@Caucasusdream I guess suppressive fire can be interpreted a few ways but the AR/M16 isn't a squad support weapon and mag dumping a few of these may cause problems. But once again my comment was pure sarcasm
@GunWebsites nobody I mean nobody needs hi-cap magazines........that said I spend half my time in crapifornia and I sure as hell want them ;) and sick of removing an reinstalling a stupid bullet button on my rifles when I come into or leave the state. It's not about need it's about the right to have and crapifornia is the worst when it comes to that I can't even have 30 round standard mags there.
@elox02 Yes you do. You need high capacity for combat. You need it for suppressive fire, fire and manouvre and so on. You might also need it to handle large crowds of hostiles.
@ThePerfectOryan. That rifle has a carbine length gas system (not gas piston) carbine hand guards what looks to be a 10.5" barrel also the gas port size and buffer weight also differs from the m16. Not sure if newer m16 have the m4 feed ramp cuts in receiver and extension. BCG are the same you can even swap uppers and lowers between m16&m4 only problem may be buffer weight and that's an easy fix(removing tungsten weights)
@48freako The M16 series has a longer barrel than the M4. They're both based on ArmaLite's AR-15's though. The word "carbine" explains its difference actually -- a carbine is a shortened version of a similar longer rifle.
@nexus1g And m4 also has collapsble 4 postion stock and uses a different, more shorter handguard and a possible a shorter gas piston design.... Im pretty sure M4A1s are select fire capable of full auto, the M4 however is burst fire.
@ThePerfectOryan The stock doesn't make it an M4. You can put the same stock on an M16 and it's still an M16 and vice verse. Same with the body. Most M16 models have safe-semi-auto trigger pack just like the M4. The exceptions are some M16A1's, all M16A2's and all M16A4's. They both fire the same 5.56 rounds. The M4 was also designed to have almost all parts in common with the M16. In the end, the only true difference in the end between an M16 and an M4 is a shorter barrel.
@nexus1g -_- And a different handguard, if you look closes M4 has a shorter more compact handguard. Also all M16 series come in with a solid stock as a standard.
I don't know if yours is different. But when I have a total 60 rounds in mine, the rounds top off on the left/magrelease cut side of the magazine. It looks like yours has 59 in it. But I did just get mine. So I might be wrong. I counted a little while ago, loading 60 and my last round indexs off the left side (release cut) of the mag, Thoughts?
M16 is a variant of the AR15. Think of the AR15 as the "base model" originally made by ArmaLite, then rights to the design sold to Colt- who made the M16 based off the AR15. This gun however looks an M4A1 (carbine), which is based of the M16, based off the AR15. lol.
Also, he could have very well just bought a carbine barrel and put it on an M16, changed the stock, etc.
@scottcain2005 6.8 SPC doesn't really fit standard G.I. magazines, at least not without severely downloading them. 6.8 SPC really requires it's own, dedicated magazines (PRI, Barrett). .300 Blackout should work just fine in Surefire's magazines, though.
@brandonmckenzie1 Because of the short barrel and full auto option you have to be 21 and pay $200.00 for each permit, full auto and short barrel. But you can get a bad ass AR15 with semi auto only and a minimum 16" barrel when your 18. It looks exactly the same, only difference is the barrel length.
@105sabot. You are incorrect. If the NFA item is a machine gun or full auto as depicted in the video you only need to pay for one tax stamp which is the machine gun itself. It can have any length of barrel whether it be a 10.5" or a 20". If you add a suppressor, that is an additional item and it requires a tax stamp as well. There is no "permit" it is simply a 200.00 tax.
@iraqgunz37 You certainly know your shit, and as insightful as it may be, starting a semantic argument over "permit" as opposed to "stamp" is just missing to point. Ok, it's good to know, that only one "stamp" NOT "permit" (even though the purchasing of the stamp "permits" one to own the weapon) is required for a short barreled carbine with an automatic option rather than one to cover each. But don't get all gun nut on me ok? I know guns better than you think, I don't need schooling on You Tube.
@105sabot . Well then you should have been more clear. Alot of sh*t and rumors are spread via the internet because people cannot articulate what they mean. Kind of like when the media calls a semi-automatic AK47 copy an "assault weapon" or a Glock with an extended magazine a "hi-powered weapon".
@iraqgunz37 Technically speaking, any rife designed for use in an assault is an assault rifle. I have a semi automatic AR15 which is still a variant of Eugene Stonner's original design which was an assault rifle, there-by making my AR15 as an Assault Rifle. Do you know what we bottom feeders who focus on a little more than just guns calls an AR15 with a semi auto only selection? A "Semi Automatic-Assault rifle." Fuck off with your technicalities, or shove 'em up your fucking asshole....
@105sabot - An assasult rifle by definition must be capable of select-fire (either burst of full auto). This is well recognized by those in the industry. So regardless of which version of "semi auto" you have, it isn't an assault rifle. So for someone who claims to be gun smart you sure seem to get upset about things like "technicalities". Maybe you should spend some hands on time with some weapons instead reading about them on the internet. Unlike you I won't resort to petty ass name caliing.
You sure do get your panties in a knot when you are wrong. You should know these "technicalities" better so you don't look like an idiot in front of others who know what they are talking about.
By definition alone an assault rifle has selective firing (semi and burst or full). That is what MAKES it an assault rifle. If it lacks that feature, it is no different then any other rifle. You wouldn't call a M48 Mauser a "Bolt action assault rifle" - would you?
@xCh34pShOtx .223 is 5.56x45mm NATO. The naming of ammunition in general refers to the diameter of the bullet. Although not always, for example 38 special is really 0.357 inches in diameter, the reasoning behind this is to not confuse it with the .357 magnum round.
5.56x45mm NATO is 5.56mm in diameter which is 0.223 inches, thus the difference in name. It's just due to the imperial system being used in the US, whereas NATO (including the US military) uses metric.
@Karenronwood No, it isn't. .223 Remington, while dimensionally the same as 5.56x45mm NATO, operates at lower pressures. You can shoot .223 out of a weapon chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO, but not the other way around.
@JRSK818 ya same here, but im going to move to other, more hostile environments like LA or something like that when i move to SWAT. and im sure some do purchase their weapons legaly, but they can only do that once, after you get in trouble (felony) you cant own/ purchase guns. but i dont care if you where to make guns illegal, there still would be bad, bad people out there with guns. only the good guys follow the law, the rapists, murderurs, just bad people dont.
@humboldtgunguy Restricting legal access to firearms only makes it harder for honest citizens to arm themselves for whatever reason, be it sport, hunting, or defense. Criminals don't just walk into a gun shop, buy a Glock, walk out with it, and go on a murderous rampage. There's a waiting period where they do a criminal background check before they give you your weapon. If firearms were banned, it wouldn't stop criminals from attaining them. They don't care if it's illegal, they're criminals.
Just wondering: Why would one need such a large-capacity magazine? When shooting prarie dogs, I don't think it's too much of an imposition on the shooter to take a few seconds to change magazines. It seems to me that such a magazine makes it all the more easy for the Jared Lee Loughner-types to kill more people without having the trouble of getting tackled by bystanders before gettting that other mag in the well. I'm not anti-gun, by the way. I'm from a hunting family myself.
It's too bad that you feel that you have to demean others who post here. My comment was just a thought that I have on occasion about this topic, that's all. I'm not against guns or your right to manufacture or own high-capacity magazines. I'm not claiming that I'm correct in my thinking, like you seem you think you are (have you ever questioned YOUR own assumptions?). I'm just thinking about it: Does this particular freedom (high-capacity mags) outweigh potential harms?
I reply .. if you feel 'demeaned' that is your issue..
Your reply was, as you said " just a thought that I have on occasion"..
my position is a commonly held, shared belief, with the Constitution of the United States in our corner..
so many people including myself have thought hard about our "assumptions" as you say
Again, you like to think you are knowledgeable about firearms, but by insisting that magazines are the 'cause' of a persons actions, however, you prove yourself wrong
I never said that I was knowledgeable about firearms (this seems to be important to you, I see: Like it's the "mark of a man" or something), just that I come from a hunting family. So I know about the opinions of people regarding guns. And, no, magazines are not the cause of people's actions, (and again, I never said that). I did imply, however, that perhaps high-capacity magazines could possibly facilitate the ease of illegal killings. And you seem not to want to address this
I'm just thinking that maybe a little more "balance" between our constitutional rights and public safety MAY be someting that us gun-owners could agree to in regards to high-capacity mags; Not via new laws, but via gun-owners' consensus. I agree to the right to bear arms, but I do believe in balance. If an extreme, "have no qualms" freedom-of-firearms opinion is taken to its logical conclusion, then the citizenry should be allowed to own and wield other kinds, like nuclear weapons.
are you realy comparing a 30 rnd mag to nuclear weapons? im in california, i have to buy 2-3 times as many mags, just to be able to go to the range and not have to shoot 30-40 rnds then have to reload. and it doesnt realy stop the criminals, a few years back a guy a few houses down got caught with a bunch o drugs, full auto ak47, and a ton of 30 rnd mags. ya, gun laws make me feel so much better. he was just a few houses down. im limited by law to be less capable than the bad guy
I'm not saying that there aren't serious problems with agreeing to how many bullets in a magazine is "too many"(!) However, I think we just need to be mindful of society: The philosopher/author Ayn Rand is wrong when she said that people are all just 'solitary ships at sea,' relying solely on our own self-determination. We are social beings that emerge out of relationships with others. I think it's our ethical obligation to consider the welfare of others in addition to our own rights.
Again, I'm not insisting that I'm RIGHT about this... I just thought it would be instructive for myself to get your views on this issue. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong?
I won't comment here again. I'll let you have the last word.
Thanks for the calm conversation, you are more than welcome to voice your opinion
I still don't agree of course, 'knowing guns has nothing to do with 'mark of a man' instead it has everything to do with knowing that any gun can be fired just as many times in a minute with a 10 round mag, a 30 round mag, a 5 round or a 100 round drum
Changing magazines is just not difficult / time consuming, many test have been done to prove that
You are fighting for a useless / meaningless restriction
what if instead of trying to tackle him in a reload, you pull out your gun and eliminate the threat alot safer than if you tryed to take down a guy with a gun. so, dont eliminate some freedoms because you fear what may happen, just remember there are good people out there that want a 60rnd mag that would put their life on the line to save yours when the bad guy is using his 60rnd mag. and if you were to ask him if he still supports the laws, he would say yes b4 you finnished asking
@mlovmo Why not have a high capacity magazine? The amount of bullets a person can carry does not change his philosophy, values or intent.
Though you profess to be from a hunting family why do still see a firearm purely as a way to harm humans?
When someone has set themselves to harm or kill another human they have already over-written a basic law of even the most primitive societies, so what makes you think that regulations become a concern.
Because we have many large citys and black markets that create unregulated commerce between criminals. where do you live that there isn't any violence? I bet I'd rather live here
Can you please post some video shooting AR with this Surfire in prone position?
I think Surefire should think about some 40 rounder that would be same or shorter than standard 30 rouder. It would be much beter for the military guys.
I'm so glad we are free. I'm so glad that politicians don't violate the constitution. I mean if they did then they would probably ignore the 10th amendment. Oh wait...
@GunWebsites People look at SF's high prices, but they don't even think about their incredible warranty.
It can't be cheap for a company to ship out all of the flashlight/gun parts that they do on a daily basis. Most of the parts they ship out are "free of charge' to the end user. All of that has to be figured into their overall cost of doing business. Otherwise, they'd go broke...
Hater= unsolicited vocal dislike for no apparent reason
You seriously think Surefire is charging way more for stuff, just because they can?
then you must also think there are people at Surefire riding limos around laughing at all their sucker customers
I don't think so
I think they are a 100% US company employing people who innovate, design and create cool products which are then made by US workers and sold to US customers (for the most part)
@GunWebsites oh believe me, i would. but i somehow doubt the criminals in washington will ever give that power back to we the people. not onlt would we have to get rid of the NFA all together, but nullify the Hughes amendment
I swear every time I watch your videos I hate the fact that I live in Cali, but then I go outside and see all the hot chicks and remember why I like living here.
Hopefully through the CRPA, we can get some of these senseless laws out and we can enjoy our State a little more :) If not, road trip to AZ/Nevada! I have two magazine kits just for that.
@shirleythehunter *snort* I'll let you know, CoD is a incredibly realistic shooter! You can turn around and shoot a sniper without aiming! Who aims a sniper in real life? *snort*
I'm in cali and if anyone else here is too, please call or email your reps. the devil Kevin De Leon is proposing two more bills that totally sensless. vote down sb124 and sb798.
Please vote or at least let your reps know how you feel cause crying about it or protesting ain't cutting it. we have to get political these days. thanks!
Yes an "issued" weapon will most likely have some form of rail on it whether DD or KAC or whatever the end-user chooses. When I say end-user I am not referring to an individual. Either way, LMT sells these to whomever minus the handguards. BCM sells these the exact same way.
I hear what you're saying but its not a "MK18" unless its fits the specs. The Specs are DD or LMT 10.3-10.5 Upper with KAC or DD rail. Everything else is just a clone.
Were you able to take it apart and see how it works? I'm guessing it has a expandable follower that collapses as it passes through the necked down section. ??
how are those howard leight earpros?
Andelin09 2 days ago
@Andelin09
pretty good, I know a lot of people who use them
GunWebsites 2 days ago
@Caucasusdream I guess suppressive fire can be interpreted a few ways but the AR/M16 isn't a squad support weapon and mag dumping a few of these may cause problems. But once again my comment was pure sarcasm
elox02 6 days ago
@Caucasusdream I guess my sarcasm was lost via txt huh.
elox02 6 days ago
Much respect for the M16, but i couldn't bring myself to buy a full auto one, a gun that shits were it eats just isn't my thing.
delzottoj 2 weeks ago
@calva46 neither.
elox02 3 weeks ago
is that a commando or m16 because it looks like a commando
calva46 3 weeks ago
I love that little rifle.
miGsKills 1 month ago
does the bolt lock back with the surefire mags? thanks!
edrees1o1 1 month ago
@GunWebsites nobody I mean nobody needs hi-cap magazines........that said I spend half my time in crapifornia and I sure as hell want them ;) and sick of removing an reinstalling a stupid bullet button on my rifles when I come into or leave the state. It's not about need it's about the right to have and crapifornia is the worst when it comes to that I can't even have 30 round standard mags there.
elox02 1 month ago
@elox02 Yes you do. You need high capacity for combat. You need it for suppressive fire, fire and manouvre and so on. You might also need it to handle large crowds of hostiles.
Caucasusdream 6 days ago
@ThePerfectOryan. That rifle has a carbine length gas system (not gas piston) carbine hand guards what looks to be a 10.5" barrel also the gas port size and buffer weight also differs from the m16. Not sure if newer m16 have the m4 feed ramp cuts in receiver and extension. BCG are the same you can even swap uppers and lowers between m16&m4 only problem may be buffer weight and that's an easy fix(removing tungsten weights)
elox02 1 month ago
GO LEFTIES!!!
ThatDudeSirraj 1 month ago
Some modern colt commando derivative?
ThePerfectOryan 1 month ago
Dear Santa..
SuperGman213 1 month ago
what is the differnce between m16 and maverick m4a1 carbine?
48freako 1 month ago
@48freako The M16 series has a longer barrel than the M4. They're both based on ArmaLite's AR-15's though. The word "carbine" explains its difference actually -- a carbine is a shortened version of a similar longer rifle.
nexus1g 1 month ago
@nexus1g And m4 also has collapsble 4 postion stock and uses a different, more shorter handguard and a possible a shorter gas piston design.... Im pretty sure M4A1s are select fire capable of full auto, the M4 however is burst fire.
ThePerfectOryan 1 month ago
@ThePerfectOryan The stock doesn't make it an M4. You can put the same stock on an M16 and it's still an M16 and vice verse. Same with the body. Most M16 models have safe-semi-auto trigger pack just like the M4. The exceptions are some M16A1's, all M16A2's and all M16A4's. They both fire the same 5.56 rounds. The M4 was also designed to have almost all parts in common with the M16. In the end, the only true difference in the end between an M16 and an M4 is a shorter barrel.
nexus1g 1 month ago
@nexus1g -_- And a different handguard, if you look closes M4 has a shorter more compact handguard. Also all M16 series come in with a solid stock as a standard.
ThePerfectOryan 1 month ago
@ThePerfectOryan Again, what stock, hand guard, body, etc. the gun has does not make it an M4 or M16.
nexus1g 1 month ago
@48freako There's a notable difference in the trigger pack of the M16A2 though in that it only has safe-semi-burst options -- no full auto.
nexus1g 1 month ago
M16 look like the m4
McLoven975 2 months ago
@McLoven975 the M16 was the original gun, and the M4 is technically an M16A3 carbine, so still an M16.
Anyways, anyone notice how the rate of fire increased as he kept firing?
nerfnut 2 months ago
@nerfnut a carbine version based on M16A2 to be more precise.
ThePerfectOryan 1 month ago
@ThePerfectOryan /facepalm
Ohright, my bad ^^' thanks
nerfnut 1 month ago
is that an M4 right????
MrCjm21 2 months ago
looks pretty good also on battlefield 3 :)
pizo99 2 months ago
its not like M16
M16 is much longer than that.
Also, M16 does not have butt adjustment..
amanccx 2 months ago
Left handed :D
xM4JoRx 2 months ago
@xM4JoRx
we get government tax breaks by employing "other handed" people
GunWebsites 2 months ago 24
@GunWebsites Best thing i have ever heard! LOL
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@GunWebsites Best thing i have ever heard! LOL
Montyfiable 1 month ago
I don't know if yours is different. But when I have a total 60 rounds in mine, the rounds top off on the left/magrelease cut side of the magazine. It looks like yours has 59 in it. But I did just get mine. So I might be wrong. I counted a little while ago, loading 60 and my last round indexs off the left side (release cut) of the mag, Thoughts?
DasBulk 2 months ago
Looks like an AR15. I thought the m16 had a longer barrel
ScatmanJoeButt 3 months ago
@ScatmanJoeButt
M16 is a variant of the AR15. Think of the AR15 as the "base model" originally made by ArmaLite, then rights to the design sold to Colt- who made the M16 based off the AR15. This gun however looks an M4A1 (carbine), which is based of the M16, based off the AR15. lol.
Also, he could have very well just bought a carbine barrel and put it on an M16, changed the stock, etc.
DocShay 2 months ago
cool sixty round mag, sucks here in cali
johnnyfisalive 3 months ago
@EZairsoft
no one would be that stupid.. well cept you
GunWebsites 3 months ago
m16's have rof selectors?
maziku 3 months ago
Lucky,I love that gun,I just can't get it D:
Fludd200 3 months ago
video starts at 1:55
taylor289706 4 months ago
@scottcain2005 6.8 SPC doesn't really fit standard G.I. magazines, at least not without severely downloading them. 6.8 SPC really requires it's own, dedicated magazines (PRI, Barrett). .300 Blackout should work just fine in Surefire's magazines, though.
Nater245689 4 months ago
how old do u have to be to buy this gun??
brandonmckenzie1 4 months ago
@brandonmckenzie1
21
GunWebsites 4 months ago 4
@brandonmckenzie1 Because of the short barrel and full auto option you have to be 21 and pay $200.00 for each permit, full auto and short barrel. But you can get a bad ass AR15 with semi auto only and a minimum 16" barrel when your 18. It looks exactly the same, only difference is the barrel length.
105sabot 4 months ago
@105sabot. You are incorrect. If the NFA item is a machine gun or full auto as depicted in the video you only need to pay for one tax stamp which is the machine gun itself. It can have any length of barrel whether it be a 10.5" or a 20". If you add a suppressor, that is an additional item and it requires a tax stamp as well. There is no "permit" it is simply a 200.00 tax.
iraqgunz37 3 months ago
@iraqgunz37 You certainly know your shit, and as insightful as it may be, starting a semantic argument over "permit" as opposed to "stamp" is just missing to point. Ok, it's good to know, that only one "stamp" NOT "permit" (even though the purchasing of the stamp "permits" one to own the weapon) is required for a short barreled carbine with an automatic option rather than one to cover each. But don't get all gun nut on me ok? I know guns better than you think, I don't need schooling on You Tube.
105sabot 3 months ago
@105sabot . Well then you should have been more clear. Alot of sh*t and rumors are spread via the internet because people cannot articulate what they mean. Kind of like when the media calls a semi-automatic AK47 copy an "assault weapon" or a Glock with an extended magazine a "hi-powered weapon".
iraqgunz37 3 months ago
@iraqgunz37
well said, thanks
GunWebsites 3 months ago
@iraqgunz37 Technically speaking, any rife designed for use in an assault is an assault rifle. I have a semi automatic AR15 which is still a variant of Eugene Stonner's original design which was an assault rifle, there-by making my AR15 as an Assault Rifle. Do you know what we bottom feeders who focus on a little more than just guns calls an AR15 with a semi auto only selection? A "Semi Automatic-Assault rifle." Fuck off with your technicalities, or shove 'em up your fucking asshole....
105sabot 3 months ago
@105sabot - An assasult rifle by definition must be capable of select-fire (either burst of full auto). This is well recognized by those in the industry. So regardless of which version of "semi auto" you have, it isn't an assault rifle. So for someone who claims to be gun smart you sure seem to get upset about things like "technicalities". Maybe you should spend some hands on time with some weapons instead reading about them on the internet. Unlike you I won't resort to petty ass name caliing.
iraqgunz37 3 months ago
@105sabot
You sure do get your panties in a knot when you are wrong. You should know these "technicalities" better so you don't look like an idiot in front of others who know what they are talking about.
By definition alone an assault rifle has selective firing (semi and burst or full). That is what MAKES it an assault rifle. If it lacks that feature, it is no different then any other rifle. You wouldn't call a M48 Mauser a "Bolt action assault rifle" - would you?
DocShay 2 months ago
@105sabot
defending ignorance?
GunWebsites 3 months ago
No flash
gogpoydi 4 months ago
I thought you couldn't use .223 on M16s?
xCh34pShOtx 5 months ago
@xCh34pShOtx
that is not correct
GunWebsites 5 months ago 3
@xCh34pShOtx .223 is 5.56x45mm NATO. The naming of ammunition in general refers to the diameter of the bullet. Although not always, for example 38 special is really 0.357 inches in diameter, the reasoning behind this is to not confuse it with the .357 magnum round.
5.56x45mm NATO is 5.56mm in diameter which is 0.223 inches, thus the difference in name. It's just due to the imperial system being used in the US, whereas NATO (including the US military) uses metric.
Karenronwood 5 months ago
@Karenronwood No, it isn't. .223 Remington, while dimensionally the same as 5.56x45mm NATO, operates at lower pressures. You can shoot .223 out of a weapon chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO, but not the other way around.
Nater245689 4 months ago
fuck you
Coringatomcat 4 months ago
@Coringatomcat suck my hairy sack fat fuckin nerd
xCh34pShOtx 4 months ago
@xCh34pShOtx m16 is chambered for 5.56, so its safe to shoot .223 in it. but you shouldnt shoot 5.56 in a .223 gun.
Glockcrazy19 3 months ago
Surefire mags clean as a whistle.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
that's so damn cool. I had no idea something like this existed. Beauty of the internet.
thetiniestbullfrog 5 months ago
that's so damn cool. I had no idea something like this existed. Beauty of the internet.
thetiniestbullfrog 5 months ago
@JRSK818 ya same here, but im going to move to other, more hostile environments like LA or something like that when i move to SWAT. and im sure some do purchase their weapons legaly, but they can only do that once, after you get in trouble (felony) you cant own/ purchase guns. but i dont care if you where to make guns illegal, there still would be bad, bad people out there with guns. only the good guys follow the law, the rapists, murderurs, just bad people dont.
humboldtgunguy 5 months ago
@humboldtgunguy Restricting legal access to firearms only makes it harder for honest citizens to arm themselves for whatever reason, be it sport, hunting, or defense. Criminals don't just walk into a gun shop, buy a Glock, walk out with it, and go on a murderous rampage. There's a waiting period where they do a criminal background check before they give you your weapon. If firearms were banned, it wouldn't stop criminals from attaining them. They don't care if it's illegal, they're criminals.
Karenronwood 5 months ago
@Karenronwood Jared Loughner did, others surely have too.
Nater245689 4 months ago
nice...
TheJackyBear 6 months ago
Give me this gun.
PowerFullWolf 6 months ago
magpuul mags are best
Skater4Bmx 6 months ago
iwould like to buy one of those magazines how much did you paid for it
blackhawkbluedog1 6 months ago
It seems that it shoots faster the longer you hold the trigger.That's pretty interesting.
lordofgangstas 7 months ago
@Siniztar88
you are again showing your ignorance since "guns from wallmart" are used in about zero crime..
sorry attempt at criticism, you fail
GunWebsites 7 months ago
@GunWebsites
Just wondering: Why would one need such a large-capacity magazine? When shooting prarie dogs, I don't think it's too much of an imposition on the shooter to take a few seconds to change magazines. It seems to me that such a magazine makes it all the more easy for the Jared Lee Loughner-types to kill more people without having the trouble of getting tackled by bystanders before gettting that other mag in the well. I'm not anti-gun, by the way. I'm from a hunting family myself.
mlovmo 6 months ago
@mlovmo
you have very different ideas about freedom than I do
Too bad you parrot anti-freedom fears, it sounds like you don't know much about firearms although you claim to..
GunWebsites 6 months ago
@GunWebsites
It's too bad that you feel that you have to demean others who post here. My comment was just a thought that I have on occasion about this topic, that's all. I'm not against guns or your right to manufacture or own high-capacity magazines. I'm not claiming that I'm correct in my thinking, like you seem you think you are (have you ever questioned YOUR own assumptions?). I'm just thinking about it: Does this particular freedom (high-capacity mags) outweigh potential harms?
mlovmo 6 months ago
@mlovmo
I reply .. if you feel 'demeaned' that is your issue..
Your reply was, as you said " just a thought that I have on occasion"..
my position is a commonly held, shared belief, with the Constitution of the United States in our corner..
so many people including myself have thought hard about our "assumptions" as you say
Again, you like to think you are knowledgeable about firearms, but by insisting that magazines are the 'cause' of a persons actions, however, you prove yourself wrong
GunWebsites 6 months ago
@GunWebsites
I never said that I was knowledgeable about firearms (this seems to be important to you, I see: Like it's the "mark of a man" or something), just that I come from a hunting family. So I know about the opinions of people regarding guns. And, no, magazines are not the cause of people's actions, (and again, I never said that). I did imply, however, that perhaps high-capacity magazines could possibly facilitate the ease of illegal killings. And you seem not to want to address this
mlovmo 6 months ago
I'm just thinking that maybe a little more "balance" between our constitutional rights and public safety MAY be someting that us gun-owners could agree to in regards to high-capacity mags; Not via new laws, but via gun-owners' consensus. I agree to the right to bear arms, but I do believe in balance. If an extreme, "have no qualms" freedom-of-firearms opinion is taken to its logical conclusion, then the citizenry should be allowed to own and wield other kinds, like nuclear weapons.
mlovmo 6 months ago
@mlovmo
are you realy comparing a 30 rnd mag to nuclear weapons? im in california, i have to buy 2-3 times as many mags, just to be able to go to the range and not have to shoot 30-40 rnds then have to reload. and it doesnt realy stop the criminals, a few years back a guy a few houses down got caught with a bunch o drugs, full auto ak47, and a ton of 30 rnd mags. ya, gun laws make me feel so much better. he was just a few houses down. im limited by law to be less capable than the bad guy
humboldtgunguy 6 months ago 33
@humboldtgunguy MOVE YOUR ASS OUT OF LIBERAL CALIF.
longjb1 2 months ago
@humboldtgunguy I think gun laws should only apply to those with a criminal record only.
nexus1g 1 month ago
@nexus1g Hell yeah bro. What a great idea. Here in Australia, they took away our semi autos many years ago. Never let them take your guns.
TheSloth93 1 month ago
@humboldtgunguy hey bro how can i buy a m16 in california i looked all over in gun stores and cant find any
OGKILLa9365 1 month ago
I'm not saying that there aren't serious problems with agreeing to how many bullets in a magazine is "too many"(!) However, I think we just need to be mindful of society: The philosopher/author Ayn Rand is wrong when she said that people are all just 'solitary ships at sea,' relying solely on our own self-determination. We are social beings that emerge out of relationships with others. I think it's our ethical obligation to consider the welfare of others in addition to our own rights.
mlovmo 6 months ago
Again, I'm not insisting that I'm RIGHT about this... I just thought it would be instructive for myself to get your views on this issue. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong?
I won't comment here again. I'll let you have the last word.
mlovmo 6 months ago
@mlovmo
Thanks for the calm conversation, you are more than welcome to voice your opinion
I still don't agree of course, 'knowing guns has nothing to do with 'mark of a man' instead it has everything to do with knowing that any gun can be fired just as many times in a minute with a 10 round mag, a 30 round mag, a 5 round or a 100 round drum
Changing magazines is just not difficult / time consuming, many test have been done to prove that
You are fighting for a useless / meaningless restriction
GunWebsites 6 months ago
@mlovmo you're a faggot. come back and have a verbal joust with me!
jp66669 5 months ago
@mlovmo
what if instead of trying to tackle him in a reload, you pull out your gun and eliminate the threat alot safer than if you tryed to take down a guy with a gun. so, dont eliminate some freedoms because you fear what may happen, just remember there are good people out there that want a 60rnd mag that would put their life on the line to save yours when the bad guy is using his 60rnd mag. and if you were to ask him if he still supports the laws, he would say yes b4 you finnished asking
humboldtgunguy 6 months ago
@mlovmo Why not have a high capacity magazine? The amount of bullets a person can carry does not change his philosophy, values or intent.
Though you profess to be from a hunting family why do still see a firearm purely as a way to harm humans?
When someone has set themselves to harm or kill another human they have already over-written a basic law of even the most primitive societies, so what makes you think that regulations become a concern.
Menuki 3 months ago
@Siniztar88
LOL, yea.. you are not really in a good position to preach to others about guns & violence
GunWebsites 7 months ago 2
@Siniztar88
Because we have many large citys and black markets that create unregulated commerce between criminals. where do you live that there isn't any violence? I bet I'd rather live here
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Can you please post some video shooting AR with this Surfire in prone position?
I think Surefire should think about some 40 rounder that would be same or shorter than standard 30 rouder. It would be much beter for the military guys.
corranpl 7 months ago
@moeham2395 lol just you...
Zachhecrote14 7 months ago
I'm so glad we are free. I'm so glad that politicians don't violate the constitution. I mean if they did then they would probably ignore the 10th amendment. Oh wait...
mrhnm 7 months ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 7 months ago
Wonder how this would work in a bullpup rifle.
killerex010 7 months ago
oh god how i envy you americans!......
moeham2395 7 months ago 4
@moeham2395
please don't.. work to change your laws !!
GunWebsites 7 months ago 4
Sounds like heaven to me.
URBANAMERICANTAC 7 months ago
Why cant they make AK mags like this? I've seen them, but not for sale in the US.
xp41007 7 months ago
@xp41007
they were only ever prototypes
GunWebsites 7 months ago
@GunWebsites People look at SF's high prices, but they don't even think about their incredible warranty.
It can't be cheap for a company to ship out all of the flashlight/gun parts that they do on a daily basis. Most of the parts they ship out are "free of charge' to the end user. All of that has to be figured into their overall cost of doing business. Otherwise, they'd go broke...
Hiluxtaco 7 months ago
@Hiluxtaco
good point
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Lefty FTW!!
Hiluxtaco 7 months ago
if you have a fully auto sbr do you have to fill out two nfa papers
futuresolider96 7 months ago
@futuresolider96 no the full auto overrides all the other nfa restrictions
FiedtheNeedIT1 7 months ago 2
@futuresolider96
good question.. no
the full auto can have any length barrel it wants.. so once it's a registered full auto, any barrel is OK
GunWebsites 7 months ago 3
@GunWebsites to bad my state bans all nfa items
futuresolider96 7 months ago
@nebula25x
Hater= unsolicited vocal dislike for no apparent reason
You seriously think Surefire is charging way more for stuff, just because they can?
then you must also think there are people at Surefire riding limos around laughing at all their sucker customers
I don't think so
I think they are a 100% US company employing people who innovate, design and create cool products which are then made by US workers and sold to US customers (for the most part)
That seems like money well spent IMO
GunWebsites 7 months ago
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Hiluxtaco 7 months ago
How would it run with cheap steel and how much?
BIGGxDAWG210 7 months ago
@BIGGxDAWG210
runs great with steel, stay tuned
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Looks clean too.
LocutusIsBorg 7 months ago
Cool!
Mrcaffinebean 7 months ago
DAMMIT I WANT A FULL AUTO WITHOUT TAKING OUT A LOAN
BigSean1992 7 months ago 3
@BigSean1992
lets vote out the 1934 NFA and that would be a reality for all of us
GunWebsites 7 months ago 19
@GunWebsites oh believe me, i would. but i somehow doubt the criminals in washington will ever give that power back to we the people. not onlt would we have to get rid of the NFA all together, but nullify the Hughes amendment
BigSean1992 7 months ago
@GunWebsites let's do it. im with you.
yurik19881 3 months ago
@GunWebsites i thought the m16 a2 a3 a4 couldnt fire full auto?
GsxRaider 3 months ago
they would be great for full auto but not semi.
jtmoney606 7 months ago
@jtmoney606
WRONG.
They are PERFECT for semi and auto
Its 60 rounds
Breakneckhydra1 7 months ago
@nebula25x
surefire haters would complain if they gave away their products..
I wonder if you hate on all expensive; cars, watches, shoes, knives, etc as much as you love to hate SF ?
GunWebsites 7 months ago
It'd be pretty cool if the military considered these for testing.
TheAKOmnicide 7 months ago
aww man this looks so awesome damn CA only allows 10 round magazine only :,(
FLUFFYKUMAR 7 months ago
Bitchin'! 60 round magazine and full auto all in one!
Slick Willy would sh*t himself if he saw this.. lol
Hiluxtaco 7 months ago
@Hiluxtaco
Just got back from the range .. more shooting tests and took it apart.. stay tuned
GunWebsites 7 months ago
I wish they made one of those for the ruger mini-14.
CornMakesWhiskey 7 months ago
cool maybe they will make for different models
jmmurdy 7 months ago
I wish they would make a double stack for saiga-12
kttcox1 7 months ago
I swear every time I watch your videos I hate the fact that I live in Cali, but then I go outside and see all the hot chicks and remember why I like living here.
Imetalman2000 7 months ago
@Imetalman2000
Hopefully through the CRPA, we can get some of these senseless laws out and we can enjoy our State a little more :) If not, road trip to AZ/Nevada! I have two magazine kits just for that.
EverythingisFire 7 months ago
That's like in the movies where you never run out of ammo :)
ArtisanTony 7 months ago
dam is that a mk18 lower? Looks sweet.
driftinsti 7 months ago
@driftinsti nvm. lol Its an m16a2 lower.
driftinsti 7 months ago
Nice video...surefires have been decent mags so far as I can tell. Nice full auto sound too
awomansworld123 7 months ago
I'd like to see these with magpul quality construction for the price tag.
TheHossUSMC 7 months ago
Man I think this was my favorite today,nothing like fullauto fire from a 60rnd mag.
SPARTAN23123xS23x 7 months ago
keep pressing 7 for infininte shooting
saj12100 7 months ago
What in the world were those magpul mag-pulls? They looked like they were modded in length or something.
hitokiriszeto 7 months ago
@hitokiriszeto Surefire mags o.O
Tux3d0 7 months ago
@hitokiriszeto
that is the way hard core operators install them.. which is, of course, the way we roll
GunWebsites 7 months ago 10
@GunWebsites Another award winning response from you guys.
pballa1994 7 months ago
you know what i like about this channel? there's no cod fags :)
shirleythehunter 7 months ago 74
@shirleythehunter
ImNotGoingtobePC 7 months ago
@shirleythehunter whats cod? hmmm?
macoff12GT 7 months ago
@shirleythehunter *snort* I'll let you know, CoD is a incredibly realistic shooter! You can turn around and shoot a sniper without aiming! Who aims a sniper in real life? *snort*
CO2CoWgAs 7 months ago
@shirleythehunter yeah cuz this gun is terrible on call of duty, so its not worth being looked at
ju88ff 5 months ago
@ju88ff what do you think the Commando is dumbass
MrUtubegunner 4 months ago
60 round AR magazines...CA politicians would flip their lid!
EverythingisFire 7 months ago 53
@EverythingisFire
I'm in cali and if anyone else here is too, please call or email your reps. the devil Kevin De Leon is proposing two more bills that totally sensless. vote down sb124 and sb798.
Please vote or at least let your reps know how you feel cause crying about it or protesting ain't cutting it. we have to get political these days. thanks!
occlicker 7 months ago
How'd you get ahold of a FA SBR M4? Nice mags, changing the game for sure.
enscribe 7 months ago
Weren't the Russians the 1st to implement quad stack 60 round mags? I saw a few of their prototypes awhile back.
Phenixtri 7 months ago
That kinda looks more like a CQB M4A3
toboe399 7 months ago
@toboe399
Looks like a select fire lower with an LMT 10.5" Mk18 Mod 0 upper. aka CQBR Carbine.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ
Most MK18 CQBR DD or KAC rails
ryusekai 7 months ago
@ryusekai
That is an end-user preference. The standard MK18 Mod 0 upper from LMT comes from LMT minus the handguards.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ
They are issued out and MOD 0 and MOD 1 all come with some type of rail, either the KAC or DD.
ryusekai 7 months ago
@ryusekai
Yes an "issued" weapon will most likely have some form of rail on it whether DD or KAC or whatever the end-user chooses. When I say end-user I am not referring to an individual. Either way, LMT sells these to whomever minus the handguards. BCM sells these the exact same way.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ
I hear what you're saying but its not a "MK18" unless its fits the specs. The Specs are DD or LMT 10.3-10.5 Upper with KAC or DD rail. Everything else is just a clone.
ryusekai 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ
And a few VIS
ryusekai 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ I don't build AR's at the current time, so i would probably take your word on it, and I probably wasn't next to it like you might have been
toboe399 7 months ago
@toboe399
All I did was watch the vid, same as you.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ Then you have better Knowledge of the AR-15/m16/m4 weapons platform than I
toboe399 7 months ago
how does the mag work with double stack mag pouches? do they fit great or are they snug?
machinegun911 7 months ago
have you guys tried using the Surefire mag on 6.8 rifles?
juki009 7 months ago
Wow, what a simple idea, but I can't believe it hasn't been done before.. nice one surefire!
Smith28Adventure 7 months ago
Briliant! I Hope our troops carry them
mitsubishidiamante 7 months ago
Were you able to take it apart and see how it works? I'm guessing it has a expandable follower that collapses as it passes through the necked down section. ??
taofledermaus 7 months ago
@taofledermaus
Do a search for SCTexas on youtube. He did a teardown of one. It's a pretty neat setup.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago