@Licks555 actually the kid can be tried as an adult because where theyre from, murder enables ANYONE within the jurisdiction of their state to be tried as an adult, along with adult sentencing.
I don't know why people are defending this kid. How would you feel if you were 8 and your 12 year old stepbrother walked in and killed your mother right in front of you. Unfortunately the father is obviously trash though considering the kid found a shotgun just lying around. So i guess it wasn't entirely the kids fault.
@Licks555 Its a little harsh too charge the father his 12 year old son is now a murderer and might be spending the rest of his life in prison and he lost his fiancee and future child i think what that man is going through is punishment enough
@garrettcollins9 What about the fiance's family? Every other kid that does this because the parent isn't careful. Obviously, the possible ramifications weren't enough to secure the shotgun safely. You're right that it seems harsh but how long are we going to accept this and call them accidents?Whats worse? A guy that has one glass of wine too many and gets into a fatal accident or a guy that isn't careful with his weapon? The DWI guy got hurt and lost his car,isn't that enough?
thats fucked you cant try the child as an adult, we all know absolutely no rehabilitation goes on in prison all it does is make people worse. this kid will probs end up killing himself or just become an even worse person. i dont know if this has gone through the courts yet but if he is sentenced to life in prison whoever does it including that smooth talking prosecutor will have a whole fuck load of bad karma, or will be sent to hell (if ur religious)
@DonRizz617 What are you talking about? If the prosecutor can prove in court that he knowingly and willingly murdered someone, there's no way a jury can find him not guilty. However, I'm assuming you're trying to be funny.
ffs he is A CHILD an theres an ak47 for every person in this world what bothers me is the fact your consitional right is to bear arms , noway what about rights of free medical help as we do in uk also children shouldnt be around guns please an comments like i hate this kids face is what im getting at if your adults act like pyschos so will your children i mean also why do you need semi atuomatic weappons for gee i rest my case as would you give this child DRUGS NO YOU WOULDNT WHY? HE S A MINOR
WOW, you americans are REALLY RETARDED. Even if he DID it. He shoudlnt face a life in prison. 1. WHY the hell does someone lets a shotgun laying around? 2. The parents should be punished.
@ddioppp Are you realy that stupid, can you not remember being 12? At 10 i knew what was WRONG and what was RIGHT. Children aren't as stupid as everyone makes them out to be.
@amionutube A 12 year old should not go to prison. A 12 year old does not understand what it means to kill someone, theres a reason why kids shouldnt play around with guns. And just because you knew what was right and wrong at 10 does not mean its the same for everyone else.
@Sarksiro The average kid knows right from wrong by age 8. This kid is 12, so unless he is developmentally delayed, he sure as hell knew what was going on.
@squazzer And? Even if he knew that. Who is to blame? Parents. Who let the gun laying around? His parents. This is just an absurd discussion. No wonder your nearly the most stupid industrial nation. Maybe the 18 iq points in average make the difference to germany.
What makes America so different from any other muslim country. Both countries have got problems like these. They are just as bad as each other, this shit doe not happen in muslim countries but if it did the worlds media is all over it. AMERICA THE LAND OF THE PROPAGANDA AND HOME OF THE HYPOCRISY.
@ShameOnTardz YOU MORON YES HE S COMMITED A HORRIBLE CRIME would you give your child a DRUG meth heroin no you wouldnt but to trial him as a adult is so wrong then send him to an adult jail is crminal negligence in my humble opinion unjust what makes you so godly an a judge jury an exacutionar 6 pppl agree with you but your no better then him what about rehabilation oh sorry you wouldnt know what that is in states an youve found him guilty yet he s recived no trial wrong wrong in so many ways
@uk7roomdaddy He wouldn't be sent to an adult jail until he is 18 or 21 ( depending on countries) and yes he deserves time in prison if found guilty, children at 12 know what they're doing whether it be right or wrong.
Also, I doubt the kid (if he actually did commit the murder) would fully assess the future consequences. Kids do stupid things, this just went a step too far. I doubt he'll be a killer once he's an adult - that's just a guess, and none of you can truly know that. Anyway, we live in a society run by a crazy fucking system, so I say put the kid in prison. Who actually cares? Killing and death is only natural. ;) MUHAHAH kidding. Sorta.
if hes only 12 why doesnt he go to juvi?? cos then he'll still be secure in case he has more violent outbreaks and stuff and he wont be around other potentially violent people who might promote crime or something
@Skar7216 you are not intelligent at all. that was the worst sentence structure ever and you should be ashamed. your whole family should feel great dishonour. or something like... who do you think will be in juvi with him ? psst its not a christian retreat they are in there for robbing, smoking drugs or something else.. like maybe killing a pregnant woman with a shotty or something.
@maveryk Well I'm so VERY sorry, but as I was on my phone, I didn't really have the time to spend on grammar and punctuation and sentence structure. Also in juvi they will still have an opportunity to get better, in adult prison there is more likely a chance to be a bunch of adults giving him a jump start to his life of crime if he continues it. Also don't tell me about my sentence structure, have you ever met a shift key? Psst it's on YouTube, you're not my mother and how I type is my choice.
@Skar7216 Translation for all you people out there: He should go to juvi to get a second chance potentially as there'll be more sorry people there than in adult prison. He won't have as many people around him telling him how great crime is and life will continue. Also as he's a young offender shouldn't he be sent to juvi first and then if it goes wrong again for him adult prison. Everyone needs a chance.
@DuraheLL Children have less morals than adults, and I get what you mean about the brutal murder, but as children make more mistakes, the adults in charge of the trial should try and be slightly more understanding in the process of deciding what happens, than they would with an adult, because adults have spent more time on earth, they will have learnt more about what's wrong and what's right, but children wouldn't. But as I'm a child I might be being biased or whatever so..
@Skar7216 You are absolutely right. But he is 12 years old, on the edge of not being a child anymore. Practically becoming more grown up at this point. He is not 5 years old, he should at this point have gotten down the basics about life and death and the true rights and wrongs... I remember by childhood day by day since I was like 5 years old and I can say that most people I knew were grown up at age 12, only more childish, but to heart they were becoming young grown ups
@DuraheLL That is very true, I wonder if he maybe had any psychiatric tests done to see if it was maybe something to do with his mental health, as some people's sense of right and wrong is different because of their mental health. At 12 people are generally more grown up but all people are different. I do agree that something has to be done, but I think that his age and possibly mental health should be taken into consideration.
HOWS PRISON GONNA HELP HIM? HES GONNA GET MORE VILOENT THE PEOPLE ONLY SAY HE SHOULD BE IN PRISON BECAUSE THERE MADE BUT THATS NOT GOING TO HELP THIS KID sometimes america i think we are stupid...
@HunkMine Sorry. But im just fucking furious. How can you just take away a childs life!!???... I mean its just so evil that i can't descripe it with words! And that somebody defends this and support it? I seriously just can't understand how somebody can be so fucked up. So cruel. So... Evil
@Iamfreakingawes0me You are just some ingornant person that doesnt act, just talks - if you care that much mail letters to legislation or join a pro life interest group
@HunkMine Its ignorant pieces of shit like you that makes this world a bad place. They just want to keep being ignorant and just don't care about other people. Take yourself fucking together and get educated.
@Iamfreakingawes0me Kid, grow up; the world is not a big argument to see who gets the last word - I need to finish playing cello - but seriously if you care so much do as i said
@HunkMine or should i say @11haythem? I love how you completely ignore my question and try to offend me just because I come with some great arguments. You're pathetic. I hate people like you. Childish. They come with some extremely childish, retarded and stupid comments and then when they realise they are retarded they just start to try to offend people and play smart.
@HunkMine And what relevans does it have that you need to play cello? I mean wtf? I play piano and trumpet myself which I have done for 10 years now but how is that in ANY way relevant to this discussion?
@Iamfreakingawes0me I really suggest you travel to(or at least watch documenteries about) some of the african, south american and middle east countries then you can start talking about what countries are fucked up and what arent until then have a hot cup of STFU
@killer21334 Just because other countries have big big problems as well does not mean USA isn't fucked up. I suggest you actually watch and compare USA with basically all other western countries and realise how fucked up your country actually is compared to other civilized countries.
@Iamfreakingawes0me first of all I would like to point out that I do not infact live in america so I am not deffending it because I live there but because I cant stand how people bitch about america so lets see, france is being owerhelmed by illegal emmigrants who join crime and terrorist organisations and are forcing the french out, england has had some serious riots and now they have to make their laws more strict, the greeks are suffering from an econimic crisis(cant finish not enough leters)
@killer21334 USA is being overwhelmed with illegal immigrants from Mexico nd ive heard some republicans have even suggested building a wall between them and Mexico? I mean talk about fucked up. USA also have the biggest dept in the world and just keep producing more money and they are also in an economic crisis.
@killer21334 USA did not have healthcare until recently and the new one only covers few. So millions of poor people can't get help if they are deadly sick! They have psyko gangs, big drug problems and some of the highest crime rates in the world. They still have death penalty and they, as the only country in the world, send 13-14 year olds to jail for life without parole. Etc. etc. etc. In my eyes they are fucked up and I can't understand how they still TODAY is not more civilized.
yeah right it takes the mind of an 18 year old for killer instincts... everybody before the age of 5 has probably killed a cockroach or a spider that they have found in their house just because it was easier than putting it in a jar and letting it free outside. what im getting at is that the boy was probably fed up with the problems he was having with his mom, so instead of trying to work things out, he killed her because it was easier
@MyHIphop16 for the sake of argument a 20 gauge shotgun is small enough for a 12 year old , it goes (smallest to biggest) .410, 28 ga, 20 ga, 16 ga, 12 ga, 10 ga , 8 ga and 4 gauge. However i have to agree with you on the dad doing it , what a bitch move making his 12 yr old kid take the rap lol
@MyHIphop16 You clearly know nothing about guns... a 20 gauge shot is the size of my pinkie. Maybe a 12 gauge would have been harder for him to shoot but it still would have been possible. And btw, it dosent matter if the recoil would knock him back. Once the shot is fired anything after dosent matter...
at 11 or 12.. u know right from wrong.. you defiantly know if you shoot somebody they might die..life in prison..lil harsh based purely on his age.. but he deserves some form of serious punishment...people.. this kid fucking killed somebody!!!
he definitely needs help and needs prison time yes, but not life in prison.. he IS a child. This boy needs the Lord as much as we all do :( wow.. how tragic.
something's wrong. theyre are serial killers who get sentenced for like 20yrs-30yrs in prison but this kid only killed 1person and the kid is only 12 and he could face life in prison?????....wtf? something is definitely wrong here
you Americans aren't trusted to drink beer before you are 21 right ? Do any of you realize that your justice system is all fucked up ? 6 million of you are in prison already, I suppose putting another child in there for life won't matter.
Brenda Mooney shows her complete lack of intelligence and almost christian blindness when she comments at the end of the video. She is no expert and has no idea of the mentality of this child. If he had the mentality of an 18 year old surely he wouldn't have done it. It's not like when you hit 18 you start thinking about killing people. More mature people would think far enough to relise it's a stupid idea but with 12 years of life skills he his judgement wont be that of 18. FUCK, child=child.
the kid will live with this the rest of his life and will never forgive himself, sure he deserves some jail time and some punishment, but not life, not for a tragic mistake he made when he was young
This is just what needs to be done!! You people who are defending this killer are stupid idiots. Sick or not, that is not an excuse!! You kill and face the fucking consequences!! Let that person be 10, 15 ,18 or 20. I don't give a shit!! My country should have the same laws!!
WHAT? I dont give a fuck if its 12, 20 or even 5. That asshole took someones life, that persons is gone forever and no coming back, there are no seconds chance in life. That kid is a MURDER, and imagine what he is going to do as an adult. Who kills with no reason except for defending his life, MUST die.
@AlanForsaken His a child. He does not understand the full consequences of his actions. An adolescent's brain can't control impulses as an adult can. Also you want to show that killing is wrong by doing the exact same thing? That makes you a murder. So your philosophy is retarded since you then must die. And then the person who kill you must die. Etc. Etc. You are thinking so primitive and idiotic that its unbelieveable.Also the method is shown not to work at all.
@Iamfreakingawes0me Dude, if a guy kills a FUCKING MURDERER, A FUCKING RAPIST, he is a HERO. What you suppose to do with that kind of people? Wait for them to rot in prison, i dont think so, you must make them feel fear in order to them to stop doing what they do. Educations doesnt work with that kind of people, the minds are corrupted, they arent going to change.
@AlanForsaken In countries with death punishment they have way higher crime rates than in countries were they don't and usually the countries with death punishment are not very civilized. China, countries in middleeast, USA. All very primitive countries in their own way and were people not care much for the poor and helpless. If you can't give life. Dont take life.
@Iamfreakingawes0me AJAJAJAJAJJA, DUDE, you are more than welcome to come to Argentina whenever you want. Here there isnt death punishment, here if someone enters you house, kill every single person in your family and you kill him, YOU SPEND YOUR LIFE IN PRISON, there is no justice here, not even selfdefence. TRUST ME, here we all wish for death punishment.
I must agree with the women at the end of the clip. "If a child uses a gun...he has the mind of 18 years old." You may think me brutal but I must ask what's adulthood? If you can provide the same understanding as adults like many young movie stars, should you be treated as adult?
Wait what? Is this possible? In Denmark you need to be 15 to get in prison and 18 to be punished 100% as an adult. If you're under 18 you won't get as big a punishment and if your 15 and lets say kill a person he would not go to jail but insted to an instution were they will help him. WTF is USA this sick? Sending a 12 year old child to jail for life?
@Iamfreakingawes0me He shot a pregnant woman with a shotgun dipshit. People like you are the reason immigrants are swarming to Europe and taking over.
@ozwick14 So? his 12 old you fucking retard. A 12 year old does not shoot someone with a shot gun for no reason. He must either be sick in the head so he needs to get to somekind of clinic were they can help him or he is raised be psykoes. And how did he get a shotgun? In Denmark its illegal to even have a pistol lying around unless you have a license and in USA kids run around with shotguns? People like you are the reason why kids get killed by gun accident you fucked up psykopat.
@Iamfreakingawes0me Ok I'll send some kids round your house to kill your fucking family and then lets see if you're still spinning the 'they're only kids lets help them' bullshit. He commited the crime now he has to pay the consequences
@ozwick14 Thats an idiotic example. They aren't going to a normal family you fucked up piece of shit. In Denmark we pay tax so that these kids can get help. They get to an institution. So yes. They are only kids. We help them. Because we are humans who care for children. We are not cruel psykopats and child murder supporters like you.
@Iamfreakingawes0me by the age of 12 you know the difference between right and wrong, i.e you would know that it would be wrong to steal something or Kill somebody, therefor i think, at the age of 12 he should be tried as a child but have the same sentencing rules as an adult.
@TheSniperWelshCelt No you don't. By the age 12 you are still very much under the influence of your parents. You are not a grown up you are a kid. You don't know the consequenses of your actions. So either he must be sick in the head or raised like this.
@TheSniperWelshCelt I have researched a little and his age did mather luckily. The kids life is not taken away from him. One of the things why the judge made this decision is because a defense psychologist testified in January that an adolescent's brain can't control impulses as an adult would. So you are wrong.
@TheSniperWelshCelt And also if they already know whats right and wrong when they are 11 why shouldn't they be allowed to drink, have sex and vote when they are 11?
Wait so.. this kid muffled a SHOTGUN? didn't know that was possible, also with the amount of force that 12 gauge would have had.. he'd probably of missed/been blown off his feet.. so even if he did do it there'd be concrete evidence it was him, sounds like he was framed.
Where's the death penalty when you need it. Think of all the money taxpayers will have to spend on this little fuckhead. Hopefully he'll kill himself or get his asshole fucked by a 20 inch dick and die that way.
thats a very untrue statement responsable adults handle and take care of there weapons and make sure if thay have children there some where thay dont have accses to them idk if your one of thoes countrys that think america is the devil well its not we have bad things just like any other country and if our goverment dose somthing bad its not the people just like if your goverment sucked dose not mean its your falt
UGLY ASS BITCH 1:22. Fucking stupid ass mofo too. Bet she would've changed her story and made her 21 year old gold digging boyfriend be charged as a juvenile.
The crime here is allowing a child to get a hold of a shotgun to begin with.
eChuckNorris 12 hours ago
@Licks555 actually the kid can be tried as an adult because where theyre from, murder enables ANYONE within the jurisdiction of their state to be tried as an adult, along with adult sentencing.
bandages13 12 hours ago
He deserves life in prison for sure.
TheOfficialTML 1 day ago
I don't know why people are defending this kid. How would you feel if you were 8 and your 12 year old stepbrother walked in and killed your mother right in front of you. Unfortunately the father is obviously trash though considering the kid found a shotgun just lying around. So i guess it wasn't entirely the kids fault.
Castas1801 1 day ago
Old enough to kill, old enough to be sent to jail
PS2viciado 1 day ago
WHERE DID A KID GET A SHOTGUN???!!!!!!!!!!!!
ericn911 2 days ago
@ericn911 America
rogerfraserr 1 day ago
The father should catch a charge. Where did this kid get a gun from? You can't try him as an adult, but you can the father.
Licks555 2 days ago
@Licks555 Its a little harsh too charge the father his 12 year old son is now a murderer and might be spending the rest of his life in prison and he lost his fiancee and future child i think what that man is going through is punishment enough
garrettcollins9 1 day ago
@garrettcollins9 What about the fiance's family? Every other kid that does this because the parent isn't careful. Obviously, the possible ramifications weren't enough to secure the shotgun safely. You're right that it seems harsh but how long are we going to accept this and call them accidents?Whats worse? A guy that has one glass of wine too many and gets into a fatal accident or a guy that isn't careful with his weapon? The DWI guy got hurt and lost his car,isn't that enough?
Licks555 19 hours ago
thats fucked you cant try the child as an adult, we all know absolutely no rehabilitation goes on in prison all it does is make people worse. this kid will probs end up killing himself or just become an even worse person. i dont know if this has gone through the courts yet but if he is sentenced to life in prison whoever does it including that smooth talking prosecutor will have a whole fuck load of bad karma, or will be sent to hell (if ur religious)
ainsleywainsley 3 days ago
Yeah what if it was the father? Maybe messing up the kids head if he doesn't take the blame and such, threatening the little girl, etc
99izsy 3 days ago
What if it was the father who did it and blamed it on the kid?
GoGipInc 3 days ago
I find the real culprit is father who keeps a shotgun so accessible that an 11 year old can access and use it. jail him first
babanachiket 3 days ago
if i was leaning right by the door outside, i would pull out my pistol,kick open the door,shoot him in the head,and save mom.
BooProductions21 3 days ago
Wow a Yank killing someone, nothing new there.
scotzgeezer 3 days ago
he didn't do it, he's white. he'll beat the case, they'll try him as a kid n a jury will find him not guilty.
DonRizz617 3 days ago
@DonRizz617 What are you talking about? If the prosecutor can prove in court that he knowingly and willingly murdered someone, there's no way a jury can find him not guilty. However, I'm assuming you're trying to be funny.
midatlantic09 3 days ago
you know who wrote a pretty good law that could help end this moral debate? hammurabi
fireinthesky1394 4 days ago 17
@fireinthesky1394 I wish I could thumb this up more.
meepenator3 4 days ago
Last 15 seconds is priceless!
AlexanderAngell 4 days ago
ffs he is A CHILD an theres an ak47 for every person in this world what bothers me is the fact your consitional right is to bear arms , noway what about rights of free medical help as we do in uk also children shouldnt be around guns please an comments like i hate this kids face is what im getting at if your adults act like pyschos so will your children i mean also why do you need semi atuomatic weappons for gee i rest my case as would you give this child DRUGS NO YOU WOULDNT WHY? HE S A MINOR
uk7roomdaddy 4 days ago
WOW, you americans are REALLY RETARDED. Even if he DID it. He shoudlnt face a life in prison. 1. WHY the hell does someone lets a shotgun laying around? 2. The parents should be punished.
I think he doesnt even realise what is going on.
Sarksiro 4 days ago
@Sarksiro a kid with a gun knows wht hes doing, don't be so fucking naive.
amionutube 4 days ago
@amionutube no. he does not know what he is doing. he is a child.
ddioppp 4 days ago
@ddioppp Are you realy that stupid, can you not remember being 12? At 10 i knew what was WRONG and what was RIGHT. Children aren't as stupid as everyone makes them out to be.
amionutube 2 days ago
@amionutube A 12 year old should not go to prison. A 12 year old does not understand what it means to kill someone, theres a reason why kids shouldnt play around with guns. And just because you knew what was right and wrong at 10 does not mean its the same for everyone else.
ddioppp 2 days ago
@Sarksiro i agree. americans are fucking retarded assholes.
ddioppp 4 days ago
@Sarksiro The average kid knows right from wrong by age 8. This kid is 12, so unless he is developmentally delayed, he sure as hell knew what was going on.
squazzer 4 days ago
@squazzer And? Even if he knew that. Who is to blame? Parents. Who let the gun laying around? His parents. This is just an absurd discussion. No wonder your nearly the most stupid industrial nation. Maybe the 18 iq points in average make the difference to germany.
Sarksiro 3 days ago
So what if he's a kid he killed TWO people that didn't finish or start their life.
UndenifiedError404 5 days ago
What makes America so different from any other muslim country. Both countries have got problems like these. They are just as bad as each other, this shit doe not happen in muslim countries but if it did the worlds media is all over it. AMERICA THE LAND OF THE PROPAGANDA AND HOME OF THE HYPOCRISY.
NSXgtA 5 days ago
wtf? shouldn't the dad be the first suspect?
skullkid64mm 5 days ago
@skullkid64mm well thats a good point
Skar7216 5 days ago
yeah well this is what du get
eschr1985 5 days ago
His dad did it.
DrStarscream94 6 days ago
he was trying to commit redneck abortion.
Free28761 6 days ago
yea this happened 20 minutes near me, sad situation all around
nm5177 6 days ago
wierd....i was doing a essay of ''too easy to get a gun Amereica?" this proved my answer...
gamefreaker54 6 days ago
@gamefreaker54 you should do an essay on Spelling America lol....sorry coudln't help myself.
Kissarmy12 6 days ago
@Kissarmy12 and that's why i got a C in Computer Skills
gamefreaker54 6 days ago
I HATE THIS KIDS FACE IWANNA WRECK HIM ..FKIN MURDERER .
ShameOnTardz 6 days ago 20
@ShameOnTardz and your a real bad ass
TapouT1TapouT 5 days ago
@ShameOnTardz YOU MORON YES HE S COMMITED A HORRIBLE CRIME would you give your child a DRUG meth heroin no you wouldnt but to trial him as a adult is so wrong then send him to an adult jail is crminal negligence in my humble opinion unjust what makes you so godly an a judge jury an exacutionar 6 pppl agree with you but your no better then him what about rehabilation oh sorry you wouldnt know what that is in states an youve found him guilty yet he s recived no trial wrong wrong in so many ways
uk7roomdaddy 4 days ago
@uk7roomdaddy He wouldn't be sent to an adult jail until he is 18 or 21 ( depending on countries) and yes he deserves time in prison if found guilty, children at 12 know what they're doing whether it be right or wrong.
amionutube 4 days ago
@ShameOnTardz what the hell is wrong with you?
swinchesterful 4 days ago
They should beat him slowly to death :)
TheMintyrebel 6 days ago
his fathers fault
mariuskaupas 6 days ago
Clearly that dumb cunt at the end doesn't have the mind of an 18-year-old. Or even an 8-year-old.
gregtube88 6 days ago
why do the stupid amerikens sell shotguns to rednecks!?
lolcakekakelol 1 week ago
Also, I doubt the kid (if he actually did commit the murder) would fully assess the future consequences. Kids do stupid things, this just went a step too far. I doubt he'll be a killer once he's an adult - that's just a guess, and none of you can truly know that. Anyway, we live in a society run by a crazy fucking system, so I say put the kid in prison. Who actually cares? Killing and death is only natural. ;) MUHAHAH kidding. Sorta.
InFlamezzzzz 1 week ago
Make him work for the US government, as a hit-man slash detective slash spy! ... Problem = solved!
InFlamezzzzz 1 week ago
if hes only 12 why doesnt he go to juvi?? cos then he'll still be secure in case he has more violent outbreaks and stuff and he wont be around other potentially violent people who might promote crime or something
Skar7216 1 week ago
@Skar7216 you are not intelligent at all. that was the worst sentence structure ever and you should be ashamed. your whole family should feel great dishonour. or something like... who do you think will be in juvi with him ? psst its not a christian retreat they are in there for robbing, smoking drugs or something else.. like maybe killing a pregnant woman with a shotty or something.
maveryk 1 week ago
@maveryk Well I'm so VERY sorry, but as I was on my phone, I didn't really have the time to spend on grammar and punctuation and sentence structure. Also in juvi they will still have an opportunity to get better, in adult prison there is more likely a chance to be a bunch of adults giving him a jump start to his life of crime if he continues it. Also don't tell me about my sentence structure, have you ever met a shift key? Psst it's on YouTube, you're not my mother and how I type is my choice.
Skar7216 6 days ago
@Skar7216 Translation for all you people out there: He should go to juvi to get a second chance potentially as there'll be more sorry people there than in adult prison. He won't have as many people around him telling him how great crime is and life will continue. Also as he's a young offender shouldn't he be sent to juvi first and then if it goes wrong again for him adult prison. Everyone needs a chance.
Skar7216 6 days ago
I'd say torch the boy to death with a torchlight
DuraheLL 1 week ago
@DuraheLL death supporter??
Skar7216 1 week ago
@Skar7216 bet your sweet ass on it
DuraheLL 1 week ago
@DuraheLL Ok then...just so you know you were a kid once...but whatever
Skar7216 6 days ago
@Skar7216 and I never did shit like that because I knew better and it does not matter I was a kid once anyways
DuraheLL 6 days ago
@DuraheLL Well everyone makes mistakes and I guess you just weren't one of those people...but kids should be cut a little slack because of their age.
Skar7216 5 days ago
@Skar7216 absolutely, but I don't call brutally murdering somebody "a little slack" though
DuraheLL 5 days ago
@DuraheLL Children have less morals than adults, and I get what you mean about the brutal murder, but as children make more mistakes, the adults in charge of the trial should try and be slightly more understanding in the process of deciding what happens, than they would with an adult, because adults have spent more time on earth, they will have learnt more about what's wrong and what's right, but children wouldn't. But as I'm a child I might be being biased or whatever so..
Skar7216 5 days ago
@Skar7216 You are absolutely right. But he is 12 years old, on the edge of not being a child anymore. Practically becoming more grown up at this point. He is not 5 years old, he should at this point have gotten down the basics about life and death and the true rights and wrongs... I remember by childhood day by day since I was like 5 years old and I can say that most people I knew were grown up at age 12, only more childish, but to heart they were becoming young grown ups
DuraheLL 5 days ago
@DuraheLL That is very true, I wonder if he maybe had any psychiatric tests done to see if it was maybe something to do with his mental health, as some people's sense of right and wrong is different because of their mental health. At 12 people are generally more grown up but all people are different. I do agree that something has to be done, but I think that his age and possibly mental health should be taken into consideration.
Skar7216 5 days ago
HOWS PRISON GONNA HELP HIM? HES GONNA GET MORE VILOENT THE PEOPLE ONLY SAY HE SHOULD BE IN PRISON BECAUSE THERE MADE BUT THATS NOT GOING TO HELP THIS KID sometimes america i think we are stupid...
halodude178 1 week ago
@halodude178 USA is definitely one of the most fucked up countries in the world.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me sure...
HunkMine 1 week ago
@HunkMine Sorry. But im just fucking furious. How can you just take away a childs life!!???... I mean its just so evil that i can't descripe it with words! And that somebody defends this and support it? I seriously just can't understand how somebody can be so fucked up. So cruel. So... Evil
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me Are you just fucking dumb, wow
HunkMine 1 week ago
@HunkMine What a great argument.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me You are just some ingornant person that doesnt act, just talks - if you care that much mail letters to legislation or join a pro life interest group
HunkMine 1 week ago
@HunkMine Its ignorant pieces of shit like you that makes this world a bad place. They just want to keep being ignorant and just don't care about other people. Take yourself fucking together and get educated.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me Kid, grow up; the world is not a big argument to see who gets the last word - I need to finish playing cello - but seriously if you care so much do as i said
HunkMine 1 week ago
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@HunkMine or should i say @11haythem? I love how you completely ignore my question and try to offend me just because I come with some great arguments. You're pathetic. I hate people like you. Childish. They come with some extremely childish, retarded and stupid comments and then when they realise they are retarded they just start to try to offend people and play smart.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@HunkMine And what relevans does it have that you need to play cello? I mean wtf? I play piano and trumpet myself which I have done for 10 years now but how is that in ANY way relevant to this discussion?
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me I really suggest you travel to(or at least watch documenteries about) some of the african, south american and middle east countries then you can start talking about what countries are fucked up and what arent until then have a hot cup of STFU
killer21334 6 days ago
@killer21334 Just because other countries have big big problems as well does not mean USA isn't fucked up. I suggest you actually watch and compare USA with basically all other western countries and realise how fucked up your country actually is compared to other civilized countries.
Iamfreakingawes0me 6 days ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me first of all I would like to point out that I do not infact live in america so I am not deffending it because I live there but because I cant stand how people bitch about america so lets see, france is being owerhelmed by illegal emmigrants who join crime and terrorist organisations and are forcing the french out, england has had some serious riots and now they have to make their laws more strict, the greeks are suffering from an econimic crisis(cant finish not enough leters)
killer21334 6 days ago
@killer21334 USA is being overwhelmed with illegal immigrants from Mexico nd ive heard some republicans have even suggested building a wall between them and Mexico? I mean talk about fucked up. USA also have the biggest dept in the world and just keep producing more money and they are also in an economic crisis.
Iamfreakingawes0me 6 days ago
@killer21334 USA did not have healthcare until recently and the new one only covers few. So millions of poor people can't get help if they are deadly sick! They have psyko gangs, big drug problems and some of the highest crime rates in the world. They still have death penalty and they, as the only country in the world, send 13-14 year olds to jail for life without parole. Etc. etc. etc. In my eyes they are fucked up and I can't understand how they still TODAY is not more civilized.
Iamfreakingawes0me 6 days ago
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yeah right it takes the mind of an 18 year old for killer instincts... everybody before the age of 5 has probably killed a cockroach or a spider that they have found in their house just because it was easier than putting it in a jar and letting it free outside. what im getting at is that the boy was probably fed up with the problems he was having with his mom, so instead of trying to work things out, he killed her because it was easier
afropwn 1 week ago
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afropwn 1 week ago
He looks like the boy from the Omen...
Sueweet1 1 week ago
first off this 12 year old shooting a 20 gauge is bullshit it would knock him on his ass i guarantee his dad did it
MyHIphop16 1 week ago 27
@MyHIphop16 why would a kid that old do that
callumguinnane101 6 days ago
@MyHIphop16 I take it you have never shot a 20, I started shooting one at that age and it was nothing, 12 wasn't even that bad.
MrLaytonM 6 days ago
@MyHIphop16 for the sake of argument a 20 gauge shotgun is small enough for a 12 year old , it goes (smallest to biggest) .410, 28 ga, 20 ga, 16 ga, 12 ga, 10 ga , 8 ga and 4 gauge. However i have to agree with you on the dad doing it , what a bitch move making his 12 yr old kid take the rap lol
Kissarmy12 6 days ago
@MyHIphop16 just because it would have knocked him over doesn't mean he couldn't have pulled the trigger, you only need one shot
axalara360 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 Im sorry to dissapoint beacuse as a gun fanatic at 12 i could shoot a 20 gauge shot gun and i would not be knocked onto my ass?
siikshotscinema 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 Dude I was shooting 20 bore shotguns at 12 years old. I was probably shooting 12 bores at that age too.
TheSnowPetrol 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 thats what i was thinking the whole video lol its almost obvious
TheCityLightz 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 My 10 year old little brother is shooting a 20 gauge...
danishoffens 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 dude 20 guages are hella weak
Trej56v2 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 You clearly know nothing about guns... a 20 gauge shot is the size of my pinkie. Maybe a 12 gauge would have been harder for him to shoot but it still would have been possible. And btw, it dosent matter if the recoil would knock him back. Once the shot is fired anything after dosent matter...
CookieMonster999111 5 days ago
@MyHIphop16 yeah it would knock him on his ass after the shot? common sense anyone?
dv4eva 4 days ago
@MyHIphop16 Have you ever shot a 20 gauge? the kick isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
ByBySucker 4 days ago
@MyHIphop16 so? he can still fire the shot...
ddioppp 4 days ago
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TheDrwhobiggestfan 1 week ago
at 11 or 12.. u know right from wrong.. you defiantly know if you shoot somebody they might die..life in prison..lil harsh based purely on his age.. but he deserves some form of serious punishment...people.. this kid fucking killed somebody!!!
SuperKA85 1 week ago
@SuperKA85 killed two people! The chick was preggo!
deadlythedarren 1 week ago
That little shit deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his pathetic life.
leaderOFlosers 1 week ago
he definitely needs help and needs prison time yes, but not life in prison.. he IS a child. This boy needs the Lord as much as we all do :( wow.. how tragic.
luridhue 1 week ago
Does Pennsylvania have the death penalty? If so use it!!
777Talon 1 week ago
something's wrong. theyre are serial killers who get sentenced for like 20yrs-30yrs in prison but this kid only killed 1person and the kid is only 12 and he could face life in prison?????....wtf? something is definitely wrong here
qorudwls 1 week ago
whether he did it or not, you cannot put this kid in jail.
Tbagurdrumset94 1 week ago
i t7wru gqru,
theciton 1 week ago
Its a freaking 12 year old kid
I mean I definitely feel bad for the fiance and the unborn baby but life in prison?
if he was 17? or even 16? maybe..
but 12? somethings definitely wrong with the kid and its probably because of his dad
no responsible parent would leave a freaking shotgun in a childs reach like that
JYLEDH 1 week ago
poor kid and poor fiancé
NOF3AR1000 1 week ago
who cares......
locorider107 1 week ago
holly shit this kid's 14 now !!!
ScottyKillsHD 1 week ago
I want to know how the fuck a kid got his hands on a shotgun. Answer that one, America.
primalsledge 1 week ago 29
@primalsledge This is America we live in. He probably got it at the same place he buys his clothes.
jigsawpiece1989 1 week ago
you Americans aren't trusted to drink beer before you are 21 right ? Do any of you realize that your justice system is all fucked up ? 6 million of you are in prison already, I suppose putting another child in there for life won't matter.
PhilSanders8192 1 week ago
@PhilSanders8192 yeah they should release him, right?criminals are not bad, we should support them
fuck off
Yankeyay 1 week ago
Brenda Mooney shows her complete lack of intelligence and almost christian blindness when she comments at the end of the video. She is no expert and has no idea of the mentality of this child. If he had the mentality of an 18 year old surely he wouldn't have done it. It's not like when you hit 18 you start thinking about killing people. More mature people would think far enough to relise it's a stupid idea but with 12 years of life skills he his judgement wont be that of 18. FUCK, child=child.
iamvezm 1 week ago
the kid will live with this the rest of his life and will never forgive himself, sure he deserves some jail time and some punishment, but not life, not for a tragic mistake he made when he was young
Polaris1212 1 week ago
This is some Micheal Myers shit..
Istompkittenheads 1 week ago
The advertisement advertised CBS...
KatzRule45 1 week ago
That last cunt is so disgusting.
vanad1umbro 1 week ago
@vanad1umbro you don't need to say that tbh.
ibrahimsaad94 1 week ago
@vanad1umbro and stupid
apez456 1 week ago
He knew what he was doing, he shot her, now he needs to stay in prison for life.
Dallastown18 1 week ago
Sometimes, at night when I'm feeling lonely, I get naked, rub vaseline all over my body and then pretend I'm a slug in the kitchen.
CALLOFDUTYisBAD01 1 week ago
its not that hrd to fire a gun
thechn9nekrizzkaliko 1 week ago
This is just what needs to be done!! You people who are defending this killer are stupid idiots. Sick or not, that is not an excuse!! You kill and face the fucking consequences!! Let that person be 10, 15 ,18 or 20. I don't give a shit!! My country should have the same laws!!
Foxlandia 1 week ago
The father did it.
BigBearBabibear 1 week ago
WHAT? I dont give a fuck if its 12, 20 or even 5. That asshole took someones life, that persons is gone forever and no coming back, there are no seconds chance in life. That kid is a MURDER, and imagine what he is going to do as an adult. Who kills with no reason except for defending his life, MUST die.
AlanForsaken 1 week ago
@AlanForsaken His a child. He does not understand the full consequences of his actions. An adolescent's brain can't control impulses as an adult can. Also you want to show that killing is wrong by doing the exact same thing? That makes you a murder. So your philosophy is retarded since you then must die. And then the person who kill you must die. Etc. Etc. You are thinking so primitive and idiotic that its unbelieveable.Also the method is shown not to work at all.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me Dude, if a guy kills a FUCKING MURDERER, A FUCKING RAPIST, he is a HERO. What you suppose to do with that kind of people? Wait for them to rot in prison, i dont think so, you must make them feel fear in order to them to stop doing what they do. Educations doesnt work with that kind of people, the minds are corrupted, they arent going to change.
AlanForsaken 1 week ago
@AlanForsaken In countries with death punishment they have way higher crime rates than in countries were they don't and usually the countries with death punishment are not very civilized. China, countries in middleeast, USA. All very primitive countries in their own way and were people not care much for the poor and helpless. If you can't give life. Dont take life.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me AJAJAJAJAJJA, DUDE, you are more than welcome to come to Argentina whenever you want. Here there isnt death punishment, here if someone enters you house, kill every single person in your family and you kill him, YOU SPEND YOUR LIFE IN PRISON, there is no justice here, not even selfdefence. TRUST ME, here we all wish for death punishment.
AlanForsaken 1 week ago
huh mind of an 18 teen year old i hope she knows some kids at that age watch porn and already became 'dangerous'
GamingInTime 1 week ago
1:22 sounds like a tranny
EoinGlynn903 1 week ago
I must agree with the women at the end of the clip. "If a child uses a gun...he has the mind of 18 years old." You may think me brutal but I must ask what's adulthood? If you can provide the same understanding as adults like many young movie stars, should you be treated as adult?
tedwutang 1 week ago
@tedwutang you = stupid
mitchsmullet 1 week ago
did he go away?
maddenroy 1 week ago
this is why guns are supposed to be 100% illegal
FoodOnCrack 1 week ago
Wait what? Is this possible? In Denmark you need to be 15 to get in prison and 18 to be punished 100% as an adult. If you're under 18 you won't get as big a punishment and if your 15 and lets say kill a person he would not go to jail but insted to an instution were they will help him. WTF is USA this sick? Sending a 12 year old child to jail for life?
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me He shot a pregnant woman with a shotgun dipshit. People like you are the reason immigrants are swarming to Europe and taking over.
ozwick14 1 week ago
@ozwick14 So? his 12 old you fucking retard. A 12 year old does not shoot someone with a shot gun for no reason. He must either be sick in the head so he needs to get to somekind of clinic were they can help him or he is raised be psykoes. And how did he get a shotgun? In Denmark its illegal to even have a pistol lying around unless you have a license and in USA kids run around with shotguns? People like you are the reason why kids get killed by gun accident you fucked up psykopat.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me Ok I'll send some kids round your house to kill your fucking family and then lets see if you're still spinning the 'they're only kids lets help them' bullshit. He commited the crime now he has to pay the consequences
ozwick14 1 week ago
@ozwick14 Thats an idiotic example. They aren't going to a normal family you fucked up piece of shit. In Denmark we pay tax so that these kids can get help. They get to an institution. So yes. They are only kids. We help them. Because we are humans who care for children. We are not cruel psykopats and child murder supporters like you.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@Iamfreakingawes0me by the age of 12 you know the difference between right and wrong, i.e you would know that it would be wrong to steal something or Kill somebody, therefor i think, at the age of 12 he should be tried as a child but have the same sentencing rules as an adult.
TheSniperWelshCelt 1 week ago
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Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
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@TheSniperWelshCelt No you don't. By the age 12 you are still very much under the influence of your parents. You are not a grown up you are a kid. You don't know the consequenses of your actions. So either he must be sick in the head or raised like this.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@TheSniperWelshCelt I have researched a little and his age did mather luckily. The kids life is not taken away from him. One of the things why the judge made this decision is because a defense psychologist testified in January that an adolescent's brain can't control impulses as an adult would. So you are wrong.
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
@TheSniperWelshCelt And also if they already know whats right and wrong when they are 11 why shouldn't they be allowed to drink, have sex and vote when they are 11?
Iamfreakingawes0me 1 week ago
Wait so.. this kid muffled a SHOTGUN? didn't know that was possible, also with the amount of force that 12 gauge would have had.. he'd probably of missed/been blown off his feet.. so even if he did do it there'd be concrete evidence it was him, sounds like he was framed.
ThePlayfulDragon 1 week ago
@ThePlayfulDragon 12 Gauge? It said 20 gauge
ozwick14 1 week ago
@ozwick14 My bad if it said that, wasn't paying too much attention to that. Dx
ThePlayfulDragon 1 week ago
Where's the death penalty when you need it. Think of all the money taxpayers will have to spend on this little fuckhead. Hopefully he'll kill himself or get his asshole fucked by a 20 inch dick and die that way.
RapIsDeadly 1 week ago
this dose not make sence
lets say for a minit the kid did kill her and her child
he was only 11 when he did it hes obviusly sick in the head he needs help not life in prison
and it sounds fishy to me somthing dose not add up
and props for the dad leving the gun some where the kid could get it
primus1213 1 week ago 15
@primus1213 he doesnt need help he needs the death penalty
ViscOnWoW 1 week ago
@primus1213 Your spelling doesen't make sense.
ThePhumb 1 week ago
@primus1213 americans dont have gun cases
bignose12345666 1 week ago
@bignose12345666
thats a very untrue statement responsable adults handle and take care of there weapons and make sure if thay have children there some where thay dont have accses to them idk if your one of thoes countrys that think america is the devil well its not we have bad things just like any other country and if our goverment dose somthing bad its not the people just like if your goverment sucked dose not mean its your falt
primus1213 1 week ago
@primus1213 lets just say since the invention of firearms the world has got a lot worst
bignose12345666 1 week ago
@bignose12345666
lol you think if we still had swords etc things would be any different i mean sure there would be less deaths but things would still be bad
primus1213 1 week ago
@primus1213 Learn how to spell!!!
shanetoons1 1 week ago
@primus1213 I never thought of that! but its sooo true !
LaurGrl1999 1 week ago
@primus1213 Agreed. But you should really learn how to spell.
mikeycute00 1 week ago
@mikeycute00
cant fight my logic so you attack my spelling that's original ....
primus1213 1 week ago
@primus1213 I said I agreed. And these days nothing is original.
mikeycute00 1 week ago
+1 for guns in households
Dickdale666 1 week ago
I just saw an ad before the video... that's never happened before :o
immune85 1 week ago
how did i get here from TobyTurner
MullacEnak 1 week ago
dumb ass bitch at 1:22 why couldnt the kid of shot this dumb fuckin crack head!!!
DAFISHBRO1 2 weeks ago
UGLY ASS BITCH 1:22. Fucking stupid ass mofo too. Bet she would've changed her story and made her 21 year old gold digging boyfriend be charged as a juvenile.