They're having the orchestra's conductor conduct this, I'm guessing? Rather than whoever specifically works with the choir? He's giving them entrance cues, but next to no cutoffs... cutoffs are just as important as entrances to keep a piece sounding clean! Plus, the conducting is kind of erratic, like the typical orchestra conductor... I know this because I also play cello in addition to sing...
It's custom in classical choir music, especially when doing a mass or oratorio, to hold music throughout the piece, solo or otherwise. If you notice she barely looks at the music if at all.
It's custom in classical choir music, especially when doing a mass or oratorio, to hold music throughout the piece, solo or otherwise. If you notice she barely looks at the music if at all.
oh my goodness this is the song my choir is singing!!!!!!!!!!! I ABSOLUTELY LUV IT!!!!!!!!!!!! i want the solo soooo bad... but considering there's only 2 or 3 pplz tryin out... i think i hav a pretty good chance,... LUV THIS SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
This is faster than most performances but not wrong. The usual tempo makes too much of local things, wringing them out for all they are worth. Here, the phrases as musical structures themselves and their relation to each other creates an overall picture of the movement, which is the beauty and simplicity of the litany. Very good interpretation and phrasing.
@loaactnow Isn't two minutes and fifty seconds long enough to ask the Lord for mercy? I've learned that interpretation must take into account the picture of the overall piece. It is not only what is happening at the moment. Loooooooooooooooooooooooorrdd, haaaaaaaaaavee mmmeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrccyyyyyyyyyyyyyy isn't the idea of the music, I don't think. thanks for your comment though.
Seems slightly rushed in my opinion... Too bad since the choir is very good and could have easily pulled it off slower:) but I guess its the conductors interpretation.
*Definitely* rein in the soprano parts! The surrounding surfaces are far too acoustically "hard" and bounce the high notes out of balance to the other parts. A bright, up-tempo piece of work here - perhaps not a suitable tempo for the piece. OTOH, amateur choruses tend to be too "draggy" - find a nice balance. On the whole, visually superb setting, acoustically horrible setting, but a nice performance of a work surpassed in beauty, IMO, only by the Allegri/Mozart "Miserere".
good quality group, but sopranos are too loud. soprano soloist have a pretty voice. The way master conducts is really exciting and easy the musicians to follow even do what he wants to be done.
We're playing this in my orchestra, too. We're trying to take it just a little slower than this. Our concert is Wednesday; joy. Lol. It seems like the chorus is way too loud, drowning out the orchestra too much. Just my opinion though; it's probably the style?
i personally prefer it faster. it may be because everytime i've heard it slower it's always been a high school orchestra or choir that isn't as highly skilled
The original score (available free from Choral Public Domain Library) marks the Kyrie as "Andante con moto", tempo 72. This performance is "Allegro ma non troppo" at a tempo of 120+! One could perhaps overlook that on the Gloria, but it is far too fast for the Kyrie. Possibly we are being treated to a performance of the Schubert Mass in G for those with busy schedules and not much time to spare! ;-) But the pronounced up-tempo performance *does* negatively affect the majesty of the work...
Absolutely agreed... we performed the Sanctus quite allegretto grazioso and the Gloria moderato, but the remainder was quite stately. To each their own, I guess. :)
Probably the conductor need a wc...
billobach 5 months ago in playlist Schubert - Messa in Sol D167
and the conductor.... his conducting skills are crazy... i can not see a clear 3/4 conducting technique
dancermadchen77 1 year ago
@dancermadchen77 it's because he's showing the music, not the 3/4 ;)
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@dancermadchen77 it's because he's showing the music, not the 3/4 ;)
osxars 11 months ago
They're having the orchestra's conductor conduct this, I'm guessing? Rather than whoever specifically works with the choir? He's giving them entrance cues, but next to no cutoffs... cutoffs are just as important as entrances to keep a piece sounding clean! Plus, the conducting is kind of erratic, like the typical orchestra conductor... I know this because I also play cello in addition to sing...
aseretkavon 1 year ago
+ for technique and sound, but big - for tempo. Kyrie is so calm and steady, but you killed the spirit of this part. Too bad...
mareklonger 1 year ago
ack... das ist viel zu schnell...
MokuseiNoArashi 1 year ago 3
Lovely and very good solo. Thanks.
sanjeeb2 1 year ago
too fast... "TEMPO" is accelerated too, looks like a military march, not the "Schubert Kyrie."..!!
antiseri 2 years ago
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its pathetic that shes holding her music while singing. its only two words.
bugr88 2 years ago
Right! And it's also just two notes...
mortenbh 2 years ago
yes but those high notes are a lot harder to sing then you know!!
beleive me I KNOW!!!!!!
livinlifelikeiminluv 2 years ago
@mortenbh its not just two notes--¬¬
cutestkiara 1 year ago
lol... kinda harsh it is classical music lol
loaactnow 1 year ago
@bugr88
It's custom in classical choir music, especially when doing a mass or oratorio, to hold music throughout the piece, solo or otherwise. If you notice she barely looks at the music if at all.
Throwthebones15 1 year ago
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*customary
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@bugr88
It's custom in classical choir music, especially when doing a mass or oratorio, to hold music throughout the piece, solo or otherwise. If you notice she barely looks at the music if at all.
Throwthebones15 1 year ago
@bugr88 yep, it's actually standard practice for requiems,oratorios, Mass's etc...for the soloist to have the music. It's sort of like a prop. :)
operaman20 1 year ago
@bugr88 no its not it actually looks professional if you know what that is!
livroxchloe 1 week ago
the tempo is good !! my god!!
117mathieu 2 years ago
oh my goodness this is the song my choir is singing!!!!!!!!!!! I ABSOLUTELY LUV IT!!!!!!!!!!!! i want the solo soooo bad... but considering there's only 2 or 3 pplz tryin out... i think i hav a pretty good chance,... LUV THIS SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
lovingirl103 2 years ago
my HS madrigal choir sang this song for a concert. i wanted to get the solo but i didn't get it :( i also love the Credo.
h0n3yma1d 2 years ago
This is faster than most performances but not wrong. The usual tempo makes too much of local things, wringing them out for all they are worth. Here, the phrases as musical structures themselves and their relation to each other creates an overall picture of the movement, which is the beauty and simplicity of the litany. Very good interpretation and phrasing.
aamusc 2 years ago 2
you make a good point, but I like the slower tempo because its more expressive of the phrase, remember we are asking the Lord to have mercy!!!!
loaactnow 1 year ago
@loaactnow Isn't two minutes and fifty seconds long enough to ask the Lord for mercy? I've learned that interpretation must take into account the picture of the overall piece. It is not only what is happening at the moment. Loooooooooooooooooooooooorrdd, haaaaaaaaaavee mmmeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrccyyyyyyyyyyyyyy isn't the idea of the music, I don't think. thanks for your comment though.
aamusc 1 year ago
I agree with the rushing and the clothing comments, but I'll still take this recording over some of the other terrible high school choirs!
clkaggie06 2 years ago 2
Can someone give me details where I can find the English translation please?
classyteacherdiva 3 years ago
Kyrie Eleison
Christe Eleison
Kyrie Eleison
Lord have Mercy
Christ Have Mercy
Lord have mercy
choirboy526 3 years ago
So muss das klingen :)
ILoveKaters17 3 years ago
Seems slightly rushed in my opinion... Too bad since the choir is very good and could have easily pulled it off slower:) but I guess its the conductors interpretation.
mewoth 3 years ago
yeah i agree, way too fast - my conductor does that alot
sparkyisbonkers 3 years ago
*Definitely* rein in the soprano parts! The surrounding surfaces are far too acoustically "hard" and bounce the high notes out of balance to the other parts. A bright, up-tempo piece of work here - perhaps not a suitable tempo for the piece. OTOH, amateur choruses tend to be too "draggy" - find a nice balance. On the whole, visually superb setting, acoustically horrible setting, but a nice performance of a work surpassed in beauty, IMO, only by the Allegri/Mozart "Miserere".
Keelhauler 3 years ago
good quality group, but sopranos are too loud. soprano soloist have a pretty voice. The way master conducts is really exciting and easy the musicians to follow even do what he wants to be done.
buzato 3 years ago
Sehr schöne Aufnahme, sehr schöne Interpretation und grossartige Solistin. Für meinen Geschmack etwas zu schnell. Noch etwas mehr geniessen!
samada3us 3 years ago
aber die bläser fehlen :(
mkuess24 3 years ago
Diese Messe hat im Original keine Bläser, nur Streicher: Violine1/2, Viola, Cello, Bass.
samada3us 3 years ago
We're playing this in my orchestra, too. We're trying to take it just a little slower than this. Our concert is Wednesday; joy. Lol. It seems like the chorus is way too loud, drowning out the orchestra too much. Just my opinion though; it's probably the style?
CanisDuris 3 years ago
im playign this in highschool i think we're playing it a bit slower though
why do all these churches have to look like streets...
reanueax 3 years ago
J'admire la superbe voix de la soprano.
Le choeur est excellent, les voix bien réparties quant au tempo, il me convient.
Je l'ai chanté à Rennes voici 25 ans ;-))
Philippe
Kerlerot 3 years ago
a little too fast... I think it's prettier slower
riana21688 3 years ago 2
i personally prefer it faster. it may be because everytime i've heard it slower it's always been a high school orchestra or choir that isn't as highly skilled
Serotonergic 3 years ago
The original score (available free from Choral Public Domain Library) marks the Kyrie as "Andante con moto", tempo 72. This performance is "Allegro ma non troppo" at a tempo of 120+! One could perhaps overlook that on the Gloria, but it is far too fast for the Kyrie. Possibly we are being treated to a performance of the Schubert Mass in G for those with busy schedules and not much time to spare! ;-) But the pronounced up-tempo performance *does* negatively affect the majesty of the work...
Keelhauler 3 years ago 13
Absolutely agreed... we performed the Sanctus quite allegretto grazioso and the Gloria moderato, but the remainder was quite stately. To each their own, I guess. :)
riana21688 3 years ago
and the "clothes" of the conductor does the negatevely affect of the work more negatively...
werwarich 3 years ago
in effetti è davvero troppo veloce! :)
vcomini1 2 years ago
precioso!!
alhicya 4 years ago