Logic Studio 8 - Lesson1 Multitrack Drum Quantizing

[lecheblanca59]

I just got Logic and know like nothing!! How do you record the drums from your midi keyboard?? (I know it might be a sum question but Im so lost lol)

[TheAMVweekly]

watch this other tutorial, its good ! /watch?v=zb64sDdBahI

[MrImalmosthome]

Hey - I've done this and it does quantize and work great - But I now get annoying sounds whenever it goes from one track bit of audio to the next, little pop sounds, i'm sure you know what I mean. Any ideas?

[Pvtchrislee07]

hey bro i need your help i have the presets in the plugin settings folder but there not poppin up in the actual program along with ultrabeat please tell me u can help me

[JamieAesthetic]

Awesome man!! 1 problem though...every time i Split the track....it unhighlights everything...am i missing something? I am using Logic Pro 9

[tkealftonvaniladrv]

swallow... 1:44

[Buhzie15]

i prefer to get a drummer who can keep time. lol.

[quarkmuffin37]

None of this shit makes sense.

[lemobass]

Thanks a lot drew bro I will check it and let you know how it goes! One love man!

[lemobass]

Hey Drew bro, great stuff man but I could not see where you went to after highlighting the drums. Where did you go to group them?

Thanks

LemoLive

Producer

[drewpearsonmusic]

Hey @lemobass. Thanks for the look. After I highlight the drums I'm using the "cut by locators" command. The default quick key is either apple + \ or apple + /. I can't remember which one. Check your key command prefs if neither of those work and set your own quick key. The group box is found just above the automation box that says "Off", set all the drum tracks to the same number.

[Bonitabonitabonita]

cool.thanks.for.the.tutorial



[1m2o2e7]

how do i move multi vocal tracks as a whole from logic pro 9 to pro tools

[EmissaryMusic]

i have a few questions bro.

1.) WHAT'S THE "SPLIT BY LOCATORS" short cut? (the keys)

2.) How Do You Edit A Song Of 250 BPM with Double Pedal?

i tried using the same method but it just won't come out right.

thanks. hope to get a reply.

[pb0o6]

what kind of hardware do you need to do multitrack recording like this. I was thinking about gettin a xenyx 1202 mixer (a 12 channel mixer) and plugging it into a cheap interface via the audio out port on the mixer (with an rca cable) but i think that would record everything into logic as one track right?

[kennycash]

this was a helpful vid. I got 1 quick question. last night I was editing a drum part that needed a lot of work.I had like 10 takes of the drums recorded on top of one another. for each section of the song I took my favorite take. but it wouldnt allow me to crossfade unless I flattened each region. 1st is there a way to flatten multiple regions at the same time? 2nd how do you crossfade while trying to comp different regions together that contain multiple takes? do you have to flatten first?

[drewpearsonmusic]

@kennycash yes you must flatten first, if they are all part of the same edit group then they should flatten together. Because flattening automatically creates fades for you, you must delete them before you start this process (select all the drums then select none under fades in the inspector section).

[kennycash]

@drewpearsonmusic thanks drew another quick question after I tap to the transient and cut my marquee disappears then i have to highlite the track again is there a specific stting where the track will stay highlited

[Dannydrums90]

@kennycash did you figure this problem out? Im running into it now

[kennycash]

@Dannydrums90 nope never did

[YP95impact]

mal ekensin

[lordward69]

continued.....

Alone your version of "fill in gaps" seems not to be such a good solution compared to BD. However, I do like the fact that you don't have to wait for fades to be rendered. A very week point in PT. I'm not really a PT fan but BD is a great feature.

Thanks for this video!

DW

[lordward69]

Interesting, but how is this faster (or better) than BD in PT?

I must admit, I'd like to go to Logic but I never again want to use a DAW that only works on one platform. That being OSX.

I'd really like to see you post a video of you editing the drums of a short song, as you would in Logic, having little to no comments. Just to get a "real" realtime feel for your work flow. The way you explained it now I just can't believe that it's more efficient than PT.

[drewpearsonmusic]

@lordward69 This workflow isn't better or faster than BD, its about 80% as fast for me. But, its much faster than editing every single beat and allows me to keep the session in one program. This isn't one of the reasons to switch to logic, its a way to make the transition a little smoother.

As for the platform, I have never been in an LA studio that doesn't run on macs. But, none of those studio only had Logic. PT is the standard, and if you share session all the time just use PT.

drew

[drumplaya83]

@drewpearsonmusic hey i was wondering how you got your actual drums to be in separate tracks... each one on a different track in the first place

[ScarletDivamusic]

ok thank you LeForceVideos...another questions!!

Which is the shortcut with the keyboard tu cut the region?

and the marque tool auto-fix the start of the sound if I stay always with the same opening view?

thank a lot....

[ScarletDivamusic]

Sorry Drew..but I don't understand what keys I have to press to go from a sample to another with the marquee tool...In this video you don't use the mouse..

When I edit drums on Logic I use the scissor but your way is more simple and quick...if I understand well the marquee tool goes automatically from a sound to another..right?

thanks

Metz

[dillitex]

SKIP TO 7:28 to not hear all the useless BS

[IDEFYUK]

apple & / - just asks me if i want to go to a marker.. it doesn't actually cut the audio file... what am i doing wrong?

[kingskamz]

@IDEFYUK you might have to assign it? i had to on mine.

go to the preferences switch on the top left off logic and then go to key commands and its in there somewhere there is a tutorial on here but i cant remember the name sorry.

[kingskamz]

@IDEFYUK this video might help you it did me.

/watch?v=rjXl7USlm5s

[ganeshgunda]

hey drew thnks 4 everything. just a small query. wen i cut th regions, filled th gaps by streching them leftward and then apply eq powr fade, was wondering if the drag option on th right hand top was selected as x fade, wudnt it hd saved me all these elaborations? if not; why? saw in ur vdo in drag overlap was selected. wot is right to select, overlap or x fade?

[ganeshgunda]

another q. in some tuts saw three opts 4 tools. l click comand click and right click. in my window i get only 2, don get the right click. how 2 get the three clicks in tool selection? cheers.

[indrajem7vwh]

very good.. really good.. I'm new to sound engineering and most of the time learning things the hard way without guides. And, quantizing non-midi data is possible! wow, this is amazing.. thanks brother! I will try experimenting this myself and probably will have to bug you if i dun lose my way to doing it. :) thanks!

[peterlitvin2002]

Sweeet. Extremely helpful. Thank you Drew!

[felipego88]

thanks for the tip, it helped a lot!!

[Naturalflow]

whatever this dude is on i want some

[chessdude67]

I love Logic Express. I think you could have done this in a lot less time. Thanks for the lesson. Still nice of you to show how you do it.

peace.

[TheWALOS]

There is an alternative to simply compromising between the kick and hi-hat being in time. I would grab a region of audio where it is on time, when the drummer was playing the same thing later or earlier on the song, and then just paste it there. I mean, why not?

[Acustiman]

Drew,

Any regrets leaving ProTools now that 8 has MIDI & some VI's etc.?

-thx

[TheWALOS]

Logic is the single most versatile DAW out there today, easily. Pro Tools has become an industry buzz term, and it no longer has anything unique to offer.

[drmrfk16]

@Acustiman Even with PT 8 having more plug ins and better midi capabilities, i still think logic is better. just cuz Logic has better instruments and still a hell of a lot more plug ins to use. All of the loops that come with the new version of PT are on a seperate disc and you have to drop them in a session just to sample them. As with Logic, you just click it once to hear it already in the media tab of the session.

[chicostixx]

I use to use logic but, then i upgraded to adobe audition3 which is 100 times better than logic and, it dont have all the useless graphics. i think adobe has much better software than logic can produce.

[ddubav]

you wouldn't happen to work for adobe, would you? I mean- props to you, if you are making better mixes on audition, you are clearly a genius. on a related point, my friend just upgraded from a BMW to a Hundai. he says its 100 times better. You are awesome!

[chicostixx]

You know, its funny how much people make asses of themselves when somebody voices a comment. I use what works best for me and, thats all that matters.

[jezmcox]

legend!

[monkeymike05]

this was very helpful- the only thing I couldn't do was the final step- creating the fades-----it doesn't come up in my inspector for these audio files.....I think it's because I have several drum takes within the same track

[furr0ci0us]

@monkeymike05 flatten and merge. that should solve your problem.

[axxe21]

cool....ok..thanks

[axxe21]

Have you engineered for One Republic and Kid Cudi??

[drewpearsonmusic]

Never worked with Kid Cudi, but I did engineer a couple of songs off of One Republic's first album.

[yunggrizzo]

Can you record vocals on logic express 9? n how good is it?

[exhaustedfiles]

of course you can record vocals on logic express, it records to 24 bit wav's or aiff's, quality depends on the equipment you have, interface, mic's, cables, pop shields, the recording room etc so if you have good gear you will have a good recording

[Altadenamom1]

This was helpful but you skipped explaining how you got things to happen, like using "go to" but we can't see what you did to get something to happen, like how did you pull up the Quantize function on the Events list as one small example -- explain what you did at every step please--that's what we need help with, how did you find those options and get them to happen?

[drewpearsonmusic]

Click on Lists in the top left. then click the event tab. in the middle of the tab were it says "off (3840)" set that to the quantize duration

[zakonjezakon]

I was using this method successfully on Logic 8 until i upgraded to Logic 9...AARGGHH!!! I hate FLEX TOOL for multi-track drum editing, it SUCKS!!! Drew, do you know how i could continue using this method in Logic 9?

[MrNedRush]

great tip, dunno how i'd feel about doing it on a 6 minute drum take, but useful none the less. :)

[deszegheo]

*&^%$!

That's it! Good bye protools!

[hoooflac]

for some reason my tracks are not staying highlighted after my first cut? why is that?

[drewpearsonmusic]

don't click directly on the tracks. split by locators. there is an icon at the top.

[hoooflac]

ya i copied exactly what you did on the video but for some reason it un-highlights my tracks as soon as i use the "apple/ backslash" and i have to keep re-highlighting the tracks all over again for each split. i just upgraded to logic 9 maybe it's a weird thing in the new version?

[poopooisbad]

"Cut by locators" is "Apple/Backslash," not "forward slash."

[Gillettecavalcade]

You may want to create a dummy Kick track (just duplicate the track and the audio regions, then convert those regions into a new audio file). Then raise the gain (destructively in the sample editor) of the duplicate to accentuate the transients.

Before I done it that way I couldn't get it exactly on the kick. Drew, do you think this way is the best way to quantize drums? I had a look at your other tut, ....is there an advantage or is it just personal preference?

Cheers mate.

[allweareiscrazy]

You need 8.0.2 for this to work! Thanks for the tutorial!

[trackstart100]

Hey man i need a few answers, First off im starting a home studio and I need some advise . I want to get a mpc to make my beats is that a good idea and if i was to get logic what would I do with it. Sorry if its a stupid question , can i make great music with just my mpc midi controller and turntable with samples .

[drewpearsonmusic]

I have heard amazing music recorded with just a laptop mic... so yes you can make great music just an mpc and turntables. If you were to integrate logic into your setup, you would probably use the mpc to send midi to logic's sequencer so you could use all of logics midi editing capability and play its instruments. Or if you wanted the sounds on your mpc you could send midi back to the mpc and record the audio output back into logic. Lots of videos on how to do this. Search "logic mpc".

[neiljohnstonmusic]

Thanks for this Drew, very helpful.

Neil.

[jonescrusher1]

Good effort, but your commentary drifts a little, a bit hard to follow, thanks though

[ohheyandrew]

Great tutorial. I don't see the fade options in my inspector menu. I'm using Logic 8.0.2 and have tried everything to find out how to do an equal power fade with no luck.

[drewpearsonmusic]

make sure you don't have the last region selected when you try and do the fade from the inspector. you can't equal power fade a region that doesn't have anything after it. also make sure all the regions are touching.

[idugcoal]

drew, great video my friend. thank you for providing such a wonderful resource. your hard work is much appreciated.

[brand59]

Sorry but thi is hard to follow as your screen record frame rate is like 1 frame a second - so no idea how to follow this as the mouse appears and disappears with no way to follow it.

[drewpearsonmusic]

Don't apologize. Try watching it with audio. I explain what I'm doing as I go along.

[Zephnor]

Is it possible to load a song and mixing it?

[miniroll32]

It'd be a lot quicker to find a better drummer....

[drewpearsonmusic]

actually its quite a bit harder to find a drummer that can lock to a click.

[Danielc412]

It is impossible to cut by the marquee position in logic,(which is a common complaint of many logic users) so i can't at all understand how you have managed to do it. It would be very nice if you responded to one of the many people who have encountered this exact problem. Cheers.

[drewpearsonmusic]

I assure you it is not impossible. I have responded to this question many times, but I can't explain it better in a 500 character comment than I can in the video. All I am using is the cut by locators quick key. I'm not sure why it doesn't work for some people. Perhaps a bug or something. I am using the most recent version of logic on leopard and it still works fine for me. I'm sorry I can't be or more help, but I'm an audio engineer not a software engineer :(

[FleshTorturer]

Hi

I believe this was a bug in the initial release but was fixed in either the .01 or .02 update. If you haven't updated that could be the issue.

[LogicProTuts]

Danielc412, maybe I can explain to you that. First, you must assign a Key Command to do it.

Open Preferences > Key Commands. Type "by locator" in the search field. Select "Split Regions/Events by locators...", active "Learn by Key Label" button and type Alt+Shift+X. Well, now you have assigned a new Key Command to split a track. Use Marquee Tools like in the video and when you are sure to split in that point the track, use the Key Command assigned.

I hope to help you with this.

Enjoy!

[JAMTHEMANX]

try hitting the split by locaters icon at the top in the tab where inspector is for the first time then apple \ wrks for rest ....madness..

[intrepgun]

that drum opening sounds kinda like the funky cold medina. :)

[sirbotty]

great vid dude. Keep up the good work.

[takafinir]

why u dont use melodyne to? easier i think

[drewpearsonmusic]

this is a good question and brings up one of an engineers biggest problems recording drums. PHASE ISSUES!!! (ooooooooooo) If you are editing multiple tracks that are all bleeding into each other, as with a live drum kit, when you make an edit to one track, you must make the exact same edit to all the tracks. Otherwise the bleed from the other mics can create crazy phase issues. Melodyne moves each track individually with no regard the others (last time i checked that is), making it unusable.

[drewpearsonmusic]

Melodyne also uses time stretching, which is nice sometimes but alot of engineers don't like what it does to the sound. If this has changed in the latest release then GREAT. I love melodyne. Its great if there is only a mono or stereo track.

[CULTUREOFMUSIK]

i just dont like to have everything stacked on top of each other on 1 screen.. I use 2 monitors for all my recordings..

thnx for the vid by the way ..!

culture

[CULTUREOFMUSIK]

hey can you use logic studio 8 on 2 monitors(screens)

so i can have a split view of what im recording.(example put my track im recording on the left screen/monitor and my eq;s or plugins on the right screen/monitor.)

thnx !!

stay easy

culture

[drewpearsonmusic]

Yes. Eq's and plugins are easy. just double click on the ones you want and drag them over. You can also have different windows on different screens. Example: the arrange window on the left and mix window on the right. Just select Window->mix window from the menu at the top. Logic also has screensets, which means you can set where certian windows and plugins are on the screen, and have all the windows return to that setting if they get moved around. I might do a video on this feature.

drew

[pflying]

Very useful, thanks... but please help me: I'm using Logic Express 8.0.0 on a 10.5.4 Mac OSX and everything works fine in the process, up to the marquee selection. Then I hit cmd\ or I click on menu Cut by Locators command and NOTHING happens....why? please help....

[muzicphiles]

hi... how do you cut a stereo file in logic ?you have a mono view only right ?

[nerdcunt69]

you can create a track in either mono or stereo.

[PharrellShaymar]

check out my song, i made them all on logic

[VanMocen]

very informative, but i hate your throat swallowing lol

[Mike4363]

Hey is the studeo for free

[rarebookroom]

my drums tracks have a lot of other smalldetails going on whihc slow the process down as Logic hunts for transients. can I hide these other tracks (and will they still be grouped?), or only use the kick snare transients as my reference?

[lumin750]

melodyne baybeee

[drewpearsonmusic]

Melodyne is an awesome program. I use it all the time, and I'm a huge fan. But for quantizing drums it wont work. Melodyne still lacks a grouping function to allow the exact same edits to be made to multiple tracks. Melodyne will look at and adjust each drum mic individually instead of as a group and this causes phasing issues with a multiple miced drum kit. If your drums are mono or stereo though, Melodyne works great!

[guuspie]

I have the same problem as psudologic...

"....When ever I reach a Transient and use the apple+forward slash key command, the region wont split until I manually clicked the selected region and I've got to do that each time I need to split a region(This is too tedious).I can see you just zipping through the splitting process, so I am missing some thing important here.

I am new to logic so any info would be great."

Can someone clear out this issue?

[psudologic]

Hi guuspie, updating Logic to the latest version did the trick for me... I had that problem resolved when I updated to 8.0.2.

now I have other problems.... haha  need to constantly use the group clutch command to enable/disable the group when detecting and slicing multitrack drums..takes much longer, But it works.. thats more important.

Cheers..

[guuspie]

It's trough that I have a previous version. I have Logic 8.0.0...

[ledwatch]

are you talking through a telephone?

[antipixel]

rather than outright switching to logic did you not consider rewire?

[drewpearsonmusic]

Although Protools and Logic can both "host" rewire, neither can "slave" through rewire. Both programs it seems are too stubborn to let another lead. You can sync them through the IAC buss, but they must use different audio interfaces (when protools is using the digidesign interface core audio doesn't have access to it).

I should also mention that I "switched" to writing with logic, but I still use protools when I engineer others so their sessions will be compatible every studio.

Thanks

drew

[cafecivet]

Do you do most of your editing in Pro Tools? I'd agree that from a music creation standpoint, Logic makes me happier, but PTs would make these kinds of tasks sooo much easier. I'm thinking between the 2, you'd have things pretty well covered.

[psudologic]

Hey Drew, Great video

really helped me a lot

Just one question though.When ever I reach a Transient and use the apple+forward slash key command, the region wont split until I manually clicked the selected region and I've got to do that each time I need to split a region(This is too tedious).I can see you just zipping through the splitting process, so I am missing some thing important here.

I am new to logic so any info would be great.

Seriously appreciate you effort.

Cheers.

[guuspie]

I have got the same problem.

Is this isseu cleared out yet?

[AnthonyCatacoli]

drew, this tutorial is awesome... thanks so much...

I wanted to ask you for some advice on drum aligning.. what do I do when I have lots of transients in my drum recording. (for example, a 13mic recording with OH's and Room mics?)

[drewpearsonmusic]

Good question,

The first thing I would do is not highlight anything that is not a close mic with the marquee tool. So no rooms OH or anything ambient. Also, if you have to mics on a drum only highlight the beater side mic. This will make the cutting go faster as the tab to transient function will make less stops.

Next make your cuts on the close mic of the current beat. ie if the drummer hits the kick in a drum pattern make your cut from the kick-in transient.

Hope this helps

drew

[agillesp123]

Great tutorial, but this method gave me a bit of trouble on a project because the 'Split By Locators' command splits all tracks on the arrange, not just the grouped ones. So if you have a more complicated project than the one in the video (i.e. with tracks other than the ones you're editing), you have to pack your grouped tracks into a folder and use the marquee->transient->split by locators workflow there.

Otherwise, you'll cut a bunch of tracks you didn't mean to.

[dahlia2888]

infact, do you have any real baisic videos as like and intro to the program? also would i get anything out of using the quantize feature with acoustic guitars or shuld i just try and get it right the first time.

[drewpearsonmusic]

No basic videos yet, but SFLogicninja has some great basic videos. You always want to get it right the first time, but if you are strapped for time and need to get something done, you can use the quantize engine in the Audio Editor. Double click on the audio, Save a backup (file > save backup), then factory > quantize engine. Start with the guitar preset and tweak from there.

[dahlia2888]

Thanks alot man

[jdkeates]

I Use the time enhance tool. it works great. When you make an audio track go to the first effect box thing (THE FIRST ONE) and go to specilized and time enhance

[dahlia2888]

good video

[phatpat100]

This video just goes to show Pro Tools is far superior for editing audio, although I think most people agree Logic is better for midi and plug-ins.

[drewpearsonmusic]

I still use pro tools when I am engineering bands and artists, but when I am writing I have to have Logic. Its not just midi, logic has its own set of workflows that make it easier to find sounds and start recording. In fact beat detective is the only protools function I missed while learning Logic.

[FLCProductions]

you used ishowu?

[drewpearsonmusic]

Yeah, I have trouble using sunflower to record my system audio though. I have to use an external mixer to record system audio along with voice.

[FLCProductions]

oh yeah i use i show you but im going to get screenflow

it lets you edit the video in the system so yah dont have to edit in a difrent

i also think it lets you export with "youtube settings"

but i think it cost like 100 dollers and ishowu only cost like 20 or 30 bucks

[JakobHaq]

Great video!

It really helped me out with my bad drummer xD

[GawdMachine]

Fantastic, both of you guys rock!!!

[SFLogicNinja]

Very well done. You rock my sox. Awesome vid!

Have a great one, and coffee is on me when you hit the city. Or drinks, your choice!

*bows*

[drewpearsonmusic]

Wow thanks! Thats a high complement coming from the Logic sensei. I'm going to say drinks for sure. ha

[SFLogicNinja]

Hay Drew!!!!!!

You rock my sox. Great job, and thanks a ton for the shout!

Let's get some coffee sometime. I was hoping to do this video subject but never tackled it. Great job. Great!

*bows*

[KILBOYUN]

thanx

[soundeng1]

Thanks! Very Cool!

[Farout5150]

Awesome.

Very cool video.

Been wanting to see how others do this.

Keep up the good work.