A Brief History of Neoliberalism by David Harvey 2/5

[AndroidPolitician]

There was a lecture given by the guy who wrote "Lockdown" and his point was that capitalism became too good from the 40s to 60s.

The idea is that companies could no longer make a bigger profit because everyone already bought everything.

[darkprose]

"We'll give you the individual liberty and freedom, and you forget the social justice." Harvey's words are so plausible, here -- it certainly appears that this is precisely what has happened.

[bapyou]

Fascism. It's what's for dinner!

[quakeroats0316]

Has anyone read his book? how much of his presentation is focused on what he wrote in the book?  Is any of it information that he had not included in the book?

[Hamandchees3]

@quakeroats0316

you can read it on google books. Of course he leaves a lot of details out in this talk due to time but it's a pretty good summary.

[fiumano2112]

Thanx for puthing this hear

[motina10]

So far this guy is still arguing from the statist position today... so far. Perhaps the problem is the state... especially the idea of the nation state, or a global state.

[motina10]

Capitalism was failing because of government intervention. Public indoctrination programs (aka public education). So instead of fixing what was actually broke, they were instead focusing on their wallets I guess. I would say we have witness the failure of STATE communism and STATE capitalism. Really, the 'privatization' of business didn't really address the other issues concerning the failings of capitalism.

[motina10]

So the differnce between classical and neo liberal movements is that neoliberalism does not take into social justice?

[FreakishDonQuixote]

most classical liberals where for free education, neolibs do the opposite. classical liberalism was a movement that was always strongly pro-democratic, from the bottom up, neoliberalism is the opposite. neoliberalism is really a perversion of cl. liberalism.

[MarmaladeINFP]

@FreakishDonQuixote Many American founders were for free public education, subsidizing presses to make newspapers available to everyone, protectionism against transnational corporations, etc. Contrary to the rhetoric of some, equality in results can't be separated from equality of opportunity. The only way to create equality is by redistributing wealth (such as to public education or such as Paine's ideas in Agrarian Justice) in order to reverse the prior redistribution to the oligarchy.

[LeftPolitiko]

@motina10 if you read harvey's book (which i strongly recommend doing) you'll find that he says that neoliberals take many of the same ideas of classical liberalism (individual freedom and the like.) The "neo" part comes from their general adherence to neo-classical economics.

[univity78]

You can call shit gold.. It remains shit!

Neoliberalism has kept the majority in poverty and the elite fat and rich. Its disgusting how greedy these people are. Heartless thiefs and oppressors walking around so proud of themselves. What a waste of maternity they were.

[RobSSBB]

@univity78 Here, Here! I used to believe in liberalist values and detested conservative values. I still do detest conservative values, but, I understand now that both sides are essentially flawed.

One solution to the current problems is simple, MAKE THE ELITE AND BILLIONAIRES PAY TAXES PROPORTIONAL TO THEIR EARNINGS. I know things are more complicated with global capital flows and offshore bank funds, proportionality can be used to gain more quality in the flow to ensure greater stability.

[jsgdk]

going back to the jungle isnt good.. some apes have grown so strong and fat already.. aint much competition in the jungle anymore :/

[BillBillard]

i'm surprised to hear a committed leftist intellectual use the phrase "sectarian debates" with a pejorative tone.

d.h. says that we've all absorbed neo-liberal ideology. exactly. "sectarian debates" is a euphemism for "anti-intellectualism".

the essential aspect is to know exactly when to sublate our nuances for the sake of the fundamental framework.

i.e. '68 esp.