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  • What a fantastic sound, thankyou Sir!

  • I don't like how slow this is, but it's still beautiful

  • Mr. Nobody

  • To me it just sounds perfect. You just need to get into the right mood.

  • so slow to my taste... maybe in another mood I can contemplate

  • A real tear jerker!

  • I think this version was better if I hadn't thought of the other two Gymnopedies. They aren't as, sad (couldn't think of the word). Individually though, this is great.

  • let the 'pro' musicians have their snootery, i like this and I don't care if you look down your Gnossienne. My ears love it, maybe i'll give 'pro' music a miss

  • <3 all of your vidz

  • @ThePancakeRepairman I love yours man! ;) Excellent work!

  • Great. Reinbert avoids all mediocrity in each and any of these notes. He makes you forget the "musique d'ameublement" !

  • This is dreadful - he plays a tied note in the opening phrase. All those pauses before downbeats makes his playing sound soooo not professional. Why promote mediocrity? The tempo does not work. Only the orchestral version can work at such a morbid tempo. Just my opinion. Now moving along...

  • @maestrojimbo You have all the other versions to feel happy about. This one is for the non professionals I guess. Moving along...

  • @untitledesigner I luv this version, is so slowly so more melancholic

  • @Jazzcoholic same here. the other versions just seem wrong to me after this.

  • @maestrojimbo i think maybe thats what he was going for, who says you u have to play by the book :) its the way art life and music is.

  • @maestrojimbo Lente et Grave = Slowly and Serious.

  • @maestrojimbo

    Professional or not, he sure came alot further than you will.

  • @Symbton To Metal in your Swedish Ass - you have no idea what I've done or plan to do,you fool. Your taste is in your mouth. Go listen to the many and better versions of this before you insult someone you don't even know. This is a dance - there's no pulse or any sense of line in this performance, not that you'd know from your ignorant mind.

  • @maestrojimbo

    My bad, I thought you were attacking Satie himself

  • @maestrojimbo You're completely missing what de Leeuw is doing in the way he plays Satie. His interpretations are unique; to my ears he seems to play them like the "wallpaper music" they were intended to be. You can listen or walk away and come back - you can get lost in it. It's a very modernistic take, kind of like what Brian Eno would do. It's sound construction, not "piano playing".

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  • @maestrojimbo How can you ASSUME you know what Satie intended? The only instruction he leaves is "Lent et Grave" - no metronome marking. You're problem is you can't admit you just don't get what de Leeuw is doing. I can't have my Satie any other way, and when I finally heard his recordings, I felt I suddenly understood the whole Satie "thing". de Leeuw's playing isn't the ONLY way - it's just the way I like.

  • @gymnopedies13 I don't ASSUME I know what Satie intended. I've listened to recordings of Satie's contemporaries who recorded his music to get an idea about how he liked it to be performed. I ASSUME they have a better idea as to how he wanted it to sound because they were his close friends. Debussy's orchestration can be very slow, but not to the point of absurdity. The version you so love is perverse and abstract to my trained ear.

  • @gymnopedies13 (continued) Of course, there is no ONE WAY to do or play anything. As a student at Juilliard I remember there was the famous anecdotal story about Wanda Landowska telling Rosalyn Tureck "You play Bach YOUR way and I'll play Bach HIS way". As in politics, de Leeuw's playing of this one Gymnopedie is like the Republicans who distort the truth by engaging in historical revision. I prefer the French tradition - it's more truthful.

  • @maestrojimbo I have conservatory-trained ears too, and this interpretation doesn't bother me at all. It's my favorite, actually. So you can't pin your dislike of it to being an educated musician, as if that somehow validates your dislike of it. It doesn't.

  • @gymnopedies13 I could care less. Bug off. This is going nowhere.

  • @maestrojimbo You started it, you self-righteous twit. Can't take what you dish out. Some people will like this and others don't. So fuck you.

  • @maestrojimbo wasn't Satie himself criticized and called the "clumsy technician" because he wasn't playing as fast his contemporaries?

  • Luv it.

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