Homemade surface grinder set up for Lathe Machine

[Metalloys]

Thumbs up, wish if I had more than two ! Great work, innovative. Good old do-it-all school.

[albion2742]

I have lots of diamond dressers, how do you dress the grinding wheel

[automan1223]

That is cool ! Good work young man..... instead of watching crap on the T.V you built something REAL.... Might suggest sealed bearings and belt drive using a made to fit belt available at Grizzly tools....that does not have a seam. Every bump and seam in the chain and or plain old rubber belt will impart surface imperfections. Whip up a wet stone and lube pump and coolant tray and you can turn a finish like chrome.

[Shannariano]

If I can give you an advice: tighten that chain. will give better traction and less rattle ;)

good job and craftmanship btw;)

[dougspair]

..Yes, use your brain...!!

[05spirit]

Dont get rapped up with the negative people. They are the first to stop work and sit back when the CNC doesnt work. All you CNC guys: what you do is cool but remember, the parts for the First CNC were born on a lathe, mill, and grinder, operated by a real machinist BY HAND!

I have been in industrial maintenance for 28 years If I had to wait for the CNC machined repair part when I have a machine down, I would be out of work. We get together with our machinist and build it. America started Here !

[honeybunchickens]

@05spirit You remind me of this really great and intelligent guy i used to know who would speak like you. I would look up to him and he was a great inspire'r and roll model.

[05spirit]

@honeybunchickens I read your reply back to these guys and had to say something. I wake up in the night and write down ideas on paper, pizza boxes etc. I teach my crew to make it. modify it, fix anything. Sitting back waiting for a part is not acceptable. There is a sense of satisfaction and pride in your work that just cannot be explained. I too had a few I looked up to. Their words and influence are passed on daily. I respect you and what you do, dont stop. I have a small shop also.

[ScotsFurian]

@05spirit America started in Scotland and Ireland !

[14goldmedals]

@ScotsFurian please post a reference where you learned that amazing fact. If it really was true that USA started with Scots and Micks then there must have been zero booze in Americe then! The first time those 2 groups got drunk they'd have fought and broke up the place until the only thing left to dd was the Natives tossing them out lol.

[MrDeepwoodtickles]

Ignore the haters,good job.Its always easy for an asshole to say you should of done ......x.. When they are stumping up the cash, cool,till then , F**k em. As to cnc, some people miss the point of what being a machinist is about.Before cnc, manual had ways and means of acomplishing most things, cnc just makes a more streamlined process.to some of us its a hobby,and we value doing it manualy.

[honeybunchickens]

@MrDeepwoodtickles  Very true, Well spoken

[odmcarp]

good thinking. very creative. good to see people keeping busy and productive.

[precisionmechworks]

how can you make micrometer size on a lathe?

and what about if your lathe bed have some taper error?

nice work thou!

[davlok1]

my old Boss used to say "Anyone one can make good parts on good machines, but a machinest can make good parts on anything". There is always going to be room for manual and cnc machines. I have manual mill,lathe, and suface grinder . I would love to go into cnc but really dont need to make 50 of the same parts. Most of the things I make for people are 1 or 2 of somthing. I would go to belt drive up your wheel speed and use sealed shaft bearings.The first CNC machine was made on a manual machine!

[Garretthierisser]

i need one too, but no time...

[Samqdf]

well I don't care what the others have said, I think you make something decent. However as mentioned before don't let that dust touch your bed, it stuffs it up.

[alderaforall]

how come the wheel wasn't dressed first?

[enzt2002]

CHINGON / XLNT BRO

[rorybz]

A multiple V-belt drive with a sliding or spring-loaded motor base for tensioning and a 1:2 ratio would be preferable for that application. There would be less vibration and noise, and the reduction in vibration would lead to improved quality of the finished workpiece because the application of torque would be more consistent. A roller chain provides positive drive, but it isn't the same as direct-drive because of the vibration and noise issue, as well as torque lag from the chain slack.

[Moronicsmurf]

@JC4crs retard... cant see any of your "machineshop" in your vids.. bragging and not showing just makes you a liar...

[bmays002]

know an old guy that makes little engines with manual machining equipment, amazing work and skill

now give some idiot kid a CNC and he can do the same work in less time, i guess it is a better way, but it is not skill

[stillbashingmetal]

I enjoy seeing other peoples ingenuity used to resolve problems when they don't have the use of a fully equiped machine shop. This set up seems to work OK. Do you dress the periphery of the grinding wheel with a diamond before tou start grinding? Thanks for posting...it's an interesting solution.

[scotjim55]

Well thats seems to work OK. Thats the main thing isn't it ?.

I also don't like a chain drive, won't slip if things go bad !.

Small poly-v is great for small drives.

Best regards.

[mohamed4480847]

plz ... more idea

that is good i m from Egypt and i m agricultural mechainc

[apatientspider]

@honeybunchickens - Don't let the negative comments get you - "engineers" are often anal retentive and in need of a box of Exlax. :-) Forty years ago an old patternmaker told me it isn't how good you are with the finest tools and materials available that counts - it's what you can do with the ones you have. On the other hand, grinding dust isn't good for the accuracy of your lathe if you do much of it, and for safety you should put a cover back on that wheel guard. Cheers.

[dh5830]

That is not a surface grinder!!!!!!! That is tool post grinder and a pretty shoddy effort at making one. Abrasive wheels are not things you should be mucking about with for one. The welding looks poor. You have a lathe their so why not use it to machine a shaft that didn't look like it came of a 1940's tractor???

When that all comes to grief and you are picking bits of it out your face maybe you will think twice when you do things like that.

[JC4crs]

@dh5830 That's what I tried to tell him. I also said "where is the coolant?" as he was grinding DRY. Bad for the Lathe, bad for the lungs, bad for the work.

Also using Chains for a drive for what should be a high speed grinding wheel is a BAD and dangerous choice. The dude got all sentimental on me as you can read on his replies.

[dh5830]

@JC4crs Yeah he should be using coolant, but when he doesn't know what the tool is called how can you expect him to use it properly. I ran out of characters before I could mention the chain drive set up. As you say a very bad choice. I have seen it done but on a tool post grinder with a much larger and therefore slower wheel on it. Virtually all grinders (tool post or otherwise) use a direct drive to ensure a smooth balanced operation at the required speed.

haha I see he did, oh well. lol

[mendozer73]

done that old son have you cut a thread on a manul mill external .have a think let me know .it can be done

[1gsxr1000k]

This is good.. I see the force is strong in this one :)

[ardvarkkkkk1]

All this crap about who is the better machinist and no one points out that this is NOT a surface grinder. It is a tool post grinder. Makes it look like no one has their shit together.

[kenny474]

You have done pretty good here. I don't like the chain drive, and would rather see a belt, but it's evidently doing what it needs to do, so it's OK with me.

Don't be bothered by the idiot calling you a hillbilly, he just wishes he could program his CNC machines to get him laid, as he's evidently very frustrated with himself for some reason, and that's likely it.

Keep doing what you do, it's the only way to learn and get better! And that's what we all do this for, right?

[JC4crs]

Hillbilly to the BONE!!

you have a Lathe, Yet had to assemble the grinder shaft from welded bolts, Cheap bearings, untrue shaft, unbalanced and stuff??

and where is the coolant dude.???

fucking up the Lathe!!!

whoever says "well done" is another dumb HILLBILLY of equal caliber.

[honeybunchickens]

@JC4crs I actually indicated the shaft and its at .0004 witch is really good. really true so you don't know what your talking about man you sound like your mad at yourself because your so busy hating and competing with people on youtube that has something you don't have, SKILLS

get a life

[JC4crs]

@honeybunchickens DUDE, I don't have SKILLS??? I am an Engineer. and I have a Machine SHOP which is ONLY my hobby not my JOB. I CONVERTED some of my machines to CNC I also bought used CNC machines in good physical Shape and UPDATED all the CNC Electronics to Current Technology Therefore they ARE BETTER than When NEW. I came to your page bc I was looking for Vids for MYFORD MG12 which is MY latest acquisition. I will convert to CNC as Well.

NO SKILLS?? HA! Million times above HILLBILLY

[honeybunchickens]

@JC4crs everybody is doing CNC. Well thats good that you have CNC id like to have one to make my life easier or if your doing production. I have a lot of friends you have CNC shops but even with 38 and 40 etc years of experience to this day they can't stick a solid piece of metal and just looking at a piece like as if you are going to draw it on paper but instead by hand you duplicate it in a manual lathe and mill all by hand. Especially a 3 axis part. Thats SKILLS!!!

[honeybunchickens]

@JC4crs For instants i don't like bragging. But look at all my Vids and see all the stuff i build before you start doubting me. I know what Im fully capable of. Doing this petty stuff in my garage but entertained and keeps me busy and sanity wise, Don't get me wrong i love doing it. But really can't sleep every night because i have these craziest ideas rolling through my head that seem so complicated to figure out that i would have to get out of bed and draw it out on paper to fully figure out

[honeybunchickens]

@JC4crs Do you know how that feels. When working on one thing I think of another thing entirely different in my head thinking and wishing I could do both or three at the same time. But then you get all bummed out because you don't have $50,000 or $60,000 to even get started or even have the space. All i could do is draw these things out and have people daubt them saying that it won't work, how would you feel if multiple people say that to you, when you perfectly know it will work

[MoejoTheGreat]

@honeybunchickens If it works, it works, fuck the haters, they don't know what true innovation is.

[MrBurnTec]

@JC4crs using a cnc proves you have no skill

[alderaforall]

@MrBurnTec not true, just means you have different skills.

[MrBurnTec]

@alderaforall what typing into a computer is different to actually making it 

[alderaforall]

@MrBurnTec you obviously have this elitist attitude and have probably never used a CNC machine either. Both manual and CNC work take skills, knowledge of proper speeds/feeds, knowledge of material behavior after being cut on, so on and so forth. Don't turn your nose up at something just because you either don't understand it or can't do it.

[MrBurnTec]

@alderaforall im 17 i used one at school and it was shit i preferd to use it by hand not some computer doing it for me

[MrBurnTec]

@MrBurnTec it was just typing in a computer :L

[alderaforall]

@MrBurnTec CNC is so much more than just typing into a computer. Besides that, CNC enables you to make extremely complex parts accurately which would be impossible on manual machines. As young as you are, only shows how little you know about the machining world. Learning to program these machines, setting them up, and operating them is a skill that pays very well if you work for the right companies. Manual guys will just be there to remove clamp pads after the part has had CNC ops.

[MrBurnTec]

@alderaforall what do you do with cnc then ?

[alderaforall]

@MrBurnTec program,setup, operate,4 okuma lathes and 2 okuma mills. Program the lathes with a conversational IGF programming software at the machine and program the mills with mastercam software. We make anything from pipe fittings for tanks, parts for the mining industry, parts for the aerospace industry, and whatever else we can win the bid on. The parts range from pretty basic to parts that have features that need to be timed correctly. Tolerances range from +/-.100" to +/-.0002"

[MrBurnTec]

@alderaforall dont you just get some guy to install it for you ?

[alderaforall]

@MrBurnTec install what?

[MrBurnTec]

@honeybunchickens dont pay attetion to that other dude if you can do it why not i do stuff all time like that making things for my tools

[adisharr]

@JC4crs How about you take some TIME away from sounding like a TOOL and upload some videos YOURSELF. Maybe THEN we can all learn from your SKILLS.

[kenny474]

@JC4crs CNC is what those without true SKILLS need to properly machine things. My father has 30+ years of manual machining experience and will cut circles around any, and I repeat ANY, CNC programmer IF you were to take his computer away and make him operate on his skills alone.

Many, many machinists who know of my father have told me he is the BEST machinist they have ever seen, "simply amazing", and that's from them, not me.

Oh yeah, he knows G-code and can program a CNC as well.

[kenny474]

@JC4crs If this is your hobby and you are not doing production runs, and yet you have these incredible "skills", why do you need CNC? I would think if you were so incredible, you should be able to do anything on manual machines and wouldn't need a program to figure it all out for you.

And let me guess, you don't use G-code either, you have a CAD program that does all the thinking for you.

Stop hating on someone doing the best they can with what they have and get your own life.

[kenny474]

@JC4crs Yes, your skills are so incredible, you have yet to make a single video showcasing what you can do, yet you are trashing on someone who has done the best he could with what he has? Really a great person, you are.

And COOLANT? On a toolpost grinder? Are you alright??? And how has he hurt the lathe?

I have yet to see anyone "balance" a grinding wheel (except with the One-Way system) . True them, yes. Even on the surface grinder, I have yet to see one be "balanced".

You sure know it all!

[doubleboost]

Great idea

The dust is a killer of lathes

More speed and power like you say

[honeybunchickens]

@doubleboost I definitely need to do something with the dust. it gets everywhere

[jacebigelow]

Nice, thumbs up !

[mazdalorean]

I recently purchased a 12 x 37 lathe from harbor freight . I wouldn't consider myself a master machinest, but I've seen enough done to know what tooling I need for the different kinds of work that you can do on a lathe. I just never saw that before.

[honeybunchickens]

@mazdalorean For some reason i did not get this comment to me. But that is really awesome that you got urself a lathe machine, I am super happy for u, You are going to be addicted to it soon enough, Trust me if you don't right now, when the time comes when u actually need to make something that requires a lathe and you actually build that thing u needed to make u will love it even more, because the experience will improve the next project rapidly in the near future

[honeybunchickens]

@mazdalorean I thought i wasn't going to use mine that often and i found myself using it everyday now. u will start to understand all the bits and types of bits and shapes and what there designed for and different tools u can attach on there to do different jobs. Theres never ending listing of things u can get for a lathe when u read about machining, Look at a catalog of machining tools for lathes e.t.c. And u will be amazed to see what lathes has in store for it. U can make a parabolic shape

[mazdalorean]

interesting.

[honeybunchickens]

@mazdalorean yes but this motor sucks for digging power. I need at least 2hp. Im changing the motor to a hand operated cut off motor, at least they will give me more digging power. A ridged cut off has at least 2hp witch will by better then what i have. Thanks for commenting by the way

[lomasck]

Well done buddy.All things I have made of late.A Multiplex FunJet Ultra with a 200kph + set up in it I crashed on its first flight.BADLY.Depressing.I dont know about over there but in Australia imperial bearings are fare more expensive than metric ones.

[robinhooodvsyou]

I bet those bearings wont last very long without proper sealing, otherwise very nice work.