Well I agree with Wlad winning -- but the size thing mentioned in the video is trivial -- I mean you can take something away from any great fighter and they might not be great anymore -- what would Ali be like if he was slow - but its trivial-- part of the reason they fight like they do is because the trainers they had taught them a style BASED on their size. So obviously if you take away their size their current boxing technique wouldnt be appropriate---
@klitschkobrosfan I agree 100%. Thats why guys like Dimitrenko or Ray Austin or Tony Thompson aren't champions but Klitschkos are. Skills guys, skills.
so many smart guys think that next Challenger is the man who can beat vladimir,and when vlad put them to sleep,then is silence..... this time will be no difference...all of that is because you dont see the caliber of that guy,or you dont want to see....and you are jealous-you want American champion, and you want that belts return to states ..but it will plenty of water flow in the rivers until that day ...you will see
what a hell do u mean by ring magazine's title belt matters the most?? u mean wbo wbc ibf ibo internationally recognized organizations are less fair powerful or influential... just because ring magazine only covers well boxing in the united states doesnt means its the most legit boy.... wow no wonder they call americans stupid and ignorant
your argument about Klitchko size is silly not because its not an advantage to them but because its like saying if Muhamed Ali did not have his speed he would just be an average fighter. Small sized, slow punching heavyweight even with his amazing skills would never become ATG.
im going for a upset ..i think if eddie chambers shows up in shape and can box wladimir he has a very good chance... eddie is a VERY good boxer.. he beat sam peter easy with a JAB..
i dont agree with ya about the Klitschkos being good because they just tall Alexander Dimitrenko got smashed by chambers and hes 6.7 ft Klitschkos train hard and are skilled boxers trust me
chambers has also demonstrated the ability 2 stick 2 a game plan..having said all that,i think chambers safety 1st nature will be his undoing against klitschko- when ur 5 or 6 inches shorter than ur opponent,ur gonna have2 take risks 2 get in2 punching range, & that is where i think chambers will fall short, he just wont take enough risks.
Klitschko will win on points, unless chambers takes some risks, IF he does, he has a good chance of victory..its gonna be a real interestin fight
klitschko wont ko him, klitschko relies on his opponents either coming to him in straight lines, or standing right infront of him to ko them...chambers wont do that...he'll give klitschko alot of angles & movement..chambers has a very tight defense- possibly the best defense in the division next 2 james toney..i also think chambers DOES hav the power 2 hurt klitschko, dont be fooled by his low ko ratio, that is more due 2 the fact he's usualy a safety 1st type of fighter,he does hav sum power
people say that wladimer klitschko has a suspect chin but the fact that he got nailed 3 times by a brutal puncher like peter and still manages to get up and win the fight. wladimer might not have the best chin but he can take a good punch. it was stamina actually that gave him a problem 4 years ago because he would start out so fast. know i belife hes the most dominant boxer out their. tight defense isn't always good. because you can't always see what's comming at you,chagaev did not.
chagaev is robotic, chambers is much much slicker- more like a young james toney, he can see just fine with his defense, he knows when 2 hold his hands high at the right time, he's very slick & smart in the ring, a much better fighter than chagaev
as far as wlad goes, vitali is better than him! vitali went toe 2 toe with lennox lewis, wlad got ko'd by purity sanders & brewster...& his knock downs against peter were not even from clean flush shots, his chin is very suspect
@HatmanTV ya you are right the knockdowns vs Sanders werent from clean flush shots to the chin they were rabbit punches behind the back which are technically illegal and thats why he went down-anybody would have that night-thats back when Peter could move quick on his feet and was aggressive and sloppy-a much better style -- the 2 fights with James Toney where he supposedely "improved his skills" actually imo ruined Peter as a fighter and his chin was ruined the night Wlad popped him all night.
american media is hatting on the klitschkos so much,why wouldn't they have talent,educated and kick assssss. thats why they act like their are no good heavyweight. belive me their are they just not "americans".
Nonsens, Jack Johnson, Holmes, Lewis and other great heavyweights where just as big. The klitschko's arn't any bigger. The thing is bigger guys most of the time are slower the klitschko's arn't because of there discipline, physical in perfect shape and mentally very strong. Primo Carnera that guy whas big. Every true dominant heavyweight has so his qaulity's, with Mohammed Ali most of it whas his style of boxing his movement, speed and so on. Why are most americans so against the klitschko's??
As for your comment on Wladimir and Vitali not being as good if they were smaller, I think that's trivial. It's a similar argument in comparing a athlete of this generation to one of the past. The situation is paradoxical. The Klitschko's adopted the style they have because of their size -- it would be ridiculous to assume that in another situation where they are smaller they would take on the same style-- maybe they would have taken on a style similar to Eddie Chambers and be great at it--
everything is pure speculate bro... all these things are debate-able having said that, i put this video up because these 2 MUST meet! chambers is the WBO mandatory for crying out loud! lol
Ya its speculation thats what I'm saying --- anyway ya they should meet but you never know-- actually Alexander Dimitrenko was already set as the WBO mandatory for Klitschko but lost in a tune up fight to Chambers -- that's why Chambers is not mandatory- so you never know if Chambers takes a tune-up and loses there could be a new one again nothing is set in stone yet
wbo/ibf/ibo heavyweight titles WOULD be on the line-- the fight isn't set yet though -- they are talking about it potentially happening in the beginning of 2010
yeah hey man... I think he'll have trouble against WK also. However I think it will be an entertaining fight because Eddie is the only elite HW who boxes that way. Its really special. I think Eddie has just as good a chance as anyone else. Maybe he can surprise everyone. His style I think is better for getting past the jab than most other fighters. Just my spontanious thoughts. Chambers rocket Povetkin real good fyi. Several times.
Good call !!! Who can beat these Klitschkos...
lemsby 2 years ago
i hope chambers pulls the upset
xxmcneilxx 2 years ago
Wladimir klitschko 6ft 6 ( 1.98 m )
Eddie Chambers 6ft 1 ( 1.85 m )
Mohammed Ali 6ft 3 ( 1.91 )
Joe frazier 5ft 11.5 ( 1.82 )
Size doesn't just matter.
Wladimir klitschko all the way.......peace
Dragonwolverine 2 years ago
Well I agree with Wlad winning -- but the size thing mentioned in the video is trivial -- I mean you can take something away from any great fighter and they might not be great anymore -- what would Ali be like if he was slow - but its trivial-- part of the reason they fight like they do is because the trainers they had taught them a style BASED on their size. So obviously if you take away their size their current boxing technique wouldnt be appropriate---
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
@klitschkobrosfan I agree 100%. Thats why guys like Dimitrenko or Ray Austin or Tony Thompson aren't champions but Klitschkos are. Skills guys, skills.
ablonstein 2 years ago
@ablonstein -- exactly
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
so many smart guys think that next Challenger is the man who can beat vladimir,and when vlad put them to sleep,then is silence..... this time will be no difference...all of that is because you dont see the caliber of that guy,or you dont want to see....and you are jealous-you want American champion, and you want that belts return to states ..but it will plenty of water flow in the rivers until that day ...you will see
sinkosav 2 years ago 4
right on, ko by wlad
chucknchar 2 years ago 2
what a hell do u mean by ring magazine's title belt matters the most?? u mean wbo wbc ibf ibo internationally recognized organizations are less fair powerful or influential... just because ring magazine only covers well boxing in the united states doesnt means its the most legit boy.... wow no wonder they call americans stupid and ignorant
forexistentialistics 2 years ago
your argument about Klitchko size is silly not because its not an advantage to them but because its like saying if Muhamed Ali did not have his speed he would just be an average fighter. Small sized, slow punching heavyweight even with his amazing skills would never become ATG.
vova12 2 years ago
i want eddie chambers to win...i am rooting for him...please god let eddie win lol
thegoldenhero 2 years ago
im going for a upset ..i think if eddie chambers shows up in shape and can box wladimir he has a very good chance... eddie is a VERY good boxer.. he beat sam peter easy with a JAB..
preoxwhygen2007 2 years ago
i dont agree with ya about the Klitschkos being good because they just tall Alexander Dimitrenko got smashed by chambers and hes 6.7 ft Klitschkos train hard and are skilled boxers trust me
DarthMuse 2 years ago 2
chambers has also demonstrated the ability 2 stick 2 a game plan..having said all that,i think chambers safety 1st nature will be his undoing against klitschko- when ur 5 or 6 inches shorter than ur opponent,ur gonna have2 take risks 2 get in2 punching range, & that is where i think chambers will fall short, he just wont take enough risks.
Klitschko will win on points, unless chambers takes some risks, IF he does, he has a good chance of victory..its gonna be a real interestin fight
HatmanTV 2 years ago
klitschko wont ko him, klitschko relies on his opponents either coming to him in straight lines, or standing right infront of him to ko them...chambers wont do that...he'll give klitschko alot of angles & movement..chambers has a very tight defense- possibly the best defense in the division next 2 james toney..i also think chambers DOES hav the power 2 hurt klitschko, dont be fooled by his low ko ratio, that is more due 2 the fact he's usualy a safety 1st type of fighter,he does hav sum power
HatmanTV 2 years ago
people say that wladimer klitschko has a suspect chin but the fact that he got nailed 3 times by a brutal puncher like peter and still manages to get up and win the fight. wladimer might not have the best chin but he can take a good punch. it was stamina actually that gave him a problem 4 years ago because he would start out so fast. know i belife hes the most dominant boxer out their. tight defense isn't always good. because you can't always see what's comming at you,chagaev did not.
tryubochka2008 2 years ago
chagaev is robotic, chambers is much much slicker- more like a young james toney, he can see just fine with his defense, he knows when 2 hold his hands high at the right time, he's very slick & smart in the ring, a much better fighter than chagaev
as far as wlad goes, vitali is better than him! vitali went toe 2 toe with lennox lewis, wlad got ko'd by purity sanders & brewster...& his knock downs against peter were not even from clean flush shots, his chin is very suspect
HatmanTV 2 years ago
@HatmanTV ya you are right the knockdowns vs Sanders werent from clean flush shots to the chin they were rabbit punches behind the back which are technically illegal and thats why he went down-anybody would have that night-thats back when Peter could move quick on his feet and was aggressive and sloppy-a much better style -- the 2 fights with James Toney where he supposedely "improved his skills" actually imo ruined Peter as a fighter and his chin was ruined the night Wlad popped him all night.
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
@klitschkobrosfan-- correction you said Peter I meant Peter as well not Sanders - -Sanders was a clean punching
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
american media is hatting on the klitschkos so much,why wouldn't they have talent,educated and kick assssss. thats why they act like their are no good heavyweight. belive me their are they just not "americans".
michaelak47 2 years ago
Nonsens, Jack Johnson, Holmes, Lewis and other great heavyweights where just as big. The klitschko's arn't any bigger. The thing is bigger guys most of the time are slower the klitschko's arn't because of there discipline, physical in perfect shape and mentally very strong. Primo Carnera that guy whas big. Every true dominant heavyweight has so his qaulity's, with Mohammed Ali most of it whas his style of boxing his movement, speed and so on. Why are most americans so against the klitschko's??
Dragonwolverine 2 years ago
Nonsense
Dragonwolverine 2 years ago
As for your comment on Wladimir and Vitali not being as good if they were smaller, I think that's trivial. It's a similar argument in comparing a athlete of this generation to one of the past. The situation is paradoxical. The Klitschko's adopted the style they have because of their size -- it would be ridiculous to assume that in another situation where they are smaller they would take on the same style-- maybe they would have taken on a style similar to Eddie Chambers and be great at it--
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
everything is pure speculate bro... all these things are debate-able having said that, i put this video up because these 2 MUST meet! chambers is the WBO mandatory for crying out loud! lol
B0xingKn0wledge 2 years ago
Ya its speculation thats what I'm saying --- anyway ya they should meet but you never know-- actually Alexander Dimitrenko was already set as the WBO mandatory for Klitschko but lost in a tune up fight to Chambers -- that's why Chambers is not mandatory- so you never know if Chambers takes a tune-up and loses there could be a new one again nothing is set in stone yet
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
correction-- is *now mandatory
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
wbo/ibf/ibo heavyweight titles WOULD be on the line-- the fight isn't set yet though -- they are talking about it potentially happening in the beginning of 2010
klitschkobrosfan 2 years ago
yeah hey man... I think he'll have trouble against WK also. However I think it will be an entertaining fight because Eddie is the only elite HW who boxes that way. Its really special. I think Eddie has just as good a chance as anyone else. Maybe he can surprise everyone. His style I think is better for getting past the jab than most other fighters. Just my spontanious thoughts. Chambers rocket Povetkin real good fyi. Several times.
matsh79 2 years ago