a choice. None at all. There is an obvious consensus among professionals: being gay is normal, natural, and innate.
BIitzed 2 years ago 27
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Those same professionals who not that long ago called homosexuality a mental illness? There's also the existance of ex-gays. Please don't try to act like this is something that in all circles has been a forgone conclusion.
llouldeng 2 years ago
Homosexuality is no longer a mental illness for a reason-- the American Psychological Association determined that there was no evidence supporting this idea. Don't discount new advances in an area of science because of past ignorance. That's like arguing that discoveries in geology are worthless because people used to believe that the Earth was flat.
BIitzed 2 years ago 23
Yeah I wouldn't compare the APA to scientists. They are notoriously liberally biased and how much trust can you put in an organization that seems to invent a new disorder everyday.
llouldeng 2 years ago
The American Psychological Association is certainly an organization of scientists; psychology is, after all, a scientific field. You may wish to marginalize them by declaring them "liberally biased", but where is your empirical evidence of this? Oh, that's right, you have none. You believe them to be "liberally biased" because the scientific data they cite directly contradicts your beliefs about human sexuality.
BIitzed 2 years ago
Galieo was a liberal too. Better throw out all of his ideas about the universe too.
What does 'seems to invent a new disorder everyday' mean? Seems to who? You?
Can you explain the absolute worst scenario caused in any location by legal gay marriage? Keep in mind, tobacco use is legal for consumers, even though it often kills the consumer. So your worst case scenario has to be a bigger threat than death itself. Good luck.
Darkbison7 1 year ago
AMEN, WELCOME TO THE NEW CENTURY YALL
niggitynignig 1 year ago
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michaelaganoe 1 year ago
@BIitzed very well said, fantastic comment!
shairaptor 1 year ago