JENNA MISCAVIGE (ABC Nightline) SCIENTOLOGY UNDER ATTACK 1

[zuniga6412]

Poor ole Tom....What a dope.

[EbenezarGold]

I've got a leader bean!

[direwolfmusic]

hahah @ 1:03 cums in the face... sorry...

[listenthinkspeak]

If they are serving "Very berry" flavored Kool-Aid I am SO... signing up!

[stallion4life]

What's sad is that these accusations are small potatoes by usual Scientology standards. there are many people whose stories are far more harrowing.

[redshark618]

I wonder why celebrities are so attracted to $cientology. Maybe because it's another outlet for their massive millions that just demands attention.

[Mxlsptlk]

Scientology endorses slavery, kidnapping, and slow death from chronic conditions due to lack of readily available medications.

[VaiTomarN0Cu]

"ethics file" wtf! but the chick Jenna is kinda cute...

[armyyyg]

Ron was a schizophrenic........ Watch his documentary ;]

[smallpotatoes989]

scientology is the greatest gift to mankind!!! Ron was Jesus himself and you must belive in him right now

[SuperStreetG]

i will always be a fan of val kilmer for knocking tom cruise out on the set of Top Gun

[azasadny]

Hail Xenu!

[yotchsy]

I know what she went throught

what she said about waking up is team work to handle matter, energy, space and time.

I used to work about 15 hours too and get paid 28 dollars

[difficultbastard]

2:55 "being a Scientologist is basically being someone who helps"

...you fuck up your life, and the lives of others you convert, all for the low, low price of...

[human0un]

talk about a regime...a military school at least provides kids with an education...it looks like they are keeping these kids cut off from the rest of society and they are forcing them to do labor...that is so fucking criminal

[sauroid1]

Children as slave laborers, what a disgrace. Abusive actually, how the church gets away with it is a mystery to me.

[iqirus2]

Saying you are a scientoligist is the same as saying you're an ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SALESPRODUCTIONS]

Can you believe this abuse ?

It is sad because they are stealing people's lives - especially children - since they can't go back and re-live the years that were stolen by bizarre cult lunatics.

This just sickens me - because Scientologists claim millions of people are members - and if true - then perhaps millions of people are this delusional.

[roughcutone2]

@2:24 Hubbard has a bullet proof vest under his sweeter

[azzy314159]

All religions including scientology are stark raving madness.

[danielamin]

She's hot but I wouldn't stand next to her, what with all the snipers that are surely following her around...

[Lhoodrat]

I still dont get how people can believe this crap. L Ron said so himself "im going to start a religon thats where the money is" Duh You idiots I work to hard for my money I wont give it to these Aholes. CULT CULT CULT

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

I assumed you had been an atheist, and were now born-again. Ok then, given that you are an atheist, you are not a believer that christ is the resurrected son of god; therefore you would agree with me that the bible is a work of fiction. So why call me ignorant when i pointed this out?

[mcpencil]

I don't see how Scientology is that different from the cult of Christ.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

You don't have to pay Jesus for his information. Nothing in the bible says that you have to pay for it's enlightenment, in fact, there's even a story about Jesus throwing money lenders out of the church who would lend money so that people could tithe. L. Ron Hubbard, on the other hand, wrote into his religious dogma that his enlightenment was not free even creating very clear dollar amounts for what his info was worth..

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

you are wrong. The catholic church, which is practically the face of organised christianity, is practically PAVED in gold. Television preachers and megachurch pastors are swimming in money. At one time, the church even sold "indulgences" which were the forgiveness of sins for a dollar amount. Religion is all about power and money. And, by the way, you have to pay jesus for "enlightenment" by surrendering your mind and life to him... that's worth more than money.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

You are talking about sectarianism, not Christian theology.

Apples and oranges, my friend.

Please find me the passage where the bible says that a person has to surrender their mind to Christ, you'll have to ignore the many passages about the free will given his favorite creation to find it, I'm sure, to support your proletariate understanding of the faith. I don't take uncited claims as fact like the majority of people on this site.

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

Would you agree that there is an overwhelmingly clear call from christian authority figures for people to "give their lives" to christ? How can you live by god's law, and for god, without giving your mind to the concept? As for finding quotes from the bible, i am not too big on reading works of fiction that pretend to be factual. I noticed that you haven't argued with my statement about how religion makes a few people rich, at the expense of everyone else. Christianity was a cult.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

"As for finding quotes from the bible, I am not to big on reading works of fiction etc. etc."

Thank you for confirming my point that you are ignorant about what you are trying to debate.

I bid you good day.

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

Sorry, i should have prefaced the fictional comment with "in my opinion". I assume you believe Scientology is fictional? If so, a scientology member would likely consider you ignorant about scientology. So far, you haven't argued with my point that organised religion takes from the many to give to the few. Also, to an outsider, christianity contains just as many ridiculous claims as scientology does. We know LRon was a fiction writer, but we can't meet the authors of the bible.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

"To an outsider, christianity contains...."

In you opinion, as you've never read the bible.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

My original comment shows that while the THEOLOGY of Christianity says nothing about paying for your enlightenment while the THEOLOGY of Scientology is very specific not only about the fact that you have to pay but also how much is to be paid.

Arguing sectarianism does not debate this fact.

Please refrain from wasting my time any further with your strawman arguments and think about taking a course on how to debate.

Thank you.

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

youtube videos are not a forum for proper civilised debate. I don't have to have read the bible cover to cover, to know that it contains claims as ridiculous as those made by scientology. And I put it to you that theology is irrelevant; just words. What is relevant, is how humans apply christianity in real life, and its potential for abuse. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the number of members, and christianity was certianly a cult at one time.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

Perhaps your reading comprehension is just poor:

The "opinion" of someone who is ignorant about the subject being discussed doesn't interest me.

I've spent many years, as an atheist, travelling the world to study comparitive religion and religions effect on society. Your uneducated opinion about subjects that I have studied indepth doesn't interest me as none of it disputes my point. There are enough educated people on this site that I don't have to occupy my time with you.

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

You are likewise ignorant about scientology, given that you have not read all of the internal documents and practiced all of the techniques. So, by your logic, you are in no position to state that scientology is false and makes ridiculous claims. Of course, we both know that scientology is bullshit; but we are both, by your logic, ignorant of it, and yet we still feel free to criticise it. Why not apply the same standards to christianity/islam/judaism?

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

Show me, in my comments, where I stated that Scientology is false.

Fuck me, are you stupid.

[mcpencil]

@thegirl44

I assume you are a christian, and that means you can't also be a scientologist. If you are a christian, that means you believe that scientology is false. Stop me where I am wrong.

[thegirl44]

@mcpencil

You must have missed two comments down where I identified myself as an atheist?

Stupid and the lack of reading comprehension that I pointed out earlier confirmed.

[HeavyMechanics]

Scientology is just another cult. Founder LRH stated at a writer's convention to fellow writers that if they really wanted to make some money, they should start their own religion. Scientology and Dianetics were simply endeavors for financial gain, and to satisfy the curiosity of a hack writer who couldn't make enough money writing pulp sci-fi novels, so he decided to try to bilk shills out of their life savings instead.

[toryluvslrh2]

@WorshipSatan666s - Bob Minton is dead. An anon has gone to prison in LA for his attack on Scn. Anonymous numbers have dropped off the face of the earth. Scn has opened over 20 NEW churches since Jan 1st. The Sea Org has grown 26% since anon arrived. Are you good at math? Nuff said.

[toryluvslrh2]

Scientology works. The racial hate group known as anonymous could not stop it. Nuff said

[HeavyMechanics]

@toryluvslrh2 Not enough said. How is Anon a racial hate group? Explain. Also, going against a giant organization like Scientology, with all it's resources and it's penchant for character assassination, I would be shocked and surprised if a small group such as Anon made any traction at all against Scientology. The face that Anon couldn't "stop" Scientology has absolutely no bearing on whether or not it "works". It only works to separate ignorant people from their money.

[ytrogergt]

Tom cruise is a HOMOSEXUAL. Period.

[gia4375]

um....ah most religions ask for donations even the catholic church ask for 10% of there incomes.

[AnimalNitrates]

@gia4375 Yes, but you could subscribe to the beliefs of Catholicism without paying alms.

[michaeledith]

David my boy, how tall are you sonny, "oh" what you say,good god man. Tom is taller than you thats a worry, hey boo boo boy you have little boy sin-drome, repent your sins boo boo boy, you little turd...

[ScottKeith7025]

Holy shit Tom Cruise is like 5 feet tall and Miscavage is shorter than him? What a Napoleon-complex abusive psycho.

[CompliesWithPart15]

slavery

[grogtgs]

This doesn't seem to bad. I went to catholic school when I was a kid. We were forced to work, forced to worship Jesus and forced to go to church. If you didn't do what they said, you'd get beaten. Jenna said she didn't sign up to do this. Well, I didn't sign up to get my ass beat by some nuns. Where's my ABC Nightline interview? I know Scientology is a scam and all but all this criticism is really hypocrisy. There's worst stuff going on in major religions than in the silly scientology churches

[grogtgs]

ooooo ice water. That is some major abuse going on there. There's many alter boys who wish they'd have ice water instead of priest sex

[goussen2000]

GEORGE ORWELL 1984!!!

[surfingcougar]

So they didn't talk to anyone who's actually had a good experience of it? Wow.

[33dgtp]

i think i'll chose going to hell just to see scientologists burn  in pain....

[MrWhizzpop]

is that tommy davis at 3:02 ?

[trakkaton]

Hahaha, a billion years! Yes!

[Neofran15]

the only bad thing about living in Clearwater is seeing these fuckers alllll over the place.

[jademm]

@Neofran15

like a cockroach/rodent infestation that won't go away.

shudder...

[Neofran15]

Exactly! I live right next to Hacienda Gardens, and the other ones on Keene, and one of them tried to follow me home, on their bikes!! I was apauled!

[afBeaver]

Jenna Miscavige is so awesome! A real hero! <3

[Sonytube12345]

Jenna has gone missing. I think the sci fags got her.

[cosmosgato]

Clearly $cinetolgy is a mind fuck cult but it also a fruitcake magnet. Those people were predisposed to insanity. They were looking for a master to use and abuse them.

[drumrnva]

Good post. And 'fruitcake magnet' is an excellent band name. :)

[Sonytube12345]

No, anyone can be victimized to neuro-linguistic programming.

[79274333]

Scientologists = brainwashed useless cunts.

I`m just saying.

[AvatarOfAvatar]

If it looks like a cult, walks like a cult, mind fucks like a cult.....

It's probably a fucking cult.

[JoshSitar]

LMAO @ 1:00 he says, "but it CUMS IN THE FACE of a mounting wave of criticism".

[arthurhowardpl]

p.s. Jenna is really cute

[arthurhowardpl]

Tom Cruise displays manic symptoms in that leaked clip where he is speaking about scientology. This guy is totally washed.

[PaulG85]

The Cult of Scientology's assets should be seized on a worldwide scale. It's tax exempt status should be revoked in all nations. Lastly, those members that can be redeemed and brought back into a Judeo-Christian faith should be allowed to do so. All others should be in a concentration camp.

[numinouslayers]

@PaulG85 What are you a fucking communist?

[xtlhogciao]

This is no different than Jesus Camp.

[lev3269]

Well Jesus is a totally different divine individual then Xenu

[Blogdub]

Just another brain washing institution that scam people like Muslim, Christanity, etc.  Nothing new!

[deeptracy23]

Like all other religions, Scientology is just another crutch for weak people, only more expensive.

[redinsam]

Germany considers them a business and levies taxation instead of treating them as a Church and tax-free,

[plstrom]

what i do not andestand is why this scam is alowed to be called a church... What is their Credo the alien story?

Stop this "mafia gorilas" from taking advantage of peoples weaknesses , NOW...

[RoyReal]

It's easy for the leaders to say "There's nothing wrong with scientology, everything is fine" when they have a big money pile to jump in. Let the REAL members speak their own minds. And if they can't well then they are obviously threatened by other members so they don't speak out.

[mrpottymouth121]

Sad, sad & dangerous.

[TheAvarusAnimus]

They claim to be the fastest growing new major "religion" of the 21st century.Can anyone else tell me what other (actual)major religion in the world asks you to pay money for enlightenment and immortality??Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism.. none do!. Scientology is a profit orientated business.Simple.Also they hav such a dislike for psychiatry because they know its the one branch of medicine that would show they are all mentally coerced to believe in this absolute horse shit.

[seansalvador1]

so true! the perfect brainwash

[PancakePlease]

@TheAvarusAnimus Compared to Scientology, the Catholic church has done SO MUCH more in terms of "charging" for salvation. Dont you remember indulgences and buying your way out of purgatory and why there was a reform in the first place? What about child abuse in the Catholic church or the Inquisition and mass killing in the name of God? The Catholic church makes the bad deeds of Scientology look chump change.

[TheAvarusAnimus]

@PancakePlease .... No.1 Indulgences were 400 years ago. No.2 No one disagrees that the inquisition,child abuse and mass killing were/are wrong. No.3 The Catholic Church have done terrible things in the name of religion.Whats your point?Im talking about this particular cult...scientology!Its a money scam..nothing more!

[PancakePlease]

@TheAvarusAnimus True. I was just replying to your comment that no other major religion "asks for money for enlightenment and immortality".. which lots of religions do. But yes scientology is a huge modern scam and isn't any better.

[0hs0Zen0]

@TheAvarusAnimus The history of Christianity includes selling the wood that Christ was supposedly crucified on and selling indulgences, places in heaven. Look at Joel Olsteen. The pope, the vatican, the hidden art and jewels and riches....All religions are cults but exercise control in different manners.

[TheAvarusAnimus]

@0hs0Zen0 I agree with you that Christianity has had a very shady past.I am talking about the present and specifically about Scientology.I don't believe all religions are cults and I wouldn't call Scientology a religion but it is a cult.Money is integral to the world and thus is integral to many religions but it is so blatantly obvious that Scientology is only interested in money.Someone is making a lot of money from the brainwashed masses.

[0hs0Zen0]

@TheAvarusAnimus Christianity has a very shady present. Televangelists. The vatican, their gold, their wealth...just in the 90's saying it's okay to believe that the earth rotates around the sun and apologizing to Galileo. They hid hundreds of cases of child molestations. And I have my own experiences of the church exercising mind control and though crimes...The church is a cult, they just exercise their control differently.

[greenshe08]

@TheAvarusAnimus - Last time I checked, ALL religions ask you to pay money for enlightenment and immortality! What do you think the collection box is for?

[TheAvarusAnimus]

@greenshe08 handing over a euro or a dollar by your own volition is completely different to being co-erced (brainwashed even!) into handing over thousands of dollars/euro!!!I agree all religions in some way use and abuse money but non as cynically and as profiteering as Scientology!

[downwiththeswickness]

Jesus, that guy is even smaller than Tom Cruze. Together, they almost make up one man.

[Moretzsohn1]

Germany is the only smart country when it comes to scientology.

"you know the germans alays make good stuff"

[clitoris999999]

$cientology is a creepy cult.

[europarental]

As a french association for Child protection, we certify that most common cults such as CoS or JW it's vital not to let the truth be known, so they usually try all POSSIBLE to hide the evidences.

As we are collaborating since 10 years with all honest ground association around the continent, MIVILUDES, CIAOSN and french/belgian/bask/bavarian parliamentary commissions of investigations about sectarian drifts / weird cults, we know it's true and more witnesses coming up.

Carry on, kids need it

[11Jamie11]

Thanks for posting this. Keep up the pressure! Scientology's victims -- chief among them, the members themselves -- need our help as much as they believe we need theirs.

[jfunf]

Oh. And BTW i red both sides. And i can easily divide bullshit data from true data in all that links you guys believe blindly.

[crisbianfloyde]

The quicker this cult is destroyed the better

[jfunf]

It cannot be destroyed.

[crisbianfloyde]

that's funny! Because they seem to be losing the battle at every stage so far!!!

[jfunf]

Thats what their enemieds want others to believe. Actually they prosper.

[crisbianfloyde]

You live in a dream world mate! You are so seriously brainwashed it is laughable! Do yourself a favour and go and do some independant research away from your cult. You might actually learn something! Otherwise there is no hope for you and you will just end up another brainwashed victim.

[jfunf]

Oh really? Such a fine point you have. All guys who do not think like you do - are brainwashed. Is that the only argument you got to support your own position. As for "independent research" - i guess you never did one. Independent research - is not reading some data independently. Its reading ALL available data - and comparing results and then - making a final decision. You ever read at least one LRH book? Just out of need of independent research? Doubt it.

[crisbianfloyde]

1. Yes I did research both sides

2. I did read Dianetics and thought what a load of crap!

3. It is obvious that you are brainwashed as you would stick up for Hubbard: A convicted child abuser, a child molester, a wife beater, a convicted fraudster, a racist, a homophobe, a liar, a drug addict and a paranoid schizophrenic! Yeah, I did my research and there is no way I would want to be involved in a cult made by him!

[jfunf]

Ahh...If you red Dianetics - than tell me what its about? and if you think that it's a load of crap - did you ever tried to apply whats written in there? By reading - i mean read whole book - not several sentences on its backside. Clearly you did not research two sides as you claim.

[crisbianfloyde]

i read it about 20+ years ago and no I did not apply what was written in itas I did not think that any part was relevant to how I live my life. I found it very similar to the writings in some respects to Aliste Crowley, this was before I knew that the two were friends. I found it to be a third rate version of psycho-analysis that had been written by a person of quite low intellect.

there are far better self help manuals on the market

[jfunf]

Ummm..interesting. But what brought you to a state from ignoring it to actually fighting it.

[crisbianfloyde]

I ignored it because I saw it as flawed. After reading it I then did my research about the author. what I find out disgusted me! I read the affidavit of his second wife 1st, then I started to read everything else about him including the child abuse who committed whilst on the run from the French courts and then I started to hear about the RPF and other stories. I knew then I had to fight against it

[jfunf]

Incapable i'm or not - i think that its much wiser to listen to guys who know the subject instead anyone who never really researched into things before claiming he knows them.

[jfunf]

Oh yeah - the psychiatry and psychology is more popular - because of a lot of ignorant people around. And the ones who do not want to lose the business. and therefore making obstacles on its way.

[crisbianfloyde]

If Dianetics worked then everyone would be using it! It's not about holding it back. People want answers and Psychaitry and psychology have more answers than a 5th rate (at best) self help manual which is deeply flawed and has no answers to any issues!

[numinouslayers]

@crisbianfloyde answers my arse, look into the history of psychiatry is a complete and utter sham.

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers Then prove me wrong...Oh, wait you can't! At least psychiatry and psychology puts its findings up for public revue within the medical community. Scientology would never put any findings up for revue within the medical community because they know they would be shown to be bullshit. Scientology is a complete FAIL!!!!

[numinouslayers]

@crisbianfloyde Look up Dr Ewan Cameron for all you need to know about psychiatry, torturing people under the CIA's MKultra mind control programs, they werer heavily involved in the Nazi death camps and quite happy to label enemies of the murderous communist state as mentally ill. In fact the medical industry was happy to label run-away slaves as mental, cos normal people love slavery right? You haven't the foggiest clue about psychiatry - its a political weapon.

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! Typical scientologist, can only find the negative. Well if we are going to look at the negative then lets look at scientology itself. How many members have been brainwashed to cut of contact from their families? How many suspicious deaths have taken place in your cult now? How many court cases has your cult lost now? How many times has scientology been sued now?

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers And nots let forget that your founder spent the last few years of his life on the run from the authorities, was a convicted felon, child abductor and abuser, tried to kill his 2nd wife, drove the 1st to suicide, took psychiatric drugs and then got gullible little twats like you to follow him...How much money have you spent now trying to get on the bridge? HAHAHAHA

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers Any twat can turn history to suit their needs and if you are talking about torture. Well lets look GWB administration...Waterboarding for one, camp x-ray for another, people extradited without the courts knowledge and the list goes on. You are an idiot and a moron. You need to do some real studying from a real library and not just read what scientology wants you to read. Now go and get a real education and stop thinking that 2 soup cans will solve your issues. It won't!

[numinouslayers]

@crisbianfloyde Any CUNT can call people twats. Twisted history? Everything I said is true. I am also not a scientologist, I simply find the matter of interest as you obviously do. I also agree with you about GWB your assumptive fuck-face. Please point me to where L Ron Hubbard was convicted of child abuse I genuinely never heard that one before.

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers you call me a fuck face and then expect me to help you find information...kiss my arse you fucking retard! And if you did your complete research on the history of psychiatry you would not spouting the bullshit that you do! you obviously no fuck all about fuck all and I won't be wasting anymore of time on the poster child from an incestuous like you!

[numinouslayers1]

@crisbianfloyde You can't because it didn't happen.

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers1 I see you are a liar and an idiot! Look at your comment below...you called me an assumptive fuck face and then you ask me to point to where LRH was convicted for child abuse! And yeah it did happen!

[numinouslayers1]

@crisbianfloyde I'll take that as your just a slanderer then

[crisbianfloyde]

@numinouslayers1 I'm not going to fall for your "cheap" psychological tricks. why don't you do the research and you will find the information yourself. Its out there if you know where to look. I am not a slanderer, not that slander is needed against LRH as he was such a vile and pathetic excuse for a human being. A bit like you really!!!

[crisbianfloyde]

Dianetics does not work and it never will as it is completely flawed! If it was not, then everyone would be turning to it instead of psychology and psychiatry. the fact that you are incapable of understanding this shows me that you do not truly understand how useless Scientology is!

[jfunf]

It's not aobut me right now. what i'm still wondering is that you admit that you saw it flawed. Its interesting - how you actually could saw it - without actually trying it. so what i see - if i'm mistaken - plz correct me - that yousomehow thought of it that its a flaw - and woithout even trying it - you figured that because its not as popular as psychiatry - its useless. You're a "genious" you know.

[jfunf]

Yeah. I stick to all those ..whatever things hi "done". But i never really had the proof about it and i do cant care less...A lot of things can be fabricated. Just writing something on a wall does not make it a fact, eh?

[therealarthurdent]

fuck yea out these bastards every chance you get!!!!

"I'd like to start a religion, that's where the money is." -L. Ron Hubbard

[jfunf]

there is a testament -that he never said so.

[crisbianfloyde]

You are a brain washed moron!

[jfunf]

I heard though that he did not said it. That line - is a lie.

[crisbianfloyde]

then you are a dick head who needs to do his research! It was published in a mainstream US magazine at the time back in the late 30's early 40's

[jfunf]

Oh. Actually your rude behaviour make me think that youre quite mad on them. By the way - do you believe all whats written in the magazines? Wake up.

[crisbianfloyde]

It was an interview Hubbard gave..Derrr!

I think you need to wake up and research your cult more thoroughly! If you did you would realise just how much you are being manipulated by the CO$. Do some research and open your eyes!!!!

[jfunf]

You open yours - how can you believe anything what interested parties trying to feed to ignorant guys like you - if the fighting a war to co$ for 58 years. This stuff you blindly repeat - is a lie. I got an evidence - that the guy who told it about LRH - later testify that it was in certain context.

[jfunf]

What magazine?

[psalmsgal]

I detest what Scientology is doing, but how is this young woman any different than a preacher's kid rebelling and going off the path?

[psalmsgal]

Ok, I just watched the entire thing and change my mind.... THAT is so messed up and so NOT the same!

[Cfossedal]

Seaorg = Beast of the Sea