Black Caviar wins the TJ Smith Stakes Group 1

[emmelby]

Such a great run from Hay List, the best I've ever seen from him, but she still just rolled righ past him. It doesn't look like the "internationals" are going to take he on at home, she may as well get on the plane and go to them. Timeform rates her, but nobody outside of Australasia seems to, bar them. Only one way to prove how good she is.

[bgardiner2000]

@emmelby I think ur right. Racing is a spectator sport. Now that it is so international I think the connections have an obligation to the ANZ racing industry to show-case her. Not to mention grab the cash on offer. Short of racing on dirt (surely they wouldn't subject her to that!) there is nothing over 5-6F that she wouldn't dominate. The internationals wouldn't bother taking her on here. Not when they see what she does to world-class horses like HL. Did you see his AA Stakes win? Brilliant!

[emmelby]

@bgardiner2000 If they run her on dirt in the US, I'll stop watching racing, I just can't make myself watch that stuff, not having spent as much time in the equine veterinary scene as I have, it's criminal, but I won't get started... I was impressed with HL in the AA, I said to my mate "If he runs anything like he did in the TJ, he should win by 5 lengths". He's a very good horse with the misfortune to be around when there's a freak.  BC has the talent to take out anything.

[emmelby]

@bgardiner2000 Don't start me on drugs propping the industry up, it makes me sick. They might as well start letting horses take steroids again. I find it very idfficult to get enthusiatic about anything coming out of America. An industry that allows horses drugged to mask pain and inflammation to run in races is full of shit as far as I'm concerned. It's on a par with 100m sprints for me. Not interested, and haven't been for years, shadier than a Mafia family reunion.

[emmelby]

@bgardiner2000 Tylenol?! Mmmkay. Bute removes COX from the system which is vital in horses for proper kidney function, blood cell production, and intestinal lining. Repeated use slows cartilage repair, can suppress bone marrow production, causes ulcers, damages kidneys, and screws the thyroid. Then there's dorsal colitis which can KILL horses. It shouldn't be used in stressed horses, nor on horses that are travelling long distances. So much for not getting me started... :-S

[bgardiner2000]

@emmelby haha sorry sweets. My bad.

[emmelby]

@bgardiner2000 Was joking mate, I actually enjoyed being pissed off about something other than "the wedding", lol.

[SvendBosanvovski]

@bgardiner2000 BG, I haven't seen your comments about Frankel's elevation to the stratosphere by Timeform. The have him 2.5 lens better than Black Caviar and about 4 lens better than So You Think.

[volshebnica82]

@SvendBosanvovski Where do you get the latest Timeform ratings from?

[bgardiner2000]

@SvendBosanvovski Timeform have given Frankel a provisional rating of 142...??? Or am I reading this incorrectly. That's 7lbs ahead of Black Caviar and 9 ahead of So You Think, Workfroce and Goldikova. So if they stuck Black Caviar in against Frankel over a mie and she beat him would she be rated ahead of Abernant? I sometimes wonder...

[SvendBosanvovski]

@bgardiner2000 Yes. Frankel is the highest rated throughbred on the planet, according to Timeform.

[myopic55]

We gathered around the TV at work to watch this and I have to admit I thought she was in trouble as they came into the straight. Wow was I wrong.

[SvendBosanvovski]

@myopic55 That is what great champions do. You unconsciously impose the expectation associated with ordinary horses, and a little voice says: "It can't win from there". But champions invariably prove you wrong. Look at the King's third Cox Plate, or Super Impose carrying the grandstand and running them down in '91 Epsom, or Bernborough's breathtaking Newmarket win. And those of us who behold these days have eyes to wonder, but lack tongues to praise!

[bgardiner2000]

I liked Glynn Schofield's comment... "I could hear her coming. Then she hit overdrive and I could see her going." She looks more and more like a sprinter-miler to me now. She has no peers over 5-6F but I doubt she would have any problems over 8F. Imagine what she could run a mile in?!?! I think that, next year, she might even get the 10F of a Cox Plate.

Get her overseas I say ;)

[Volcum2oakley]

I thought at the 200 haylist had got her but at the 150m she really knuckled down and goppled him and won by 3 lengths good win :)

[bgardiner2000]

@Volcum2oakley You have to feel a bit for Hay List. That is probably as good as he goes. And that would be good enough for anything else racing anywhere at the moment including the likes of Rocket Man, JJ the Jet Plane & Sacred Kingdom. He's streeted the rest of the field but still been made to look ordinary by BC. At any other time they'd be singing the praises of the best sprinter to come out of WA since Placid Ark. Instead he's an also ran. I do feel for the connections.