The fact of the matter is( and i have researched this pretty good) That the Bush Admin. had a boat load of laywers pouring over this and they got it down to just over the line of legal, now it is soooo close to that line that words can make it sound illegal but if this does ever go to court no judge will ever be able to convict ne1 of wrong doing in this. The lawyers have it covered. not saying iagree with this but its true
@arkangel8419 problem is there wont be a juducial judge it will be a military tribunal. They would never try to use something like this on a domestic citizen unless it was over the top spy shit. "If the y were to tell anyone they used it at all".. Do you really think they actually obtain a court order for everyone they listen in on? All communications filter through one company who is wholly owned by the Israelies, thats how they get it.
@sniffy45 this isnt military, the judges they go in front of for the go ahead are civilian judges(at all hours of ther night&day for aproval), & while I am not nievee enough to believe that no illegal wiretaps are not going on the fact is, the facts show that nothing illegal has been done & the judges that are considering taking this to court are all civilian the military has no authority to take this case to a tribunal(that would be more illegal then the shady deals the NSA is doing no)
@arkangel8419 - this isnt military? ok, well not armed forces but it is at the federal level is what I meant. Its still agaist our constitutional right and breach of the forth. The entire fassad is bullshit, all in the name or terror. Smoke and mirrors.
Do you even understand what our branches of government are? or how many we have? A federal grand jury has absolutly nothing to do with the military.I said in my first statement that I HAVE RESEARCHED THIS TOPIC TO THE EXTREME! while i dont nesesaraly agree with all of it. what i have found was that the highest lvls of our gov. have gotten the green light from their own lawyers along with federal judges who have to sign off on everything. the point is that all of this falls within the law
@sniffy45 at least all of what we see, now does this lead to an easy invasion of privacy with little oversight? YES. but that is not sumthing we can prove & the law will not indite on suspision! the facts show that while laws may be bent in this process the NSA/Homeland/CIA/FBI/ect/ect, get everything that can be thrown back at them in a court of law signed off first by thier own lawyers & then a federal judge(which has nothing to do with the military branch)
@arkangel8419 I think you are making my point which is at a local level this cant and likely wont be used against a person for a common crime like drug dealing, murder, domestic violence and so on however if you were to divulge info in an email or phone call that had national reprercussions one could expect this type of thing as well as be shipped somewhere to be interrogated and convicted in a military tribunal not a civil court. Im pretty sure we have many examples already.
@sniffy45 wait lol your point is that you change what your point is everytime i prove your first point wrong lol quit trolling ...especially about things that u obviously know nothing about, like our branches of government, the NSA(or any intell agency) or laws & constitutions of this country! no to really finalize my LAST PIOINT YOU ATE BLOCKED & I AM DONE WITH U!
Hey, as a member of the armed forces, the good general swore to uphold the constitution of the United States of America, he didn't swear he would actually read it. LOL
did Boston Dynamics defence advanced research make these space craft i film have a look on my your tube please and if you know anyone in the NSA please ask what these are i film with my scope i made
I think the NSA should be destroyed they are EVIL and KILLERS don't forget what dirty and murderous things they do which is against anything that is decent they are not human there murders plain and simple do not TRUST THEM!
wow your a dumbass you have any idea what the NSA days every day to protect your sorry ass? you wouldn't. NSA has some of the Smartest ppl in the U.S an even the world working for them. god know's how many things they have done stop stop things from happening.
123, shut the fuck up. Stupid Brits. Stop acting like Mr Know It All on American history and go send your dentists how to properly fix teeth. Only thing worse than British food is British dentistry
its called free speech and having just returned from new york I think you should clean up your own act first.A more moronic fat ugly bunch of fucking gypos I have yet to meet.
A pity you don't appreciate the concept of FEDERAL LAW. It's different than the legal standards you people in the state are so used to generalizing. Your government has the right to take reasonable actions, and taking a statement's inverse and implying it's correct as well is a sign of VERY flawed logic. I wish you Americans would do a little better research on your own laws before acting like you know more than professionals.
Flawed Logic: He stated "Unlawful" to which the man took exception. He then states it again implying "unreasonable" to be the same as "unlawful." That is flawed logic, further emphasized by distracting the viewer by implying "unreasonable" was the original statement.
As for the LAW side, look up "legal precedent" on the matter. Understandably a lot has happened since you signed the bloody amendments in 1791.
Well, maybe you don't understand "probable cause supported by oath or affirmation"...
If you are so hot shit on the fourth amendment maybe you will understand why the second comes before the first, but somehow I think your politics blind your reason.
Did you just go from video to video posting this stupid, lame quote? Franklin smoked and held slaves. Any reason to believe EVERYTHING the man said is valid today?
This video was posted May 6th and has been viewed only 457 times. We need to be proactive about making people aware of the threats to our liberty that are happening these days at the highest levels of government.
Keith Olberman put it very well - "guess they have a different constitution over at the NSA." Could have included 1600 Pensylvania Ave. in that statement...
This has been flagged as spam show
GARY PEPPER IS A TRAITOR/CIA/DIA AGENT/RESIDES OSO, BELGIUM/NATO
FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND WORLD HUMAN RIGHTS
1tuxedoedlobster 1 year ago
And to the NSA rep reading this post, your mother is a one legged tranny
sniffy45 1 year ago
The fact of the matter is( and i have researched this pretty good) That the Bush Admin. had a boat load of laywers pouring over this and they got it down to just over the line of legal, now it is soooo close to that line that words can make it sound illegal but if this does ever go to court no judge will ever be able to convict ne1 of wrong doing in this. The lawyers have it covered. not saying iagree with this but its true
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@arkangel8419 problem is there wont be a juducial judge it will be a military tribunal. They would never try to use something like this on a domestic citizen unless it was over the top spy shit. "If the y were to tell anyone they used it at all".. Do you really think they actually obtain a court order for everyone they listen in on? All communications filter through one company who is wholly owned by the Israelies, thats how they get it.
sniffy45 1 year ago
@sniffy45 this isnt military, the judges they go in front of for the go ahead are civilian judges(at all hours of ther night&day for aproval), & while I am not nievee enough to believe that no illegal wiretaps are not going on the fact is, the facts show that nothing illegal has been done & the judges that are considering taking this to court are all civilian the military has no authority to take this case to a tribunal(that would be more illegal then the shady deals the NSA is doing no)
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@arkangel8419 - this isnt military? ok, well not armed forces but it is at the federal level is what I meant. Its still agaist our constitutional right and breach of the forth. The entire fassad is bullshit, all in the name or terror. Smoke and mirrors.
sniffy45 1 year ago
Do you even understand what our branches of government are? or how many we have? A federal grand jury has absolutly nothing to do with the military.I said in my first statement that I HAVE RESEARCHED THIS TOPIC TO THE EXTREME! while i dont nesesaraly agree with all of it. what i have found was that the highest lvls of our gov. have gotten the green light from their own lawyers along with federal judges who have to sign off on everything. the point is that all of this falls within the law
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@sniffy45 at least all of what we see, now does this lead to an easy invasion of privacy with little oversight? YES. but that is not sumthing we can prove & the law will not indite on suspision! the facts show that while laws may be bent in this process the NSA/Homeland/CIA/FBI/ect/ect, get everything that can be thrown back at them in a court of law signed off first by thier own lawyers & then a federal judge(which has nothing to do with the military branch)
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@arkangel8419 I think you are making my point which is at a local level this cant and likely wont be used against a person for a common crime like drug dealing, murder, domestic violence and so on however if you were to divulge info in an email or phone call that had national reprercussions one could expect this type of thing as well as be shipped somewhere to be interrogated and convicted in a military tribunal not a civil court. Im pretty sure we have many examples already.
sniffy45 1 year ago
@sniffy45 YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE, your changing your point every time i prove your first point wrong! i am done with you...........
arkangel8419 1 year ago
@arkangel8419 exactly my point ;-)
sniffy45 1 year ago
@sniffy45 wait lol your point is that you change what your point is everytime i prove your first point wrong lol quit trolling ...especially about things that u obviously know nothing about, like our branches of government, the NSA(or any intell agency) or laws & constitutions of this country! no to really finalize my LAST PIOINT YOU ATE BLOCKED & I AM DONE WITH U!
arkangel8419 1 year ago
Hey, as a member of the armed forces, the good general swore to uphold the constitution of the United States of America, he didn't swear he would actually read it. LOL
BirdlandBeat 3 years ago
did Boston Dynamics defence advanced research make these space craft i film have a look on my your tube please and if you know anyone in the NSA please ask what these are i film with my scope i made
JohnLenardWalson 3 years ago
can I interest you in an aluminum foil Pyramid hat? it's great protection against mind control satellite imagery.
MagellansUnderwear 2 years ago
I think the NSA should be destroyed they are EVIL and KILLERS don't forget what dirty and murderous things they do which is against anything that is decent they are not human there murders plain and simple do not TRUST THEM!
IntermittentSprocket 4 years ago
wow your a dumbass you have any idea what the NSA days every day to protect your sorry ass? you wouldn't. NSA has some of the Smartest ppl in the U.S an even the world working for them. god know's how many things they have done stop stop things from happening.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
123, shut the fuck up. Stupid Brits. Stop acting like Mr Know It All on American history and go send your dentists how to properly fix teeth. Only thing worse than British food is British dentistry
patjc15 4 years ago
its called free speech and having just returned from new york I think you should clean up your own act first.A more moronic fat ugly bunch of fucking gypos I have yet to meet.
CHANNELOMD 3 years ago
speak english or die
whereismyplekky 3 years ago
A pity you don't appreciate the concept of FEDERAL LAW. It's different than the legal standards you people in the state are so used to generalizing. Your government has the right to take reasonable actions, and taking a statement's inverse and implying it's correct as well is a sign of VERY flawed logic. I wish you Americans would do a little better research on your own laws before acting like you know more than professionals.
123go567 4 years ago
Flawed Logic: He stated "Unlawful" to which the man took exception. He then states it again implying "unreasonable" to be the same as "unlawful." That is flawed logic, further emphasized by distracting the viewer by implying "unreasonable" was the original statement.
As for the LAW side, look up "legal precedent" on the matter. Understandably a lot has happened since you signed the bloody amendments in 1791.
123go567 4 years ago
"well maybe they have a different constitution over there at the NSA"
Answer: They do.
The NSA does not have to abide by any law, unless the law states, in writing, that the NSA has to abide by that law.
So, pretty much, they can do whatever the fuck they want. ;)
bigpyoopypants 4 years ago
Well, maybe you don't understand "probable cause supported by oath or affirmation"...
If you are so hot shit on the fourth amendment maybe you will understand why the second comes before the first, but somehow I think your politics blind your reason.
Yawn....
micers 4 years ago
does the order of the ammendments indicate the priorites?
CHANNELOMD 3 years ago
from giveu2tictacs "guy is an idiot" - I agree totally.
constantskeptic 5 years ago
semantics.
dcesarini 5 years ago
"Those willing to sacrifice freedom for safety deserve and shall receive neither." - Benjamin Franklin
dsa8 5 years ago
Did you just go from video to video posting this stupid, lame quote? Franklin smoked and held slaves. Any reason to believe EVERYTHING the man said is valid today?
edvadosvba 4 years ago
i can't belive you just said that can you please say it again
but this comment you made seems to hate the idea of freedom where do you live iran?
dsa8 4 years ago
LOL- when reagan said history might record in astonishment them that had the most did the least to prevent -
He was wrong (speaking from what I see today in this hour) not only did they do the least to prevent it
They actually sold it willingly for a lie.
So that's why the comments I quote are not political
They are never changing truths about the freedom in the heart and soul of a Man
In other words --The American Dream-
dsa8 4 years ago
I agree rizzodaily!
resurgent1 5 years ago
This video was posted May 6th and has been viewed only 457 times. We need to be proactive about making people aware of the threats to our liberty that are happening these days at the highest levels of government.
rizzodaily 5 years ago
Why are these guys not in prison yet?
toykilla 5 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_j1i-i_ZKs&mode=related&search=
luarfr 5 years ago
Keith Olberman put it very well - "guess they have a different constitution over at the NSA." Could have included 1600 Pensylvania Ave. in that statement...
bluzlady 5 years ago
I love it
gnarkilleptic 5 years ago
Guy is an idiot
giveu2tictacs 5 years ago
and what do you do for a living?-google videos?
1DevilDog 5 years ago