Polly's therapist is sounds so stupid " I notice that a couple of you are having a hard time making it through the meal today. I wonder what is going on"...What do you think? pizza is one of the scariest of foods for someone with an ED. She sounded so condescending.
Polly needs to stop smoking, gain 10lbs and get out in the world, she's hot - so is the girl at the start, is she spanish or something? She's tidy too... damn.
4.5k to babysit snobby 30yr old brats who don't appreciate their family's concern or wallet.That's the only tragedy here. Every time they open their mouths it's; "me, mine, i want, i need, i feel, blah blah blah" Awfully entertaining though.
@YashaClone It's not exactly supposed to be entertaining, it really sucks to see food as just 'fat' or just a number of calories as supposed to delicious. It's a serious condition, but I agree that 30 year olds should take more responsibility for themselves.
@AnarchicFantod There are other videos on youtube that show successful centers helping patients beat anorexia/bulimia. They basically tell them to suck it up and eat. No excuses. People who live around these patients ALLOW them to wither and die. Anorexia and Bulimia warps the mind into that of a stubborn 5 year old. Parents and loved ones need to step in and force them, yes, FORCE them.
@YashaClone I don't see how that relates to your first comment, but you're right. I agree that that would be a better way to go about this than they do in this clinic. However I'm not sure if being forced to eat in a clinic, will help them to cope when they're released. But I guess the results would probably still be better than what we've seen here x)
forcing them to eat there is more chance of them purging it if there forced to eat something really unhealthy, i just think this unit is abit of a sham like there not interested in peoples recovery just the money that has to be handed over
awe i want that tattoo when i'm done with renfrew :) i just have to finish this time. i couldn't finish it before because i was scared of the meals just like any other patient, i'm sure.
I think maybe her eating the pizza would be a good thing to get over. Like therapy on its own. Because its what led her there and her being there she can defeat that step.
I hate how insurance companies can dictate a person's treatment or how long they will need. It isn't right! A doctor should determine that.
But I don't understand why Polly, who seemed so motivated, would break small rules deliberatly (smoking in her room, giving her meds to someone else). I wonder if she liked being at the clinic and that's why she said she would stop eating or purge. May she rest in peace now.
The irony on this show is pretty sad. Polly got a tattoo meaning recovery, then she ended up dying :( . Does anybody know how she died? Was it an anorexia related death?
we had pizza day while i was in treatment. We also couldn't have like the tiniest bit of water. They are letting her drink a whole glass! Anyways, Renfrew should be ashamed of themselves. They are not helping anyone.
Insurance is the worst when it comes to the mental health system. "Oh you're not activity suicidal anymore? Okay you're done!"
If they expect people to actually get better and not keep going in and out of hospitals, they need to not kick them out as soon as they show signs of improvement.
The food thing...Lucailey is right. Every treatment center I'm in pushes healthy food but then there's always like "let's get pizza for dinner!" or "here's cake for so and so's birthday!" Eating foods like that for celebrations or fun with friends or just to enjoy in general is a part of being "normal" with food. Don't pig out on junk food all day but it's fine to have a cupcake or slice of pizza every once in awhile. That's "normal."
Well, I mean, obese people exist in the world. Whether anorexics are in an ED facility with obese staff or not, they've seen obese women before. But for most anorexics, becoming like other obese people isn't a fear...it's an image in their own heads which is causing the problem. 'Normal'-sized women would also fear-inducing for anorexics. Anorexics don't fear obesity; they fear food and weight, period.
The food they serve at this place is disgusting. I also agree with the staff. Seriously, it's like placing someone who is afraid of spiders in a locked boxed filled with tarantulas.
I can't believe they charge $1,500 per day (and this was a few years ago). It's all well and good for the staff to say "we won't discharge you that quickly" - Polly and her family would be the ones stuck with the bill.
Okay,it's considered "okay" to tell a skinny petite person that they are "too skinny"...But it's sooooo "Rude" too say a fat person needs to lose weight...Fat people can pick on us but we can't say anything about their weight(not that I would) but just saying.We live In a messed up world.:p
It's nice to see that Polly had a good support system and that her Mom really wanted recovery for her. Having people who love and support you is crucial.
Im a guy but i understand and respect these women for the struggle they go through, people dont understand a monster can take hold of u and not let go. people just judge, i dont.
Why do they get recovery tattoos when they haven't recovered just quite yet? That's something I'd do, but only when I complete my goal! not in the middle of it, unless you use it as some sort of inspiration!
I've been in an eating disorder clinic 5 times now. Most of the times we got healthy food, but sometimes we got something like fries, pizza or pancakes. Just to makes us less afraid of food like that. Apparently it's normal to eat unhealthy, sometimes. Not every day, but they wanted to show us that you don't gain weight just by eating pizza once in a while. And it's true... The scale didn't show anything strange after us eating pizza for one day...
@calinnero I hope you got a good experence out of Recovery. I almost had to go last year, but we didn't have the money. I gained weight since then, but now I am back to Restricting. I suspect I will be forced into outpatiant sooner or later - I might message you for advice, K?
having fat nurses is better than having skinny nurses :) and i dont think they should be eating cupcakes and pizza everyday, but they shouldnt have healthy food everyday either because thats what leads to eating disorders
it's probably required they finish the food in front of them but i see that they drink an awful lot of water during their mealtimes... I wonder if it's by choice they do that, maybe they think of throwing up afterwards...
I see a lot of comments on here about Obese people treating these patients. First, quit saying "obese" people like we're some kind of our own species. Second, please note that not all "obese" people are unhealthy in their eating habits. I know "obese" people who eat just as healthy as the next thin girl. There are diseases, hormone or sugar imbalances that can cause people to gain weight. So, for those of you who are.... quit bashing obese ppl. Because I do EAT HEALTHY!
@cheekypants321 OMG I'd forgotten about that!! I actually cannot eat flapjacks without puking because one time, I had a whole box, threw them up again and made some pretty deep cuts on my legs.... maybe they had forgotten that Polly attempted suicide after eating pizza...?
No, it isn't insensitive. A person without an eating disorder isn't going to stop eating apples because they ate one before they fell down the stairs one day. The point of therapy is to be able to eat without certain foods triggering certain behaviors.
@cheekypants321 Eating disorder hospitals do terrible things to you. One I went to had staff that purposely made you really really upset because they thought it would develop coping skills.
@HauntedMusicBox2 Oh yes! you're absolutely right. They did the same thing to me when I was in treatment for severe E.D back in 2007 when I was 17, there was this ''big bitch'' working there that centered me out one night and starting screaming at me for being a ''coward'' and kept justifying herself for yelling at me because in her words she was trying to ''instill coping skills''. Here I thought it was uncommon for them to do this, thank you for telling me otherwise.
@cheekypants321 its called desensitization ...they do it so that after a while u come to realize that pizza, wat shes eat wont make bad things happen to her
People keep commenting about how the staff is having the people eat pizz and cakes. Well, because things like pizza and cake are part of a normal diet. Now, I am not saying that they are healthy. I am saying that these people have to be able to function when presented with typical foods. If they are going to fell appart over a slice of cake or a bit of pizza then, they are not well.
actually, healthy foods for people with eating disorders ARE the same as healthy food for the rest of the world.. you can get the same fats sugars carbs protein from pizza and cupcakes as you can from fruits nuts vegetables fish chicken. and yes, some of the women WERE obese and its very very difficult to be treated by women who are unhealthy in their eating habits as well ( believe me I've been there.) Obese and overweight people can be just as unhealthy as underweight people.
I don't understand eating disorders like, I don't understand how society is influenced to eat healthily and these people are forcing them to eat crap like pizza and cake, surely they could influence them to eat healthy foods in a higher quantity, instead of throwing them in at the deep end. No matter what, they will never see pizza or cake and things like that as foods they want to associate with... which is good? Surely. I don't understand. So confused.
just because someone "looks healthy" does not mean they are healthy emotionally. women at normal or even overweight weights have eating disorders and tendencies. a person doesn't have to appear emaciated to be suffering.
Been Bulimic for 4 yrs and for me its part of my life its a coping mechanism for me and leaving that part of ur life behind doesnt happen over night so any 1 going through an ED Be blessed!! U 2 Polly : )
i think my favorite part of this whole documentary is "I think alot i am very stressing guy" and then when the fat lady says "do i look like i have the secret?!" lol
been bulimic for about 5 years when I binge at times I cant even taste the food depending on what Im eating then the purge makes me soooo good its like smoking some good weed or drinking your fave drink 10 x over @ times I may not eat for 3 days knowing if I pur ge the 4th day purging will be easier but bulimia is more about emotional issues than food it self Ive dealing with low self esteem, rape as a 9 y/o, my dad's death he passed away 10 yrs plus, my mom being ill bulimia is powerful
The issue is while the food seems OTT junky, the aim is to get the body to a healthy weight again asap. from personal experience therapy is lost on someone whose brain can't function due to starvation. starvation/purging does change the brain. (I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of places won't take medically unstable patients?).
@EllenJ0207 just a guess but I would think that when you are that malnutritioned the body doesn't react the same way to things like that, immune systems could be low and a tattoo is a wound.. it could infect, or maybe cause some other kinds of health issues.
This place is a joke! They let the patients get away with WAY too much! Yes, I do know that no treatment center is perfect, and that there will always be ways to circumvent the rules, but when so much rule breaking is going on to such a degree that means the system is seriously flawed and the only ones who suffer are the patients.
...that guy was pissing me off....way to like encourage their eating disorders 'why..why are they tryin to make you fat.' like......u could just be like....'oh well at least your healthy, and your not fat' ....guys are so dumb
All this talk about the nurses being "obese" okay...
If the nurses and staff were "thin" would they inspire the girls to be like them? their own thinspo. If they're "obese" then they make the girls not want to be that way? they don't want to be that way anyway. Obesity is everywhere, it's not that easy to get people willing to work in these places with the right skills, so you get what you're given, some will be big so won't like real life. Get over it and don't be so ignorant.
@COBHCBloodJunkie666 Yeah but if they were just healthy, it would actually give the girls something good to look at. Making them look at fat nurses as the norm just triggers them into feeling like they look that way or that that is how they will look when they are recovered.
@glic6616 If they look at slim people they will be inspired to look slim, if they look at curvy or larger people they will be inspired to look less like them. Thing is some girls may perceive someone who is "slim" to be big, whereas others will perceive them to be inspiring/slim. Normal doesn't exist.... if it did different people would perceive it differently. Whereas healthy ranges, a lot. I myself am a size 4 naturally and healthily, you can be a size 20 and healthy
@COBHCBloodJunkie666 Right but showing them women with muscles and an active, healthy LIFESTYLE would be more beneficial. Putting them around a woman who jokes about her own fat and people who sit and eat junk food all day is not encouraging.
A) Is it a good idea to have obese women employed at a center for eating disorders and in direct contact with patients who are near death from *their* eating disorders?
B) Why are cupcakes and pizza literally forced down patients' throats? Those are the very foods that DO lead to obesity. Why not create a healthier menu with more things like fish and vegetables? Pizza and cupcakes are "toxic foods" even for those of us *without* an eating disorder.
@UltraDeb Because A) They chose this job and they are not going to do discrimination by not hiring obese people.
B) when they will be back home they will have to face moments where they will have to eat pizza and stuff with friends and family. And for your birthday you have a cake thats whats normal. They need to stay conected with the world.
So how about not criticinzing everything all the time and being aware that centers like that are rare and permited a lot of ppl to be cured.
@UltraDeb I think that they only show them eating foods like this but they do eat healthy foods there. Like when Brittany was eating with her mother it was a very healthy meal. They probably do exposures to fear foods [like they do in ALL treatments of eating disorders] and they have 3 deserts a week, and the cupcake counted as one of them and was for Polly's birthday :X
@UltraDeb A) Not a good idea. Anorexics will look at them & practically feel power over staying that skinny, so it'll reinforce their will not to gain weight
B) I think its got something to do with them being afraid of those foods. Cus a misconception about anorexia is that they eat nothing but an apple a day. Anorexics can actually eat a significant amount of food but still maintain a relatively low body weight becuase its too healthy.
@UltraDeb I think it is valuable for patients to learn how to eat "unsafe" food such as pizza, but not in the quantities that they are given in this center. They should be taught to eat these foods in moderation.
Well since eating disorders är psycic disorders I'm guessing that they are giving them the food they "fear the most" so they can see that they are going to feel fine anyway? And so they can break the walls of ED's. And the obese women imployed are mabey employed so that the patients can see that it isn't that bad beeing fat? I don't know for sure becaus I am not an ED-expert like the majority of the employees at this center, but then again I'm guessing YOU NOT EITHER? -.-
EDs have very little to do with the actual weight so no, having an obese person who has a healthy attitude about food and body image working closely with the patients would not be a problem. Not every overweight or underweight person has the unhealthy relationship with food that someone with an ED does.
I wonder if the diet is just the same food that any patient in a hospital would get? Some kind of reinforcement that the ED patients aren't eating a different or controlled diet?
And "toxic foods" is an oxymoron and the kind of thinking that contributes to eating disorders. We don't classify things that are toxic as food. We use these different nouns to describe different classes of ingestables for a reason.
@UltraDeb I was admitted into Renfrew of Philly two year ago, saw this documentary before I admiited myself and felt the same thing.
I've convinced myself that these overweight employees are due to circumstances beyond their control ie. doing whatever they can to loose weight but it doesn't happen, or exercising and eating right but their metabolism doesn't work so well, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right but I try not to judge. I'm mostly recovered now and I can't lie,
@afilteredview being told I'm unhealthy and underweight but other people was and still is a mindfuck. That's my issue though. Bottom line, these people are here to help...I'm grateful for it, if they weren't there I would have died. Knowing someone cares who isn't emotionally invested in you is an amazing thing
@UltraDeb I agree, they don't have to be eating such unhealthy foods but I do think that part of their recovery is trying to conquer the fear of these types of foods. If they never ate these foods, well, they would think that these foods are bad, which technically they are, but these people really don't need to worry about that!!! Yes, they lead to obesity, but are they concerned with the patients becoming obese?!? Definitely not!!
@UltraDeb well, All food are "supposed to fit" so, it's notlike they always are eating that, they just shows those parts because they're very hard to get through,
@UltraDeb They're trying to model what "normal" eating is like. The trouble is, I've been through eating disorder treatment, and am now recovered and I can tell you I had no idea what "normal" eating looked like when I was sick, all I saw was fat and calories, to me a "normal" meal was a binge. You just can't understand healthy, balanced, guilt-free eating until you're recovered. It only leads to frustration in the staff because it's "just pizza" to them, but to you it's devastating.
@UltraDeb that's exactly what I thought. they'd probably call me sick as well because I couldn't eat any of the food they offer there! on a side note, my family discriminates against me for not eating junk food or meat. people are really fucked up these days.
They gave her ONE cupcake... for a special occasion. How do you expect them to try to instill healthy attitude toward food without making them realize that sometimes they can have things like that? That's real life. Sometimes people eat pizza and cupcakes.
@livvyxo ya for sure it's sad that insurance is so messed up not giving people the help they need, a lot of people can't get treatment because they don't have insurance, eating disorders are serious disorders and should have coverage as much as any other health problems.
Why would you have a disgustingly fat person at a treatment center for anorexics? Haven't any of these "mental health professionals" acquainted themselves with the concept of a "trigger"? Because if anything was going to make me want to never eat again, it would be close, forced contact with someone who looks like a giant bag of diarrhea slung across an office chair.
@zEropoint68 I thought exactly the same thing. I don't have an eating disorder, but when I see obese people, it definitely scares me off anything even remotely fattening. That place should be staffed with people with HEALTHY bodies. Obesity is simply the other end of the spectrum of eating disorders from anorexia.
I like wen that big lady said does it look like i have the secret lol that was funny&the folks on the bottum saying sum about her can suck axx she was playing u jackoffs
I don't understand why they are forcing the women to eat junk food. Eating in general has to be hard for them. It seems almost like they're being force from one extreme to another. Surely it would make more sense to feed the women healthy nutritious food high in fibre and protein. If I had to eat the junk they are getting fed I would feed sick and bloated. It's weird that hospital food is so unhealthy in the first place.
I have no eating disorder, BUT, I have to say that the food they're feeding the girls really DOES look nasty. I love pizza; we make it all the time. That was gross pizza. And the food in the cafeteria is not much better looking-- the saccharine cupcake, or the underdone vegetables-- If the act of eating already feels like a punishment, then consider making them eat nasty food. I was in a psyche ward once (other reasons), and I lost a ton of weight there because the food was just sick.
you know, when the woman said the thing about the pizza, she wasn't saying that to insult polly and she isn't stupid. anorexics i guess (i'm not an anorexic) get overwhelmed by ingredients and obsess over what's in everything. she was trying to put someone at ease. you guys making the obvious joke of calling her stupid makes you stupid. come on. obviously the woman had a reason for saying that.
i don't know why they can't start eating healthy food. why force them to eat fattening stuff. they can learn to treat themselves to fattening stuff in the future. just get them healthy. besides, how are fattening foods good for people who barely eat?
@Jc22ny because you could mark yourself with something permanently triggering, people that do not eat properly might have a bad reaction to a tattoo, and simply the processes of getting that tattoo could be triggering because it makes you focus on your body.
this is not even good treatment, hey lets throw eating disorder patients in with a bunch of fat people and force them to eat greasy food. THERE JUST MAKING IT HARDER FOR THEM.
okay im not in this situation, but if I was, having overweight staff like they are showing would be discouraging. I would be afraid that if i submitted to the lifestyle being the promoted i would look like them.
The tattoo artists comments are sooooo potentially hurtful. I know I'd be thinking about them all day..."don't get fat." would send me into a complete tizzy.
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-Quit saying shit!
ha ha Polly's mom seems like a good woman. RIP Polly...
girl123interrupted 2 days ago
this is so sad but im proud of them for recoverin- What The Fuck 8:32
TheJenniMay 6 days ago
i hope her insurance company knows they murdered someone...they probably dont even care though. :'(
awesomeness9413 6 days ago
what i never got was why no tatto or piercings
cutie3395 6 days ago
Polly's therapist is sounds so stupid " I notice that a couple of you are having a hard time making it through the meal today. I wonder what is going on"...What do you think? pizza is one of the scariest of foods for someone with an ED. She sounded so condescending.
umassigkap 1 week ago
Polly needs to stop smoking, gain 10lbs and get out in the world, she's hot - so is the girl at the start, is she spanish or something? She's tidy too... damn.
scottylans 1 week ago
@scottylans Polly died.
suus14 1 week ago
@suus14 I got too tired last night and haven't finished watching this documentary... that's pretty shitty :/
scottylans 1 week ago
4.5k to babysit snobby 30yr old brats who don't appreciate their family's concern or wallet.That's the only tragedy here. Every time they open their mouths it's; "me, mine, i want, i need, i feel, blah blah blah" Awfully entertaining though.
YashaClone 2 weeks ago
@YashaClone It's not exactly supposed to be entertaining, it really sucks to see food as just 'fat' or just a number of calories as supposed to delicious. It's a serious condition, but I agree that 30 year olds should take more responsibility for themselves.
AnarchicFantod 2 weeks ago in playlist Thin
@AnarchicFantod There are other videos on youtube that show successful centers helping patients beat anorexia/bulimia. They basically tell them to suck it up and eat. No excuses. People who live around these patients ALLOW them to wither and die. Anorexia and Bulimia warps the mind into that of a stubborn 5 year old. Parents and loved ones need to step in and force them, yes, FORCE them.
YashaClone 1 week ago
@YashaClone I don't see how that relates to your first comment, but you're right. I agree that that would be a better way to go about this than they do in this clinic. However I'm not sure if being forced to eat in a clinic, will help them to cope when they're released. But I guess the results would probably still be better than what we've seen here x)
AnarchicFantod 1 week ago
Alisa is beautiful
alicedee100 2 weeks ago
forcing them to eat there is more chance of them purging it if there forced to eat something really unhealthy, i just think this unit is abit of a sham like there not interested in peoples recovery just the money that has to be handed over
SienMay 3 weeks ago
How come the cook and most of the nurses are obese? Tell pepole to get healthy but yet you are so far from it!
TheNicSpace 1 month ago 12
@TheNicSpace They aren't TELLING people to get healthy, most of the patients there it says are self-admitted, they made their own choice.
taylorsacracker 1 week ago
awe i want that tattoo when i'm done with renfrew :) i just have to finish this time. i couldn't finish it before because i was scared of the meals just like any other patient, i'm sure.
wepwnkittens4lyf 1 month ago
@wepwnkittens4lyf good luck to you :)
daymitzamelia 4 weeks ago
I think maybe her eating the pizza would be a good thing to get over. Like therapy on its own. Because its what led her there and her being there she can defeat that step.
megzieslol17 1 month ago
As these video parts go on they get less and less views. Part 1 was at 540k, by Part 5 it's now at 184k.
Gemmmmaaaaaaa 1 month ago
These nurses are very innapropriate.
madness1ification 1 month ago 6
The conversation between Joyce Quantavalli and Juan Garcia is absolutely brilliant
woodandjubb 1 month ago
I hate how insurance companies can dictate a person's treatment or how long they will need. It isn't right! A doctor should determine that.
But I don't understand why Polly, who seemed so motivated, would break small rules deliberatly (smoking in her room, giving her meds to someone else). I wonder if she liked being at the clinic and that's why she said she would stop eating or purge. May she rest in peace now.
Miss65boo 2 months ago 4
The irony on this show is pretty sad. Polly got a tattoo meaning recovery, then she ended up dying :( . Does anybody know how she died? Was it an anorexia related death?
VitalRegionsPlz 2 months ago
@VitalRegionsPlz Polly died of an overdose of sleeping pills
MsMisha81 2 months ago in playlist "thin documentary, Anorexia, eating disorder" !!!!!!!!!!! ;(
I'm so glad I live in Canada, so when I seek treatment it'll be free. It looks so expensive
cigaretteskinny21 2 months ago 3
That guy at 8:31 scared the shit out of me.
emilyish101 2 months ago
Pizza is now a vegetable. Chin up, guys!
hellalujah1 3 months ago 4
this treaters are horrible!
kristenellie 3 months ago
we had pizza day while i was in treatment. We also couldn't have like the tiniest bit of water. They are letting her drink a whole glass! Anyways, Renfrew should be ashamed of themselves. They are not helping anyone.
irisdec09 3 months ago 3
@irisdec09 Dehydration is not really healthy :)
callala 3 months ago
Insurance is the worst when it comes to the mental health system. "Oh you're not activity suicidal anymore? Okay you're done!"
If they expect people to actually get better and not keep going in and out of hospitals, they need to not kick them out as soon as they show signs of improvement.
xXBloodyVictorianXx 3 months ago 4
At like 6:25ish what the fuck was going on? Were they making fun of eating disorder patients or something?
tigerseyeproductions 3 months ago 6
The food thing...Lucailey is right. Every treatment center I'm in pushes healthy food but then there's always like "let's get pizza for dinner!" or "here's cake for so and so's birthday!" Eating foods like that for celebrations or fun with friends or just to enjoy in general is a part of being "normal" with food. Don't pig out on junk food all day but it's fine to have a cupcake or slice of pizza every once in awhile. That's "normal."
lollynyc 4 months ago 4
Well, I mean, obese people exist in the world. Whether anorexics are in an ED facility with obese staff or not, they've seen obese women before. But for most anorexics, becoming like other obese people isn't a fear...it's an image in their own heads which is causing the problem. 'Normal'-sized women would also fear-inducing for anorexics. Anorexics don't fear obesity; they fear food and weight, period.
lollynyc 4 months ago 5
The food they serve at this place is disgusting. I also agree with the staff. Seriously, it's like placing someone who is afraid of spiders in a locked boxed filled with tarantulas.
HollyJRocks 4 months ago in playlist *Movie* - Thin (Lauren Greenfield doc) 5
Omg that TAT Artist is pretty hawt xD when I'm older I'm gonna find a hot one, then get a TAT of a ant on my ASS! lol.... Jkkkk
psychojoker131 4 months ago
HORRIBLE clinic!
TheMsPerfectionist 4 months ago
I can't believe they charge $1,500 per day (and this was a few years ago). It's all well and good for the staff to say "we won't discharge you that quickly" - Polly and her family would be the ones stuck with the bill.
kbsydney 4 months ago 3
I'm not going to lie, but these therapists seem a bit shit. They aren't very supportive at all and come across as a bit aggressive.
hokeypokeypanda 5 months ago 19
Oh my God, it was so crazy to see the staff acting like that. Bitches.
julietteismclovinit 5 months ago in playlist Thin 3
Okay,it's considered "okay" to tell a skinny petite person that they are "too skinny"...But it's sooooo "Rude" too say a fat person needs to lose weight...Fat people can pick on us but we can't say anything about their weight(not that I would) but just saying.We live In a messed up world.:p
JesusIlove1994 5 months ago 2
It's nice to see that Polly had a good support system and that her Mom really wanted recovery for her. Having people who love and support you is crucial.
FrigidArtic 5 months ago
Im a guy but i understand and respect these women for the struggle they go through, people dont understand a monster can take hold of u and not let go. people just judge, i dont.
abooooff 5 months ago 5
that tattoo guy is an ASS HOLE. do you guys puke?? LOL? dick..
ClythiaMysticka 5 months ago 2
these therapists are stupid! they dont know crap!
carlycat101 5 months ago 4
i think Polly was the weakest girl of all in there..am not a therapist..but i think she needed more attention and care..
poor girl :(
GogoBlondeful 5 months ago
BTW, healthy eating is all foods in moderation. Pizza and cupcakes are only "toxic" and lead to obesity if you eat them to excess.
veevee306 5 months ago
i dont think they should allow smoking in the clinic
CurlyFries120 5 months ago
i think Joyce Quintavalli needs to eat a little less...
prettylilstarable 6 months ago
Why do they get recovery tattoos when they haven't recovered just quite yet? That's something I'd do, but only when I complete my goal! not in the middle of it, unless you use it as some sort of inspiration!
hollyfrangipani 6 months ago
Nice to know all the fat staff members think it's cool to make fun of the patients. REALLY professional.
yearsofindignity5 6 months ago 4
Pizza? Really? Even when I was "healthy" I wouldnt eat that. Well, "Healthy" is a realitive term, but whatever.
mismonty46 6 months ago
"Do I look like I have the secret? DO I LOOK LIKE I HAVE THE SECRET?! .... Nah." lol
maenyn 6 months ago 2
I've been in an eating disorder clinic 5 times now. Most of the times we got healthy food, but sometimes we got something like fries, pizza or pancakes. Just to makes us less afraid of food like that. Apparently it's normal to eat unhealthy, sometimes. Not every day, but they wanted to show us that you don't gain weight just by eating pizza once in a while. And it's true... The scale didn't show anything strange after us eating pizza for one day...
calinnero 6 months ago 24
@calinnero I hope you got a good experence out of Recovery. I almost had to go last year, but we didn't have the money. I gained weight since then, but now I am back to Restricting. I suspect I will be forced into outpatiant sooner or later - I might message you for advice, K?
mismonty46 6 months ago
having fat nurses is better than having skinny nurses :) and i dont think they should be eating cupcakes and pizza everyday, but they shouldnt have healthy food everyday either because thats what leads to eating disorders
ninasocoollike 6 months ago
it's probably required they finish the food in front of them but i see that they drink an awful lot of water during their mealtimes... I wonder if it's by choice they do that, maybe they think of throwing up afterwards...
shonhubble 7 months ago
Love this:
"Dude you should totally eat. You know what you should do? Eat six small meals a day instead of three, speeds up the metabolism."
God, and he says it so earnestly. LOL. Thanks, Sherlock.
beatrixn 7 months ago
This program seems about as good as the rehab programs in our jails.
Bricksmama 7 months ago
I see a lot of comments on here about Obese people treating these patients. First, quit saying "obese" people like we're some kind of our own species. Second, please note that not all "obese" people are unhealthy in their eating habits. I know "obese" people who eat just as healthy as the next thin girl. There are diseases, hormone or sugar imbalances that can cause people to gain weight. So, for those of you who are.... quit bashing obese ppl. Because I do EAT HEALTHY!
everythingwithsam 7 months ago 2
Does anyone else think it's kinda insensitive to give Polly pizza when it's what lead to her suicide attempt?
cheekypants321 7 months ago 220
@cheekypants321 OMG I'd forgotten about that!! I actually cannot eat flapjacks without puking because one time, I had a whole box, threw them up again and made some pretty deep cuts on my legs.... maybe they had forgotten that Polly attempted suicide after eating pizza...?
0sexiest0nerd0 7 months ago 5
@cheekypants321
No, it isn't insensitive. A person without an eating disorder isn't going to stop eating apples because they ate one before they fell down the stairs one day. The point of therapy is to be able to eat without certain foods triggering certain behaviors.
lesterclaypool1 6 months ago
@cheekypants321 And then wonder why it is hard for her to eat it?
kbsydney 6 months ago
@cheekypants321 Yeah it was... She unfortunatly ended up killing herself in 2008
BrittanyClaireMusic 5 months ago
@cheekypants321 Eating disorder hospitals do terrible things to you. One I went to had staff that purposely made you really really upset because they thought it would develop coping skills.
HauntedMusicBox2 2 months ago
@HauntedMusicBox2 Then you don't want help.
MyBarbaricYAWP22 1 month ago
@MyBarbaricYAWP22 I don't, actually.
HauntedMusicBox2 1 month ago
@HauntedMusicBox2 Oh yes! you're absolutely right. They did the same thing to me when I was in treatment for severe E.D back in 2007 when I was 17, there was this ''big bitch'' working there that centered me out one night and starting screaming at me for being a ''coward'' and kept justifying herself for yelling at me because in her words she was trying to ''instill coping skills''. Here I thought it was uncommon for them to do this, thank you for telling me otherwise.
Counterbrilliance 1 month ago
@cheekypants321 its called desensitization ...they do it so that after a while u come to realize that pizza, wat shes eat wont make bad things happen to her
coolysteph 1 month ago
@cheekypants321 Does anyone else think she needs to get over it? She's in treatment, right? Maybe that's why they did.
MyBarbaricYAWP22 1 month ago
@cheekypants321 gaaaa I think this unit is just really questionable tbh
SienMay 3 weeks ago
@cheekypants321 oh my god!! i forgot it was pizza that drove her to do that! they totally overlooked it!
ClythiaMysticka 3 weeks ago
@cheekypants321 not insensitive, but way too early.
suus14 3 weeks ago
Gibt's diese Doku auch irgendwo mit (deutschem) Untertitel? Das wäre genial.
Skaaaaadi 7 months ago
MY GOD the tattooist is HOT
ipesina 7 months ago 3
People keep commenting about how the staff is having the people eat pizz and cakes. Well, because things like pizza and cake are part of a normal diet. Now, I am not saying that they are healthy. I am saying that these people have to be able to function when presented with typical foods. If they are going to fell appart over a slice of cake or a bit of pizza then, they are not well.
Lucailey 7 months ago 79
actually, healthy foods for people with eating disorders ARE the same as healthy food for the rest of the world.. you can get the same fats sugars carbs protein from pizza and cupcakes as you can from fruits nuts vegetables fish chicken. and yes, some of the women WERE obese and its very very difficult to be treated by women who are unhealthy in their eating habits as well ( believe me I've been there.) Obese and overweight people can be just as unhealthy as underweight people.
Gemstone9400 7 months ago 2
"Lets tell Shelly and Kylie, we can trust them!" and in the end they were the ones who ratted both of the girls out! ironic...
girl123interrupted 7 months ago
I don't understand eating disorders like, I don't understand how society is influenced to eat healthily and these people are forcing them to eat crap like pizza and cake, surely they could influence them to eat healthy foods in a higher quantity, instead of throwing them in at the deep end. No matter what, they will never see pizza or cake and things like that as foods they want to associate with... which is good? Surely. I don't understand. So confused.
amandawkx 7 months ago
Shelly's so sweet. She looks a little bit like Anne Hathaway, with her laugh lines and all.
menaroma 7 months ago
just because someone "looks healthy" does not mean they are healthy emotionally. women at normal or even overweight weights have eating disorders and tendencies. a person doesn't have to appear emaciated to be suffering.
MsHalieann 8 months ago
Is it just me or does Polly look fine?...She, out of all of them looks the healthiest...
The other lady with kids also looks healthy.
atlasshrugged2u 8 months ago
Been Bulimic for 4 yrs and for me its part of my life its a coping mechanism for me and leaving that part of ur life behind doesnt happen over night so any 1 going through an ED Be blessed!! U 2 Polly : )
curvousblackwoman84 8 months ago
i think my favorite part of this whole documentary is "I think alot i am very stressing guy" and then when the fat lady says "do i look like i have the secret?!" lol
breecantsee 8 months ago
The pizza could've looked a lot healthier then it did
MissPonderosa 8 months ago
why aren't they allowed to smoke however much they want???
paddyleigh86 8 months ago
@paddyleigh86
Cos smoking kills your appetite and they cant risk anything that'll prevent them from eating when they're meant to be getting better
lottie2006 8 months ago
"just have 6 small meals rather than 3 big ones" if only it were that simple.
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curvousblackwoman84 8 months ago
@calamityjane1975 Shut up. You went through all of these videos just to insult people. You're 36, grow up. BYE
KaitlynHooligun 8 months ago
why cant they have tattoos and piercings?
SofiesRaun 8 months ago
I love her.
wolfwolfenstein 9 months ago
If those girls would replace the goal of being thin with something else, they would achieve a lot in life :)
agniukaz10 9 months ago
The issue is while the food seems OTT junky, the aim is to get the body to a healthy weight again asap. from personal experience therapy is lost on someone whose brain can't function due to starvation. starvation/purging does change the brain. (I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of places won't take medically unstable patients?).
watchthestarsabove 9 months ago
I don't get it, why they would get in trouble for getting tattoos?
EllenJ0207 9 months ago
@EllenJ0207 It's against the rules to get one while in treatment there.
DoriyaPosts 9 months ago
@EllenJ0207 just a guess but I would think that when you are that malnutritioned the body doesn't react the same way to things like that, immune systems could be low and a tattoo is a wound.. it could infect, or maybe cause some other kinds of health issues.
shonhubble 7 months ago
they feed them sh*t food there
EyesofGeisha 9 months ago
Polly reminds me a lot of Ashley Judd
namarie1511 9 months ago 4
Pauline reminds me a lot of Ashley Judd
namarie1511 9 months ago
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Wow...the tattoo artist. he's absolutely ridiculous.
JuliaHearts 9 months ago
This place is a joke! They let the patients get away with WAY too much! Yes, I do know that no treatment center is perfect, and that there will always be ways to circumvent the rules, but when so much rule breaking is going on to such a degree that means the system is seriously flawed and the only ones who suffer are the patients.
Buffheart 9 months ago
Treating the problem might be easier if they could get some of these women off the cigarettes
IWEBProductions 9 months ago
...that guy was pissing me off....way to like encourage their eating disorders 'why..why are they tryin to make you fat.' like......u could just be like....'oh well at least your healthy, and your not fat' ....guys are so dumb
michellerbn 10 months ago
pizza? really? thats NOT the kind of food you give people who are trying to be HEALTHY
bykrechik 10 months ago
@bykrechik It wasn't Pizza hut or anything, that looked like a very healthy pizza to me.
shwoopdaloop 9 months ago
Why can't they get any tattoos or piercings?
Geeneff 10 months ago
@Geeneff health reasons, expect. the facility doesnt want to be liable for infections and such.
safehouse123 7 months ago
All this talk about the nurses being "obese" okay...
If the nurses and staff were "thin" would they inspire the girls to be like them? their own thinspo. If they're "obese" then they make the girls not want to be that way? they don't want to be that way anyway. Obesity is everywhere, it's not that easy to get people willing to work in these places with the right skills, so you get what you're given, some will be big so won't like real life. Get over it and don't be so ignorant.
COBHCBloodJunkie666 10 months ago 5
@COBHCBloodJunkie666 Yeah but if they were just healthy, it would actually give the girls something good to look at. Making them look at fat nurses as the norm just triggers them into feeling like they look that way or that that is how they will look when they are recovered.
glic6616 10 months ago
@glic6616 If they look at slim people they will be inspired to look slim, if they look at curvy or larger people they will be inspired to look less like them. Thing is some girls may perceive someone who is "slim" to be big, whereas others will perceive them to be inspiring/slim. Normal doesn't exist.... if it did different people would perceive it differently. Whereas healthy ranges, a lot. I myself am a size 4 naturally and healthily, you can be a size 20 and healthy
COBHCBloodJunkie666 10 months ago
@COBHCBloodJunkie666 Right but showing them women with muscles and an active, healthy LIFESTYLE would be more beneficial. Putting them around a woman who jokes about her own fat and people who sit and eat junk food all day is not encouraging.
glic6616 10 months ago 4
I'm confused by the clinic's methods:
A) Is it a good idea to have obese women employed at a center for eating disorders and in direct contact with patients who are near death from *their* eating disorders?
B) Why are cupcakes and pizza literally forced down patients' throats? Those are the very foods that DO lead to obesity. Why not create a healthier menu with more things like fish and vegetables? Pizza and cupcakes are "toxic foods" even for those of us *without* an eating disorder.
UltraDeb 10 months ago 133
@UltraDeb I can't agree with you more.
555danzig 9 months ago
@UltraDeb Because A) They chose this job and they are not going to do discrimination by not hiring obese people.
B) when they will be back home they will have to face moments where they will have to eat pizza and stuff with friends and family. And for your birthday you have a cake thats whats normal. They need to stay conected with the world.
So how about not criticinzing everything all the time and being aware that centers like that are rare and permited a lot of ppl to be cured.
yasminekhayat 8 months ago 2
@UltraDeb I think that they only show them eating foods like this but they do eat healthy foods there. Like when Brittany was eating with her mother it was a very healthy meal. They probably do exposures to fear foods [like they do in ALL treatments of eating disorders] and they have 3 deserts a week, and the cupcake counted as one of them and was for Polly's birthday :X
KieraPokemon 8 months ago
@UltraDeb A) Not a good idea. Anorexics will look at them & practically feel power over staying that skinny, so it'll reinforce their will not to gain weight
B) I think its got something to do with them being afraid of those foods. Cus a misconception about anorexia is that they eat nothing but an apple a day. Anorexics can actually eat a significant amount of food but still maintain a relatively low body weight becuase its too healthy.
MissPonderosa 8 months ago
@UltraDeb EXACTLY!?!, I mean what IS that all about?...
atlasshrugged2u 8 months ago
@UltraDeb I think it is valuable for patients to learn how to eat "unsafe" food such as pizza, but not in the quantities that they are given in this center. They should be taught to eat these foods in moderation.
gustafsg 7 months ago
A) 1. those women are not obese. 2. its hard to find people to work in treatment centers
B) healthy foods for people with eating disorders is not the same as healthy food for the rest of the world
phoenix1237spoken 7 months ago
@UltraDeb
Well since eating disorders är psycic disorders I'm guessing that they are giving them the food they "fear the most" so they can see that they are going to feel fine anyway? And so they can break the walls of ED's. And the obese women imployed are mabey employed so that the patients can see that it isn't that bad beeing fat? I don't know for sure becaus I am not an ED-expert like the majority of the employees at this center, but then again I'm guessing YOU NOT EITHER? -.-
AssoBestaTyyp 7 months ago
@UltraDeb
EDs have very little to do with the actual weight so no, having an obese person who has a healthy attitude about food and body image working closely with the patients would not be a problem. Not every overweight or underweight person has the unhealthy relationship with food that someone with an ED does.
I wonder if the diet is just the same food that any patient in a hospital would get? Some kind of reinforcement that the ED patients aren't eating a different or controlled diet?
lesterclaypool1 6 months ago
@UltraDeb
Con't
And "toxic foods" is an oxymoron and the kind of thinking that contributes to eating disorders. We don't classify things that are toxic as food. We use these different nouns to describe different classes of ingestables for a reason.
lesterclaypool1 6 months ago
@UltraDeb I was admitted into Renfrew of Philly two year ago, saw this documentary before I admiited myself and felt the same thing.
I've convinced myself that these overweight employees are due to circumstances beyond their control ie. doing whatever they can to loose weight but it doesn't happen, or exercising and eating right but their metabolism doesn't work so well, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right but I try not to judge. I'm mostly recovered now and I can't lie,
afilteredview 6 months ago
@afilteredview being told I'm unhealthy and underweight but other people was and still is a mindfuck. That's my issue though. Bottom line, these people are here to help...I'm grateful for it, if they weren't there I would have died. Knowing someone cares who isn't emotionally invested in you is an amazing thing
afilteredview 6 months ago
@UltraDeb I agree, they don't have to be eating such unhealthy foods but I do think that part of their recovery is trying to conquer the fear of these types of foods. If they never ate these foods, well, they would think that these foods are bad, which technically they are, but these people really don't need to worry about that!!! Yes, they lead to obesity, but are they concerned with the patients becoming obese?!? Definitely not!!
luvvbugg225 6 months ago
@UltraDeb well, All food are "supposed to fit" so, it's notlike they always are eating that, they just shows those parts because they're very hard to get through,
lalamouse77 6 months ago
@UltraDeb They're trying to model what "normal" eating is like. The trouble is, I've been through eating disorder treatment, and am now recovered and I can tell you I had no idea what "normal" eating looked like when I was sick, all I saw was fat and calories, to me a "normal" meal was a binge. You just can't understand healthy, balanced, guilt-free eating until you're recovered. It only leads to frustration in the staff because it's "just pizza" to them, but to you it's devastating.
veevee306 5 months ago 3
@UltraDeb that's exactly what I thought. they'd probably call me sick as well because I couldn't eat any of the food they offer there! on a side note, my family discriminates against me for not eating junk food or meat. people are really fucked up these days.
Aaszehrer 5 months ago
@UltraDeb Point A: Yeah Exactly! I was going to say...
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shatteringglass100 4 months ago
They gave her ONE cupcake... for a special occasion. How do you expect them to try to instill healthy attitude toward food without making them realize that sometimes they can have things like that? That's real life. Sometimes people eat pizza and cupcakes.
shatteringglass100 4 months ago 5
The tattoo guy... omg <3. HAHA dude.
DisneyElphie07 10 months ago
Lol tatoo guy is awesome
hermeeown 10 months ago
I love Shelly!♥
Like, she's amazing.
Everybody else is,
but it's just Shelly's
personality I just
fell in love with. lol
squeeky95 10 months ago
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212gretalfoleser21 10 months ago 6
I can't believe they make people PAY for any kind of medical care. Poor polly. :( <3
livvyxo 11 months ago 5
@livvyxo It really is sad, but welcome to America. The more money you have the more "equal" you are. LOL :(
beatgirl07 10 months ago
@livvyxo ya for sure it's sad that insurance is so messed up not giving people the help they need, a lot of people can't get treatment because they don't have insurance, eating disorders are serious disorders and should have coverage as much as any other health problems.
edpinkgurl 10 months ago
Why would you have a disgustingly fat person at a treatment center for anorexics? Haven't any of these "mental health professionals" acquainted themselves with the concept of a "trigger"? Because if anything was going to make me want to never eat again, it would be close, forced contact with someone who looks like a giant bag of diarrhea slung across an office chair.
zEropoint68 11 months ago
@zEropoint68 I thought exactly the same thing. I don't have an eating disorder, but when I see obese people, it definitely scares me off anything even remotely fattening. That place should be staffed with people with HEALTHY bodies. Obesity is simply the other end of the spectrum of eating disorders from anorexia.
UltraDeb 10 months ago 4
I like wen that big lady said does it look like i have the secret lol that was funny&the folks on the bottum saying sum about her can suck axx she was playing u jackoffs
MzKissez8 11 months ago
these workers are fucking hypocrites. fat bitches.
lindsayhotmess 11 months ago
"Do I look like I have the secret!?"
No, fatty. You look like you're wearing curtains as a shirt.
Geez she's gross.
jamiegurl3 11 months ago 2
Does anyone agree that a tattoo is the LAST THING that they need?
polly10022 11 months ago
I don't understand why they are forcing the women to eat junk food. Eating in general has to be hard for them. It seems almost like they're being force from one extreme to another. Surely it would make more sense to feed the women healthy nutritious food high in fibre and protein. If I had to eat the junk they are getting fed I would feed sick and bloated. It's weird that hospital food is so unhealthy in the first place.
aeaglerivett 11 months ago
I have no eating disorder, BUT, I have to say that the food they're feeding the girls really DOES look nasty. I love pizza; we make it all the time. That was gross pizza. And the food in the cafeteria is not much better looking-- the saccharine cupcake, or the underdone vegetables-- If the act of eating already feels like a punishment, then consider making them eat nasty food. I was in a psyche ward once (other reasons), and I lost a ton of weight there because the food was just sick.
AJToad 11 months ago
Dear Tattoo Artist, don't give dieting advice to anorexics, I'm sure they know how to do it bettter than you do.
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simplyana123 11 months ago
when i describe pizzza all i can say is fuckin delicious!!!
GuruPePe33 11 months ago
you know, when the woman said the thing about the pizza, she wasn't saying that to insult polly and she isn't stupid. anorexics i guess (i'm not an anorexic) get overwhelmed by ingredients and obsess over what's in everything. she was trying to put someone at ease. you guys making the obvious joke of calling her stupid makes you stupid. come on. obviously the woman had a reason for saying that.
89cosmo 11 months ago
i don't know why they can't start eating healthy food. why force them to eat fattening stuff. they can learn to treat themselves to fattening stuff in the future. just get them healthy. besides, how are fattening foods good for people who barely eat?
89cosmo 11 months ago
ugh the tattoo guy.. SO triggering and mean :/ If that was me I would have started crying
JanniPink 11 months ago 2
why cant you have tatoo or piercings when youre in a eating disorder program?I dont get it.///how does that interfere with treatment?
Jc22ny 11 months ago
@Jc22ny because you could mark yourself with something permanently triggering, people that do not eat properly might have a bad reaction to a tattoo, and simply the processes of getting that tattoo could be triggering because it makes you focus on your body.
TheBluebarbie19 11 months ago
this is not even good treatment, hey lets throw eating disorder patients in with a bunch of fat people and force them to eat greasy food. THERE JUST MAKING IT HARDER FOR THEM.
MightBlackLung 11 months ago
"What do you guys do? do you guys puke? are you those kind of people?" haha the tattoo artist is a fucking imbecile
KaitlynHooligun 11 months ago 55
@KaitlynHooligun
The tattoo artist isn't an imbecile. He's someone with a limited understanding of eating disorders asking about them so as to learn.
An imbecile would be someone who would spout every single fact that he knows about EDs to two ED sufferers like he's an authority on them.
lesterclaypool1 6 months ago
I fucking hate America's Insurance. Heartless country. FTS.
secretme127 11 months ago 4
okay im not in this situation, but if I was, having overweight staff like they are showing would be discouraging. I would be afraid that if i submitted to the lifestyle being the promoted i would look like them.
beatgirl07 1 year ago
The girl that was discharged died....
MissPonderosa 1 year ago 5
Why the heck is the tattoo guy giving them tips to lose weight?
Chameleon0091 1 year ago 4
The food that they eat doesn't even look appetizing.
Chameleon0091 1 year ago 6
The tattoo artists comments are sooooo potentially hurtful. I know I'd be thinking about them all day..."don't get fat." would send me into a complete tizzy.
ktar007 1 year ago 4