@RealRapAndHiphp, Keep your pagan god and your brutal, barbaric, ignorant cult of Islam it has nothing to do with us nor did we do anything to promote or accept your beggar cult of Islam. What we did we did before Arab animal came to our land, during Turks and Mongol invasion that you brought and after to this day and we give nothing to your pagan Islamic crap.
@RealRapAndHiphp, Sorry you dont like the truth, this is nothing new with Muslims that deny fact and reality and always manipulate the truth to suite there own agenda.
@ReedamBeIslam truth? what does this have to do with the truth? i said i am proud of my muslim brothers al khwarizimi was a muslim i dont deny facts or reality but what facts are you talking about? the only fact here is that al khwarizmi was a muslim and i am proud of him and every muslim should be proud of this great man
and unlike i am not attacking any one or showing aggression in my comments manipulate the truth to suite there own agenda? what are you trying to say?
@RealRapAndHiphp, No Muslim born into it or convert wants the truth other wise Islam would not do it for them. Khwarizmi is the mans name, Arabs say Al Khwarizmi, second he was not a Muslim and as majority of Iranians of the time knew what a joke Islam & Arabs are. Iranian greats like Khyyam, Ferdowsi, Molavi and others despised Arabs and Islam but had to be careful so they are murdered by Muslims which is what you have accepted.
@NobleSavage1919 Balkh is a Persian (Tajik) city and a part of greater Iran , Avicenna was an ethnic Persian . Modern day Afghanistan was established by the Pashtun Hottaki and Durrani dynasties many years after the death of Avicenna .
Im an arab and fully acknowledge those scientists were persian, most scientists at the time were persian, but there were still arab ones, like al kindi, ibn al haytham, Ibn Khaldun, etc. but i thought that jabir bin huyyan was an arab at least thats what a book i brought when i was in middle school told me. pls correct me if im wrong.
@1rebmunz, Nearly all were Persian, Arabs try to take credit for ones born in Baghdad which was built after the Arabs slaughtered and destroyed Ctesiphon, it was built and ruled by Iranians and the Grand Vazir was Persian in Baghdad. Kindi was born & raised in Baghdad, Haytham also born in Baghdad but a Persian, Buyid Persian. Khaldun born in Tunis, Cairo which was not Arab but another nation forced into accepting being Arab. Jabir was born in Samarra another city in Iraq a Persian
Persians religion used be Orthodox christian, not Muslim religion, which is very close to Armenians religion, Greek religion, Georgians religion, some Russian Jewish, Bulgar, Serbians, and etc. At present time Iranians in Iran almost 80-90% has a Shia religion. Persians in Central Asia has a Sunna religion or Orthodox Christian or Atheist. Only Pamir Tajiks in Southern Tajikistan believe to Ismailizm, because Pamirians mixed with Albanians, their not clear Persians.
@khorasanculture Languages develop, swedish for example is full of persian words. Still, you speak persian, nothing else. Afghan piece of joke (afghan hahahaha) , stop writing to me and get a life, and i do have an education, a math education, which you probably was to stupid to get. I would keep talking to you if you weren't afghan, im not gonna spend more time on you my chinese looking friend. Everyone refers them as persians, live with it.
@Kavehisftw I am from Samarkand and i met many Iranians, i was trying to speak with them in an Persian language, they ignored, they're saying that they're not persians anymore, they're azaris even they understand u. They're saying that their mother tongue language is Uzbek with the Turkish akcent. I met them also in another cities in Uzbekistan, they dont understand you when you are saying something in persian language. That means in Central Asia the Iranians very easily accepted Turkish lang?
@expressioncrew1 Are you high? 23% of the iranian population are Azeris. Ali Daei, Hossein Rezazadeh, Karim Bagheri, are great iranian azeris that have lived in Iran. But 51% of the population is Persians. What does big noses have to do with anything, all artworks from the scientist age portays them as dark haired.
@Kavehisftw Why most Persian Science was born in Khorasan land and they were studied and practiced in Khorasan such as Balkh (Afghanistan), Samarqand, Bukhara, Kharezm, ( Uzbekistan). Because those 4 cities was belong to Tajiks ( Dari speaking )and most Tajiks used to live there, of course ancient time was called PERSIANS. ONLY KHORESMIANS TURKIFIED FULLY. SAMARKAND AND BUKHARA, BALKH still persians which is Tajiks at present time.
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that Kharezmian's fully Turkified, they hate Persians, I know a lot of Kharezmians, they proud to be an uzbek and loved them.
@camomilleable11 Lol, no I haven't. khorasanculture talks shit about turks and refers to himself as a tajik. But nowadays perhaps, but these scientists were mostly persian, not turks or uzbeks nor tajiks.
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that time only used to live Persians and was only one nation the Persians ( not iranians, tajiks, uzbeks, or any other ones) ONLY PERSIANS. Everybody used to have only one language, one alphabet. Persians originated from Central Asia, not from Iran. Central Asia oldest land than Iran. in Iran used be only two cities Elam which is Jew land and Farsi. Persians migrated to Elam and Farsi, get mixed with them that's how they become an Iranians.
@Kavehisftw Persians religion used be Orthodox christian, not Muslim religion, which is very close to Armenians religion, Greek religion, Georgians religion, some Russian Jewish, Bulgar, Serbians, and etc. At present time Iranians in Iran almost 80-90% has a Shia religion. Persians in Central Asia has a Sunna religion or Orthodox Christian or Atheist. Only Pamir Tajiks in Southern Tajikistan believe to Ismailizm, because Pamirians mixed with Albanians, their not clear Persians.
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that even Bulgars originated from Central Asia in Balkh - Bulkh (Afghanistan), they used to be the Tajiks too. They moved to the Europe and get mixed with Europeans, after they created a country which is called BULGARIA.
@Kavehisftw Do you know who's the Yaghnobis? They're ancient Soghdians, they still live in Northern Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Do you have the Yaghnobis in Iran? Of course not. The Yaghnobis still speaking in old Soghdians language, and their writings an old Soghdian.
@khorasanculture I dont give alot for lawyers, math is the only right education, and most respectable.
If they were eastern iranic people, prove it, give me a text that confirms it. Every text says theyre persian. I'm sorry mate, you can claim them being of your race if you want, but fact is, you cant really know - all you can do is go after what fact says. You shouldnt talk about stealing languages, you have ours lol. The iranian diaspora is more successful than all others, so shut the f up.
@Kavehisftw Could you tell me why most Iranians has a dark skin and big noses like a Jews. Could you tell me why Tajiks still speaking their own language, but Iranians in Central Asia turkified, even Iranians still living with Tajiks, but fully they're turkified. Iranians dont speak a persian language anymore in most part of Central Asia such as in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. But Tajiks still speaking their own language in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.
@khorasanculture I am an engineer your stupid fuck. All european books i have read refer khwarizmi, ferdowsi and khayyam as PERSIANS. I just go after good sources, not some afghan motherfucker trying to take cred for what great persians achieved. I seriously laughed when u said ur afghan. Iran has great science and produces more science reports than anyone else.
I'm persian, not arab, i think you know that and i also think that you fail in making me angry with that lol.
@khorasanculture Tajik people live in the tajik state, not only, i know that, they exist in afghanistan, iran, pakistan and even turkey. You said tajikistan did not consist of tajiks dickhead.
So you are afghani...lol. Haha i feel sorry for you man, shittiest country on earth. Persian pride mate, you guys are shit. Stop discussing, at least i thought you were iranian tajik or from tajikistan. Afghan lmfao.. get out of here. Khayyam and ferdowsi are 100 percent persian, read their poems. bye
@Kavehisftw Could you tell me, where the Persians originated? from Central Asia? have you noticed that the Central Asian's land was created 40-50 thousand years ago, it takes the second place after Africa. That time in Central Asia used to live only white people, which is Europeans!!! So take a look how was created Iran? In Iran that time was only two small cities which is Elam and Fars. So Persians migrated from Central Asia, get mixed with Elam and Fars that's how people become an Iranians.
@khorasanculture Also the greater khorasan was not only a part of tajikistan, if you check khwarizmis and khayyams and ferdowsis birthplace on wikipedia, they're all located in modern iran.
@khorasanculture He also said, lol. So yeah he encouraged people to drink wine, and probably did so himself, and was a muslim. What i meant was that he probably wasnt the type of super religious moron. He was just muslim because that was what you were at the time. Reffering to them as muslim-scientists, instead of their ethnicity, is what arabs do to steal the culture. Most people actually think khwarizmi was arab lol.
@khorasanculture Uncultured haha, i think people know more about persians than tajiks you stupid fuck. Read Khayyams and ferdowsis poems, and them comeback to me tell me they were fucking tajik. Either he was tajik, and a wannabe persian, like you, which i believe he was not, or he was a persian and proud over his empire. In tajikistan there is 6 million inhabitants, whom 99 percent is tajik people according to wikipedia, what else should they be dickhead.
@khorasanculture 2nd reply: If you think most of these scientists were real believers, youre fucking stupid, and just proved you havent read their poems.
Those who have gone forth, thou cup-bearer,
Have fallen upon the dust of pride, thou cup-bearer,
Drink wine and hear from me the truth:
(Hot) air is all that they have said, thou cup-bearer.
Very muslim in my opinion lol. Khayyams work. There is more if you want.
@khorasanculture It is not your history my friend, I've been studying to become an engineer, and all history books among these people say they were persian. Khayyam was born in Nishapur, how could he possibly been tajik. Khorasan is also located in Northwestern Iran. Not tajikistan. Although tajiks live there, most of them are persians. However, you should do some reasearch and you'll find out that tajik people are iranian people. Khayyam and Ferdowsi are persian, i've read their books lol.
@khorasanculture What the fuck are you talking about.. Khayyam, Razi, Khwarizmi, Ferdowsi is all referred to as persians in science books. Why should i call them tajik because you do
@khorasanculture ancient iraq was known as babylonia,it was once part of the persian empire,until th arabs invaded,slaughtered and conquerd the prsians and made them their bitches,you know very little about history pal,i think you are brainwashed
@khorasanculture ancient iraq was known as babylonia,it was onc part of the persian empire,until th arabs invaded,slaughtered and conquerd the prsians and made them their bitches,you know vry little about history pal,i think you are brainwashed
@khorasanculture persia was known as the cradle of civilization a long time before the arabs put their religion on you,if you think islam has advanced your nation then you are just another brainwashed zealot,islam is regressive and not progressive,it always kills the goose that lays the golden eggs,you will see this for yourself when your oil wealth is gone
@khorasanculture i think you forgot to mention that many of the top persian scientists did not believe in muhammadism,not all were muslim rockworshippers,watch this video " Medieval Skeptics of Islam - المتشككون في العصور الوسطى للإسلام
@khorasanculture - I know, I know! I don't know what can be done other than to resists these primates. They have no understanding of culture and this is why they can not tolerate anyone that does things differently. This is what happens when our neighbors are monkeys. In 16 century Europe, when there was enlightenment in one region because of us, others followed and contributed. In middle-east, when someone grows, everyone pulls them down and try to destroy them instead of growing with them.
Herat, bah, bah! the birth place of shah abbas (safavid), Jami and many more greats. Its a city I hope to visit some day. As for the racial meaning of aryan, you know, when I think about race I always end up at the same place, monkeys. So we were all jumping trees once, and I consider that one place. What's important is what we did after. I tell you some remain monkeys, although they walk upright and pretend to be human, we have many in Iran :-)
@khorasanculture - I agree, there are of course many forces at play. West has interest in the region, so they don't mind further disintegration of Iran. In fact they are hard at it through their stooges in Azerbaijan, Ahwaz, Kurdestan. Sad, but they have indeed drawn a new map. Then there is the Iranian Mahdi army, with a death wish, wanting to take us all to destruction in the hope of Mahdi to appear.And then Arabs who want Iran to disappear from the face of the planet. Iran, one happy place!
@khorasanculture - I have met a few Afghani's in Iran and a colleague of mine was an Afghani. My feeling is that we are one and the same. No one I know hates Afghani's but there are illiterates and greedy people everywhere exploiting other peoples misfortune. Iranian revolution also turned sour and we are lost too. Although governments have a great deal to do with this hatred that you mentioned, many countries want further disintegration of Iran too. Divide and Rule, that's what Churchill said!
@khorasanculture -As far as I know the term has a meaning in Avesta and this is often interpreted as Noble. So there may be a racial aspect, although, I tend to accept the Noble culture as oppose to race which Cyrus the great indeed showed by his bill of rights when he entered Babylon. Now that is Noble for its time and a culture I'd like to be a part of.
@khorasanculture - Yes, Turks! They have also turkified Azerbaijan and many Azari's don't remember their heritage. I am with you on that. Of course we are all human and there is no difference in that sense but there is something about Arabs, Turks and to some extent the western culture that makes them different to Persians (Iranic people). And that is they all hate diversity. They want everyone to be the same as them so they perform cultural circumcisions and implants.
@khorasanculture - True, which is exactly my point. Iran is not all about one ethnicity but many. Now, some provinces were given away, some lost by incompetent rulers. That does not change the fact that Iran is the land that exist today. Just that it no longer has sovereignty over those lands. Uzbek lost their ties with Iran, no longer speak the language and possibly have adapted a different culture too. Is this the same Uzbekistan that produced Khwarizmi? is Khwarazm the same as when under Iran
@khorasanculture - Iran (the land of Aryans) and by that I am not referring to the 19th century racist notion of the word Aryan, is what Iran has been called for over 2000 years as far back as I checked. In fact one evidence is shahnameh, whereby Ferdowsi says "Cho Iran nabashad taneh man mabad".
In fact Persia was name Greeks gave us due to the fact that Persepolis (Pars) was the capital of Iran. This error was finally corrected by Reza Shah. Parsi's are only a subset of a set called Iran.
@khorasanculture- I don't think it is confusing at all. Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Gorjistan, ... were all part of Iran once. Now call it as you wish, but they were part of this land. Following the Arab conquest of Iran, there has been a constant attempt to eliminate the name Iran and its cultural and scientific contributions by Arabs and later west. Specially after 9/11 they started attributing contributions made by Iranian scientists to Islam and hence Arabs to improve their image.
@khorasanculture - It is the same culture and if you read history you'll find that Persian culture has been kept alive by contributions of all those that lived in the greater Iran. As for the current treatment, unless you have been sleeping for the past 32 years or possibly not born then you should know how Iranian have been treated by a small minority in love with Arabian culture. You saved Persian culture, great. I am fully behind you as a Persian. But excluding is not a Persian tradition.
Arabs were The worse people of the world before the islam. mohammed was a good teacher and he learnd them good thing. but if the teacher is not in the classroom the the students do things wrong. today all we suffer all bad things we have in our countries is because of the arabs. they are supporting terosrism and the poor people of afghanistan have to suffer. but things will soon change. so the people are wrong not the islam. i don't know why arabs are proud that thy are arabs.
@khorasanculture Ibn Sina was Persian which includes all people from the modern Tajikastan, Afghanistan and Iran who speak different dialects of Persian. Indeed, Sina is still a common name among these nations.
@khorasanculture you are dirty, and I am a Tajik. I am proud that I am a Tajik. Yes it is not Afghanistan but Ariana or Khorasan. But we are in bad times, as soon as posible we will take our power back. Have a nice day...
There are a lot of mistakes Jaber Ibn Hayyan Arabic And his father emigrated from the southern Arabian Peninsula But the question here: Did you benefit from the knowledge of Jabir Ibn Haban and others who reminded them? I do not think so.
my friend Avicenna is not Iranian. you people call Sa'di shirazi, Hafiz shirazi , or some other cities are added to their name- according to their place of birth.. it is illogical to say sadi shirazi and abu ali sina Irani. you should call him abu ali sina balkhi,. jalaludeen balkhi.
@sha150680 Supposing Ibn Sina(name of a bird in Persian=Persian word) was an arab, what is added value to Arabs, u are finished, 50% illiterate,no rights for women,they don’t product something(no science),
They go to the west to do dirty jobs and benefits social systems,that ‘s what arabs are today!!!!!!!! Sorry for u arabs
@molezay Arabs are known for their honor, hospitality, faith and knowledge, but typically Iranian envy / hate and you are the proof - if not soon, you hear the largest Arab discovery in chemistry from me.
@m4unot My I don't say Arabs are not nice or they are stupid,I m not racist at all as I am from turk- Africain descent but my point was to some pan-arabs who think Islam and arabs are the cause of all inventions,that's not correct,Arabs are victims of their culuture and their ignorence todays.Every civilisation gets hight and low as do persian!!!!!!!!!!
@613072100 i am not an arab. but this is the fact that there were a lot of Arab scientists as well. in fact, more than any other nation. if you deny it, then you are lair.
I am not even Persian and I know this is how the list of top 10 scientists of all time should start. What pisses me off when I see Galileo ... Isaac newton on the top list when those morons were 800 years behind on their research.
@maa1441 im glad u didnt start insulting people cuz some iranians r crazy and start swearing and insulting poeple but bro im srry but ibn has been used in arab names for centeries and ibn sina was born in syria and btw al-Khawarismi is arab THE " AL" explains everything and he was born in iraq so im srry to disappoint u
Please stop making a fool of urself .. after Islam, it was very common among Iranians to use Arabic names. If u really think "ibn" and "al" is a proof, then go to India and Iran, Pakistan and Turkey, there are millions of Muslims with "ibn" and "al". So whay if ibn sina was borin in Syria, people moved from cities to another. Sina is a Persian name by the way. Khawarezmi was name after his own city "khawarez" in Iran.
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, N. Africa, r NOT ethnic Arab countries!
The existence of astronomical tables such as the Shahriyar Tables and the observatories which were later imitated by the astrologers and astronomers of the Islamic period prove the importance of astronomy in Iran during the Sassanid dynasty. Said al-Andalusí (1029–1070) was an Andalusi Muslim Qadi. in his book "Classes of People" he highly praised the knowledge of Iranians of that period in mathematics and astronomy.
Some Iranian scientists,physicians and philosophers before islam: -paul the persian -farhad -nersis -An Shigao -Borzūya -Bozorgmehr-e Boxtagan -philosophers: -jamasp -zoroaster -mazdak -mani
Iranians claim that Gagarin was also an iranian its very funny. Most of these scientist iran claims that they were iranian is not correct. As much as I am informed Abn Sina was an Afghan born in Balkh and Al jaber also.
@GeistXY Afghan people speak Iranian languages whether it is Pashtun, Tajiki, Farsi, Dari ETC. We must stop confusing the word Iranian meaning people inside Iran, with Iranian as an ethnic group.
Afhan people are in bad times, they are in war and other people are stealing our history. But one day they have to answer our qwestions---- like:most iranian says mevlana is fron iran, no he isn't, We have 5000 years hitory, Iran has 2500 years! We are in bad times and we have also bad neighbours, what a shame, becouse if we work together then we are the strongest, like Persia was (persia is not Iran, Iran is one peace of Persia) I am proud to be an Afghan ( Afghan means: not hazar)hazara=slave
@PDPAINRETURN Dude Iran has 7000 years of history. Just a travel to Louvre will show it to you. If Iran is not Persia, then you probably think that Afghanistan is Persia right? do u even know that Iran was called Persia just until 70 years ago?we change the name to Iran cause Iran is the name we have used for our country bin Persian for the last 3000 years. I dont ignore the Afghan history as we share it as much as we share our language. Mulana is Persian: both Iranian and Afghan
@PDPAINRETURN Dude Iran has 7000 years of history. Just a travel to Louvre will show it to you. If Iran is not Persia, then you probably think that Afghanistan is Persia right? do u even know that Iran was called Persia just until 70 years ago?we change the name to Iran cause Iran is the name we have used for our country in Persian for the last 3000 years (look shahname). I dont ignore the Afghan history as we share it as much as we share our language. Mulana is Persian: both Iranian and Afghan
@77sepehr What I am saying is that Mawlana was born in the place wich now is in Afghanistan. Yes you are right but the most people are claiming all the history for Iran that is not fair. The name of my country is Khorasan and also Ariana. But we are for more than 100 years in bad times becouse of the Briitish basterds (the are using the tactic 'divide and rule' ). I hope that one day all persian spoken countries come together then we will be strongest.
@GeistXY ,who is gagarin first of all? secondly in regards to the country called afghanistan : this land was always part of Iran/ persia until less tan two centuries ago when the Afghan( pashtoon) tribe in neighboring india( present day Pakistan) attacked and took over and their master the british rewarded them with the name afghanistan. the literary and cultural heritage of the place goes back to it,s persian/Iranic past and has NOTHING to do with Pashtoons
Idiot! In that time there was no such nation name Afghanistan! If u referr to pashtons, yes! U can say that the word afghan is synonymus to pashton! Afghanistan, Tajikistan and Central Asia was under one nation name Khorasan (Former Persia) In the golden ages of Islam! Abn Sina and Al Jaber ect were both iranic persians from eastern parts of Persia/Khorasan todays AFghanistan! Thank you!
IBN KHALDUN the great Arab scholar said: "Only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving knowledge and writing scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of the Prophet becomes apparent, 'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it'.
The intellectual sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the Arabs, who did not cultivate them, as was the case with all crafts. This situation continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries, Iraq, Khorasan and Transoxiana, retained their sedentary culture."
hi @alireza1400 thank you for posting this but i think you are wrong about the origin of avicenna(auzpakistan), razi(baghdad),jaber ibn hayan(his from alazad arbic tribe in syria),alfarabi(kazagistan), abo nsr(iraq),and altabri(demascus) thanks anyway :)
hi @alireza 1400 thanks for replying , can you mention please your sources cuz i got mine which is wikipedia+1001 inventions and both of them are trustworthy thanks:)
they had more common in them, it is that they all were muslims.
Not to mention what Prophet s.a.w said about persians
'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it'.
Hazrat Imam Abu Hanifa , Hazrat Imam Bukhari and many others were all persians. My brothers from persia are in misery and confusion these days because of there corrupt leaders. The same situation is with the others muslim Nations too. let it be Saudi Arab or Turkey.
they are all muslims, and wrote their books in arabic langauge. I need to see perstian scientists before islam came to persia? you have ? none? persia withou islam= pagen
@met3afleg Find out what happened to books in Ctesiphon and you will find out, to some extent what happened to Iranian Heritage. There are vertically no pre-Islamic books in their original form left
@met3afleg If you think Iran knew nothing of Science and Philosophy and Mathematics before Islam then you must lack the capacity to reason. Iran had contact with Greece, India, China, Babylonians, Assyrians, Armenians, Aramaic people and more, even if we were completely unoriginal, we would have still had a wealth of knowledge. Herodotus pointed out how quick Persians were to accumulate knowledge.
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All have Arabs names ,, and write there books in Arabs n study in Arab universitys in Baghdad or syria ,, n most of them are uzbic turk not persians ,, since when persians can use there mind other than hunting goats n eat pacheh ?
He was Persian. Who wrote he was Arab? When did Arabs
all scientists in this video were born in the confideration state of iran.their ethnicities are persian not arab.were arabs live iran?who wrote they are arab?
some they know multilingual and wrote book in arabic but they don't make hikm arab.please don't make yourself stupid.
(Persian: ابوعلی سینا) or Ibn Sīnā ابن سینا), was a Persian,polymath and the foremost physician and philosopher of his time. He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, logician, paleontologist, mathematician, physicist, poet, psychologist, scientist and teacher
(Persian: ابوریحان محمد بن احمد بیرونی), often known as Alberuni, (born 5 September 973 in Kath, Khwarezm (now in Uzbekistan), died 13 December 1048 in Ghazni, today's Afghanistan) was a Persian,polymath
nolurq, You are a MORON, What Turks? The Turks that are not Turks & have been in this land thousand years before Turks migrated you ignorant moron?
You are so confused & stupid you dont understand that the Turks living in Turkey, the Azeri in Azerbaijan were not, never were Turks, yes then the genes would be similar because they are already CAUCASIAN you ignorant Khar.
qasam, most everything in Persia was burned by arabs who invaded persia. they were ordered to burned every library to the last copy of book they found in persia as recorded in writungs and poetry of persians who hid their work or they would loose their heads. the purpose was to destroy all things which pointed to glory of persia and relate everything to arabs & islam. PERSIA was the LARGEST empire world had ever seen back then. persia& iranians were the source to many things, ideas & concepts
i wonder how could a great empire as you discribe would fall after 100 years of islam only...even the roman empire couldnt handle that powerfull knowledge that islam have teached into ppl...if you know what is the first that sura have bensentto the prophet(pbuh) youll understand that without islam humanity will be stone age forever.
Something that didnt exist in époque was the fascism and culture burglars!!! Transoxianas Turkic people were more civilized than you could imagine! The first comprehensive bilingual Turkic dictionary and encyclopedia written by Muhammad al-Kashghari (1000years ago); that still exist!
what is called turkey today was part of roman empire with greeks& romans living there. centuries later the mongols & turks took over,brought their own kind, turkified those who survived & stayed. one can not say the roman history in turkey is from turks because it is TURKEY NOW . same thing with kharazm, it was established by persians& peole living there were persians/iranians. taking over of a land by invasion, gradual immigration& calims does not bring ownership to people events in the past
What a good Persians, who wrote first Turkic dictionary and 300years later they start to wrote another in Farsi!!!
and I suggest you to study little bit of Shahname, to understand the border of Persian and Transoxiana people who call them Turanian. who teach 30 languages to Persians!!
indo-european, from India to Russia to Germany we are related.
i dont care how much barbaric mongols are left. Azeri Iranians and qashqai killed many uzbeks and iraqi arabs in war. Safavids drank blood in skull of captured uzbeks.
safavids were multhi ethnic. They were azeri but their ancestor was kurd, and they had also mixed with georgian. I praise them for fighting in name of Iran and killing many uzbek and ottomans who wanted to attack Iran.
they were not entirely turk as you say, i dont consider azeris to be turks geneticly they are far very close to kurds and persians and absolutely not close to kazakhs or uygurs for example. I have a video of a turkic tribe who never mixed with other nations, and have the pure turkic culture with shamanist religion. I will show them how they look like, because they are the original turkic peoples. I will find the video and post it to u, its very interesting.
yeah they were persian I proud of them
1Rastam 1 month ago
Where is rumi and everyone else?
mustafazakri 2 months ago
@mustafazakri
make a video with Mowlavi in it. I didnt know Mowlavi was a scientist!
alireza1400 2 months ago
allah bless our muslim brothers
persian really done alot to islam
RealRapAndHiphp 2 months ago
@RealRapAndHiphp, Keep your pagan god and your brutal, barbaric, ignorant cult of Islam it has nothing to do with us nor did we do anything to promote or accept your beggar cult of Islam. What we did we did before Arab animal came to our land, during Turks and Mongol invasion that you brought and after to this day and we give nothing to your pagan Islamic crap.
ReedamBeIslam 3 weeks ago
@ReedamBeIslam the only barbaric thing here is your agressive comment
RealRapAndHiphp 3 weeks ago
@RealRapAndHiphp, Sorry you dont like the truth, this is nothing new with Muslims that deny fact and reality and always manipulate the truth to suite there own agenda.
ReedamBeIslam 3 weeks ago
@ReedamBeIslam truth? what does this have to do with the truth? i said i am proud of my muslim brothers al khwarizimi was a muslim i dont deny facts or reality but what facts are you talking about? the only fact here is that al khwarizmi was a muslim and i am proud of him and every muslim should be proud of this great man
and unlike i am not attacking any one or showing aggression in my comments manipulate the truth to suite there own agenda? what are you trying to say?
RealRapAndHiphp 2 weeks ago
@RealRapAndHiphp, No Muslim born into it or convert wants the truth other wise Islam would not do it for them. Khwarizmi is the mans name, Arabs say Al Khwarizmi, second he was not a Muslim and as majority of Iranians of the time knew what a joke Islam & Arabs are. Iranian greats like Khyyam, Ferdowsi, Molavi and others despised Arabs and Islam but had to be careful so they are murdered by Muslims which is what you have accepted.
I said what I am trying to say.
ReedamBeIslam 2 weeks ago
@ReedamBeIslam obviously you are the one that is trying to manipulate the truth to suite your own agenda but what ever
like it or not al khwarizimi and these scientists were muslims :) i will ignore you nothing to argue with you you are a ignorant hater
RealRapAndHiphp 2 weeks ago
@NobleSavage1919 Balkh is a Persian (Tajik) city and a part of greater Iran , Avicenna was an ethnic Persian . Modern day Afghanistan was established by the Pashtun Hottaki and Durrani dynasties many years after the death of Avicenna .
KamyarM 3 months ago
Avicenna an Iranian? He was born in Balkh as was his father and fathers father & so on. His origin was modern day Afghanistan.
NobleSavage1919 3 months ago
Im an arab and fully acknowledge those scientists were persian, most scientists at the time were persian, but there were still arab ones, like al kindi, ibn al haytham, Ibn Khaldun, etc. but i thought that jabir bin huyyan was an arab at least thats what a book i brought when i was in middle school told me. pls correct me if im wrong.
1rebmunziza 4 months ago
@1rebmunziza jabir bin huyyan al azdi was arab from azd tripe not Iranian
XARABIAXx 3 months ago
@1rebmunz, Nearly all were Persian, Arabs try to take credit for ones born in Baghdad which was built after the Arabs slaughtered and destroyed Ctesiphon, it was built and ruled by Iranians and the Grand Vazir was Persian in Baghdad. Kindi was born & raised in Baghdad, Haytham also born in Baghdad but a Persian, Buyid Persian. Khaldun born in Tunis, Cairo which was not Arab but another nation forced into accepting being Arab. Jabir was born in Samarra another city in Iraq a Persian
ReedamBeIslam 3 weeks ago
Persians religion used be Orthodox christian, not Muslim religion, which is very close to Armenians religion, Greek religion, Georgians religion, some Russian Jewish, Bulgar, Serbians, and etc. At present time Iranians in Iran almost 80-90% has a Shia religion. Persians in Central Asia has a Sunna religion or Orthodox Christian or Atheist. Only Pamir Tajiks in Southern Tajikistan believe to Ismailizm, because Pamirians mixed with Albanians, their not clear Persians.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
Name some present-day people like Lotfi Zadeh or Dr. Ali Javan, etc.
BigT0wn 5 months ago
@khorasanculture Languages develop, swedish for example is full of persian words. Still, you speak persian, nothing else. Afghan piece of joke (afghan hahahaha) , stop writing to me and get a life, and i do have an education, a math education, which you probably was to stupid to get. I would keep talking to you if you weren't afghan, im not gonna spend more time on you my chinese looking friend. Everyone refers them as persians, live with it.
Cya
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@Kavehisftw I am from Samarkand and i met many Iranians, i was trying to speak with them in an Persian language, they ignored, they're saying that they're not persians anymore, they're azaris even they understand u. They're saying that their mother tongue language is Uzbek with the Turkish akcent. I met them also in another cities in Uzbekistan, they dont understand you when you are saying something in persian language. That means in Central Asia the Iranians very easily accepted Turkish lang?
expressioncrew1 5 months ago
@expressioncrew1 Are you high? 23% of the iranian population are Azeris. Ali Daei, Hossein Rezazadeh, Karim Bagheri, are great iranian azeris that have lived in Iran. But 51% of the population is Persians. What does big noses have to do with anything, all artworks from the scientist age portays them as dark haired.
Kavehisftw 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw How come Iranians in Iran still get practice a Shia religion which is an Arabic religion, you guys still do have an arabic alphabet, why?
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Why most Persian Science was born in Khorasan land and they were studied and practiced in Khorasan such as Balkh (Afghanistan), Samarqand, Bukhara, Kharezm, ( Uzbekistan). Because those 4 cities was belong to Tajiks ( Dari speaking )and most Tajiks used to live there, of course ancient time was called PERSIANS. ONLY KHORESMIANS TURKIFIED FULLY. SAMARKAND AND BUKHARA, BALKH still persians which is Tajiks at present time.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Why the Iranians called a Farsi zaban, but Tajiks called a Dari zaban?
expressioncrew1 5 months ago
@expressioncrew1
dari/farsi is same=persian.
That's why you use the term "farsiban", and not "dariban"
IranSepahbod 4 months ago
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that Kharezmian's fully Turkified, they hate Persians, I know a lot of Kharezmians, they proud to be an uzbek and loved them.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@camomilleable11 Lol, no I haven't. khorasanculture talks shit about turks and refers to himself as a tajik. But nowadays perhaps, but these scientists were mostly persian, not turks or uzbeks nor tajiks.
Kavehisftw 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that time only used to live Persians and was only one nation the Persians ( not iranians, tajiks, uzbeks, or any other ones) ONLY PERSIANS. Everybody used to have only one language, one alphabet. Persians originated from Central Asia, not from Iran. Central Asia oldest land than Iran. in Iran used be only two cities Elam which is Jew land and Farsi. Persians migrated to Elam and Farsi, get mixed with them that's how they become an Iranians.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Persians religion used be Orthodox christian, not Muslim religion, which is very close to Armenians religion, Greek religion, Georgians religion, some Russian Jewish, Bulgar, Serbians, and etc. At present time Iranians in Iran almost 80-90% has a Shia religion. Persians in Central Asia has a Sunna religion or Orthodox Christian or Atheist. Only Pamir Tajiks in Southern Tajikistan believe to Ismailizm, because Pamirians mixed with Albanians, their not clear Persians.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Have you noticed that even Bulgars originated from Central Asia in Balkh - Bulkh (Afghanistan), they used to be the Tajiks too. They moved to the Europe and get mixed with Europeans, after they created a country which is called BULGARIA.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@Kavehisftw Do you know who's the Yaghnobis? They're ancient Soghdians, they still live in Northern Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Do you have the Yaghnobis in Iran? Of course not. The Yaghnobis still speaking in old Soghdians language, and their writings an old Soghdian.
camomilleable11 5 months ago
@camomilleable11 What does it have to do with anything, khorasan is located on the other side of iran.
Kavehisftw 5 months ago
@khorasanculture I dont give alot for lawyers, math is the only right education, and most respectable.
If they were eastern iranic people, prove it, give me a text that confirms it. Every text says theyre persian. I'm sorry mate, you can claim them being of your race if you want, but fact is, you cant really know - all you can do is go after what fact says. You shouldnt talk about stealing languages, you have ours lol. The iranian diaspora is more successful than all others, so shut the f up.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@Kavehisftw Could you tell me why most Iranians has a dark skin and big noses like a Jews. Could you tell me why Tajiks still speaking their own language, but Iranians in Central Asia turkified, even Iranians still living with Tajiks, but fully they're turkified. Iranians dont speak a persian language anymore in most part of Central Asia such as in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. But Tajiks still speaking their own language in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.
expressioncrew1 5 months ago
@khorasanculture I am an engineer your stupid fuck. All european books i have read refer khwarizmi, ferdowsi and khayyam as PERSIANS. I just go after good sources, not some afghan motherfucker trying to take cred for what great persians achieved. I seriously laughed when u said ur afghan. Iran has great science and produces more science reports than anyone else.
I'm persian, not arab, i think you know that and i also think that you fail in making me angry with that lol.
chinese MFer
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture Tajik people live in the tajik state, not only, i know that, they exist in afghanistan, iran, pakistan and even turkey. You said tajikistan did not consist of tajiks dickhead.
So you are afghani...lol. Haha i feel sorry for you man, shittiest country on earth. Persian pride mate, you guys are shit. Stop discussing, at least i thought you were iranian tajik or from tajikistan. Afghan lmfao.. get out of here. Khayyam and ferdowsi are 100 percent persian, read their poems. bye
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@Kavehisftw Could you tell me, where the Persians originated? from Central Asia? have you noticed that the Central Asian's land was created 40-50 thousand years ago, it takes the second place after Africa. That time in Central Asia used to live only white people, which is Europeans!!! So take a look how was created Iran? In Iran that time was only two small cities which is Elam and Fars. So Persians migrated from Central Asia, get mixed with Elam and Fars that's how people become an Iranians.
expressioncrew1 5 months ago
@khorasanculture Also the greater khorasan was not only a part of tajikistan, if you check khwarizmis and khayyams and ferdowsis birthplace on wikipedia, they're all located in modern iran.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture He also said, lol. So yeah he encouraged people to drink wine, and probably did so himself, and was a muslim. What i meant was that he probably wasnt the type of super religious moron. He was just muslim because that was what you were at the time. Reffering to them as muslim-scientists, instead of their ethnicity, is what arabs do to steal the culture. Most people actually think khwarizmi was arab lol.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture Uncultured haha, i think people know more about persians than tajiks you stupid fuck. Read Khayyams and ferdowsis poems, and them comeback to me tell me they were fucking tajik. Either he was tajik, and a wannabe persian, like you, which i believe he was not, or he was a persian and proud over his empire. In tajikistan there is 6 million inhabitants, whom 99 percent is tajik people according to wikipedia, what else should they be dickhead.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture 2nd reply: If you think most of these scientists were real believers, youre fucking stupid, and just proved you havent read their poems.
Those who have gone forth, thou cup-bearer,
Have fallen upon the dust of pride, thou cup-bearer,
Drink wine and hear from me the truth:
(Hot) air is all that they have said, thou cup-bearer.
Very muslim in my opinion lol. Khayyams work. There is more if you want.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture It is not your history my friend, I've been studying to become an engineer, and all history books among these people say they were persian. Khayyam was born in Nishapur, how could he possibly been tajik. Khorasan is also located in Northwestern Iran. Not tajikistan. Although tajiks live there, most of them are persians. However, you should do some reasearch and you'll find out that tajik people are iranian people. Khayyam and Ferdowsi are persian, i've read their books lol.
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
@khorasanculture What the fuck are you talking about.. Khayyam, Razi, Khwarizmi, Ferdowsi is all referred to as persians in science books. Why should i call them tajik because you do
Kavehisftw 7 months ago
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@khorasanculture ancient iraq was known as babylonia,it was once part of the persian empire,until th arabs invaded,slaughtered and conquerd the prsians and made them their bitches,you know very little about history pal,i think you are brainwashed
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
@khorasanculture ancient iraq was known as babylonia,it was onc part of the persian empire,until th arabs invaded,slaughtered and conquerd the prsians and made them their bitches,you know vry little about history pal,i think you are brainwashed
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
@khorasanculture persia was known as the cradle of civilization a long time before the arabs put their religion on you,if you think islam has advanced your nation then you are just another brainwashed zealot,islam is regressive and not progressive,it always kills the goose that lays the golden eggs,you will see this for yourself when your oil wealth is gone
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
@khorasanculture i think you forgot to mention that many of the top persian scientists did not believe in muhammadism,not all were muslim rockworshippers,watch this video " Medieval Skeptics of Islam - المتشككون في العصور الوسطى للإسلام
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
Go Persians, from your arab neighbor
1rebmunziza 8 months ago
@khorasanculture - I know, I know! I don't know what can be done other than to resists these primates. They have no understanding of culture and this is why they can not tolerate anyone that does things differently. This is what happens when our neighbors are monkeys. In 16 century Europe, when there was enlightenment in one region because of us, others followed and contributed. In middle-east, when someone grows, everyone pulls them down and try to destroy them instead of growing with them.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - ha! Kako! Shiraziam. :-)
Herat, bah, bah! the birth place of shah abbas (safavid), Jami and many more greats. Its a city I hope to visit some day. As for the racial meaning of aryan, you know, when I think about race I always end up at the same place, monkeys. So we were all jumping trees once, and I consider that one place. What's important is what we did after. I tell you some remain monkeys, although they walk upright and pretend to be human, we have many in Iran :-)
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - I agree, there are of course many forces at play. West has interest in the region, so they don't mind further disintegration of Iran. In fact they are hard at it through their stooges in Azerbaijan, Ahwaz, Kurdestan. Sad, but they have indeed drawn a new map. Then there is the Iranian Mahdi army, with a death wish, wanting to take us all to destruction in the hope of Mahdi to appear.And then Arabs who want Iran to disappear from the face of the planet. Iran, one happy place!
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - I have met a few Afghani's in Iran and a colleague of mine was an Afghani. My feeling is that we are one and the same. No one I know hates Afghani's but there are illiterates and greedy people everywhere exploiting other peoples misfortune. Iranian revolution also turned sour and we are lost too. Although governments have a great deal to do with this hatred that you mentioned, many countries want further disintegration of Iran too. Divide and Rule, that's what Churchill said!
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture -As far as I know the term has a meaning in Avesta and this is often interpreted as Noble. So there may be a racial aspect, although, I tend to accept the Noble culture as oppose to race which Cyrus the great indeed showed by his bill of rights when he entered Babylon. Now that is Noble for its time and a culture I'd like to be a part of.
By the way I am from Shiraz.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - Yes, Turks! They have also turkified Azerbaijan and many Azari's don't remember their heritage. I am with you on that. Of course we are all human and there is no difference in that sense but there is something about Arabs, Turks and to some extent the western culture that makes them different to Persians (Iranic people). And that is they all hate diversity. They want everyone to be the same as them so they perform cultural circumcisions and implants.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - Yes, that's why I made the comment rejecting the racial interpretation.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - True, which is exactly my point. Iran is not all about one ethnicity but many. Now, some provinces were given away, some lost by incompetent rulers. That does not change the fact that Iran is the land that exist today. Just that it no longer has sovereignty over those lands. Uzbek lost their ties with Iran, no longer speak the language and possibly have adapted a different culture too. Is this the same Uzbekistan that produced Khwarizmi? is Khwarazm the same as when under Iran
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - Iran (the land of Aryans) and by that I am not referring to the 19th century racist notion of the word Aryan, is what Iran has been called for over 2000 years as far back as I checked. In fact one evidence is shahnameh, whereby Ferdowsi says "Cho Iran nabashad taneh man mabad".
In fact Persia was name Greeks gave us due to the fact that Persepolis (Pars) was the capital of Iran. This error was finally corrected by Reza Shah. Parsi's are only a subset of a set called Iran.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture- I don't think it is confusing at all. Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Gorjistan, ... were all part of Iran once. Now call it as you wish, but they were part of this land. Following the Arab conquest of Iran, there has been a constant attempt to eliminate the name Iran and its cultural and scientific contributions by Arabs and later west. Specially after 9/11 they started attributing contributions made by Iranian scientists to Islam and hence Arabs to improve their image.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture - It is the same culture and if you read history you'll find that Persian culture has been kept alive by contributions of all those that lived in the greater Iran. As for the current treatment, unless you have been sleeping for the past 32 years or possibly not born then you should know how Iranian have been treated by a small minority in love with Arabian culture. You saved Persian culture, great. I am fully behind you as a Persian. But excluding is not a Persian tradition.
Busticate 9 months ago
@khorasanculture
Read the video description first...
alireza1400 9 months ago
Arabs were The worse people of the world before the islam. mohammed was a good teacher and he learnd them good thing. but if the teacher is not in the classroom the the students do things wrong. today all we suffer all bad things we have in our countries is because of the arabs. they are supporting terosrism and the poor people of afghanistan have to suffer. but things will soon change. so the people are wrong not the islam. i don't know why arabs are proud that thy are arabs.
PDPAINRETURN 10 months ago
@khorasanculture Ibn Sina was Persian which includes all people from the modern Tajikastan, Afghanistan and Iran who speak different dialects of Persian. Indeed, Sina is still a common name among these nations.
77sepehr 10 months ago
@khorasanculture you are dirty, and I am a Tajik. I am proud that I am a Tajik. Yes it is not Afghanistan but Ariana or Khorasan. But we are in bad times, as soon as posible we will take our power back. Have a nice day...
PDPAINRETURN 10 months ago
where are al biruni, al nadim, zayd balkhi, mashar balkhi, sijzi,.. etc??? :S
im from herat, and im very proud of my ancestors. great warriors, great empires and great wise men! farhange farsi-tayiki zinde bad! :)
corderitodedios69 11 months ago
@corderitodedios69 I am from Iran and farhange parsi zende bad...damet garm.
77sepehr 10 months ago
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You mean the arab scientists who conqured persia
YUSKHAN 1 year ago
@YUSKHAN
ha????
alireza1400 11 months ago
He is an Afghan!
Afghans In History Episode Two - Avicenna (Ibn Sina)
PDPAINRETURN 11 months ago
He was an Afghan
see on youtube: Afghans In History Episode Two - Avicenna (Ibn Sina)
PDPAINRETURN 11 months ago
There are a lot of mistakes Jaber Ibn Hayyan Arabic And his father emigrated from the southern Arabian Peninsula But the question here: Did you benefit from the knowledge of Jabir Ibn Haban and others who reminded them? I do not think so.
mooood911 1 year ago
my friend Avicenna is not Iranian. you people call Sa'di shirazi, Hafiz shirazi , or some other cities are added to their name- according to their place of birth.. it is illogical to say sadi shirazi and abu ali sina Irani. you should call him abu ali sina balkhi,. jalaludeen balkhi.
sha150680 1 year ago
@sha150680
avicenna is not Iranian? then who is?
balkh was one of the ancient Iranian cities, Prophet Zoroaster was from balkh.
Shirazi,balkhi, kermani, sistani etc.. all are city names.
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@sha150680 Supposing Ibn Sina(name of a bird in Persian=Persian word) was an arab, what is added value to Arabs, u are finished, 50% illiterate,no rights for women,they don’t product something(no science),
They go to the west to do dirty jobs and benefits social systems,that ‘s what arabs are today!!!!!!!! Sorry for u arabs
molezay 1 year ago
@molezay Arabs are known for their honor, hospitality, faith and knowledge, but typically Iranian envy / hate and you are the proof - if not soon, you hear the largest Arab discovery in chemistry from me.
m4unot 11 months ago
@m4unot My I don't say Arabs are not nice or they are stupid,I m not racist at all as I am from turk- Africain descent but my point was to some pan-arabs who think Islam and arabs are the cause of all inventions,that's not correct,Arabs are victims of their culuture and their ignorence todays.Every civilisation gets hight and low as do persian!!!!!!!!!!
molezay 11 months ago
show me an Arab scientist and i'll show u a monkey driving a car which in all honesty is more possible
613072100 1 year ago
@613072100 i am not an arab. but this is the fact that there were a lot of Arab scientists as well. in fact, more than any other nation. if you deny it, then you are lair.
sha150680 1 year ago
@613072100 Why work and study when you have all this black gold simply leaking out of the ground? How very delightfully silly. Hahaha...
Excuse me, gluttony and decadence await... Chao
iAbeTouch 1 year ago
I am not even Persian and I know this is how the list of top 10 scientists of all time should start. What pisses me off when I see Galileo ... Isaac newton on the top list when those morons were 800 years behind on their research.
mohab18 1 year ago
and yet all there books were written by arabic language
and they were all sunni muslims
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13 :
Sunni ...Shia... Muslim... Non-Muslim... they're all IRANIC...
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alireza1400 arabian or iranian or uzbic turkish it doesnt matter as long as theyre muslims..im proud of them and respect them,,
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13 :
your comment just shows that you have no-respect for non-muslims... good day sir/madam...
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alireza1400 ur so dumm
ofcourse ill be proud of them coz theyre muslims like me
how did u c that i have no respect for non muslims
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13 :
1-Go fix your English
2-I do not have any extra time to waste on uneducated people like you...
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alireza1400 thats all what u have to say
looser
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13 thanks for making me laugh ya zalame.
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alireza1400
Those scientists labeled themselves as Muslims, so why are you so butt hurt about them being labeled as Muslims?
mohab18 1 year ago
@mohab18 :
What makes you think I deny the fact that they were muslim?
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alasko13 the point is they were not muslims, if u go through their work there's a great sense of dislike against islam mostly in form of satire
613072100 1 year ago
@613072100 you are a big liar. most of them mastered the religion before studying other science.
sha150680 1 year ago
persian culture stands firmly on its own two feet very well without any support from islam, arabs, or greeks
shervomatic 1 year ago
WOW! u guys r totaly uneducated
Al Khawarismi is arab
Ibn Sina is Arab
All those people u were talking about were arab except some poets that r actually persian. u really dont know shit!
Roofzar 1 year ago
@Roofzar :
Al khawrasmi was Arab??? LOL
Ibn Sina was Arab??? LOL
Dude, what history book you read?
They are both Iranic...Go educate yourself...
alireza1400 1 year ago
@alireza1400 haha
very funny read there books all writen by arabic language u go educate ur self
we rulrd ur country 4 hundreds of years
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13 :
LOL you are so ignorant...
alireza1400 1 year ago
@Roofzar
Ur extremely uneducated with NO clue about history.
Ibn Sina, and Khawarizmi were both Iranians and NOT Arabs.
Arabs are the ONLY people who enjoys messing with history, very childish.
maa1441 1 year ago
@maa1441 im glad u didnt start insulting people cuz some iranians r crazy and start swearing and insulting poeple but bro im srry but ibn has been used in arab names for centeries and ibn sina was born in syria and btw al-Khawarismi is arab THE " AL" explains everything and he was born in iraq so im srry to disappoint u
Roofzar 1 year ago
@Roofzar
Please stop making a fool of urself .. after Islam, it was very common among Iranians to use Arabic names. If u really think "ibn" and "al" is a proof, then go to India and Iran, Pakistan and Turkey, there are millions of Muslims with "ibn" and "al". So whay if ibn sina was borin in Syria, people moved from cities to another. Sina is a Persian name by the way. Khawarezmi was name after his own city "khawarez" in Iran.
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, N. Africa, r NOT ethnic Arab countries!
maa1441 1 year ago
@maa1441 name one persian scientist during the persian empire u cant
because all the great scientist came during when the arab rule hahahah
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13
Iran had also science before islam.
The existence of astronomical tables such as the Shahriyar Tables and the observatories which were later imitated by the astrologers and astronomers of the Islamic period prove the importance of astronomy in Iran during the Sassanid dynasty. Said al-Andalusí (1029–1070) was an Andalusi Muslim Qadi. in his book "Classes of People" he highly praised the knowledge of Iranians of that period in mathematics and astronomy.
IranMarzban 1 year ago
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IranMarzban 1 year ago
@maa1441 ibn sina born in afgan
khawarismi is uzbic
and all these countries were under the control of arab
alasko13 1 year ago
@alasko13
please educate yourself before posting such wrong and false comments my dear mr. "uzbic" alasko
IranMarzban 1 year ago
you know what all the earth is Iran right?
zaydouna6 1 year ago
Iranians claim that Gagarin was also an iranian its very funny. Most of these scientist iran claims that they were iranian is not correct. As much as I am informed Abn Sina was an Afghan born in Balkh and Al jaber also.
GeistXY 1 year ago
@GeistXY Afghan people speak Iranian languages whether it is Pashtun, Tajiki, Farsi, Dari ETC. We must stop confusing the word Iranian meaning people inside Iran, with Iranian as an ethnic group.
47saeed 1 year ago
@GeistXY :
Do you know who are Iranian people??? they sure are not only the residents of the country we call Iran today...
alireza1400 1 year ago 3
@alireza1400 very smart iran afghanestan uzbekistan and all central asia countries
werer under the control of arabs ..any invention for any scientist is 4 arab empire
because we were the ruler for all this countries
by the way we didnt hear of any scientist during the persian empire...
daaa
alasko13 1 year ago
Afhan people are in bad times, they are in war and other people are stealing our history. But one day they have to answer our qwestions---- like:most iranian says mevlana is fron iran, no he isn't, We have 5000 years hitory, Iran has 2500 years! We are in bad times and we have also bad neighbours, what a shame, becouse if we work together then we are the strongest, like Persia was (persia is not Iran, Iran is one peace of Persia) I am proud to be an Afghan ( Afghan means: not hazar)hazara=slave
PDPAINRETURN 11 months ago
@PDPAINRETURN Dude Iran has 7000 years of history. Just a travel to Louvre will show it to you. If Iran is not Persia, then you probably think that Afghanistan is Persia right? do u even know that Iran was called Persia just until 70 years ago?we change the name to Iran cause Iran is the name we have used for our country bin Persian for the last 3000 years. I dont ignore the Afghan history as we share it as much as we share our language. Mulana is Persian: both Iranian and Afghan
77sepehr 10 months ago
@PDPAINRETURN Dude Iran has 7000 years of history. Just a travel to Louvre will show it to you. If Iran is not Persia, then you probably think that Afghanistan is Persia right? do u even know that Iran was called Persia just until 70 years ago?we change the name to Iran cause Iran is the name we have used for our country in Persian for the last 3000 years (look shahname). I dont ignore the Afghan history as we share it as much as we share our language. Mulana is Persian: both Iranian and Afghan
77sepehr 10 months ago
@77sepehr What I am saying is that Mawlana was born in the place wich now is in Afghanistan. Yes you are right but the most people are claiming all the history for Iran that is not fair. The name of my country is Khorasan and also Ariana. But we are for more than 100 years in bad times becouse of the Briitish basterds (the are using the tactic 'divide and rule' ). I hope that one day all persian spoken countries come together then we will be strongest.
PDPAINRETURN 10 months ago
@GeistXY ,who is gagarin first of all? secondly in regards to the country called afghanistan : this land was always part of Iran/ persia until less tan two centuries ago when the Afghan( pashtoon) tribe in neighboring india( present day Pakistan) attacked and took over and their master the british rewarded them with the name afghanistan. the literary and cultural heritage of the place goes back to it,s persian/Iranic past and has NOTHING to do with Pashtoons
so your information is flawed grossly
onmygoldenwings 1 year ago
Idiot! In that time there was no such nation name Afghanistan! If u referr to pashtons, yes! U can say that the word afghan is synonymus to pashton! Afghanistan, Tajikistan and Central Asia was under one nation name Khorasan (Former Persia) In the golden ages of Islam! Abn Sina and Al Jaber ect were both iranic persians from eastern parts of Persia/Khorasan todays AFghanistan! Thank you!
Kamali22 1 year ago
@Kamali22 ur so dum ok for one period this countries was under the control of the persian empire
but that time it was under the rule of arabs
go cry for ur self
alasko13 1 year ago
@GeistXY Abn Sina and Al Jaber were never pashtons, so what u mean that they were afghans?
Kamali22 1 year ago
IBN KHALDUN the great Arab scholar said: "Only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving knowledge and writing scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of the Prophet becomes apparent, 'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it'.
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Mahdavi1990 1 year ago 13
The intellectual sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the Arabs, who did not cultivate them, as was the case with all crafts. This situation continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries, Iraq, Khorasan and Transoxiana, retained their sedentary culture."
Mahdavi1990 1 year ago
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Mahdavi1990 1 year ago
hi @alireza1400 thank you for posting this but i think you are wrong about the origin of avicenna(auzpakistan), razi(baghdad),jaber ibn hayan(his from alazad arbic tribe in syria),alfarabi(kazagistan), abo nsr(iraq),and altabri(demascus) thanks anyway :)
bofhd89o 1 year ago
@bofhd89o :
Dear bofhd89o: All the scientist listed in this video have Iranic root.
Avicenna : Iranic from Uzbakistan
Razi: Iranic from Iran(Rey)
Jaber: Iranic from Iran(Kurdistan)
Al farabi: Iranic from Afghanistan (Khorasan)
Abu Nasr: Iranic from Iran(Gilan)
Al Tabari: Iranic from Iran(Mazandaran)
alireza1400 1 year ago 2
hi @alireza 1400 thanks for replying , can you mention please your sources cuz i got mine which is wikipedia+1001 inventions and both of them are trustworthy thanks:)
bofhd89o 1 year ago
@bofhd89o : English Wikipedia.
alireza1400 1 year ago
they had more common in them, it is that they all were muslims.
Not to mention what Prophet s.a.w said about persians
'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it'.
Hazrat Imam Abu Hanifa , Hazrat Imam Bukhari and many others were all persians. My brothers from persia are in misery and confusion these days because of there corrupt leaders. The same situation is with the others muslim Nations too. let it be Saudi Arab or Turkey.
syedabdulaziz 1 year ago
they are all muslims, and wrote their books in arabic langauge. I need to see perstian scientists before islam came to persia? you have ? none? persia withou islam= pagen
met3afleg 2 years ago
Go educate yourself.
I feel bad for brainwashed people like you.
alireza1400 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA watch my videos you idiot LOL
parandehdarya 1 year ago
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- Borzouye
- Nersi,
- Farhad
- Marabai
- Paulus Persa
and others that i dont know at the moment i have to search it up,
there are clear evidences of pre-islamic libraries in Iran
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@met3afleg Find out what happened to books in Ctesiphon and you will find out, to some extent what happened to Iranian Heritage. There are vertically no pre-Islamic books in their original form left
47saeed 1 year ago
@met3afleg If you think Iran knew nothing of Science and Philosophy and Mathematics before Islam then you must lack the capacity to reason. Iran had contact with Greece, India, China, Babylonians, Assyrians, Armenians, Aramaic people and more, even if we were completely unoriginal, we would have still had a wealth of knowledge. Herodotus pointed out how quick Persians were to accumulate knowledge.
47saeed 1 year ago 2
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All have Arabs names ,, and write there books in Arabs n study in Arab universitys in Baghdad or syria ,, n most of them are uzbic turk not persians ,, since when persians can use there mind other than hunting goats n eat pacheh ?
AhuraMazdda 2 years ago
@AhuraMazdda :
1.They are Iranian(All iranian people are not Persian)... read the description of the video first.
2."since when persians can use there mind other than hunting goats n eat pacheh" stop leaving racist comments...
stop being racist...
alireza1400 2 years ago
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arab lizard eaters can't become scientists?go blow yourself
arab brainless shit
xerxes394 2 years ago
stop leaving racist comments...
alireza1400 2 years ago
PAYANDEH IRAN .... Wa Zendeh Bad IRANIIIIII
roozwelt 2 years ago 2
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Khwarizmi was NOT Arab
He was Persian. Who wrote he was Arab? When did Arabs
all scientists in this video were born in the confideration state of iran.their ethnicities are persian not arab.were arabs live iran?who wrote they are arab?
some they know multilingual and wrote book in arabic but they don't make hikm arab.please don't make yourself stupid.
xerxes394 2 years ago
(Persian: ابوعلی سینا) or Ibn Sīnā ابن سینا), was a Persian,polymath and the foremost physician and philosopher of his time. He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, logician, paleontologist, mathematician, physicist, poet, psychologist, scientist and teacher
xerxes394 2 years ago
(Persian: ابوریحان محمد بن احمد بیرونی), often known as Alberuni, (born 5 September 973 in Kath, Khwarezm (now in Uzbekistan), died 13 December 1048 in Ghazni, today's Afghanistan) was a Persian,polymath
xerxes394 2 years ago
Nouriq, By the way MORON, Kurds are Caucasian, they are PERSIAN, they are of the IRANIAN TRIBES THAT SETTLED in this region.
seanamico 2 years ago
nolurq, You are a MORON, What Turks? The Turks that are not Turks & have been in this land thousand years before Turks migrated you ignorant moron?
You are so confused & stupid you dont understand that the Turks living in Turkey, the Azeri in Azerbaijan were not, never were Turks, yes then the genes would be similar because they are already CAUCASIAN you ignorant Khar.
seanamico 2 years ago
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al harezmi are uzbek(turkic)
avicenna uzbek(turkic)
al farabi kazak(turkic)
fake video fuck iranian pirates
M4nyakYakisikli 2 years ago
Uzbeks are a mix of Iranian and Turkic people.
alireza1400 2 years ago
@M4nyakYakisikli
turks were in mongolia when we were writing books in persian.
stop with your failed propaganda.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
Jabir was born in TUS(Khorasan,Iran).
alireza1400 2 years ago
As I said "I do not have time to talk to a brainwashed kid like you"
alireza1400 2 years ago
so can you name some scientist before islam ?
with iranian names..
qasam80 2 years ago
Do you know how to read?
Go read some books about Jundi Shapur Medical Academy and you will find name of Persian Scientists.
alireza1400 2 years ago
- Borzouye
- Nersi,
- Farhad
- Marabai
- Paulus Persa
and others that i dont know at the moment, or unfortunately we have lost...
there are clear evidences of pre-islamic libraries in Iran
IranMarzban 2 years ago
qasam, most everything in Persia was burned by arabs who invaded persia. they were ordered to burned every library to the last copy of book they found in persia as recorded in writungs and poetry of persians who hid their work or they would loose their heads. the purpose was to destroy all things which pointed to glory of persia and relate everything to arabs & islam. PERSIA was the LARGEST empire world had ever seen back then. persia& iranians were the source to many things, ideas & concepts
onmygoldenwings 2 years ago 2
i wonder how could a great empire as you discribe would fall after 100 years of islam only...even the roman empire couldnt handle that powerfull knowledge that islam have teached into ppl...if you know what is the first that sura have bensentto the prophet(pbuh) youll understand that without islam humanity will be stone age forever.
qasam80 2 years ago
even rome couldnt handle wat? ... extremely violent barbarism unseen to man since that time?
liner986 2 years ago
barbarism?
i hope you get to the streets of tehran and say that...
qasam80 2 years ago
OKI... Streets of Tehran ha???
Kisse immak ala kisse ekhtak. yabne khanzir.
khar al kalb athare men falestine.
Kisse rabbak.
BLOCKED!
alireza1400 2 years ago
so what is your problem?
hes a muslim if you like it or not...and have an arabic name...rascism are quit blindfull my freind.
qasam80 2 years ago
watch your language oki?
Dude,you have some serious issues.READ WHAT I WROTE IN THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION and blab after that.
alireza1400 2 years ago
Something that didnt exist in époque was the fascism and culture burglars!!! Transoxianas Turkic people were more civilized than you could imagine! The first comprehensive bilingual Turkic dictionary and encyclopedia written by Muhammad al-Kashghari (1000years ago); that still exist!
rezarezaii 2 years ago
what is called turkey today was part of roman empire with greeks& romans living there. centuries later the mongols & turks took over,brought their own kind, turkified those who survived & stayed. one can not say the roman history in turkey is from turks because it is TURKEY NOW . same thing with kharazm, it was established by persians& peole living there were persians/iranians. taking over of a land by invasion, gradual immigration& calims does not bring ownership to people events in the past
onmygoldenwings 2 years ago
What a good Persians, who wrote first Turkic dictionary and 300years later they start to wrote another in Farsi!!!
and I suggest you to study little bit of Shahname, to understand the border of Persian and Transoxiana people who call them Turanian. who teach 30 languages to Persians!!
rezarezaii 2 years ago
@rezarezaii
turanians were iranians, turkics stole the name.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
hahaha fuck you gypsy
orjinal turks came from ötüken
ötüken is now in mongolia
orjinal aryan people came from tibet:)
and everybody people know uzbek kazak azeri turkmen uygur are turkic people:)
they are living turkestan
nolurqitme 2 years ago
@nolurqitme:
1)Go fix your English
2)Stop using abusive language.
alireza1400 2 years ago
so my donkey.. you agree with me >>turk=mongolia
Iranians lived in central asia, not tibet.
uzbek,kazak are real turks, the rest like azeris qahqai and even many people living in Turkey are largely turkified non-turks.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
shut up farse khar
you are not arians you are hundu arian people have blue eyes :)
anatolians turks + azeri turks+qashqai turks populations=130 milions
uzbek and kazak populations only 30 milions shut up monkey
nolurqitme 2 years ago
indo-european, from India to Russia to Germany we are related.
i dont care how much barbaric mongols are left. Azeri Iranians and qashqai killed many uzbeks and iraqi arabs in war. Safavids drank blood in skull of captured uzbeks.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
safavids are azerbaijan turk
they are speak turkish:)
all the time turks fought other turks tribies
go learn idiot:)
nolurqitme 2 years ago
safavids were multhi ethnic. They were azeri but their ancestor was kurd, and they had also mixed with georgian. I praise them for fighting in name of Iran and killing many uzbek and ottomans who wanted to attack Iran.
read idiot.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
safavids are turk
sah ismail said he was turk
sah ismail said ''ey peri endamlı türk''
nolurqitme 2 years ago
This Shia dynasty was of mixed ancestry (Azerbaijani],Georgian, Greek,Kurdish and ruled Iran from 1501/1502 to 1722.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
they were not entirely turk as you say, i dont consider azeris to be turks geneticly they are far very close to kurds and persians and absolutely not close to kazakhs or uygurs for example. I have a video of a turkic tribe who never mixed with other nations, and have the pure turkic culture with shamanist religion. I will show them how they look like, because they are the original turkic peoples. I will find the video and post it to u, its very interesting.
IranMarzban 2 years ago
watch?v=2KopD0R38w4 this is the video, showing the purest turkic people, who have kept their culture and habits
IranMarzban 2 years ago
:) hahaha what do you say :) monkey?
sah ismail said he was turk:) you said he is not turk:) :P
and tuva people mixed mongols:) look kazak people are turkefield:) orjinal kazaks are mongol :) and uygur uzbek azeri anatoliand turks and kırgız:)
orjinal turkic people
anatolians turks and uygur turks dna %70 same
and look iran:) your dna very similiar our dna why? because 35 milions azeri turks living in iran :)