But Lincoln would NEVER consider being part of this "trial". Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, jailed his political opponents and tried to find the most demoralizing and human life destroying weapons he could afford.
He would have put the people who made this video in jail and would consider Bush weak for putting up with all the crap.
One of the things that is REALLY STUPID about this video is its portrayal of Lincoln. He suspended Habeus Corpus, developed horrific weapons of destruction and imprisoned his political enemies who called for his impeachment.
He would have considered Bush somewhat weak and the people who did this video, traitors or enemies.
Now, for all that praise George W. Bush's academic accomplishments... Even if his daddy wasn't president then, he came from a very rich family, full of politicians. It does make sense. Let's get some facts here, from wikipedia:
"To the C students, I say, 'You too can be president of the United States,"' Bush said at the 300th commencement of Yale University.
Or: "He was a C student, scoring 77% (with no As and one D, in astronomy) with a grade point average of 2.35 out of a possible 4.00. Bush has joked that he was known more for his social life than for his grades."
Or: "At the height of the Vietnam War, Bush was accepted into the Texas Air National Guard in May 1968, after scoring the lowest acceptable passing grade on the pilot's written aptitude test."
You're intriguing in your POV jeffbatt2000. Thank you for coming back to debate the value of "this garbage" from your superior position. You said it best of all when you said you "can't believe they found actors to participate in something like this.." I think the key is a limit to your ability for abstract, non-concrete thinking. And if you consider Obama a community organizer then good cuz one is needed after 8 years of Bush disorganizing our community. And please define elitist.
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The only thing illustrated here is Orwellian propaganda and Stalinesque show trials...these jackasses are a parody of themselves...they portray themselves for the fools they are.
"The media rolls over?"...Are you kidding me?...The media has made it their main mission to do everything and anything the Democrat party fabricates...the main mission has been destroying Bush and creating division in America.
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Typical liberal swine. Not an ounce of truth...This video is a perfect example of the effects of systematic brainwashing by the liberal propaganda machine...fiction.
There once was a time when Hollywood had honor, a long long long long time ago...Now Hollywood is full of neo-communists whose main objective is to get stinking filthy rich producing celluloid crap.
funwith: "LOL...stinking filthy rich? off of a youtube video?"
Obviously not yourself. But your neo-communist rat comrades who have an ideological stranglehold on Hollywood...Yes, obviously your work is low-level slime, but you are simply a byproduct of the high-level agit-prop that infests Hollyweird and the uber-rich hypocrites who dominate it.
I have an idea...Why don't you do a piece on Bill Clinton having his National Security Adviser going into the National Archive chambers and shoving top-secret (9/11 related) documents down his pants and in his socks (which REALLY happened)...It would be really funny; and then you can have Clinton's cronies sitting in judgement of Bush and accusing him of war crimes!!!...lol...but that doesn't fit in with your agenda does it?
You should also do a piece with Muslims celebrating the fact that the Democrats use terrorist bombings to undermine the war...You can make the Democrats and the terrorists friends in their war against Bush...
Hey, who funds you scumbags?...I know liberal scum fund that guy who puts up the "Obey" commie posters.
People like you are the scum who have divided this nation for the last 7.5 years...It is scumbags like you that have created the hate, fomented distrust in America, and have made success liberating Iraq near impossible.
And YOU are the reason people all over the world STOPPED purchasing US made goods, so that we could bankrupt your economy, thus saving the lives of children being shot in the back by your 'liberating' soldiers.
Hope the value of your house skyrockets with your attitudes - cause if you can spout shit like that, you MUST be living in a fantasy world.
silence: "And YOU are the reason people all over the world STOPPED purchasing US made goods"
You brainwashed moron...go to Santa Monica's third-street promenade, or any tourist spot, and you will see Europeans, etc., buying our crap like a dehydrated man takes a drink...where do you people get this shit you regurgitate?
When are you liberal scumbags going to pull out of the American hell-holes?...Whereever a Democrat rules the crime rates are high, the murder rates are out of control.
silencer: "when did you Americans start letting people like this have computer access?"
Sorry, we haven't totally descended into liberal fascism yet...We are still a relatively free country...it has been a long time since the liberals put Japanese women and children in concentration camps...it has been a long time since the Democrats wire-tapped Martin Luther King, Jr.
silencer: "You keep telling yourself that at the gas pump."
Jackass...you do know we get our gas from you, right?...We subsidize your economy (pharmaceuticals/military protection), but you just spit in our face.
silencer: "thus saving the lives of children being shot in the back by your 'liberating' soldiers."
Perhaps if you believed the truth (like Saddam's brutal and barbaric reign of terror, or Al Qaeda's slaughter of fellow muslims), you would be half-way down the path of extricating your head from your ass...WTF is wrong with you people?...You are fucking deranged hate filled liberals.
I really feel electric chair is not necessary -- but more fitting is to be doing the hard labor on contruction crew for the next 20 years -- rebuilding Louisiana, Iraq, Afghanistan
Nothing but a band of criminals! America is in trouble! "I grieve for my country when I reflect that God is just and God's Justice will not sleep forever!" Thomas Jefferson
"I just don't get why it's supposed to be funny. Is Petraeus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?"
Before last summer, in over 30 years of highly decorated military service, Petraeus has never, ever had his integrity questioned. Who are you to call it into question? Have you ever risked your life for your country?
Bush graduated from Yale, got an MBA from Harvard, and can fly a fighter jet. Can you do any of that? Then doesn't that make you "dumber" than him?
When has there been any accounts of Cheney killing a kiity cat? There hasn't? So why is that funny?
Well, I truly appreciate his service to our freedom and respect the service of our military. I have no children myself but have several nieces and nephews. 2 of my nephews chose to join the military (one Army one Marines). One served honorably over there and the other goes to marine training in the coming months. So as for the General his service is not in question in the video. It's the fact that he became a mouth piece for the Bush administration. That's all that's shown in the video.
As for Mr. Bush and his education. Education is not an indication of intelligence, just training. Bush applies his lessons horribly in my opinion and has been a horrible leader for his terms as President. As for flying a fighter jet I refer to education again. He's very well trained and many fighter jet pilots are very intelligent people with excellent judgment. Mr. Bush doesn't seem to be one of those with good judgement. As for the cat...Are you seriously taking that literally?
Ran out of space...Allow me to explain. The cat, as stated in the video, represents an attack on freedom. i.e. Illegal wiretapping (which the freakin' dems gave a pass to this week and made it RETROACTIVE!), habeus corpus. It's parody and many of the ideas are abstract metaphors for something else.
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It has always mystified me. there's a great book called "Why America can't kick it's addiction to War" I highly recommend. The economic forces at work w/in the war system are firmly entrenched in our political/economic culture. As long as young men & women keep signing up to fight & thre's money to be made, it will never go away. Those who have an agreement for war should be shipped to an island, have one last huge go at it and kill each other so the rest of us can live in peace.
I get the points being made. I just don't get whay it's supposed to be funny. Is Patreus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?
Well I'm not about to try and explain the comedy. If you don't get it you don't get it. As for your other questions "Is Patreus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?" What you think? (Completely rhetorical question so no need to answer anyone but yourself, my friend.) Again thanks for watching and for the correspondence.
Well, don't blindly send this video to people, then. You have to have ready-made inclinations as to the personalities of these people to believe this is funny. It's just that the facts make me not like this. Patreus is a highly decorated officer who has never had his patriotism or credentials questioned before last summer. Bush graduated from Yale, has an MBA from Harvard, and can fly a fighter jet, doesn't sound dumb to me. And I just have no reason to believe Cheney kills kittens. Sorry...
I love how people like you never argue with facts. You insult me, accuse me of things of which you have no proof, and try to make me look like a fool. I wish that you were confident enough in yourself to not have to accuse me of sucking penises. I forgive you for being so rude and crass with me.
Oh, so I should be happy you called me a cock-sucker. Thank you. Listen, I'm sorry, I don't come from the point of view that Bush is stupid (Yale degree, Harvard MBA, can fly a jet), Petreaus is a robot (over 30 years of unquestioned, exemplary, decorated service) or that Cheney is evil (never killed a kitty, or any other small animal by slamming it on a table).
The scull and bones mob , pretty much get their degrees just 4 signing up ,i haven't heard of any thesis Bush has authored , have you ? I doubt very much that Bush ever got a Military jet fighter pilots licence .He probably only got to handle the controls while in the front cockpit (pilot in rear).
Also Bush is illiterate .
As 4 Cheney ,he probably slams small animals after he has shot and wounded them first and if anybody doesn't like it they get shot in the friggin face .
Oh, OK. Yale and Harvard, 2 of the most prestigious universities on Planet Earth, just give diplomas away. Thank you for informing me of that. And I'm glad you just "know" Bush can't fly a jet. That was all made up. You just don't "feel" like he got it. OK. I guess you're not interested in facts. You just "know" things about Bush. Wow. And Cheney is just plain evil. He accidentally shot his friend and to you it's because his friend saw him killing a small animal by shaking it. How old are you?
I've got a play list on Bush ,i know enough ,his reputation includes cocaine and alcohol abuse and he can't even read and write .He always just says what he is told to say through his ear piece .Every time he does speak freely he always says the dumbest most stupid comments .By the way Michael Moore knows Dubya very well , he was a neighbour ,he'll tell you ,Bush is illiterate .pilot ? Yeah right !!
First of all, know one has ever come forward wiht any accusations on Bush using cocaine. However, Obama admitted using cocaine and marijauna in his own book. He said it himself in the audio version. So, I guess you're for McCain, then? Second, where the hell did you come up with Moore being neighbors with Bush? Third of all, do you really think an illiterate person could graduate from 2 Ivy League Schools? And lastly, Bush flew F-103 jets in the National Guard and rated in the top 10% pilots
I love your facts include his "reputation". That reputation was given to him by those who hate him. You have ZERO (0) proof that he did cocaine. NONE, WHATSOEVER. Yet you continue to say it. So, does using cocaine disqualify Obama from being President, then? He has admitted to it in his own words. Why is that OK? Plus, have you ever seen Obama speak without a teleprompter? He doesn't know what he's talking about. Why do you think he's afraid to do unscripted townhall debates with McCain?
Uh, Bush went to Yale and Harvard in the late 60's, early 70's. Bush Sr. was not President yet or worth millions. Plus, I hate calling names on this site like so many people like you do, but to say "6 out of 7 things Bush says are a lie" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone, anywhere say. I'm not even getting into how logistically that's just impossible and unquantifiable, almost every example you site about him are opinions, not lies. Give me one lie, just one.
It is not worth going through life as full of hatred as you have. You should focus all the energy you put at irrational hatred for this one man on something positive. You have control of your life. You don't have to waste your time hating another country's President...
Oh, OK. So your "gut instinct" trumps facts. All right, I guess you won the conversation. Enjoy despising the "ugly American" from overseas. No worries, mate!
Plus, why don't you read up on American history before you start spouting off stuff. George Bush was President from 1989-1993. Bush entered Yale in 1968.
Irrational hatred. Ooookay, so your saying that I can't hate the man who might get my brother killed in an illegal war? Thats not exactly something I have much control of. :D I don't hate him truth be told. I think he's too retarded to have orchestrated this kind of crap anyway xD.
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First off, I commend your brother's service and am proud of him. However, when did you brother sign up for the military? Did someone force him to join? Also, explain how the war is illegal when our Congress authorized it and Saddam broke 18 UN Resolutions since 1991?
I love this one. So, he's retarded, huh? Can you or have you: graduated from Yale, got an MBA from Harvard, fly F-102 jets for the National Guard? If you CAN'T do any of this, doesn't that make you SEVERELY RETARDED, then?
.. can you? Anyway, your right. Calling him retarded was somewhat childish and I apologize. Was kinda worked up since my brother recently told me that (for some reason) he would have to go back to Iraq.. FOR THE THIRD TIME. I dunno about you but that seems a bit of overkill.
I seem to recall the whole lying about having "undeniable proof" TO congress about.. you know what, you should already know about that.
Why did he enlist? Why did he re-enlist? Is he against being there, or just you. Our CIA believed Iraq had these. The head of the CIA (appointed by Clinton) believed it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam still had WMDs. Do we want our President to ignore the information from carreer spies, now? Should he just ignore info he gets from the CIA? Wasn't he accused of ignoring reports from the CIA a month before 9/11, even though nothing could've been done with that information anyway?
For some reason, he had the idea that he would only have to go back for a second time. Something about only once per term. I'm not a military man so I wouldn't know. But he had his first kid recently so I can't imagine him wanting to be there.
Since when was the CIA the only intelligence we had? I seem to recall some other reports that conflicted. Bush went with the reports that he wanted. At least from my perspective.
Do we have another intelligence agency I don't know about? So, according to you, if we get 7 sources saying Saddam still has WMDs and a nuclear program and wants to use them and maybe sell them to terrorists, and we have 3 sources saying there's no evidence saying he does, we should just ignore the majority of the evidence? OK. Don't worry, once the Community Organizer is President he will back down from every threat we have, then you'll be happy.
Kinda Republican-esque throwing out an insult there at the end. Truth doesn't mean jack to you does it? We actually have into the double digits of intelligence agencies I believe. And your "majority" evidence only applies if it is.. THE MAJORITY! ONLY the CIA said that there were WMDs. The absolute best light you could cast Bush in is utterly incompetent. Btw, "War is not so much a matter of weapons as of money." We have never been weaker than under your republican's "stronger" leadership.
How have "we never been weaker?" Why did almost all the other intelligence agencies on Planet Earth all come to the same conclusions as we did? Why did so many people from the other political party and foreign countries all believe it? Did they ALL LIE FOR BUSH? Explain yourself, Jack...
The hell? NO OTHER AGENCIES SUPPORTED THE CLAIM! Bush had to really sell it to the UN as I recall. You DO remember the whole "freedom fries" thing right? In the end we sorta bullied the UN into it.
Oh yeah, and like I said. War is a matter of money. Our economy is dying under republican rule. OH! And the generals themselves are now coming out and saying that our Army is stretched to the limit! FUN! Our national guard is stripped of equipment. We have little defenses. What do YOU call this?
British Intelligence believed it. Australian Intelligence believed it. If the UN didn't believe it, why did they want weapons inspectors in there to begin with? Why did they keep passing resolutions to try and force Saddam to prove he destroyed the WMDs and their programs? Why did all the Republicans and top Democrats all agree to authorize the Prez to use force?Why did Saddam act like he still had them?Why did he offer no proof the programs were ended? Why did so many people lie for Bush's war?
Sorry I was gone so long :). Classes started for me :P. Weeeelll I hear that Saddam was trying to convince Iran to not attack by making it look like they had WMDs.
The Brits didn't believe it. The Aussies didn't believe it. Your revising history. We convinced them to go along with us.
The only people who lied were in the CIA (and bush apparently).
The dems agreed because they were LIED TOOO! You can't fault someone who has been given false intelligence and told its true.
So you honestly believe everyone just went along with Bush because they were lied to? Really. You're wrong. British Intelligence DID come to the same conclusion. Australian Intelligence DID come to the same conclusion. I'm sorry that doesn't jibe with what you FEEL happened. But, you can't make the case that Bush is the stupidest President of all time, but he convinced the CIA to lie for him and convinced the leaders of the Free World, and the UN Security Council that Iraq had WMDs. Sorry.
Welll.. no. Australian intelligence was based mostly on what they had gotten from the US and UK. A quick search on the internet shows that Blair, like Bush, had utterly misstated the intelligence he received. He is now under investigation or something, I dunno. I CAN make the claim that Bush is the dumbest president ever since he had the worst grades for a president.. ever. Sooo.. it wasn't just Bush. There was also Blair and Australia who made the case. I didn't know that before. Thanks :).
I CAN make the claim that Bush is the dumbest president ever since he had the worst grades for a president.. ever.
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I do not believe that is true. I have seen an analysis (snope I think) that lists the "derived" IQ's of presidents and Bush is nowhere near the bottom.
I'm sorry but I disagree with your statement. Have you ever picked up a book on intelligence and read it? Nobody in the scientific community has ever been able to even DEFINE it. So how can you test for it? Besides..IQ tests are designed to find kids with mental difficulties and get them into a SpecialEd class. I'll leave you to find out how that changed :P.
I WAS however wrong to say that he had the worst grades. Just something I heard. Don't really know. I DO know that his results suck.
I'm sorry, no. The only book I found online with the name GEB in relation to intelligence was one on AI. I HIGHLY doubt that they took the time to explain the complete schism between all the disciplines of psychology on what intelligence is. If the definition of intelligence is relative to the expertise of those defining it without any unifying definition then it is undefined. And I'm not talking about "emotional" or "nonverbal" and the like. I'm talking about the bare-bones definition here...
I checked out Snopes.. I.. don't think that's the best place to make a final decision on. I didn't even see mention of his grades.
After some digging: He was a C to C- student on average in college. His Sat scores were actually lower than mine lol. He was in the middle of his class at flight school (weird that they gave him a pilot seat):/ And his pilot status was REVOKED after he missed a required physical. I'm sorry but this guy was always unqualified.
So, they should've ignored the intelligence that said he DID have WMDs and listened to the intelligence that he didn't. I'm glad you like to take chances like that, Nostradamus...
no they should of assessed the situation better and realized that he didnt have any wmd's in the first place. They knew he didnt have the wmd but bush had a vendetta with sadaam due his attempt to assasinate bush sr.
Ask General Smedley Butler, he wrote a book on the subject around ~1915 and some things have not changed for millinea.
Creating war for peace is like screwing for birth control.
Why is it so hard for 'conservatives' to understand that just because you're against a particular war does not mean you're for the bad guy du jour? ('Communist Hippies a/g Vietnam.)
Well, we can all debate that point. I just wouldn't align myself with these people. It's one thing to oppose this war. It's quite another to charge a sitting American President with treason and have him executed, which is what some of these hateful people are calling for...
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Wow jeffbatt2000. You appear to have no sense of humor at all. Well, I don't teach comedy by youtube messages so I will say good luck and move on to the next video. Thanks again for watching.
Don't blindly send this thing out if you don't want it criticized. Not everyone has your point of view. Sorry you're so touchy. I'll "MOVE ON TO THE NEXT VIDEO NOW".
This is one way 'they' keep us so dumb to the games, by not teaching us to think in the abstract, and the emotional levers and buttons to which we've been programmed to respond.) e.g. 'One, two, three, awe.' = Send us your hard earned money. Or 'They've killed our brothers.'=Kill, kill.
Some buttons are pressed via subtle metacommunications. (Roll eyes and smirk=Fool to believe
Hey ch3dder -- if growing up means killing innocent people without regret so i can make some dough -- sure, you bet. no problem. i'll get right on that.
Why do insults from Bushies so often come down to a feminine product? And why do they often use the word "liberal" like an insult? AND it would be more credible if there were supporting arguments as to why they believe it is mentally challenged as well rather than a blanket statement such as "This is fucking retarded." What is? The lighting, set, camera work, acting, direction, editing? And if so specifically which part and in what way? If it's just visceral then say that. Thanks for watching.
Sorry you didn't laugh once. To be honest I think it's hard to laugh at this stuff so perhaps you are to sensitive for this type of political humor. Thanks for watching though.
What innocent people? How do you know anyone's motives? How do you know if someone feels regret or not? Who are you to assign feelings and motives to people you do not know and will never meet? Who made you the "Decider" on all these people's intellects and motives? You just "know" that all this is true? Wow. Good for you.
Great question jeffbatt2000. The innocent people who are being imprisoned at Gitmo. Several people have actually been released from there because it was determined, after a long imprisonment with no contact with their families or anyone from the outside world and no representation, that they were wrongfully imprisoned on suspicion or by being accused by someone else within their village with a personal motive. Man. I can't even imagine having to go through that.
I'm so glad you asked your series of questions. I think you can know a persons motives if you are willing to look at the results and circumstances surrounding the situation. Some might say, "Follow the money." As for folks I do not know or will never meet, you mean like the people imprisoned in Gitmo for you? How do YOU know THEIR motives, sir? Nobody made me the decider. BTW The Decider isn't actually an official job just another catchy nickname.
As for who I am to assign feelings and motives this series is based on the opinions and point of view of the film makers my friend. But if you look at things said in it from the "defendants" box you will find that much of it is taken directly or paraphrased from actual quotes. Or at the least it is the way it came across to the film makers. As for regrets Mr. Bush has stated just last month his regret for saying such things as "Bring it on". If he had put some thought BEFORE speaking...who knows
OK, great. But if you're gonna blindly send out friend requests to watch this, keep in mind that just because Bush is extremely unpopular doesn't mean that everybody thinks it's funny to watch videos of putting our President through a War Crimes Trial. I didn't look this shit up. It was sent to me, so, I've commented on this. Project anything you want on the guy, just don't expect me to think this is funny or clever.
Hey jeffbatt2000. I didn't post the videos just acted in them so I didn't know how they were being distributed or promoted. I even more appreciate you watching (sincerely) but would never put an expectation on you finding the humor whether you sought it out or not. Clearly you didn't appreciate the commentary written into the script which is intended as much more than just a comedy. The fact is those who made it feel he has done tremendous damage to the USA. A Country we all presumably love yes?
It is evil in mischaracterizing the efforts of the current administration as INTENTIONALLY nefarious. I have no doubt that Bush, who made such egregious errors that he deserved to be fired, did not do them with an INTENT to injure America.
Bush may not have set out to injure the U.S. (not "America", unless you want to unclude Canada and all of Central and South America, or unless you don't think they matter), but he did NOT set out to do good for our country. He CERTAINLY didn't set out to do good anywhere else. ILLEGALLY and IMMORALLY invading and occupying another country for their oil is an "evil" policy; it is not "evil" to portray anyone as anything, as long as you believe it. Fascist.
And I do believe he set out to do good for our country. At the time he made his decisions polls indicated that most democrats supported him. Were they set out to do evil for our country?
I think not. People make mistakes.
Making mistakes is not the same thing as being evil.
But, on the other hand impugning motives without evidence is evil.
DURound, thanks for watching, but you're delusional. You might be right, bush isn't evil,he might just be a puppet. but he conspired w/the force of evil that is dick cheney & those who set about to keep the war machine in motion. "people make mistakes" lol... when "mistakes" result in the killing of thousands & imprisoning hundreds for no apparent reason -- that, my dear is evil. Bush participated-no way around it. He will live out his days in his personally created hell. That place w/no love
I think that Bush sleeps well at night. Those that are "imprisoned for no apparant reason" aren't killing Americans. I think maybe Bill Clinton can't sleep at night, knowing that he could have had bin Laden in custody from the Sudan and turned him down...
As I said about Bush before, the democrats who supported the war aren't necessarily evil, but they were NOT trying to do good. Do you know who made the most money off of the war through investments? John Kerry, with almost $6 million over 4 years.
Democrats and republicans are the same. They don't pass legislation and take actions that are good for the people of the U.S. Rather, they respond to special interests and they cater to the corporate elite.
That is exactly what I AM saying. The democrats, just like Bush, were not necessarily acting out of evil, but they did not have good intentions. They failed to look into the situation, and they didn't care that it might lead to tens of thousands killed and a country in ruins for NOTHING (except control of the oil-- Exxon, Shell, and 2 other companies are finalizing the contracts that give them control of the fields right now), rather than death and destruction to overthrow a dangerous dictator.
No, you precisely said that Bush acted out of evil motives. Shall I quote you?
Moreover you still say that their intentions were not good. Do you believe the Democrats intentions were not good? Do you think that they were trying to do "not good"?
As far as Exxon, Shell, etc, You seem ignorant of the facts. The companies that are making out in Iraq are Chinese, Russian, French and German, not US. This has been widely reported.
You are correct. I think that the democrats' intentions are not good. I think that most decisions in congress are not genuinely and purely for the good of the American people. But, of course, that is what happens when you are governed by a plutocracy.
The companies are Exxon, Shell, BP and Chevron. They are finalizing no-bid contracts with Iraq's "oil ministry" RIGHT NOW that will give them access to the oil fields. They prevailed over almost all other companies for the deal.
Bash forced Iraq to pass the Iraq Oil Law, containing the PSA (profit sharing agreement) that guarantees foreign companies 70% of the oil profits, contrary to the UN resolution at the start of the war that declared all proceeds would go to the rebuilding and domestic needs of Iraq.
I don't really want to keep listing things here, and I don't have an organized list memorized, so I, again, recommend reading article XII in Kucinich's articles of impeachment if you want to see for yourself.
Production Sharing Agreements were not forced on Iraq. But Iraq needed them. They basically say "Oil companies will explore and drill.. we will pay them back... after that they get 20%" This is a way of getting investment in a very difficult part of the world. There is nothing evil, shady or illegal about this. No reason for impeachment. No law against it.
By the way, there is MASSIVE evidence to refute Bush's claims that he invaded out of concern for the U.S. (the people, not the corporations). Therefore, it is not "evil" to be "impugning motives".
See article XII of Kucinich's recently introduced articles of impeachment.
Search "Kucinich 35 articles", go to the first result and select "read all articles in a PDF". Article 12 is on page 24.
Aewester, if there is MASSIVE evidence, why is NONE of it reported? Why is that it is always ALLUDED to and ACCUSATIONS MADE but evidence... actual real evidence NEVER GIVEN? Come on now... its MASSIVE... it must be easy to come up with. You are a big boy... cough it up!
Sorry... there is massive evidence to *support the argument* that Bush went to Iraq for oil.
As for why it wasn't reported... The U.S. has a terrible media system, controlled by a few corporations. Tell me, why would a profit-based corporation have ANY reason to shake things up and make us question power, political or economic, as they are HEAVILY intertwined???
Ughh, you're really annoying. If you'd go find out for yourself, you'd find out that the most recent story on Iraq's oil ministry and its oil fields you'd see that Exxon, shell, BP and Chevron are FINALIZING NO-BID CONTRACTS TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THE FIELDS. Just go look it up yourself, please, and stop asking me what's wrong with me for giving you accurate, up-to-date information!!
You do not seem to be thinking this through very much. Sure oil companies are negotiating with them to help explore, drill and refine oil. Who else is going to do that? Do you think that should be Sony Music doing that? Or Mazaratti?
BUT... even though they are negotiating... the major companies in Iraq are Chinese, German, Russian, etc. Not US. That is a fact.
Did you find out about the current deals being finalized that will give access to the 4 American companies for more than the next 30 years yet?!?!? This is what is relevant now.
All I am saying is that the oil company agreements, the secret task force, maps of Iraqi Oil fields, deliberately conferring Bin Laden with Iraq, the oil company executives running the white house, the Pentagon propaganda campaign in the media to push the ewar, the "WMD" lies, etc. represent evidence that Bush DID NOT ACT OUT OF THE INTERESTS OF THE U.S. AND ITS PEOPLE. I happen to think that if all of this IS TRUE, it was an evil act, but there is no base for the claim that he was doing good.
X-D
Mesina2 2 years ago
Yeah. Cheney does look like Cheney.
But Lincoln would NEVER consider being part of this "trial". Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, jailed his political opponents and tried to find the most demoralizing and human life destroying weapons he could afford.
He would have put the people who made this video in jail and would consider Bush weak for putting up with all the crap.
DURound 3 years ago
Nice - cheyney looks like cheyney
ThemowofChow 3 years ago 2
One of the things that is REALLY STUPID about this video is its portrayal of Lincoln. He suspended Habeus Corpus, developed horrific weapons of destruction and imprisoned his political enemies who called for his impeachment.
He would have considered Bush somewhat weak and the people who did this video, traitors or enemies.
DURound 3 years ago
Now, for all that praise George W. Bush's academic accomplishments... Even if his daddy wasn't president then, he came from a very rich family, full of politicians. It does make sense. Let's get some facts here, from wikipedia:
"To the C students, I say, 'You too can be president of the United States,"' Bush said at the 300th commencement of Yale University.
Erunestian 3 years ago
Or: "He was a C student, scoring 77% (with no As and one D, in astronomy) with a grade point average of 2.35 out of a possible 4.00. Bush has joked that he was known more for his social life than for his grades."
Or: "At the height of the Vietnam War, Bush was accepted into the Texas Air National Guard in May 1968, after scoring the lowest acceptable passing grade on the pilot's written aptitude test."
Erunestian 3 years ago
You're intriguing in your POV jeffbatt2000. Thank you for coming back to debate the value of "this garbage" from your superior position. You said it best of all when you said you "can't believe they found actors to participate in something like this.." I think the key is a limit to your ability for abstract, non-concrete thinking. And if you consider Obama a community organizer then good cuz one is needed after 8 years of Bush disorganizing our community. And please define elitist.
jimnieb 3 years ago
its a shame videos like this make it to t.v.
deezenutsbiatch 3 years ago
I know, I know, Sallylilsmartazz -- it' snot funny -- that's why we had to make it funny. thanks for stopping by -- take a look at the other videos, too -- especially the trailer -- they'll help you laugh, too.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Thanks, twoguysnamedrob -- we appreciate it!
Episode #4 releasing soon!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
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twoguysnamedrob 3 years ago
LMAO...nice clip.
alexjones4president 3 years ago
Thanks to everyone for being so passionate about your points of view!!! Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing us with your friends & family. :-))))))))))
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
5 stars , thanks for illustrating what Bozos these war criminals really are !
Yankhadenough 3 years ago
The only thing illustrated here is Orwellian propaganda and Stalinesque show trials...these jackasses are a parody of themselves...they portray themselves for the fools they are.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
well, thank for stopping by! glad to see your mood has improved so much!!!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
mulhollanddose good point... unfortunately, they act evil because they are :(
Yankhadenough 3 years ago
Thanks yankhadenough!!!
Episode #4 should be out on July 21 -- so stay tuned!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Bush=Uniter
Democrats=Dividers
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
"The media rolls over?"...Are you kidding me?...The media has made it their main mission to do everything and anything the Democrat party fabricates...the main mission has been destroying Bush and creating division in America.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
This type of garbage is what maggots feed on...maggots and terrorists...those both like feeding on moist steaming turds.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
I've heard that they have ties!
LECLARA 3 years ago
Just wanted to update everyone. Episode 4 is in post and is drawing nearer. And for those of you who were offended by Episode 3, I just want you to know... we've worked extra hard to make sure episode 4 is even more offensive. And disgusting. We're hoping to offend and repel this time. It's a dream. Tim Bartell / writer-director / "Fun With War Crimes"
fellinitim 3 years ago
ha, ha, ha!!!!
MelindaAugustina 3 years ago
fellin: "And disgusting. We're hoping to offend and repel this time. It's a dream."
Typical liberal swine. Not an ounce of truth...This video is a perfect example of the effects of systematic brainwashing by the liberal propaganda machine...fiction.
There once was a time when Hollywood had honor, a long long long long time ago...Now Hollywood is full of neo-communists whose main objective is to get stinking filthy rich producing celluloid crap.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
LOL...stinking filthy rich? off of a youtube video? really? LMFAO ... you are truly clueless.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
funwith: "LOL...stinking filthy rich? off of a youtube video?"
Obviously not yourself. But your neo-communist rat comrades who have an ideological stranglehold on Hollywood...Yes, obviously your work is low-level slime, but you are simply a byproduct of the high-level agit-prop that infests Hollyweird and the uber-rich hypocrites who dominate it.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
Hey! I resemble that remark! Thanks for making that distinction for us!;-)
Peace to you.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Allah Akbar mofo...may the curse of Allah be upon you
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
LOL! Right on! Thank you! :-)
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
I have an idea...Why don't you do a piece on Bill Clinton having his National Security Adviser going into the National Archive chambers and shoving top-secret (9/11 related) documents down his pants and in his socks (which REALLY happened)...It would be really funny; and then you can have Clinton's cronies sitting in judgement of Bush and accusing him of war crimes!!!...lol...but that doesn't fit in with your agenda does it?
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
You should also do a piece with Muslims celebrating the fact that the Democrats use terrorist bombings to undermine the war...You can make the Democrats and the terrorists friends in their war against Bush...
but that wouldn't fit your agenda, would it?
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
And you should learn the difference between an unsanctioned illegal invasion and a "war".
The USA declared "war on terror". Terror isn't a nation listed under UN declarations of war. Thus the US invasion is a warcrime.
Starting to get the picture now, Cletus?
silencergroup 3 years ago
You are a complete crackpot! What a freaking wacko!
silencergroup 3 years ago
Hey, who funds you scumbags?...I know liberal scum fund that guy who puts up the "Obey" commie posters.
People like you are the scum who have divided this nation for the last 7.5 years...It is scumbags like you that have created the hate, fomented distrust in America, and have made success liberating Iraq near impossible.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
And YOU are the reason people all over the world STOPPED purchasing US made goods, so that we could bankrupt your economy, thus saving the lives of children being shot in the back by your 'liberating' soldiers.
Hope the value of your house skyrockets with your attitudes - cause if you can spout shit like that, you MUST be living in a fantasy world.
silencergroup 3 years ago
silence: "And YOU are the reason people all over the world STOPPED purchasing US made goods"
You brainwashed moron...go to Santa Monica's third-street promenade, or any tourist spot, and you will see Europeans, etc., buying our crap like a dehydrated man takes a drink...where do you people get this shit you regurgitate?
When are you liberal scumbags going to pull out of the American hell-holes?...Whereever a Democrat rules the crime rates are high, the murder rates are out of control.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
You keep telling yourself that at the gas pump.
So, when did you Americans start letting people like this have computer access? You know, its ok not to let the criminally insane online....
silencergroup 3 years ago
silencer: "when did you Americans start letting people like this have computer access?"
Sorry, we haven't totally descended into liberal fascism yet...We are still a relatively free country...it has been a long time since the liberals put Japanese women and children in concentration camps...it has been a long time since the Democrats wire-tapped Martin Luther King, Jr.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
silencer: "You keep telling yourself that at the gas pump."
Jackass...you do know we get our gas from you, right?...We subsidize your economy (pharmaceuticals/military protection), but you just spit in our face.
It is no wonder Canadians are looked down upon.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
silencer: "thus saving the lives of children being shot in the back by your 'liberating' soldiers."
Perhaps if you believed the truth (like Saddam's brutal and barbaric reign of terror, or Al Qaeda's slaughter of fellow muslims), you would be half-way down the path of extricating your head from your ass...WTF is wrong with you people?...You are fucking deranged hate filled liberals.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
No, we are hate filled Canadians who don't buy your lies.
You are a brutal and murderous invading army.
Achung, mulhollanddose you goddamn nazi.
silencergroup 3 years ago
silencer: "we are hate filled Canadians who don't buy your lies."
On the contrary, that is all you buy...American lies fill your mouth like a man being finally relieved of constipation fills a toilet.
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
"liberal" wow... he knows a word! :)
Oh look, Blocked!!! Wow! Guess you lost an audience!
silencergroup 3 years ago
Now Bush, Cheney & McCain are Hell BENT
on starting some shyt with Iran!
We're In A Lot Of Trouble!
Bush should be IMPEACHED!
LECLARA 3 years ago
I really feel electric chair is not necessary -- but more fitting is to be doing the hard labor on contruction crew for the next 20 years -- rebuilding Louisiana, Iraq, Afghanistan
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
More liberal bullshit...go figure
mulhollanddose 3 years ago
well done hit it on the nail.very clever.
tanyasbigbrowneyes 3 years ago
Nothing but a band of criminals! America is in trouble! "I grieve for my country when I reflect that God is just and God's Justice will not sleep forever!" Thomas Jefferson
Brodavidbrayboy 3 years ago
In response to an earlier post:
"I just don't get why it's supposed to be funny. Is Petraeus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?"
Yes!! (Duh)
fellinitim 3 years ago
Before last summer, in over 30 years of highly decorated military service, Petraeus has never, ever had his integrity questioned. Who are you to call it into question? Have you ever risked your life for your country?
Bush graduated from Yale, got an MBA from Harvard, and can fly a fighter jet. Can you do any of that? Then doesn't that make you "dumber" than him?
When has there been any accounts of Cheney killing a kiity cat? There hasn't? So why is that funny?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Well, I truly appreciate his service to our freedom and respect the service of our military. I have no children myself but have several nieces and nephews. 2 of my nephews chose to join the military (one Army one Marines). One served honorably over there and the other goes to marine training in the coming months. So as for the General his service is not in question in the video. It's the fact that he became a mouth piece for the Bush administration. That's all that's shown in the video.
jimnieb 3 years ago
As for Mr. Bush and his education. Education is not an indication of intelligence, just training. Bush applies his lessons horribly in my opinion and has been a horrible leader for his terms as President. As for flying a fighter jet I refer to education again. He's very well trained and many fighter jet pilots are very intelligent people with excellent judgment. Mr. Bush doesn't seem to be one of those with good judgement. As for the cat...Are you seriously taking that literally?
jimnieb 3 years ago
Ran out of space...Allow me to explain. The cat, as stated in the video, represents an attack on freedom. i.e. Illegal wiretapping (which the freakin' dems gave a pass to this week and made it RETROACTIVE!), habeus corpus. It's parody and many of the ideas are abstract metaphors for something else.
jimnieb 3 years ago
Well Jimbo you sure gave it the ol' college try!
As an actor in the piece I can only say robotic Generally.
LippincottFilms 3 years ago
thanks YouTune!!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
This my first episode and it was THE BOMB!
So great! Who produced this comic gem of audio-visual enlightenment? So hilarious!
Bravo, Bravo!
Thx a lot!
Subscribed!
Keep it up!
Tressco 3 years ago 2
Hi tressco -- that comic Gem of audio-visual enlightenment would be Tim Bartell -- click our ID for link to website. thanks! be sure to share w/friends!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Is the "Patreus" here supposed to be a robot? Is he a pathological liar? Is he an actor? I don't get it.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
So far, the best satire I've seen on YT since the Onion!
redflags123 3 years ago
Thanks!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Although there is humor, there is also truth. Good post!
Arachnidia 3 years ago
Thank you.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
WAR = PEACE & FREEDOM
Why is that so hard 4 Americans to understand ? :)
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
It has always mystified me. there's a great book called "Why America can't kick it's addiction to War" I highly recommend. The economic forces at work w/in the war system are firmly entrenched in our political/economic culture. As long as young men & women keep signing up to fight & thre's money to be made, it will never go away. Those who have an agreement for war should be shipped to an island, have one last huge go at it and kill each other so the rest of us can live in peace.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Is war always wrong or just this war?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Does this video cover anything but the war on Iraq? You really don't get it do you jeffbatt2000? Wow.
jimnieb 3 years ago
I get the points being made. I just don't get whay it's supposed to be funny. Is Patreus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Well I'm not about to try and explain the comedy. If you don't get it you don't get it. As for your other questions "Is Patreus supposed to be a pre-programmed robot? Is Bush supposed to have the IQ of Forrest Gump? Is Cheney a homocidal mad man?" What you think? (Completely rhetorical question so no need to answer anyone but yourself, my friend.) Again thanks for watching and for the correspondence.
jimnieb 3 years ago
Well, don't blindly send this video to people, then. You have to have ready-made inclinations as to the personalities of these people to believe this is funny. It's just that the facts make me not like this. Patreus is a highly decorated officer who has never had his patriotism or credentials questioned before last summer. Bush graduated from Yale, has an MBA from Harvard, and can fly a fighter jet, doesn't sound dumb to me. And I just have no reason to believe Cheney kills kittens. Sorry...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
You don't see the humour because it is YOU that is a dumb pre programmed robot who obeys and supports his homicidal madmen masters .
If you are going 2b a robot ,go and get your cock sucker chip replaced with a Humanity chip and stop being an embarrassment to Humans .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
I love how people like you never argue with facts. You insult me, accuse me of things of which you have no proof, and try to make me look like a fool. I wish that you were confident enough in yourself to not have to accuse me of sucking penises. I forgive you for being so rude and crass with me.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I think you really are a robot
, you can not see humour at all .
You are so literal in your interpretation of comments .
I didn't accuse you of sucking penises , i (more or less ) called you a cock -sucker .
Now ,where i come from it means you are somewhat of a lackey ,a submissive groveler .
An arse licker (NOT in the literal sense ) lol
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Oh, so I should be happy you called me a cock-sucker. Thank you. Listen, I'm sorry, I don't come from the point of view that Bush is stupid (Yale degree, Harvard MBA, can fly a jet), Petreaus is a robot (over 30 years of unquestioned, exemplary, decorated service) or that Cheney is evil (never killed a kitty, or any other small animal by slamming it on a table).
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
The scull and bones mob , pretty much get their degrees just 4 signing up ,i haven't heard of any thesis Bush has authored , have you ? I doubt very much that Bush ever got a Military jet fighter pilots licence .He probably only got to handle the controls while in the front cockpit (pilot in rear).
Also Bush is illiterate .
As 4 Cheney ,he probably slams small animals after he has shot and wounded them first and if anybody doesn't like it they get shot in the friggin face .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Oh, OK. Yale and Harvard, 2 of the most prestigious universities on Planet Earth, just give diplomas away. Thank you for informing me of that. And I'm glad you just "know" Bush can't fly a jet. That was all made up. You just don't "feel" like he got it. OK. I guess you're not interested in facts. You just "know" things about Bush. Wow. And Cheney is just plain evil. He accidentally shot his friend and to you it's because his friend saw him killing a small animal by shaking it. How old are you?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I've got a play list on Bush ,i know enough ,his reputation includes cocaine and alcohol abuse and he can't even read and write .He always just says what he is told to say through his ear piece .Every time he does speak freely he always says the dumbest most stupid comments .By the way Michael Moore knows Dubya very well , he was a neighbour ,he'll tell you ,Bush is illiterate .pilot ? Yeah right !!
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
First of all, know one has ever come forward wiht any accusations on Bush using cocaine. However, Obama admitted using cocaine and marijauna in his own book. He said it himself in the audio version. So, I guess you're for McCain, then? Second, where the hell did you come up with Moore being neighbors with Bush? Third of all, do you really think an illiterate person could graduate from 2 Ivy League Schools? And lastly, Bush flew F-103 jets in the National Guard and rated in the top 10% pilots
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I love your facts include his "reputation". That reputation was given to him by those who hate him. You have ZERO (0) proof that he did cocaine. NONE, WHATSOEVER. Yet you continue to say it. So, does using cocaine disqualify Obama from being President, then? He has admitted to it in his own words. Why is that OK? Plus, have you ever seen Obama speak without a teleprompter? He doesn't know what he's talking about. Why do you think he's afraid to do unscripted townhall debates with McCain?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I don't give a shit about Obama or McCain .I have not mentioned them , nor do i wish to .
" do you really think an illiterate person could graduate from 2 Ivy League Schools? "
When your daddy is ex/ president of USA and worth billions , then anything is possible .
It has been estimated that something like 6 out of 7 words that Bush says is a lie .
Odds are , any imfo from (and about )the Bush family , is most likely bullshit.
At the same time the real truth is covered up .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Uh, Bush went to Yale and Harvard in the late 60's, early 70's. Bush Sr. was not President yet or worth millions. Plus, I hate calling names on this site like so many people like you do, but to say "6 out of 7 things Bush says are a lie" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone, anywhere say. I'm not even getting into how logistically that's just impossible and unquantifiable, almost every example you site about him are opinions, not lies. Give me one lie, just one.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
It is not worth going through life as full of hatred as you have. You should focus all the energy you put at irrational hatred for this one man on something positive. You have control of your life. You don't have to waste your time hating another country's President...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
O.K. sunshine ,i'll try to be more luvy duvy .
Just 4 your interest ,i have never actually dicussed GWB b4 ,so i do not have a unhealthy hatred .I just say it , as i see it .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Oh, OK. So your "gut instinct" trumps facts. All right, I guess you won the conversation. Enjoy despising the "ugly American" from overseas. No worries, mate!
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I guess you won the conversation. " . I don't think anyone has ever said that 2 me b4.
You are nice guy ,manners , well spoken ,honest ,humble .respectful (Ya fair dinkum mate .)
I really miss judged U . I think ,maybe u r perhaps a little innocent ,but no crime in that , and undeserving of what i called u , so i apologize .
Its not really about winning conversations , its just having fun , not destinations but journeys .right ?
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Plus, why don't you read up on American history before you start spouting off stuff. George Bush was President from 1989-1993. Bush entered Yale in 1968.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
lol
I made the comment ,
THEN did the math , but posted anyway .
I don't really know why ,
i knew u would pick up on it . My only excuse is that it was 5am and I was sleepy an lazy, but the other part was true
about the huge wealth of the Bush family .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago
Irrational hatred. Ooookay, so your saying that I can't hate the man who might get my brother killed in an illegal war? Thats not exactly something I have much control of. :D I don't hate him truth be told. I think he's too retarded to have orchestrated this kind of crap anyway xD.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
thanks for watching, Jack Whistle -- love your username, by the way - how did you get that? We hope you'll subscribe -- episode #4 is about to be released! thanks!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Like the name Jack. Whistle just sort of happened. :)
JackWhistle 3 years ago
First off, I commend your brother's service and am proud of him. However, when did you brother sign up for the military? Did someone force him to join? Also, explain how the war is illegal when our Congress authorized it and Saddam broke 18 UN Resolutions since 1991?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I love this one. So, he's retarded, huh? Can you or have you: graduated from Yale, got an MBA from Harvard, fly F-102 jets for the National Guard? If you CAN'T do any of this, doesn't that make you SEVERELY RETARDED, then?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
.. can you? Anyway, your right. Calling him retarded was somewhat childish and I apologize. Was kinda worked up since my brother recently told me that (for some reason) he would have to go back to Iraq.. FOR THE THIRD TIME. I dunno about you but that seems a bit of overkill.
I seem to recall the whole lying about having "undeniable proof" TO congress about.. you know what, you should already know about that.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
Why did he enlist? Why did he re-enlist? Is he against being there, or just you. Our CIA believed Iraq had these. The head of the CIA (appointed by Clinton) believed it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam still had WMDs. Do we want our President to ignore the information from carreer spies, now? Should he just ignore info he gets from the CIA? Wasn't he accused of ignoring reports from the CIA a month before 9/11, even though nothing could've been done with that information anyway?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
For some reason, he had the idea that he would only have to go back for a second time. Something about only once per term. I'm not a military man so I wouldn't know. But he had his first kid recently so I can't imagine him wanting to be there.
Since when was the CIA the only intelligence we had? I seem to recall some other reports that conflicted. Bush went with the reports that he wanted. At least from my perspective.
"100% sure" my ass.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
Do we have another intelligence agency I don't know about? So, according to you, if we get 7 sources saying Saddam still has WMDs and a nuclear program and wants to use them and maybe sell them to terrorists, and we have 3 sources saying there's no evidence saying he does, we should just ignore the majority of the evidence? OK. Don't worry, once the Community Organizer is President he will back down from every threat we have, then you'll be happy.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Kinda Republican-esque throwing out an insult there at the end. Truth doesn't mean jack to you does it? We actually have into the double digits of intelligence agencies I believe. And your "majority" evidence only applies if it is.. THE MAJORITY! ONLY the CIA said that there were WMDs. The absolute best light you could cast Bush in is utterly incompetent. Btw, "War is not so much a matter of weapons as of money." We have never been weaker than under your republican's "stronger" leadership.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
How have "we never been weaker?" Why did almost all the other intelligence agencies on Planet Earth all come to the same conclusions as we did? Why did so many people from the other political party and foreign countries all believe it? Did they ALL LIE FOR BUSH? Explain yourself, Jack...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
The hell? NO OTHER AGENCIES SUPPORTED THE CLAIM! Bush had to really sell it to the UN as I recall. You DO remember the whole "freedom fries" thing right? In the end we sorta bullied the UN into it.
Oh yeah, and like I said. War is a matter of money. Our economy is dying under republican rule. OH! And the generals themselves are now coming out and saying that our Army is stretched to the limit! FUN! Our national guard is stripped of equipment. We have little defenses. What do YOU call this?
JackWhistle 3 years ago
British Intelligence believed it. Australian Intelligence believed it. If the UN didn't believe it, why did they want weapons inspectors in there to begin with? Why did they keep passing resolutions to try and force Saddam to prove he destroyed the WMDs and their programs? Why did all the Republicans and top Democrats all agree to authorize the Prez to use force?Why did Saddam act like he still had them?Why did he offer no proof the programs were ended? Why did so many people lie for Bush's war?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Sorry I was gone so long :). Classes started for me :P. Weeeelll I hear that Saddam was trying to convince Iran to not attack by making it look like they had WMDs.
The Brits didn't believe it. The Aussies didn't believe it. Your revising history. We convinced them to go along with us.
The only people who lied were in the CIA (and bush apparently).
The dems agreed because they were LIED TOOO! You can't fault someone who has been given false intelligence and told its true.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
So you honestly believe everyone just went along with Bush because they were lied to? Really. You're wrong. British Intelligence DID come to the same conclusion. Australian Intelligence DID come to the same conclusion. I'm sorry that doesn't jibe with what you FEEL happened. But, you can't make the case that Bush is the stupidest President of all time, but he convinced the CIA to lie for him and convinced the leaders of the Free World, and the UN Security Council that Iraq had WMDs. Sorry.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Welll.. no. Australian intelligence was based mostly on what they had gotten from the US and UK. A quick search on the internet shows that Blair, like Bush, had utterly misstated the intelligence he received. He is now under investigation or something, I dunno. I CAN make the claim that Bush is the dumbest president ever since he had the worst grades for a president.. ever. Sooo.. it wasn't just Bush. There was also Blair and Australia who made the case. I didn't know that before. Thanks :).
JackWhistle 3 years ago
I CAN make the claim that Bush is the dumbest president ever since he had the worst grades for a president.. ever.
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I do not believe that is true. I have seen an analysis (snope I think) that lists the "derived" IQ's of presidents and Bush is nowhere near the bottom.
DURound 3 years ago
I'm sorry but I disagree with your statement. Have you ever picked up a book on intelligence and read it? Nobody in the scientific community has ever been able to even DEFINE it. So how can you test for it? Besides..IQ tests are designed to find kids with mental difficulties and get them into a SpecialEd class. I'll leave you to find out how that changed :P.
I WAS however wrong to say that he had the worst grades. Just something I heard. Don't really know. I DO know that his results suck.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
Have you ever picked up a book on intelligence and read it?
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***Sure. One of the greatest books of our age. GEB. Have you read it?
Nobody in the scientific community has ever been able to even DEFINE it.
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***That is false. It has been defined. It is just not defined in a way that everyone likes.
I WAS however wrong to say that he had the worst grades. Just something I heard. Don't really know. I DO know that his results suck.
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***Not according to Snopes.
DURound 3 years ago
I'm sorry, no. The only book I found online with the name GEB in relation to intelligence was one on AI. I HIGHLY doubt that they took the time to explain the complete schism between all the disciplines of psychology on what intelligence is. If the definition of intelligence is relative to the expertise of those defining it without any unifying definition then it is undefined. And I'm not talking about "emotional" or "nonverbal" and the like. I'm talking about the bare-bones definition here...
JackWhistle 3 years ago
I'm sorry, no. The only book I found online with the name GEB in relation to intelligence was one on AI
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***Its not about AI.
I HIGHLY doubt that they took the time to explain the complete schism between all the disciplines of psychology on what intelligence is.
***Yet you are clueless.
DURound 3 years ago
I checked out Snopes.. I.. don't think that's the best place to make a final decision on. I didn't even see mention of his grades.
After some digging: He was a C to C- student on average in college. His Sat scores were actually lower than mine lol. He was in the middle of his class at flight school (weird that they gave him a pilot seat):/ And his pilot status was REVOKED after he missed a required physical. I'm sorry but this guy was always unqualified.
JackWhistle 3 years ago
Btw, they kept passing resolutions because he wouldn't prove it for them, and because.. ITS THEIR JOB!
JackWhistle 3 years ago
there was also contrary intelligence from cia members which they chose to ignore.
deezenutsbiatch 3 years ago
So, they should've ignored the intelligence that said he DID have WMDs and listened to the intelligence that he didn't. I'm glad you like to take chances like that, Nostradamus...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
no they should of assessed the situation better and realized that he didnt have any wmd's in the first place. They knew he didnt have the wmd but bush had a vendetta with sadaam due his attempt to assasinate bush sr.
deezenutsbiatch 3 years ago
that's such a great question. I don't know.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Yes , what often concerns me ,is the effect that this type of rhetoric is having on kids .
It doesn't surprise me that school bullying and shootings are on the increase .
PYTHAGORAS101 3 years ago 2
Hi Pythagoras101 -- thanks for stopping by! Please share with friends and foes. ;-)
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Ask General Smedley Butler, he wrote a book on the subject around ~1915 and some things have not changed for millinea.
Creating war for peace is like screwing for birth control.
Why is it so hard for 'conservatives' to understand that just because you're against a particular war does not mean you're for the bad guy du jour? ('Communist Hippies a/g Vietnam.)
dstevens101 3 years ago 2
Great contribution, dstevens, thanks for stopping by!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Well, we can all debate that point. I just wouldn't align myself with these people. It's one thing to oppose this war. It's quite another to charge a sitting American President with treason and have him executed, which is what some of these hateful people are calling for...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Because peace and freedom's attained via victory through a just war, America's war is to rob oil and food off Arabs and other peoples of the world.
Kellerharius 3 years ago
Kellerharius -- Exactly. And it s an embarrassing shame.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
It's not even to conquer land or to benefit the state, it's one big money making business. An absolute fucking joke.
Kellerharius 3 years ago
"Just such free speech as parody." That's what I meant to say.
fellinitim 3 years ago
Director Tim here. I'm glad our videos have prompted such lively debate. Thank you, even to the haters. It would have been no fun to write a satire and not piss anybody off. To paraphrase Al Franken, the Constitution allows for just free speech as parody... even if the people being parodied don't get it. :)
fellinitim 3 years ago
A note to viewers. Please look beyond the "humor" in these episodes and see what is trying to be said. And realize that something truly must have affected the film makers to motivate them to go to all this expense and effort. If you don't recognize that the behaviors presented by the characters are similar to the real world folks then you are, in my opinion, either blinded by your views willingly or lying. And remember this is parody so creative liberties are used to get the points across.
jimnieb 3 years ago 2
You're right. I'll bet Cheney kills bunnies by smashing them on a table all the time.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
No no. Just hunts lawyers with buckshot. And it's a kitty. Very important to distinguish.
jimnieb 3 years ago
Sorry. So, it's your position that his hunting accident was on purpose? Really? If it was, why didn't his friend press charges against him?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Wow jeffbatt2000. You appear to have no sense of humor at all. Well, I don't teach comedy by youtube messages so I will say good luck and move on to the next video. Thanks again for watching.
jimnieb 3 years ago 2
I can laugh at the President, I do all the time. I just don't see the humerous premise in putting an American President through a War-Crimes Trial.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Don't blindly send this thing out if you don't want it criticized. Not everyone has your point of view. Sorry you're so touchy. I'll "MOVE ON TO THE NEXT VIDEO NOW".
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Think metaphorically.
This is one way 'they' keep us so dumb to the games, by not teaching us to think in the abstract, and the emotional levers and buttons to which we've been programmed to respond.) e.g. 'One, two, three, awe.' = Send us your hard earned money. Or 'They've killed our brothers.'=Kill, kill.
Some buttons are pressed via subtle metacommunications. (Roll eyes and smirk=Fool to believe
dstevens101 3 years ago
are you a teacher???? if not, you should be!
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
I don't get it...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
I watched this and didn't laugh once. Which are the funny parts?
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Loved that cut scene at the end with the gulkster
SlaveStorm 3 years ago
lol this is awesome
truthspeaker2000 3 years ago
Lol..this is crazy.
madzndean 3 years ago
I love the fact that you guys took the time to make this happen. It still need to be refined but a great video nontheless
hoomandottv 3 years ago
By the way, that actor who does George Bush is pretty good.
The Cheney guy looks so much like him!
DURound 3 years ago
This is fucking retarded. Grow up liberal douchebags...
ch3dder 3 years ago
Hey ch3dder -- if growing up means killing innocent people without regret so i can make some dough -- sure, you bet. no problem. i'll get right on that.
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
Why do insults from Bushies so often come down to a feminine product? And why do they often use the word "liberal" like an insult? AND it would be more credible if there were supporting arguments as to why they believe it is mentally challenged as well rather than a blanket statement such as "This is fucking retarded." What is? The lighting, set, camera work, acting, direction, editing? And if so specifically which part and in what way? If it's just visceral then say that. Thanks for watching.
jimnieb 3 years ago
I just don't see what was funny. It didn't make me laugh once.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Sorry you didn't laugh once. To be honest I think it's hard to laugh at this stuff so perhaps you are to sensitive for this type of political humor. Thanks for watching though.
jimnieb 3 years ago
What innocent people? How do you know anyone's motives? How do you know if someone feels regret or not? Who are you to assign feelings and motives to people you do not know and will never meet? Who made you the "Decider" on all these people's intellects and motives? You just "know" that all this is true? Wow. Good for you.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Great question jeffbatt2000. The innocent people who are being imprisoned at Gitmo. Several people have actually been released from there because it was determined, after a long imprisonment with no contact with their families or anyone from the outside world and no representation, that they were wrongfully imprisoned on suspicion or by being accused by someone else within their village with a personal motive. Man. I can't even imagine having to go through that.
jimnieb 3 years ago
I'm so glad you asked your series of questions. I think you can know a persons motives if you are willing to look at the results and circumstances surrounding the situation. Some might say, "Follow the money." As for folks I do not know or will never meet, you mean like the people imprisoned in Gitmo for you? How do YOU know THEIR motives, sir? Nobody made me the decider. BTW The Decider isn't actually an official job just another catchy nickname.
jimnieb 3 years ago
As for who I am to assign feelings and motives this series is based on the opinions and point of view of the film makers my friend. But if you look at things said in it from the "defendants" box you will find that much of it is taken directly or paraphrased from actual quotes. Or at the least it is the way it came across to the film makers. As for regrets Mr. Bush has stated just last month his regret for saying such things as "Bring it on". If he had put some thought BEFORE speaking...who knows
jimnieb 3 years ago
OK, great. But if you're gonna blindly send out friend requests to watch this, keep in mind that just because Bush is extremely unpopular doesn't mean that everybody thinks it's funny to watch videos of putting our President through a War Crimes Trial. I didn't look this shit up. It was sent to me, so, I've commented on this. Project anything you want on the guy, just don't expect me to think this is funny or clever.
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
Hey jeffbatt2000. I didn't post the videos just acted in them so I didn't know how they were being distributed or promoted. I even more appreciate you watching (sincerely) but would never put an expectation on you finding the humor whether you sought it out or not. Clearly you didn't appreciate the commentary written into the script which is intended as much more than just a comedy. The fact is those who made it feel he has done tremendous damage to the USA. A Country we all presumably love yes?
jimnieb 3 years ago
Third...
It is evil in mischaracterizing the efforts of the current administration as INTENTIONALLY nefarious. I have no doubt that Bush, who made such egregious errors that he deserved to be fired, did not do them with an INTENT to injure America.
DURound 3 years ago
You have got to be KIDDING me.
Bush may not have set out to injure the U.S. (not "America", unless you want to unclude Canada and all of Central and South America, or unless you don't think they matter), but he did NOT set out to do good for our country. He CERTAINLY didn't set out to do good anywhere else. ILLEGALLY and IMMORALLY invading and occupying another country for their oil is an "evil" policy; it is not "evil" to portray anyone as anything, as long as you believe it. Fascist.
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester,
Sorry, no I was not kidding you.
And I do believe he set out to do good for our country. At the time he made his decisions polls indicated that most democrats supported him. Were they set out to do evil for our country?
I think not. People make mistakes.
Making mistakes is not the same thing as being evil.
But, on the other hand impugning motives without evidence is evil.
Asswipe.
DURound 3 years ago
DURound, thanks for watching, but you're delusional. You might be right, bush isn't evil,he might just be a puppet. but he conspired w/the force of evil that is dick cheney & those who set about to keep the war machine in motion. "people make mistakes" lol... when "mistakes" result in the killing of thousands & imprisoning hundreds for no apparent reason -- that, my dear is evil. Bush participated-no way around it. He will live out his days in his personally created hell. That place w/no love
funwithwarcrimes 3 years ago
I think that Bush sleeps well at night. Those that are "imprisoned for no apparant reason" aren't killing Americans. I think maybe Bill Clinton can't sleep at night, knowing that he could have had bin Laden in custody from the Sudan and turned him down...
jeffbatt2000 3 years ago
As I said about Bush before, the democrats who supported the war aren't necessarily evil, but they were NOT trying to do good. Do you know who made the most money off of the war through investments? John Kerry, with almost $6 million over 4 years.
Democrats and republicans are the same. They don't pass legislation and take actions that are good for the people of the U.S. Rather, they respond to special interests and they cater to the corporate elite.
A stupid people is a good people.
aewester 3 years ago
aewester,
If you believe that the democrats who supported the war are not evil, why will you not extend the same benefit of the doubt to the republicans?
But I disagree with your view that a stupid people are a good people. On the other hand, stupid people are good audiences for this video.
DURound 3 years ago
That is exactly what I AM saying. The democrats, just like Bush, were not necessarily acting out of evil, but they did not have good intentions. They failed to look into the situation, and they didn't care that it might lead to tens of thousands killed and a country in ruins for NOTHING (except control of the oil-- Exxon, Shell, and 2 other companies are finalizing the contracts that give them control of the fields right now), rather than death and destruction to overthrow a dangerous dictator.
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester,
No, you precisely said that Bush acted out of evil motives. Shall I quote you?
Moreover you still say that their intentions were not good. Do you believe the Democrats intentions were not good? Do you think that they were trying to do "not good"?
As far as Exxon, Shell, etc, You seem ignorant of the facts. The companies that are making out in Iraq are Chinese, Russian, French and German, not US. This has been widely reported.
DURound 3 years ago
Yes, quote me.
You are correct. I think that the democrats' intentions are not good. I think that most decisions in congress are not genuinely and purely for the good of the American people. But, of course, that is what happens when you are governed by a plutocracy.
The companies are Exxon, Shell, BP and Chevron. They are finalizing no-bid contracts with Iraq's "oil ministry" RIGHT NOW that will give them access to the oil fields. They prevailed over almost all other companies for the deal.
aewester 3 years ago
Bash forced Iraq to pass the Iraq Oil Law, containing the PSA (profit sharing agreement) that guarantees foreign companies 70% of the oil profits, contrary to the UN resolution at the start of the war that declared all proceeds would go to the rebuilding and domestic needs of Iraq.
I don't really want to keep listing things here, and I don't have an organized list memorized, so I, again, recommend reading article XII in Kucinich's articles of impeachment if you want to see for yourself.
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester,
Production Sharing Agreements were not forced on Iraq. But Iraq needed them. They basically say "Oil companies will explore and drill.. we will pay them back... after that they get 20%" This is a way of getting investment in a very difficult part of the world. There is nothing evil, shady or illegal about this. No reason for impeachment. No law against it.
DURound 3 years ago
By the way, there is MASSIVE evidence to refute Bush's claims that he invaded out of concern for the U.S. (the people, not the corporations). Therefore, it is not "evil" to be "impugning motives".
See article XII of Kucinich's recently introduced articles of impeachment.
Search "Kucinich 35 articles", go to the first result and select "read all articles in a PDF". Article 12 is on page 24.
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester, if there is MASSIVE evidence, why is NONE of it reported? Why is that it is always ALLUDED to and ACCUSATIONS MADE but evidence... actual real evidence NEVER GIVEN? Come on now... its MASSIVE... it must be easy to come up with. You are a big boy... cough it up!
DURound 3 years ago
Sorry... there is massive evidence to *support the argument* that Bush went to Iraq for oil.
As for why it wasn't reported... The U.S. has a terrible media system, controlled by a few corporations. Tell me, why would a profit-based corporation have ANY reason to shake things up and make us question power, political or economic, as they are HEAVILY intertwined???
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester,
OK, if there is massive evidence of that, can you cite ANY of it?
No?
Ok.
Incidentally, (AGAIN) US corporations are NOT INVESTED IN IRAQ (how many times do you have to hear this). Its China, Germany, Russia, etc.
Whats wrong with you that you are ignoring this?
DURound 3 years ago
Ughh, you're really annoying. If you'd go find out for yourself, you'd find out that the most recent story on Iraq's oil ministry and its oil fields you'd see that Exxon, shell, BP and Chevron are FINALIZING NO-BID CONTRACTS TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THE FIELDS. Just go look it up yourself, please, and stop asking me what's wrong with me for giving you accurate, up-to-date information!!
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester,
Yeah. I am annoying. Pesky asking for facts.
You do not seem to be thinking this through very much. Sure oil companies are negotiating with them to help explore, drill and refine oil. Who else is going to do that? Do you think that should be Sony Music doing that? Or Mazaratti?
BUT... even though they are negotiating... the major companies in Iraq are Chinese, German, Russian, etc. Not US. That is a fact.
DURound 3 years ago
Did you find out about the current deals being finalized that will give access to the 4 American companies for more than the next 30 years yet?!?!? This is what is relevant now.
aewester 3 years ago
Aewester, Why are these oil company agreements relevant to impeachment?
DURound 3 years ago
All I am saying is that the oil company agreements, the secret task force, maps of Iraqi Oil fields, deliberately conferring Bin Laden with Iraq, the oil company executives running the white house, the Pentagon propaganda campaign in the media to push the ewar, the "WMD" lies, etc. represent evidence that Bush DID NOT ACT OUT OF THE INTERESTS OF THE U.S. AND ITS PEOPLE. I happen to think that if all of this IS TRUE, it was an evil act, but there is no base for the claim that he was doing good.
aewester 3 years ago
AEwest: All I am saying is that ....Bush DID NOT ACT OUT OF THE INTERESTS OF THE U.S. AND ITS PEOPLE.
Answer: Except that there is ZERO evidence that any of this is valid.
DURound 3 years ago