President Ron Paul? Lol, there are many misguided statements on this post. We need to look no farther than pre-progressive era America to see where you folks want to take us. Collective ownership and regulations aren't the same thing at all. I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand that concept.
yet we continue to vote for neocon repubs and socialistic dems...we haven't learned in 47 years. I'd like to say we were the generation that elected a principled man who ended all the wars and brought back our liberties. Ron Paul 2012. Cause liberty is a lot more important than the "safety" the government offers.
@trwent believe me, the guy's a medical doctor and a genius. he sounds alot more intelligent and cognizant than all the other candidates. he's very fit for a 76 y/o. he recently ran in a marathon or something like that i believe.
@supermariofj Ran a marathon, huh? I didn't know that. I was just thinking about Reagan, who was a similar age (actually even younger I think) when he first ran for President. In his first term Reagan was okay, but in his second term he seemed lost and events seemed to totally control him rather than the other way around. As a result, unscrupulous subordinates like Oliver North and John Poindexter filled the void with their own agendas.
and I find myself in a place where people are arguing over which politician was the scummiest... yup. That would be YouTube comments. The 7 billionth human is on the planet now, you folks better start figuring this stuff out promptly.
In as far as lying to the public LBJ was only a bit player in this unlike George Bush whose entire presidency was an exercise in lies, deception, excuses, and general bullshit.
LBJ did not put us in Vietnam, that was done in 1954 by Eisenhower. The entire country was to get elections after the partition but the US reneged because a poll showed the Ho Chi Mien would win. So we propped up Vo Nguyen Giap because he was a Christian. Vietnam was about 80% Buddhist.
The biggest problem with Americans is we don’t understand; the president has only so much power. For instance: the so called “Black Underclass” has been there since Jim Crow. It is not a construct of LBJ but of institutionalized racism that did not offer any opportunities to people of color in education and job placement. Affirmative Action was a process to address this problem by giving private industry incentive to hire Black People.
Al Gore really should have aired a recreation of this in his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush. It could have saved America 8 years of ineptitude and incompetence, the effects of wish are still strongly felt today.
If only present-day Democrats appealed to emotions/fear rather than reason/intelligence (as they do now) THEY'D win a lot more elections in the US House, US Senate and Presidency. One only has to look at how fear won the Democrats the New York Representative seat, where it was beholden to a conservative for decades. However, the Democrat's fear-monger propaganda about Republican's dismantling/abolishing Medicare isn't far off. Gotta use fear in America to win it!
That's right, the man who gets this nation bogged down in Vietnam over the next four years, was actually considered the 'peace' candidate against Goldwater in that election.
"What you do in advertising is you get your can of soup, and you hold it up to the audience and say 'It tastes great, it's full of iron, fiber and vitamins, you should buy some'. What we do in politics is hold up the other guys' can of soup and say 'It's poison, it'll kill you!'"
LBJ never supported gun control, legalizing abortion or Gay marriage, He raised the defense budget to give poor people jobs killing foreign terrorists, kept the space program going to provide jobs for smart people, had the FBI wiretapping subversive groups in the interests of national security, and advocated a color blind society. His values weren't much different than those of President Bush,
AuH20 would have started nuclear armageddon for his "values". LBJ created Medicare and signed the Civil Rights Act. Affirmative Action did not enslave any African-Americans but prevent a race war. Get your head out of your libertarian ass.
@perdondaris The so-called Great Society and war on poverty has created a permanent underclass of blacks in this country, making them permanently dependent on the gubmint. Go do the research and visit any inner city. Affirmative action is un-Constitutional, now being tossed out in case after case. And go fucking read 'Means of Ascent' by Robert Caro before you post another word. LBJ was a vain, insecure, arrogant man - and get your head out of your idiotic, uneducated left-wing ass.
@RGiacobbe Go suck on Nixons balls. You sound like Glenn Beck, you racist lying mother fucker. You'd rather see conservative assholes like Bush not give a fuck about black people at all.
"war on poverty has created a permanent underclass of blacks in this country"
"Affirmative action is un-Constitutional"
"Go do the research and visit any inner city"
Where do you get this stuff? I don't even know where to begin. But just a tip when you are having a conversation in real life. Saying this kind of stuff, especially the inference that the "inner city" is where to find all these "blacks" and then using "gubmint"? People might get the idea that you are kind of bigoted.
The context of this commercial was Goldwater's statement that he would use nukes in Vietnam. That would have led to World War III. Goldwater was a lot of things: a libertarian, an ideologue and a principled man. What he wasn't was a responsible statesman and his principles were wrong--just as wrong for America in 1964 as they are wrong for America today.
@perdondaris Not a responsible statesman? Compared to who, LBJ? The man who lied repeatedly to his country, escalated a war that killed 60K US soldiers and 2M Vietnamese, a man who created such civil strife in his country that race riots broke out, a man who implemented policies that have enslaved black americans in a permanent poverty class. Right... Goldwater wasn't responsible but lying, amoral, vain, incompetent LBJ was. 2+2 doesnt = 4 in your universe I guess.
@88darthmaul Well America had no charitable reason for assisting the South Vietnamese except holding back Communism for as long as possible because the American economy would have been thrown into turmoil if it or its Allies became Communist.
Nixon got us out?..who said that? Pressure from the Nation got us out. Regular college students and high school students were protesting, a novel idea, never done before. And we weren't going to stop. Boys were running to the Canadian border because they didn't want to go to Vietnam. They had to pull criminals out of jail and send them to Vietnam and they shot their own troops, they called it friendly fire. No the Nation said ENOUGH. Nixon, got the boot in '74. we pulled out in '75.
after the election and after vietnam interviewers asked goldwater what he would do in vietnam. He said, " their would'nt be a Vietnam. You wouldnt be able to grow a rice patty in vietnam"
You know, it wasn't LBJ who talked about the possibility of using nuclear weapons in Vietnam, it was Barry Goldwater. So, if the shoe fits, wear it. LBJ didn't get the US into that mess in southeast Asia.
@heycarter You have absolutely no clue. LBJ lied about the gulf of tonkin incident as a reason to expand the war. That's a fact. He sent troops into Cambodia, illegally. That's a fact. He picked civilian bombing targets, illegally. That's a fact. And Goldwater was against a land war in SE asia until we were committed, then he wanted to end it quickly.
You guys that spout this shit about history w/no facts are amazing. Are you that fucking clueless about the rest of life also?
Barry Goldwater probably would've been the best president; but of course, Americans were more concerned about catering to the politically correct, hippie movement and re-elect the Dumbo-ears, jackass LBJ. I mean, why drop bombs and end the war when the Democrats can keep it going so we can lose the war in the media. Thank God Nixon got in there to end it - YES, NIXON is the ONLY REASON that war ended.
@Mikey77B I agree that Nixon was the only reason the war ended. Too bad he dragged it out another four years. Ah well.
As for LBJ being part of the politically-correct, hippie movement, I think that is a complete inaccuracy. First, hippies never got involved with politics; you're thinking of the anti-war college punks. Second, Johnson was far from a bleeding heart. True, he did lie his way into Vietnam for fear of the hawk lobby, but he obsessed over "losing" Vietnam to the communists.
I see Obama winning in 2012 because most of the potential canidates are too right wing.
The only one that could probably stand a chance against him is Mitt Romney because he's smart, charasmatic, and not that right wing. He could be a great president but because he's mormon, the republicans will never let him be nominated. *sighs*
Nicolas your comments are far off base for it has nothing to do with being a woman or being from Alaska but the consensus she's simply not qualified intellectually to be President
I remeber hearing something about "9 11" in this commercial, maybe a longer one, or a bit different. Either way, the anouncer said "9 11" CONSPERIACY. lol jk...
@SniperMaske Leave it to someone calling himself SniperMaske to speak for lucidity and intelligence ... But you're right, Reagan wasn't very lucid or intelligent. Neither was Bush II.
@SniperMaske They were both nutcases. Goldwater advocated ending social security. People voted AGAINST him because he presented himself as a nutjob.
Yeah, Johnson used fear to his advantage and fucked us over with Vietnam but Goldwater was no better in his domestic policies than Johnson and his Vietnam insanity.
@MagatsutheCalamity True. Leading young men to die in a war no one wanted was exactly the same as ending a marginally constitutional, unfunded social program.
@MagatsutheCalamity An average person before was free to do whatever they wanted and paid maybe 5% taxes. Now people pay 50% taxes and can't take a shit without written permission from government.
@kapsi Irresponsibility should be assessed equally and not blamed solely on the gov't. That's always the easy answer. "The gov't did it." and not... "People got too greedy because the gov't allowed it."
@MagatsutheCalamity You can blame people but they will acted rationally, and will do that again if they're given a chance. If someone gives you a house half-free, only an idiot wouldn't take it.
My history teacher let us see this and we were laughing are heads off, not because of the girl not counting to ten properly, well it was mainly that, but Johnson seeming Americans (in that time period) were ONE...and I mean ONE!
@adam32492 how because she is a woman or because she is from Alaska? does that mean she is gonna blow shit up? your dumb, your probably a democrat, pissed off that your presidents overall approval rating is lower than LBJ's was, and you probably still breastfeed? let me know how far off the mark i am
Johnson continued Kennedy policy in Southeast Asia and got 58,000 young men killed and many more wounded and emotionally scarred for life. It brings to mind "Twilight's Last Gleaming" with Burt Lancaster.
the republicans called FDR a commie, yet a man who campaigned on not taking the nuclear option off the table is held up a hero and was wronged. Republicans never change, if they do it it good use of media if it's done to them it's dirty politics.
I won't proclaim to know anything about LBJ, but this ad is crazy. If ever there was need of an example for the power of fear motivation to differentiating one brand from another , this is it.
Johnson the peace candidate, who sent 550,000 troops to Viet Nam, reversing the policy of President Kennedy; after all though LBJ was complicit in the murder of JFK, so that was to be expected. Started all those great welfare programs which have kept over 40 years of people reliant on the govt, at the loss of the freedoms and value of their money
The reality is the Ad is true Goldwater was nuts..they surveyed 9,000 psychiatrists only 670 said Goldwater was mentally capable of serving as president
Johnson was a giant who helped to pave the way for the down on his luck fellow...He saved this country from implosion within
say what you will about Vietnam and his lack of foreign policy but the fact is no one could have dealt with that situation .
@Seabetiger You don't know what you're talking about. The stunt you refer to was a dirty trick by Bill Moyers and Jack Valenti and instantly disavowed by the AMA and APA, and the Johnson camp was forced to pull that ad after running once. And you must be really politically ignorant if you think he saved the country from implosion, when he caused it. He lied us into the Vietnam War and lost control of his domestic policy.
@RGiacobbe well I'm not going to say LBJ was the greatest President we ever had, sure he had has major flaws but he did lead our country in most prosperous time in America. History may have viewed him better today had he not been involved in Vietnam.
@Seabetiger You have a complete lack of knowledge of history. Johnson was an unstable power hungry social climber and conspired with a handful of texas oil barons and the mafia to killed Kennedy when me was going to be removed him from the ticket the next election cycle. He sank our efforts in Vietnam, created a welfare state that has killed our cities to this day.
@Seabetiger God are you Stupid or what? Johnson only laid the groundwork for America getting it's ass kicked in Vietnam. Goldwater could have saved this country
Political genius? Only if massive failure is considered political genius. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Consider his many failures: the gulf of tonkin resolution, his escalation policy, McNamara, his policy on counting war casualties, his bomb targeting, his "great society" now credited with creating the modern welfare state, his domestic agenda that led to race riots and escalating crime, etc. etc.
Go to school a few more years, read a book or two, then get back with us.
I'm not disagreeing with most of what you said, but what I meant when saying he was a political genius is that he knew how to further his agenda by using statements like "let us continue what JFK would have wanted" he manipulate Congress and the system as whole to get things that he wanted to be done turned into a reality. In that aspect, he WAS a political genius.
P.S. For your information, I am history major with published works and the recipient of several scholarship & awards
@RGiacobbe He can be 22 and still win awards and scholarships for his or her history major. Age doesn't matter how many awards he/she's received in their major of choice.
Now on to the matter of the video.
I would kill to see someone do a wtf boom for this.
@RGiacobbe If you'll notice, fanofbond06 said he was a political genius for his tactics during the campaign, not necessarily for his policies during his presidency. Also, if it hadn't been for the war he sent our men and women to, the "great society" he wanted would have been more extensive than it was at the time (not that that justifies escalating the war or breaking promises made during his campaign).
@RGiacobbe What fanboy06 was saying was the fact that he could get elected. Sadly Politics is about how many people like you not what your ideas were. Running for office dosen't mean your capable for office. As you can see both these people or idiots just like in the 2004 election.
This description you gave is a damned fallacy and you know it. Goldwater was INTENT on dropping nuclear bombs on Vietnam, he SAID SO PUBLICLY, MANY TIMES.
What the hell is wrong with you conservatives, all you EVER do is outright lie, it's despicable.
@truthslap I'm not a conservative and I don't entirely agree with you. He never explicitly said he was INTENT on dropping bombs, he only said he was not discounting the possibility.
I actually had a chance to speak to Barry Goldwater's son about two weeks ago (also named Barry Goldwater) and was actually talking about this issue.
To get off all the internet argument and rapid research on Wikipedia, I find this ad fascinating just from the historical viewpoint. And imagine if this had been aired today...Both parties would have raised hell, this was an incredibly powerful ad, and possibly over the top. But whats done is done, LBJ was elected president, Vietnam happened, we can't change that.
LBJ was one of my favorite presidents. People let his failure in Vietnam overshadow what he did at home. He was the greatest chief legislator thus far, passing more bills in his first Congress than any president before him. He made huge strides for civil rights, Medicare/Medicaid, welfare, education, housing, social security, to name a few. Not to mention the country's lowest poverty rate in history was during the 70s and could easily be attributed to LBJ's War on Poverty.
Johnson's administration laid the foundation for the destruction of the American dollar, strengthened the gap between rich and poor, overspent and pushed horribly unconstitutional bills, and created much of the problems faced by his successors, namely the inflation crisis and "energy" crisis of the 1970's. He is the undisputed worst President in US history.
Wrong answer. STUPID JACK-OFF. AMERICA'S GROWING RELIANCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL WAS WHAT BROUGHT DOWN THE KEYNESIAN CURVE IN 1973. THE EFFECTS OF THE ENERGY CRISIS OF THE 1970'S STARTED AFTER NIXON PISSED OFF THE ARABS AFTER HE AIDED ISRAEL IN THE YOM KIPPUR IN 1973. THE ARABS AND THE AMERICANS WERE NEVER ON FRIENDLY TIES AFTER THAT CRISIS EITHER, UNTIL BOTH THE SOVIET-AFGHAN WAR AND THE PERSIAN GULF SOLIDIFIED THE PRESENT-DAY "FRIENDSHIP FEELING" BETWEEN THE TWO.
Although I agree with the notion the LBJ was a rather incompetent president, you can't possibly play the what-if game and speculate that the man that publicly expressed the possibility of dropping another nuclear bomb would have done much better.
Where would this world be if that did happen, it's scary to think about.
@Christian121y You have A LOW IQ. THE REPUBLICAN RICHARD NIXON COULDN'T EVEN GUARANTEE VICTORY IN VIETNAM. YOU NEED TO STOP SUCKING UP TO INFERIOR LOGIC. THAT IS WHAT COST YOUR PARTY THE EIGHT REMAINING YEARS OF OBAMA'S TERM IN THE FIRST PLACE
Christian121y, YOU ARE A STUPID, SHIT-MINDED JACK-OFF. IT'S JUST THE TRUTHFUL FACT. ARE YOU GOING TO WHINE I'M COMMUNIST NOW FOR DISAGREEING WITH YOU? LOL
Also SamKalirai, JOHNSON WOULD HAVE BEEN RANKED ONE OF THE TEN GREATEST PRESIDENTS TO THIS DAY HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIS ESCALATION OF THE VIETNAM WAR. Regarding domestic issues, he was a very strong leader
Not true. He would have had tremendous success raising taxes to fund an escalation of the war and devoting all the country's resources to it, and ignoring the Great Society, or getting out completely and devoting all the country's resources to the Great Society. His indecision was mostly due to his devotion to his domestic policy as well as his desire to continue JFK's legacy, namely fighting the war in Vietnam.
Barry Goldwater would have been a better President for that era. There would have been a swift and decisive end to the Vietnam war. We would not have a gash of a memorial in Washington to over 50,000 lives lost for what? While war is never a popular option, and the candidate opposing an unpopular war usually wins, it is always best to stay out of wars you have no intention of winning. Mr. Obama here's your lesson for Afghanistan!
Conducting a half assed attempt at destroying supply lines which weren't even the main staging areas for the Viet Minh and then retreating whose retreat was announced broadly for the whole world to see isn't "expanding it to cambodia"
North Vietnam WOULD BEEN TOO RISKY TO INVADE, GIVEN THE AFTERMATH OF THE KOREAN WAR. IT WOULD HAVE INCREASED THE CHANCES OF WORLD WAR III HAD THE TROOPS GONE FASTLY INTO THE AREA, AS IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE CHINESE BORDER. THE GOALS OF THE WAR WERE ABOUT DIVIDING THE VIETNAM PENINSULA, PROTECTING SOUTH VIETNAM FROM NORTH VIETNAM, AND ONLY INVADING NORTH VIETNAM IF THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION WAS CLEARLY MORE FAVORABLE TO THE ALLIED FORCES. THE ONLY LOGISTICAL OPTION WAS TO BOMB NORTH VIETNAM.
Yes he was. The consequences of his disastrous presidency are felt even today. LBJ and GBW fight for the top spot spot as worse US president in the modern era.
No i think LBJ was a good president if you put aside the war.He wanted to end the war in peace and victory which lead to his down fall but the Johnson administration has been looked on favorably through out history so as the Kennedy administration
Incorrect my friend. LBJ is considered a massive failure by historians, despite the Civil Rights Act. He lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident, lied about # of deaths in the war, and lied about fighting in Cambodia. He became consumed with the press and relied on McNamara & Kissinger for policy.
His Great Society created the modern welfare state. He was a vain, arrogant, insercure, vacuous man of no substance or principle.
@RGiacobbe Totally agree. My parents were Nixon-bashers, but personally I hated LBJ more than any "leader" before or since. "I won't be the first American President to lose a war, so you boys I've drafted go put the coonskin on the wall for me. Oh, BTW, from the comfort of our offices, Bob McNamara and I will be telling you exactly how many bullets you're allowed to fire." LBJ really began the general contempt and distrust so many Americans have toward their govt.
I don't know how old you are or what you consider the "modern era" and I'm not GWB's biggest fan but Jimmy Carter beats him for worst Pres by a freakin' landslide i.e. IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS, double digit inflation & interest rates on home loans. And what about Warren Harding and Woodrow Wilson? Or Herbert Hoover? Do they count as modern era? All these are worse than GWB. Your memory of Bush is just too fresh and not truly reflecting history. But I agree about LBJ. And I remember his presidency.
Carter did suck as a president, BUT W. GAVE ALL OF US A WORSE ECONOMIC CRISIS. Carter's crisis revolved around America's reliance on Middle Eastern oil, WHILE W.'s CRISIS REVOLVED AROUND DOMESTIC CREDIT. I didn't like the fact that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid caved in to his war-spending requests at all, NOR DO I LIKE THE FACT THAT OBAMA CONTINUED THEM. But the economy is healing and we will not be expensively spending on the war for much longer,. BUSH WAS WORSE THAN EVEN CARTER, CASE CLOSED
Case might be closed for you dude. If you think the economy is healing because of a fake stimulus of which only 20% has even been committed you are mistaken. We haven't seen the worst of it. At least GWB had the decency to SHUT UP once he left office, Carter keeps making an international ass of himself even 30 years after he left office!
>mfw all these liberals
I'll see you when the system collapses, kids.
GermanShepard96 1 week ago
President Ron Paul? Lol, there are many misguided statements on this post. We need to look no farther than pre-progressive era America to see where you folks want to take us. Collective ownership and regulations aren't the same thing at all. I wouldn't expect simpletons to understand that concept.
Lib361 1 week ago
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I want to make an ad like this saying "Support Ron Paul in the Republican primaries. The stakes are too high for you to stay home."
SuperSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
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SuperSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
She missed seven.
TheFoxyJade 2 weeks ago
1 2 3 4 5 7 6 6 8 9 9 lol
sergeantsoap101mw2 1 month ago
Did anybody else find this commercial SEVERELY fucked up?
connorma77 1 month ago
yet we continue to vote for neocon repubs and socialistic dems...we haven't learned in 47 years. I'd like to say we were the generation that elected a principled man who ended all the wars and brought back our liberties. Ron Paul 2012. Cause liberty is a lot more important than the "safety" the government offers.
supermariofj 2 months ago
@supermariofj I like a lot of what Ron Paul stands for, but he is just too old. A 76 year old man has no business running for President.
trwent 1 month ago
@trwent believe me, the guy's a medical doctor and a genius. he sounds alot more intelligent and cognizant than all the other candidates. he's very fit for a 76 y/o. he recently ran in a marathon or something like that i believe.
supermariofj 1 month ago
@supermariofj Ran a marathon, huh? I didn't know that. I was just thinking about Reagan, who was a similar age (actually even younger I think) when he first ran for President. In his first term Reagan was okay, but in his second term he seemed lost and events seemed to totally control him rather than the other way around. As a result, unscrupulous subordinates like Oliver North and John Poindexter filled the void with their own agendas.
trwent 1 month ago
@trwent yeah. but i know, looking at him and researching him, he's miles above the other candidates in experience, knowledge, and integrity.
supermariofj 1 month ago
@supermariofj If only the dems were socialist. It wouldn't be as bad. Instead they are warmongering corporatist, just like the repubs.
Ron Paul 2012
steveomac385 2 weeks ago
@steveomac385 socialists and corporatists are just as bad. I prefer freedom from the state AND the elite. but yeah, Ron Paul 2012!
supermariofj 1 week ago
and I find myself in a place where people are arguing over which politician was the scummiest... yup. That would be YouTube comments. The 7 billionth human is on the planet now, you folks better start figuring this stuff out promptly.
skepticalsinner 4 months ago
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DII117 4 months ago
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Krocotto 4 months ago 2
@Krocotto Dey Durk a Jurbs ><
DII117 4 months ago
@DII117 TO THE PILE!
Krocotto 4 months ago
In as far as lying to the public LBJ was only a bit player in this unlike George Bush whose entire presidency was an exercise in lies, deception, excuses, and general bullshit.
jtaray 5 months ago
LBJ did not put us in Vietnam, that was done in 1954 by Eisenhower. The entire country was to get elections after the partition but the US reneged because a poll showed the Ho Chi Mien would win. So we propped up Vo Nguyen Giap because he was a Christian. Vietnam was about 80% Buddhist.
jtaray 5 months ago
The biggest problem with Americans is we don’t understand; the president has only so much power. For instance: the so called “Black Underclass” has been there since Jim Crow. It is not a construct of LBJ but of institutionalized racism that did not offer any opportunities to people of color in education and job placement. Affirmative Action was a process to address this problem by giving private industry incentive to hire Black People.
jtaray 5 months ago
Al Gore really should have aired a recreation of this in his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush. It could have saved America 8 years of ineptitude and incompetence, the effects of wish are still strongly felt today.
torylivingston 5 months ago
i love this kind of "negative campain" its brilliant!
knezoskin 5 months ago
If only present-day Democrats appealed to emotions/fear rather than reason/intelligence (as they do now) THEY'D win a lot more elections in the US House, US Senate and Presidency. One only has to look at how fear won the Democrats the New York Representative seat, where it was beholden to a conservative for decades. However, the Democrat's fear-monger propaganda about Republican's dismantling/abolishing Medicare isn't far off. Gotta use fear in America to win it!
Djmemez 6 months ago
classic fear mongering
CamsLiveVideo 6 months ago
I was one of the fortunate, depending on how you look at it, to have seen that commercial. I still remember where I was and who was there.
GG1man 7 months ago
That's right, the man who gets this nation bogged down in Vietnam over the next four years, was actually considered the 'peace' candidate against Goldwater in that election.
ZiuoxZui 7 months ago
"What you do in advertising is you get your can of soup, and you hold it up to the audience and say 'It tastes great, it's full of iron, fiber and vitamins, you should buy some'. What we do in politics is hold up the other guys' can of soup and say 'It's poison, it'll kill you!'"
MrSwiket 7 months ago
LBJ never supported gun control, legalizing abortion or Gay marriage, He raised the defense budget to give poor people jobs killing foreign terrorists, kept the space program going to provide jobs for smart people, had the FBI wiretapping subversive groups in the interests of national security, and advocated a color blind society. His values weren't much different than those of President Bush,
Texasjim2007 7 months ago
BEST BY NOVEMBER 1958
Kartoonkid95 8 months ago
Yeah, they just don't make campaign ads like they used to.
TaimaDjinn 8 months ago 13
AuH20 would have started nuclear armageddon for his "values". LBJ created Medicare and signed the Civil Rights Act. Affirmative Action did not enslave any African-Americans but prevent a race war. Get your head out of your libertarian ass.
perdondaris 8 months ago
@perdondaris The so-called Great Society and war on poverty has created a permanent underclass of blacks in this country, making them permanently dependent on the gubmint. Go do the research and visit any inner city. Affirmative action is un-Constitutional, now being tossed out in case after case. And go fucking read 'Means of Ascent' by Robert Caro before you post another word. LBJ was a vain, insecure, arrogant man - and get your head out of your idiotic, uneducated left-wing ass.
RGiacobbe 8 months ago
@RGiacobbe Go suck on Nixons balls. You sound like Glenn Beck, you racist lying mother fucker. You'd rather see conservative assholes like Bush not give a fuck about black people at all.
AFCoulthard 5 months ago
@RGiacobbe
"war on poverty has created a permanent underclass of blacks in this country"
"Affirmative action is un-Constitutional"
"Go do the research and visit any inner city"
Where do you get this stuff? I don't even know where to begin. But just a tip when you are having a conversation in real life. Saying this kind of stuff, especially the inference that the "inner city" is where to find all these "blacks" and then using "gubmint"? People might get the idea that you are kind of bigoted.
mklylyly 3 months ago
@RGiacobbe lmfao did you just say "gubmint"? I'm done
mattVISTAsounds 3 days ago
The context of this commercial was Goldwater's statement that he would use nukes in Vietnam. That would have led to World War III. Goldwater was a lot of things: a libertarian, an ideologue and a principled man. What he wasn't was a responsible statesman and his principles were wrong--just as wrong for America in 1964 as they are wrong for America today.
perdondaris 8 months ago 2
@perdondaris Not a responsible statesman? Compared to who, LBJ? The man who lied repeatedly to his country, escalated a war that killed 60K US soldiers and 2M Vietnamese, a man who created such civil strife in his country that race riots broke out, a man who implemented policies that have enslaved black americans in a permanent poverty class. Right... Goldwater wasn't responsible but lying, amoral, vain, incompetent LBJ was. 2+2 doesnt = 4 in your universe I guess.
RGiacobbe 8 months ago 6
@RGiacobbe Please stop using facts to make your point.
BoldValiant 6 months ago
pfhh... LBJ is a saint... and Goldwater is greedy..... We were in Vietname HELPING (key word) the south vietnamiese.
88darthmaul 9 months ago
@88darthmaul You are clueless. Probably also massively ignorant.
RGiacobbe 9 months ago
@88darthmaul Well America had no charitable reason for assisting the South Vietnamese except holding back Communism for as long as possible because the American economy would have been thrown into turmoil if it or its Allies became Communist.
15GamingGuy 3 months ago
Nixon got us out?..who said that? Pressure from the Nation got us out. Regular college students and high school students were protesting, a novel idea, never done before. And we weren't going to stop. Boys were running to the Canadian border because they didn't want to go to Vietnam. They had to pull criminals out of jail and send them to Vietnam and they shot their own troops, they called it friendly fire. No the Nation said ENOUGH. Nixon, got the boot in '74. we pulled out in '75.
BBG0812 9 months ago
"We must either love each other, or we must die"
Great quote.
jerzy862 9 months ago
after the election and after vietnam interviewers asked goldwater what he would do in vietnam. He said, " their would'nt be a Vietnam. You wouldnt be able to grow a rice patty in vietnam"
they asked him what he meant.
He said he would of blown Vietnam off the map.
AxlesOfFate 9 months ago
Did not know this was a real ad
5835421 10 months ago
The one president who actually would have benefited by being an isolationist.
BUSean 10 months ago
You know, it wasn't LBJ who talked about the possibility of using nuclear weapons in Vietnam, it was Barry Goldwater. So, if the shoe fits, wear it. LBJ didn't get the US into that mess in southeast Asia.
heycarter 11 months ago
@heycarter You have absolutely no clue. LBJ lied about the gulf of tonkin incident as a reason to expand the war. That's a fact. He sent troops into Cambodia, illegally. That's a fact. He picked civilian bombing targets, illegally. That's a fact. And Goldwater was against a land war in SE asia until we were committed, then he wanted to end it quickly.
You guys that spout this shit about history w/no facts are amazing. Are you that fucking clueless about the rest of life also?
RGiacobbe 11 months ago 2
@RGiacobbe @heycater you are so correct. LBJ was a lying SOB that lied to keep war going then dogged our troops for following his orders
TWEETYPIE664 10 months ago
Barry Goldwater probably would've been the best president; but of course, Americans were more concerned about catering to the politically correct, hippie movement and re-elect the Dumbo-ears, jackass LBJ. I mean, why drop bombs and end the war when the Democrats can keep it going so we can lose the war in the media. Thank God Nixon got in there to end it - YES, NIXON is the ONLY REASON that war ended.
Mikey77B 11 months ago
@Mikey77B Sir, you are correct. You get the prize for the most accurate comment on this video so far.
RGiacobbe 11 months ago
@RGiacobbe Thank you very much, Sir. I only speak the truth and the truth is a very stubborn thing.
Mikey77B 11 months ago
@Mikey77B I agree that Nixon was the only reason the war ended. Too bad he dragged it out another four years. Ah well.
As for LBJ being part of the politically-correct, hippie movement, I think that is a complete inaccuracy. First, hippies never got involved with politics; you're thinking of the anti-war college punks. Second, Johnson was far from a bleeding heart. True, he did lie his way into Vietnam for fear of the hawk lobby, but he obsessed over "losing" Vietnam to the communists.
BlitztheDragon 10 months ago
@BlitztheDragon I wish it didn't go on another four years either. But it didn't start overnight so it wasn't going away overnight.
Mikey77B 10 months ago
@Mikey77B Yeah, I respect Nixon for that... but then Watergate came...
SurvivorPoison 9 months ago
its ads like this that have kept us from making significant progress in much of anything in the past 50 years
TheThedestructinator 11 months ago
I see Obama winning in 2012 because most of the potential canidates are too right wing.
The only one that could probably stand a chance against him is Mitt Romney because he's smart, charasmatic, and not that right wing. He could be a great president but because he's mormon, the republicans will never let him be nominated. *sighs*
Words from a liberal.
shadowVDP1 11 months ago
Very debatable tactics, but extremely effective.
Burtc1jdb 11 months ago
lol, i think how history is such a big hype in people's life, makes me laugh. It's history, literally.
joedude967 11 months ago
wtf was that?
estesoyojajaja 11 months ago
Johnson, another murderous socialist and blight on America.
mrearlygold 11 months ago
moral of this ad was, dont play near a nuclear testing ground silly girl.
irkiIIer 1 year ago 2
Weird what you learn about history while watching Madmen
scrappmutt2 1 year ago
Holy shit thats fucking nuts that's like really weighing on my mind
Darkknight96082 1 year ago
Nicolas your comments are far off base for it has nothing to do with being a woman or being from Alaska but the consensus she's simply not qualified intellectually to be President
adam32492 1 year ago
I remeber hearing something about "9 11" in this commercial, maybe a longer one, or a bit different. Either way, the anouncer said "9 11" CONSPERIACY. lol jk...
XIOIAN 1 year ago
Violent ads have been around for a long time. Olbermann thinks they started with the crosshairs ad.
fumetti 1 year ago
Cambodia invasion was under Nixon, not Johnson
mharris666 1 year ago
Barry Goldwater deserved to win.
Of course, as usual, the honest, lucid and intelligent person lost.
SniperMaske 1 year ago
@SniperMaske The typical American doesn't even know the definition of logic.
manmanguy 1 year ago
@SniperMaske Leave it to someone calling himself SniperMaske to speak for lucidity and intelligence ... But you're right, Reagan wasn't very lucid or intelligent. Neither was Bush II.
vantalge 1 year ago
@SniperMaske They were both nutcases. Goldwater advocated ending social security. People voted AGAINST him because he presented himself as a nutjob.
Yeah, Johnson used fear to his advantage and fucked us over with Vietnam but Goldwater was no better in his domestic policies than Johnson and his Vietnam insanity.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity True. Leading young men to die in a war no one wanted was exactly the same as ending a marginally constitutional, unfunded social program.
elricsmonte1987 1 year ago
@elricsmonte1987 A social program that, if ended, would put old people, particularly minorities, on the street to die.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity I wonder how humanity survived 500 000 years of history without social security.
kapsi 1 year ago
@kapsi By not dealing with taxes and only doing what the Lord or their King told them to do.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity An average person before was free to do whatever they wanted and paid maybe 5% taxes. Now people pay 50% taxes and can't take a shit without written permission from government.
kapsi 1 year ago
@kapsi Blame the subprime mortgage and everyone involved in that shitty idea.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity Yes I blame socialists like Clinton, Bush or Obama.
kapsi 1 year ago
@kapsi ....The banks and the actual people who couldn't pay for it... oh, nvm.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity If you don't know, the government is responsible for baks giving loans to people that can't pay.
kapsi 1 year ago
@kapsi Irresponsibility should be assessed equally and not blamed solely on the gov't. That's always the easy answer. "The gov't did it." and not... "People got too greedy because the gov't allowed it."
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
@MagatsutheCalamity You can blame people but they will acted rationally, and will do that again if they're given a chance. If someone gives you a house half-free, only an idiot wouldn't take it.
kapsi 1 year ago
@kapsi Not being able to pay for it is acting rationally? What?
MagatsutheCalamity 1 year ago
LBJ used "fear" as a persuader to vote for him and it worked.
Fear is the best way to change someone's attitude about something.
shaunikko 1 year ago 2
Thank you! I saw like 3 screenshots of this in my us history book and I just had to find the actual ad.
xRandax94 1 year ago
asshole johnson damaged America more than any man alive he gave the country away to the niggers and mexicoons
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
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My history teacher let us see this and we were laughing are heads off, not because of the girl not counting to ten properly, well it was mainly that, but Johnson seeming Americans (in that time period) were ONE...and I mean ONE!
Arizonepros 1 year ago
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Mastersrewdriver 1 year ago
I can see a version of this ad being produced in 2012 if Sarah Palin was the Republican nominee for President.
adam32492 1 year ago 36
@adam32492 Have you seen the version Obama, et al, have put out, trying to get START ratified in the lame duck session? Look up "Daisy Ad 2010."
Palin ain't so bad, eh?
tothewheel 1 year ago
Palin could not handle Katie Couric and has problems with anyone who has a different world view which is why she only speaks on Fox.
adam32492 1 year ago
@adam32492 how because she is a woman or because she is from Alaska? does that mean she is gonna blow shit up? your dumb, your probably a democrat, pissed off that your presidents overall approval rating is lower than LBJ's was, and you probably still breastfeed? let me know how far off the mark i am
nicholasjhoffman 1 year ago
@adam32492 You are absolutely right.
PiousAgnostic 9 months ago
Johnson continued Kennedy policy in Southeast Asia and got 58,000 young men killed and many more wounded and emotionally scarred for life. It brings to mind "Twilight's Last Gleaming" with Burt Lancaster.
samborez 1 year ago
the republicans called FDR a commie, yet a man who campaigned on not taking the nuclear option off the table is held up a hero and was wronged. Republicans never change, if they do it it good use of media if it's done to them it's dirty politics.
marvb250 1 year ago
I miss the days when fear mongering didn't know how to be subtle.
Bigd102030 1 year ago
I won't proclaim to know anything about LBJ, but this ad is crazy. If ever there was need of an example for the power of fear motivation to differentiating one brand from another , this is it.
marcbinkley 1 year ago
Never put a Texan in charge of fighting a war.
chunderf00t 1 year ago
lol the ad says 'vote democrat or die'
The0mnRand 1 year ago
Johnson the peace candidate, who sent 550,000 troops to Viet Nam, reversing the policy of President Kennedy; after all though LBJ was complicit in the murder of JFK, so that was to be expected. Started all those great welfare programs which have kept over 40 years of people reliant on the govt, at the loss of the freedoms and value of their money
ITILII 1 year ago
AuH20
sandythebear 1 year ago
The reality is the Ad is true Goldwater was nuts..they surveyed 9,000 psychiatrists only 670 said Goldwater was mentally capable of serving as president
Johnson was a giant who helped to pave the way for the down on his luck fellow...He saved this country from implosion within
say what you will about Vietnam and his lack of foreign policy but the fact is no one could have dealt with that situation .
LBJ for the USA
Seabetiger 1 year ago
@Seabetiger You don't know what you're talking about. The stunt you refer to was a dirty trick by Bill Moyers and Jack Valenti and instantly disavowed by the AMA and APA, and the Johnson camp was forced to pull that ad after running once. And you must be really politically ignorant if you think he saved the country from implosion, when he caused it. He lied us into the Vietnam War and lost control of his domestic policy.
RGiacobbe 1 year ago 19
@RGiacobbe They only had to air it once in Washington D.C: then denounce it, sit back and reap the benefit of the controversy.
Why pay to distribute an ad if you can get the press to distribute it for you for free?
Hikikomori013 1 year ago
@RGiacobbe well I'm not going to say LBJ was the greatest President we ever had, sure he had has major flaws but he did lead our country in most prosperous time in America. History may have viewed him better today had he not been involved in Vietnam.
darkshadow955 1 year ago
@Seabetiger You have a complete lack of knowledge of history. Johnson was an unstable power hungry social climber and conspired with a handful of texas oil barons and the mafia to killed Kennedy when me was going to be removed him from the ticket the next election cycle. He sank our efforts in Vietnam, created a welfare state that has killed our cities to this day.
matrix49A 1 year ago
@matrix49A yes sir
manmanguy 1 year ago
@Seabetiger God are you Stupid or what? Johnson only laid the groundwork for America getting it's ass kicked in Vietnam. Goldwater could have saved this country
auH2O in 2012
Rickard05 1 year ago
RGiacobbe Comments are Way the FUCK OF THE MARK!
HISTORY SAY SO !
THEIMPERIALDUCK 1 year ago
@THEIMPERIALDUCK
What history? Your own little distorted, ignorant wordview you stupid fuck? Fottiti testa cazzo.
RGiacobbe 1 year ago
The molst famous political commercial ever!
altfactor 1 year ago 2
This was only aired once, yet it made such a tremendous impact.
supriya95 1 year ago
Goldwater should of won.
MrTORYTOM 1 year ago
I'm kind of freaked out right now tbqh. Yikes.
BlueMonkeyHeads 1 year ago
...I cast my vote for Johnson...
NewKillerHootch 1 year ago
LOL THAT POOR GIRL!
AlphaBabOoN 1 year ago
I've always heard about this commercial, but I never thought I'd be able to see it. It's kind of scary.. Way to scare America.
Aristes 2 years ago
say what you will about LBJ...but he was a political genius!
fanofbond06 2 years ago 5
Political genius? Only if massive failure is considered political genius. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Consider his many failures: the gulf of tonkin resolution, his escalation policy, McNamara, his policy on counting war casualties, his bomb targeting, his "great society" now credited with creating the modern welfare state, his domestic agenda that led to race riots and escalating crime, etc. etc.
Go to school a few more years, read a book or two, then get back with us.
RGiacobbe 2 years ago
I'm not disagreeing with most of what you said, but what I meant when saying he was a political genius is that he knew how to further his agenda by using statements like "let us continue what JFK would have wanted" he manipulate Congress and the system as whole to get things that he wanted to be done turned into a reality. In that aspect, he WAS a political genius.
P.S. For your information, I am history major with published works and the recipient of several scholarship & awards
fanofbond06 2 years ago
Haha... you're 22. what "awards"?
RGiacobbe 2 years ago
You forgot to mention that this was the first time fear was used in a political TV ad.
NewKillerHootch 1 year ago
@RGiacobbe He can be 22 and still win awards and scholarships for his or her history major. Age doesn't matter how many awards he/she's received in their major of choice.
Now on to the matter of the video.
I would kill to see someone do a wtf boom for this.
darkking365 1 year ago
If you were comfortable in your abilities to debate, you wouldn't have to pull your phantom awards into the internet.
Just sayin'.
Aristes 2 years ago
@fanofbond06 Marvelous - now you can take your place in the ranks of all the other award-winning political geniuses who got us where we are today.
LoveVernors 1 year ago
@fanofbond06
And Obama has a Nobel Prize.
Hiraghm 1 year ago
@RGiacobbe If you'll notice, fanofbond06 said he was a political genius for his tactics during the campaign, not necessarily for his policies during his presidency. Also, if it hadn't been for the war he sent our men and women to, the "great society" he wanted would have been more extensive than it was at the time (not that that justifies escalating the war or breaking promises made during his campaign).
passionandperfection 1 year ago
@RGiacobbe What fanboy06 was saying was the fact that he could get elected. Sadly Politics is about how many people like you not what your ideas were. Running for office dosen't mean your capable for office. As you can see both these people or idiots just like in the 2004 election.
jjuusstmmee 1 year ago
Republicans = Historical Revisionists
iolanthela 2 years ago 4
This description you gave is a damned fallacy and you know it. Goldwater was INTENT on dropping nuclear bombs on Vietnam, he SAID SO PUBLICLY, MANY TIMES.
What the hell is wrong with you conservatives, all you EVER do is outright lie, it's despicable.
truthslap 2 years ago 4
@truthslap I'm not a conservative and I don't entirely agree with you. He never explicitly said he was INTENT on dropping bombs, he only said he was not discounting the possibility.
I actually had a chance to speak to Barry Goldwater's son about two weeks ago (also named Barry Goldwater) and was actually talking about this issue.
Proletariat12 2 years ago
To get off all the internet argument and rapid research on Wikipedia, I find this ad fascinating just from the historical viewpoint. And imagine if this had been aired today...Both parties would have raised hell, this was an incredibly powerful ad, and possibly over the top. But whats done is done, LBJ was elected president, Vietnam happened, we can't change that.
Thorovain 2 years ago 4
But was it art?
Benivey2 2 years ago 6
LBJ was one of my favorite presidents. People let his failure in Vietnam overshadow what he did at home. He was the greatest chief legislator thus far, passing more bills in his first Congress than any president before him. He made huge strides for civil rights, Medicare/Medicaid, welfare, education, housing, social security, to name a few. Not to mention the country's lowest poverty rate in history was during the 70s and could easily be attributed to LBJ's War on Poverty.
antman12pacntded 2 years ago
Johnson's administration laid the foundation for the destruction of the American dollar, strengthened the gap between rich and poor, overspent and pushed horribly unconstitutional bills, and created much of the problems faced by his successors, namely the inflation crisis and "energy" crisis of the 1970's. He is the undisputed worst President in US history.
JDODSON7 2 years ago
Wrong answer. STUPID JACK-OFF. AMERICA'S GROWING RELIANCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL WAS WHAT BROUGHT DOWN THE KEYNESIAN CURVE IN 1973. THE EFFECTS OF THE ENERGY CRISIS OF THE 1970'S STARTED AFTER NIXON PISSED OFF THE ARABS AFTER HE AIDED ISRAEL IN THE YOM KIPPUR IN 1973. THE ARABS AND THE AMERICANS WERE NEVER ON FRIENDLY TIES AFTER THAT CRISIS EITHER, UNTIL BOTH THE SOVIET-AFGHAN WAR AND THE PERSIAN GULF SOLIDIFIED THE PRESENT-DAY "FRIENDSHIP FEELING" BETWEEN THE TWO.
hulkyone 2 years ago
@HULKYONE TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE YOU SOUND SMARTER (only louder)
musicalmiller 2 years ago
Although I agree with the notion the LBJ was a rather incompetent president, you can't possibly play the what-if game and speculate that the man that publicly expressed the possibility of dropping another nuclear bomb would have done much better.
Where would this world be if that did happen, it's scary to think about.
SamKalirai 2 years ago
Yeah,the horrors of winning the Vietnam War,no race riots,labor union reform,and the dismantling of the Welfare State.
Truly we did this country a favor by reelecting that Goddamn Texan.
Christian121y 2 years ago
@Christian121y You have A LOW IQ. THE REPUBLICAN RICHARD NIXON COULDN'T EVEN GUARANTEE VICTORY IN VIETNAM. YOU NEED TO STOP SUCKING UP TO INFERIOR LOGIC. THAT IS WHAT COST YOUR PARTY THE EIGHT REMAINING YEARS OF OBAMA'S TERM IN THE FIRST PLACE
hulkyone 2 years ago
Nixon was a crook who just happened to be a republican.
Christian121y 2 years ago
So what. HE STILL COULDN'T GUARANTEE VICTORY IN VIETNAM. HE EXPANDED IT TO CAMBODIA EVEN
hulkyone 2 years ago
Christian121y, YOU ARE A STUPID, SHIT-MINDED JACK-OFF. IT'S JUST THE TRUTHFUL FACT. ARE YOU GOING TO WHINE I'M COMMUNIST NOW FOR DISAGREEING WITH YOU? LOL
hulkyone 2 years ago
@SamKalirai True, BUT JOHNSON'S REAL MISTAKE AS PRESIDENT WAS ESCALATING THE VIETNAM WAR. GOLDWATER WAS AN EGOMANIAC
hulkyone 2 years ago
Also SamKalirai, JOHNSON WOULD HAVE BEEN RANKED ONE OF THE TEN GREATEST PRESIDENTS TO THIS DAY HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIS ESCALATION OF THE VIETNAM WAR. Regarding domestic issues, he was a very strong leader
hulkyone 2 years ago
Not true. He would have had tremendous success raising taxes to fund an escalation of the war and devoting all the country's resources to it, and ignoring the Great Society, or getting out completely and devoting all the country's resources to the Great Society. His indecision was mostly due to his devotion to his domestic policy as well as his desire to continue JFK's legacy, namely fighting the war in Vietnam.
antman12pacntded 2 years ago
Barry Goldwater would have been a better President for that era. There would have been a swift and decisive end to the Vietnam war. We would not have a gash of a memorial in Washington to over 50,000 lives lost for what? While war is never a popular option, and the candidate opposing an unpopular war usually wins, it is always best to stay out of wars you have no intention of winning. Mr. Obama here's your lesson for Afghanistan!
yiminnybuck 2 years ago
@yiminnybuck Yeah, JOHNSON'S SUCCESSOR NIXON SURE WAS ABLE TO WIN THE WAR BY EXPANDING IT TO CAMBODIA. LOL. WARS ARE SHIT MOST OF THE TIME
hulkyone 2 years ago
Conducting a half assed attempt at destroying supply lines which weren't even the main staging areas for the Viet Minh and then retreating whose retreat was announced broadly for the whole world to see isn't "expanding it to cambodia"
Christian121y 2 years ago
North Vietnam WOULD BEEN TOO RISKY TO INVADE, GIVEN THE AFTERMATH OF THE KOREAN WAR. IT WOULD HAVE INCREASED THE CHANCES OF WORLD WAR III HAD THE TROOPS GONE FASTLY INTO THE AREA, AS IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE CHINESE BORDER. THE GOALS OF THE WAR WERE ABOUT DIVIDING THE VIETNAM PENINSULA, PROTECTING SOUTH VIETNAM FROM NORTH VIETNAM, AND ONLY INVADING NORTH VIETNAM IF THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION WAS CLEARLY MORE FAVORABLE TO THE ALLIED FORCES. THE ONLY LOGISTICAL OPTION WAS TO BOMB NORTH VIETNAM.
hulkyone 2 years ago
johnson:
google gulf of tonkin & u.s.s. liberty..
wtfbollos 2 years ago
crazy shit
fakenails89 2 years ago
LBJ was a political thug and an economic and social disaster.
ajgolfer1 2 years ago
Yes he was. The consequences of his disastrous presidency are felt even today. LBJ and GBW fight for the top spot spot as worse US president in the modern era.
RGiacobbe 2 years ago
George Balker Wush, lol.
ajgolfer1 2 years ago
No i think LBJ was a good president if you put aside the war.He wanted to end the war in peace and victory which lead to his down fall but the Johnson administration has been looked on favorably through out history so as the Kennedy administration
Nacho2333 2 years ago 6
Incorrect my friend. LBJ is considered a massive failure by historians, despite the Civil Rights Act. He lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident, lied about # of deaths in the war, and lied about fighting in Cambodia. He became consumed with the press and relied on McNamara & Kissinger for policy.
His Great Society created the modern welfare state. He was a vain, arrogant, insercure, vacuous man of no substance or principle.
Read Robert Caro's trilogy then get back to me.
RGiacobbe 2 years ago
well you know it could of been worst in this ad could of happened and i think it would have if Goldwater had won.
Nacho2333 2 years ago
Every time someone types "could of" instead of "could have", a liberal commie hippie is aborted.
ocontin40 2 years ago
We would not have had to wait
25 years for the cold war to end!
Winky395 2 years ago
@RGiacobbe Totally agree. My parents were Nixon-bashers, but personally I hated LBJ more than any "leader" before or since. "I won't be the first American President to lose a war, so you boys I've drafted go put the coonskin on the wall for me. Oh, BTW, from the comfort of our offices, Bob McNamara and I will be telling you exactly how many bullets you're allowed to fire." LBJ really began the general contempt and distrust so many Americans have toward their govt.
JaneFlemingPiano 1 year ago 2
@JaneFlemingPiano I personally was a fan of LBJ up until his dealings with Vietnam, that was his greatest downfall.
supriya95 1 year ago
I don't know how old you are or what you consider the "modern era" and I'm not GWB's biggest fan but Jimmy Carter beats him for worst Pres by a freakin' landslide i.e. IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS, double digit inflation & interest rates on home loans. And what about Warren Harding and Woodrow Wilson? Or Herbert Hoover? Do they count as modern era? All these are worse than GWB. Your memory of Bush is just too fresh and not truly reflecting history. But I agree about LBJ. And I remember his presidency.
yiminnybuck 2 years ago
Carter did suck as a president, BUT W. GAVE ALL OF US A WORSE ECONOMIC CRISIS. Carter's crisis revolved around America's reliance on Middle Eastern oil, WHILE W.'s CRISIS REVOLVED AROUND DOMESTIC CREDIT. I didn't like the fact that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid caved in to his war-spending requests at all, NOR DO I LIKE THE FACT THAT OBAMA CONTINUED THEM. But the economy is healing and we will not be expensively spending on the war for much longer,. BUSH WAS WORSE THAN EVEN CARTER, CASE CLOSED
hulkyone 2 years ago 4
Case might be closed for you dude. If you think the economy is healing because of a fake stimulus of which only 20% has even been committed you are mistaken. We haven't seen the worst of it. At least GWB had the decency to SHUT UP once he left office, Carter keeps making an international ass of himself even 30 years after he left office!
yiminnybuck 2 years ago
Obama is Carter phase II, and BOTH of them are far worse than Bush. Carter has grown more inept