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  • This is the dumbest title I have read by far... ahhh ah!

  • Very good video man!! Well put!!

  • (off topic) but type the word misandry in any way youd like and you will get a little red line bellow even if you spell it correctly, the word isnt even recognized by most spell checkers. But type the word misogyny its recognized by ALL spell checkers. like mens issues, its not recognized but womens issues are recognized OVERTLY. I mean wow, children ur wallet & EVEN the small things? feminist need to stfu to even out the scale & i dont just mean the spell check scale either if u get my drift

  • Women are only victims when they primarily govern a fear based conscience, the same applies for men it's time we as people become accountable for our own actions.

  • In my opinion as a BM, I see that we suffer the most out of any group including women. Women have the most benefits out of all minority groups and in my opinion, women aren't a minority group at all. Where I live here in Minneapolis, MN, most of the corporate jobs downtown are held by women yet they will still claim that they are oppressed because of their gender. Hilarious !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @YoungnRomantic And a white woman's oppression 100 years ago involved staying at home all day and doing whatever she wanted in the house while someone else worked to make money for her. Thank God they were saved from such terrible oppression.

  • @CopsUrMasterAndLord That's what I said. Women were never oppresed in western society. Its all a lie. Feminism=Sexism !

  • @morph995 Feminism was all about driving a wedge between men and women and starting the gender war.

    They made women mad at men by accusing them of things they never actually done.

    They also made it out that not having a job is demeaning for women.

    It gone from being allowed to work, to that you must work.

    There is women I known that were shamed by feminists because they did not have a job.

    Does not really sound like women's liberation does it?

  • If you're a man, the chances of you being sentenced for a crime you commit goes up 165%, the gender sentencing disparity is actually the biggest disparity out there right now.

    You want the stats, I got them.

  • @ManSpeakOut I agree and women do nothing about it

  • MAN, YOU ARE A TRUE BROTHER. AUTOMATIC THUMBS UP! AUTOMATIC LIKED VIDEO! AUTOMATIC FAVORITE! AND AUTOMATIC FRIEND REQUEST! THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!

    But BEWARE! Black American women are going to hate you for speaking the truth like this. WELCOME TO THE WAR FOR MEN'S RIGHTS!!!!!

    Keep up the good job, Brother!

  • This is fantastic. Women are going to find out what life is really like once the oil is gone.  Peak oil will be the wakeup call for feminists.

  • Great point about oppression. Any truly oppressed group wouldn't have to keep being told they're oppressed, they'd know it.

  • this is not entertaining, nor enlightening.

    it IS kind of RedNeck-y.

  • @tomcornhole He seems very lucid in his commentary. Look at what you wrote and compare it to what he has said. Tom, you are an ignorant wanker.

  • @CopsUrMasterAndLord no, i'm not ignorant, you pig-fucker. i've been all around . the dude is trying to make some points that he does not have the vocabulary nor the eloquence to accurately describe. i get where he's going, and probably agree in some way with some of them."how do american indians know they're oppressed?" fuck this guy. pluralism nOT multi-culturalism.

  • I do tolerate blacks who love Yahuvah , and those who do are welcome to eat from my table and will be treated with respect.

  • And if you don't put some more base in your voice you'll be the next white guy rapped by blacks.

  • Division is a greek fraud, an optical illusion , males and females are no different to Yahuvah he is no respecter of persons wheather they be male or female.

    As for racism in america , why don't we start with the second generation of blacks I had to go to grade shcool with who jumped me after school all because they felt like they had the right to take over the school because they were wronged by white society.

    I'm not about to tolerate blacks , so you can prepare for black eviction.

  • Both Men and Women are oppressed, BUT Men are more oppressed. In a divorce, women get alimony, but men get nothing. All a poor women needs to do is look hot and many rich men will flock to marry her. Where as a poor man, even if he may be good looking, is pretty much doomed for his life unless luck happens. If a man doesn't get laid alot or a virgin, he's made fun of by the rest of the society including his own men. Whereas if a women doesn't get laid alot or a virgin, her friends got her back.

  • as a black man, i agree with u on most points. although i think afro-centrism at its extremist point but its needed to counter eurocentrism of mainstream america. everything else is divise. i think after white structural racism and black self-hate/genocide, feminism has come to cripple an already crippled community. keep fighting against community. white supremacy has benefited white women as it does white men b/c normally they are each others half. keep fighting, man.

  • And let's get real, most men feel superior or dominant compared with a woman. Women typically have smaller bodies and are viewed as the "softer" of the two.

  • @ImaginarYxGoddesS , I guarantee women when looking for a mate aren't looking for the meekest male figure to procreate with. So the inferiority issue you're stating is self-imposed, then you claim it as oppression.

    A woman will disregard any man who doesn't have the size, power, status, etc that they desire; but yet claim oppression from a man who does have it & wields it rather than relinquishing it to her.

    It seems women arent oppressed by men as much as they are from their own circumstance.

  • @SLICENSLASH Well said.

  • Boys do not pick the athletic girl over the athletic guy in gym class. If you don't enjoy cooking and cleaning, you expect the female to have those traits acquired. You feel like you're the one to hold down the real money-paying job. Even if you can justify the reasons for those actions, you KNOW there are underlying thoughts of dominance in his mind regardless, which is the same reasoning to unjust acts against women such as rape.

  • @ImaginarYxGoddesS What the hell is your problem? Women's brains are literally geared to lie, deceive, and generally be self-centered and irrational. Put that in your sexist pipe and smoke it: no one rapes anyone quite like feminists, who will take everything you have, provided that you're male. Your insinuation that men naturally rape is at odds with reality, as rapists among men are extraordinarily rare, and that's why feminists irritate me when they open their dumb traps: they're common.

  • I do think that it's definitely not as bad as it was in the past. There have been laws and changes, etc. You shouldn't really discriminate women who are feminist (which means they only want equal rights as men) because chances are they do have a story or stories to tell you about unequal rights. There isn't going to be sexism in every area, but I don't think it's completely gone.

  • You don't have to be told to your face "I'm sexist, woman make me a sandwich!" to feel like you're apart of an oppressed SOCIETY. Why are more women physically abused than men? Why are more women sexually abused? Why are women usually left alone to care for a child YOU helped create?

    Because men feel superior and are obviously built stronger than women. So they take advantage of that fact.

    Less women are in jail because the one person who isn't sexist towards women...is their judge.

  • White women acting like they're still oppressed in the states, where they have more rights than anyone at the moment, are an affront to people who actually are oppressed.

  • @kennit1000 I agree, but I'm not a failure. Women are oppressed in many counties. Just not Weston ones.

  • @EllieMarianna how are women oppressed in the western world?

    Let me guess you also "feel" that white women had it worse than the african americans here in america too?

  • @crh2010 I didn't say anything about race. Your taking it out of context. Women are no longer repressed in the Weston world, if you actually read my comment I was talking about the past, where they were repressed.

    P.S I'm not American. And no, I don't feel that women had it worse than the African Americans.

  • We are all oppressed by our egos.

  • Women WERE oppressed, no we have equality. You want proof? How about the suffragette's? Adam and Eve mentality?Women being forced to marry against their will? Women are still oppressed in a lot of other country's today, your a complete idiot.

  • *you're *you're *you're *you're

    a failure

  • Good you're wearing sunglasses so we wouldn't have to stare into the void that is you're brain.

  • Yep, the name of the game is DIVIDE & CONQUER. Not only does the state pit men against women, it keeps us guys fighting among ourselves, e.g., the chivalrous males vs the MRAs. Whether we guys are Protestant or Catholic, Democrat or Republican, black or white, we're all in the same boat; once we realize this, we can fight back & reclaim our rights!

  • Men commit suicide five times more than women and a good chunk of the time it's after a break-up. I think that's quite the obvious indication that this human suffering that feminists call "oppression" is not something only women experience. Women end relationships and almost literally break men's hearts.

    Now I'm not saying that men are "oppressed" by women. I'm just pointing out evidence that men on Earth do suffer just like women that are beat by their husbands do suffer.

  • i agree.women are not an oppressed group! in fact one of my pet peeves women-all women-pissing and moaning about inequality.i guess giving birth is a death sentence! yeh,right.thats it.

    i feel for men today.

    &God help

    children [male&female] born to feminists the biggest problem that society faces.

    LATCHKEYism

    personally i wish life was th way it used to be when i was a kid- women stayed home & raised children,keeping th home fire burning for workng men.extreme but thats me

  • feminism is a great idea theoriticaly but IN FACT it promotes sexism and hate. IS the same that happens with communism : in fact there never was "communism" (which is something realy good as a theory) but there was simply poor life for all & an "inside-country capitalism" baptised as "communism". I hope you understand what I mean

  • the idea of being victimised and look at men like your "enemy" is the dangerous thing for mankind. thats why feminism is dangerous too. it promotes that idea behind "equality". If I didnt love women I wouldnt suggest anything. I know how much evil feminism has made to their minds thats why I want to protect them.

  • equality is JUST MYTHICAL ! someone has to be on top all time... it is proved that women can be extremely dangerous when they get authority even if we talk about your gf or wife or about a country's prime minister. you know why? because women have that stupid obsession to be "victimised" all time without reason ! my english not so good but I think most people understand what I am talking about.

  • FEMINISM IS THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF HUMAN KIND... it destroyed my girlfriend's mind and she left me alone! I hate feminism and all those who support that sick idea!! why the hell are women supposed to be that "victimised" all the time???? why are they the "victims"? we are the victims and they have the power !!! TELL ME IF THERE WAS EVER A MAN IN THE WHOLE HUMAN HISTORY THAT DECIDED WHEN A RELATIONSHIP BEGINS OR ENDS ????? wake up and dont litter your mind!

  • feminism is about the idea that women are equal to men.

    how is that the enemy of human kind?

  • The places where women arent

    even allowed to leave their house without first covering their entire head and body. The places where they fear death if they raise their voices to a man - in protest or otherwise. Perhaps you havent broadened your view to the countries where women are literally

    seen and used as sex slaves. Or in common religion, Christianity for instance, where women are thought of as inferior, or as the servant of man.

  • I've never seen a society in which the women had a dress code and the men didn't.

    Never.

    Show me one place on Earth, no matter how remote.

  • The middle east and the cultures over their along with africa are horribly oppressive to women. But society and culture over thier is oppressive to everybody.

  • @Kirbywasfun:

    Hahahaha! "Oppressive to everybody"? Doesn't that mean everyone is treated equally?

  • @ABRIcations

    Yeah: Like shit.

  • oh, yea... my line of thinking strayed from the video

  • @TheEditorialist I'm black mixed with white/interracial mix , and what you say is right I've been discriminated against picked on, made fun of and bullied by blacks for being a light skinned brother, too proper, educated, so called white-washed, and for being adopted by white parents, than I was also picked on by whites and other people called a slave, lazy, the n word, etc, etc, and been looked down upon practically my whole life and still am, and I'm still not used to it, I shouldn't have to

  • @TheEditorialist But what you say is also true for white men as well, I've seen it first hand, by experience. And yes women are indoctrinated to believe they are oppressed when they are not. The have more freedoms/rights than men. Its digusting. I'll never get married, or have kids with a woman. I'd rather cohabitate and adopt. Thank You for all that you said, and I agree, fuck feminism!

  • @TheEditorialist in iraq, iran, afhganistan, egypt, ect. pretty most middle eastern countries on the other side of the pond.

  • So what you're saying is - it doesnt exist unless you yourself have experienced it?

    I believe you bring up some good points, however - I think your thoughts and opinions are very centric. You can only speak from your own experiences, and what YOU see on tv every day. But when your view widens, say to the rest of the world to Asia, and the middleast and many other countries. Where women are treated as second class citizens.

  • i believe he is speaking from personal experience.and THIS society.

    and he is on point

  • Your awesome man, keep it up...!

  • I have to say as a woman myself that i don't buy feminism anymore than i do choavinism. I'm a strong believer that men and women are both equal and opposite. Opposite because in our nature and qualities, and equal in our own special strenghths and weakenses. Good grief, when will will you all see past our corporial shells - on a spiritual level we are ALL the same!

  • @hellsingnutcase agreed irrespective of biological sex we all come in different forms, the physical vessel houses our soul and isn't meant to be analyzed to oblivion.

  • Well, there's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Although there's nothing funnier than a man scared of feminists.

    I've got one word for dude: intersectionality, a term that refers to the interlocking oppressions faced by women. Of course, he'd probably reject that argument since it's a term commonly learned at the college level (which equates to being "indoctrinated" and thus, exposed to knowledge that is apparently invalid in Dave's world...LOL).

  • As opposed to some other ten minute segment of your life that you will be getting back?

    "Although there's nothing funnier than a man scared of feminists."

    >>If your neighbor sees Jesus in a piece of toast and you cast aspersions on his holy toast, then obviously you're just some chick who's afraid of god.

    Of course if your neighbor minored in divinity at Yale, you dare not reject his faith in toasted miracles because it was learned in college.

    Yeah...

  • Hahaha...I could listen to you talk all day. Dont stop..you rock.

  • Ask a female you might know if they or somebody they know has been a victim of rape or sexual assault. I just recently watched your video on Debord's spectacle and consider how the female body is portrayed in the spectacle. I would say that female bodied people are "oppressed" psychologically at the least.

  • Of course they will say it to start drama or get attention, watch a womans face change after asking her "have you been raped or sexually assaulted?". It's less often true than it is said it is, look at any statistics. Crystal Gail Mangum is a hoe even thought the evidence was against her and her prosecuting attourny got fired for distorting the facts of the case, still wrote a book how she was raped. Men are accused of raping or sexually assaulting more than it happens.

  • I see what you're saying here, and to some extent, I can possibly agree to some of what you said. I was talking about the female body as portrayed in the spectacle of society. Consider checking out Guy Debord or other Situationist texts for a better grasp. I couldn't fit an explanation in the allotted amount of spaces.

  • I accept all you say AND I would add that (our) problem with feminism isn't its claims on women and the female body etc...

    The problem is its radically one-sided notion that all problems are women's problems. Society gets people to be worker drones by:

    1) Opressing men one way

    2) Opressing women another way

    3) Getting them to blame one another and fight each other so they never see the true source.

    Women are seen as disposable sex objects

    Men are seen as disposable emotionless robots

  • I would agree AND add that this is half the story. They are no more oppressed than men are.

    The reason men get so annoyed by feminism, is because its institutionalized whining. Its a group listing all the disadvantages of being a woman, WITHOUT recognizing the disadvantages of being a man.

    Society oppresses both in differing ways. We (intelligent guys) escape our oppression by personal development and building character, they (feminists) try escape oppression by asking for laws to protect them

  • I Agree With Everything You Say

  • You my friend are a credit to men everywhere.

    I don't hate women. I love women. But women like the ones from feministing are subhuman. Even my girlfriends think so.

  • How many feminists have been killed or incarcerated ever? Its because they rode the coattails of the civil rights movement, thus allowing black people to take the fall why they safely stood in the background.

  • exactly coolwatter

  • @c00lwatter

    Correct. Also, modern feminism arose from the women's KKK.

    And black females are traitors to their race for siding with white females rather than blacks.

  • This is a perfect example of why newspapers and professional journalists will survive.

  • You are funny. You are correct about some information but your "logic" is really screwed up. You make assumptions that are not very strong.

  • I speculate that a lot of the female of the species' complaints about oppression boil down to the female nervous system being different to the male. What is normal - coping with disappointment, risky situations, danger, etc. - tends to stress women. They've basically been sheltered by men, and are now quite retarded.

    The only solution is to leave women alone, let them make mistakes, and let them evolve to cope with reality.

  • In short. Ironically the same "liberation" that feminist have toted all these years from the male oppressors has been, in fact, protection from themselves. Now women are free to oppress themselves and, of course, instead of seeing what they are doing to themselves they are blaming and being coddled by lawmakers (mostly men), many of whom actually ARE doing if for pussy.

  • You don't need to be in jail or dead to be oppressed. And do you really think black people are in jail for being black, rather than a crime? I don't know why that is "state oppression".

    And most white women don't claim to be "oppressed", they clame to be discriminated at work, in school etc...

  • Obviously you know your history. *sacrasm*

  • Note to whom it may concern.

    This guy (editorialist) blocks many people (even men) when they have proofs or good rebuttal. If they agree with him fine. If he feels he can delete enough of their words to win his argument (which has huge glaring holes) he deletes. Or he blocks. I guess he has a real strong premise? I wonder if he just only has so many words or concepts and cannot debate in the prime time world.

  • Hello, white knight. Have you come to save the day?

  • Sorry, no can do. I have a date with the fish up North.

    ...problem with guys like editor....

    He needs to get out fishing, huntin', etc. quit harping that women are taking over.

    Give the gals their space, they only want a decent job, life. Some women are not great, don't worry about them. Many don't want the real male world. . Fishin' guttin' elk. . Some gals fish/ hunt, they are rare, but they earned their place.

    I don't have time for guys that whine. (or gals for that matter.)

  • "I don't have time for guys that whine. (or gals for that matter.)"

    ********I'm willing to carry any debate on this subject to the comments section of your channel anytime you're man enough.

    WTF, dude. Weren't you just whining that I deleted some stellar rebuttals...

    Which btw, is a baldfaced lie and just to prove it I'll debate all of these great rebuttals with you or anyone else in YOUR channel comments section anytime you think you're 'man enough.'

    Regards,

    Ed

  • I'm a black man and I was compelled to post a coment . you keep it real man. Your so right.

  • Youre so right man I am an old guy going back to college ill graduate end of next semester. While in school I have had to follow the party line to get along. It is crazy I am in my forties and I have to listen to this mindless drivel.

  • great video....keep a bug up thier ass man. i know they like it.

  • I agree feminism is out of control

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  • I noted the discrepencies as a young girl in how boys and girls were treated.

    Why don't you listen to women with personal testimony?

    Tons exist.

    I got it from female teachers as well, that boys needed the higher education over and above girls.

    But I did not do things by blaming and getting angry or mad at men or the society of old. I did it by real study the best possible of history. Laws were changed to reflect the change of attitude toward women in society. Not all, but many.

  • Ok, give the examples. Let's see what they are.

  • Oh yeah, and prove how you worked 3 times as hard as men. That should be interesting.

  • Many people take years to realize or hone themselves to such levels. Or they try to simplify their life and start enjoying the earth and respecting the earth, a new life unfolds as to what is important.

    Hippies, religious, aetheists, professionals, simpler peoples etc, all people. There are no restrictions as to who does this or who is capable of undertaking such a way of life.

    Does not mean they eschew all materialism, but they put it in its rightful place as to importance.

  • Great video!!! (standing ovation)

  • ****

  • LOL!!! " Is there anything else that might give it away!" LOL

  • The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that women still only make 80 cents to the dollar that men make. That notwithstanding, I wouldn't say we're "oppressed." If anything, we're the victims of a shallow society that sees women as nothing more than vaginas to fuck or tits to ogle. In that case, both men and women are equally guilty. Again though, that doesn't really equate to oppression.

  • "The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that women still only make 80 cents to the dollar that men make."

    *****

    If I could only find women willing to work for 80 cents on the dollar, I could run a business with labor costs that were far less than my male employing competition.

    Eventually, it could become a huge conglomerate that only employed women. I could run my competition into the ground.

    Why isn't this possible? Since women work for 80% of a man's wage, it should be possible.

  • Who said it's not possible? Furthermore, this isn't something I'm contending out of the clear blue sky, it's a fact. Maternity leave is one reason for this. However, it is found to be blanket-applied to many women regardless of whether they take maternity leave or not. That is unfair.

    Lastly, I don't know wtf makes you think we think we're being oppressed. Maybe a few fringe freakazoids, but none of the women in my life have ever complained about oppression. Inequity, sure, oppression, no.

  • "Who said it's not possible?"

    ***

    The market.

    If it were possible to employ women doing the same job, with the same skill level for less money, men would be priced out of employment.

    Companies wouldn't have to offshore work to India, they could simply hire women and realize a substantial labor-cost savings at home.

    That's not an economically tenable solution.

    Why? Because companies are forbidden by law from pay discrimination based on sex and thus cannot find women to work for less money.

  • It is possible in theory but the fact is that it's discrimination which is not tolerated in the work place. Women DO make 80 cents to the dollar. That is not conjecture it is a known fact. Why are you arguing against fact?

    Now, I have heard a fairly convincing case made that part of this is because women are absent from the work place more than men due to maternity leaves. However, this treatment is blanket applied to many women regardless of whether they took a maternity leave or not.

  • "Now, I have heard a fairly convincing case made...However, this treatment is blanket applied to many women regardless of whether they took a maternity leave or not."

    *

    Actually, it is the statistic that is being blanket applied to women, not the treatment.

    Show me a single, modern instance in which women are being paid less than their male counterparts, wherein the women have the same skill and experience level and occupy the same position within the company.

    I'm quite sure you can't do it.

  • oh and btw, all the men who are complaining about unfairness in courts after divorce.

    Equal rights clauses work both ways. I have a family member that is winning his court case after trying to deal with his exwife out of court.

    Sometimes the law works for all. However, it still would be much better to work these things out before it gets to courts.

  • Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

    "Schedule B

    Constitution Act, 1982

    PART I

    Canadian charter of rights and freedoms

    15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

    ....

  • 15 (2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

    These are the entries under Equality Rights. The rest is for rights of all Canadians under the constitution.

    For the good of all men, women and children.

  • In other words everyone's equal, unless they're on the special list. In which case, they're especially equal.

    And thus, there is no equality before and under the law. Subsection two negates the spirit of subsection one entirely.

  • Are you trying to play dumb here?

    Subsection ll is don't get all bent and caught up in the letter of the law.

    e.g. If you became disabled due to accident, but still were mentally capable of doing your job that allows you to make a necessary income etc, then your workplace has to provide a means for wheelchair access.

    If you are disadvantaged is the word to note. There are still tons of loopholes to prove being disadvantaged, but this protects all people.

  • That is only one tiny example in a sea of individual possibilities.

    It allows for people to have equal and fair access to the benefits and way of life our country has tried to provide, through our geographical, policital, economical and social structure.

    Stop worrying about whats in it for you, this allows people to deal with their own lives and situations, while still working within common sense mandates of a functional society.

  • So - is that fair for me to say, stop worrying about whats in it for you?

    Is the first thing you think of - well I am a special person too. Why exclude me?

    The letter of the law will protect you and hopefully the spirit of the law will be protected within peoples core sense of value systems. Because we no longer have a government ideal with A Christian based ideal.

    Is it perfect, nope! we still have a groaning debt and welfare system out of whack, but that is for another topic!

  • Don't try to rationalize subsection 2 to me. I know exactly what subsection 2 is about.

    The charter is written in plain English. I'm sure even a Canadian could understand it.

    It looks inclusive, but in fact is exclusive. Subsection 2 actually allows discrimination to continue.

    What would it look like without subsection 2? To me it would look like true equality. But subsection 2 destroys the promise of subsection 1.

  • Try more insults when people are having a discourse about a constitutional rights issue.

    Perhaps subsection ll was put in there because we all know there are still going to be jerks who want more than their share or there are still idiots in life.

    When you show me your law degree and you can write legislature better - then come up with something better for ALL people and situations.

    Is America doing fine for avoiding ERA.? You are all paying the price in different ways for that.

  • It used to take women a semester of Women Studies to "realize" that they're oppressed. But just show a man a list of the ways men are disadvantaged, and in 5 min. he's convinced.

    But despite an abortive attempt to get that toxic doctrine in K-12 40 yrs. ago, it was backdoored in 30 yrs. ago due to WS-trained teachers. Now even a 10-year-old girl can recite how "bad" she's got it. But a male (child or adult) can achieve that eureka moment in 5 mins. or less. (Unless they're a mangina.)

  • Did your mother stay home to cook, clean, deal with raisiing children and educating them. Did she do all this and run kids to activities, dentist, doctor, PTA committees, volunteer at Church or help when neighbours got sick?

    Did the father come home to a wonderful meal, fairly clean home (or sometimes spotless in spite of 4 children around). Did he do yard work, do vehicles, assist 50% at minimum with raising the children? Or did he come home wondering what his wife did all day?

  • I ask this for a specific reason. Or did the father come home after being at the bar, late for supper, expecting the whole house to run on its own.

    Or did the father stay late at work trying to make more money to raise the family, or did he stay at work due to out of bounds loyalty to the company.

    Don't get me wrong, some (very few) women took advantage of their position as housewifes in the old days, but very few had that luxury.

  • Women worked at home, men supported by working outside the home. They were both working for the good of each other and family.

    That was the so called ideal neucleus family of the mid 20th century that more than likely most of us grew up with?

    Bottom line:

    Women were economically and socially and lawfully beholden to their husbands right up until the 1950's to 1970's . But when educated or in the workforce women could make decisions for their own future. to be cont.

  • "Women were economically and socially and lawfully beholden to their husbands right up until the 1950's to 1970's ."

    *

    Was a man not economically and socially beholden to his wife.

    Indeed he was.

    It was and still is in most states a crime for a man not to provide for his family.

    A crime.

    Listening to these feminists speak of history, one might have the impression that the female was a slave to the male.

    But then you look at the pictures of the rich and poor, and see that it is not so simple.

  • It was also on law books that a man could *discipline* his wife. A woman was chattel of a man up to the 1970's.

    Chattel?

    You do understand the meaning of the word "chattel". She was the property of a man.

    That is a far cry from not providing for a wife.

    Many times (and still in some countries) women were very similar to slave status toward a husband.

    I am not saying North Americans, but radical muslims are suspect.

  • "It was also on law books that a man could *discipline* his wife. A woman was chattel of a man up to the 1970's."

    *

    I have heard it, but I've never seen it.

    I have access to a copy of the Virginia General Statutes from 1912...and if only I could find the chapter and verse in which women are referred to as chattel and wife battery is regarded as lawful disciplining.

    If you have a women's studies textbook that alleges these things, would you please make a citation available.

    I'd like to see it.

  • Laws of marriage prior to 1970s. included the edict of Coverture. Derivitave: feme-covert or foemina viro co-operta.

    Coverture was the doctrine of law employed for legalities of marriage in early history of England, the U.S. and Canada and other countries. Coverture derived from ancient ideals (Christianity notwithstanding) that women were (and some still believe this) that women are chattel of a husband.

  • At one time, marriage in the U.S and Canada automatically placed the woman in coverture and she gave up her rights to transact business or maintain property rights etc. The marriage contract in most States (and Canada) had the married couple as becoming one entity. That being of the husbands (entity or identity). She also was under the direct authority of her husband and could not sign legal documents without his consent. She became non existent in the eyes of the law.

  • Whereas single women in America were given more independence and rights much earlier, but once married her husband had rights for both of them and she no longer could act in her own name.

    We are thankful that this is no longer law, but how did that come about?

    Common law also dictated a husband had rights of chastisement. I will have to come back and post on that later to dig up cases to this defense..

  • A semester of womens studies more than likely tells a story of the women in her family line. Just stories coming together.

    History was written by men let us not forget. Some women can get radical and for good reason at times. But women have had to fight in their own way for rights in American society let alone societies of the world at large.

    Read about how women had to gain the vote. Men have had struggles too, but of a different kind at times. We can all get along if we try you know.

  • "A semester of womens studies more than likely tells a story of the women in her family line."

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    What about the women in his family line?

    What about the men in hers?

    It's one thing to point out sex discrimination from the past, it is quite another that the female is then conditioned to personally identify with it.

    My family tree and my sister's family tree are absolutely identical. She can identify with the female half as she chooses, but that is only half of her story...and yours.

  • I said tells a story, but should have said. Herstory rings a bell with women in her family line as what some may have experienced.

    What about the men in her line? It is about women and their journey. It is not a family tree lesson.

    We learn about men all the time in school and courses. It was HIStory for 1000's of years with smattering of women discussed from a male perspective most times. Now a course in herstory and men get all worried.

  • And you hit it right on the head. What about the men in the history books or average persons life etc?

    These courses are about women moving through HIS story and from her perspective now. Is it all the gospel. No, it is still perspectives from different women in different areas of the country or the world. No different in a way than people discussing the history of their peoples or culture. If we want to learn about men and history, we can do it from tons of classes, books and works.

  • Do you know the etymology of the word 'history'?

    Do you realize that the male poss pronoun 'his' only occurs in the English language, yet the words histoire and historio occur in French and Spanish?

    Thus when you attempt to translate the word herstory into a foreign language it doesn't translate properly. It's rooted with a false cognate.

    'Historia' is a Latin word. But 'his' is not a Latin pronoun.

    The two words are not related.

    Linguists know how ridiculous it is. And now you know, too.

  • Herstory is a neologism coined in the late 1960s as part of a feminist critique of conventional historiography. In feminist discourse the term refers to history (mistakenly restated as "his story") written from a feminist perspective or told from a woman's point of view.

    **The word history, coming from the Ancient Greek ἱστορία, or historía, meaning "a learning or knowing by inquiry", through the Latin historia, is etymologically UNRELATED to the possessive pronoun his.)**

  • I understand how the word herstory evolved.

    I also understand how history is a composite of many works and collaboration of different perspectives of study. Archeology, anthropology, written works, study of languages etc.

    Greek and latin have some similar roots. You forgot to quote a few more highly revelant words in the root of the word history.

    histor: "wise man, judge," *his* is a slightly different matter, but still the base is to designate a possessive pronoun for male

  • Masculine: he, hine, his, him

    Feminine: heo, hio, hie, hi, hire,

    Neutral: hit, hit, his, him

    Plural: hie, hi, hira, heora, him, heom

    Linguists know the difficulty in exact meaning of words. However, prove that the bible was written from a female and male perspective or that history scholars were female. Then you may have a point.

  • Therefore the word *his* is not a neutral presentation in the ancient works,

    Majority of words (probably 100% by year 2300 B.C. were written by men, for men, predominantly about men, with women's points and experience interpreted from a male view.

    No scholar will refute this. History speaks for itself at that point. Especially when men killed people to get rid of female presence in religion.

    Who was the male god of the bible so jealous of?

    Astarte (fertility goddess).

  • Correction. No scholar will refute that by 2300 B.C. (early civilizations) the works were written predominantyly by men.

    Examine AFTER that point. Questions of the day.

    Study the female scholars of history before 10th century - 16th cent. - 19th and 20th century.

    When, where, how and who wrote? What did they (women) write. Who promoted/encouraged women in these endeavours?

    Don't worry, I don't know all these answers, yet! ;) But certainly something to work on and discover.

  • Anna Comnena wrote The Alexiad. You can find a digital copy online.

    Off course, she was wealthy, as was anyone who could read or write in those days.

    Perhaps instead of arguing over whether to call it herstory or history, we should be debating whether to call it richstory, since all of this history was written either by the wealthy or by their employees.

    Perhaps we should demand a poorstory.

    But feminism is largely a bourgeoise movement, so I won't hold my breath waiting for a poorstory.

  • As for Anna Comnena and your research. Merci beaucoup!

    Agreed - We have to move toward identification of societal concepts of history. How about "ourstory". ;)

    But your argument is based on the concept that women had all these rights and could manage well in past centuries.

    Whereas real history tells us this is not so for the most part. Making this distinction is critical, so as not to deny history, but to embrace the fact that we have made great strides in advancements for all.

  • Have American woman made such strides if the government will not pass an equal amendment law?

    Canada, New Zealand, The Netherlands, Australia etc...have all made such strides with laws. Legislation is about finally putting into words, sections and articles, what common laws tend to promote through discovery of what works, what is fair etc. .

    Definition of equal rights is not just about women, but all people in our society.

  • If American feminists wanted it (the Equal Rights Amendment) they would have it by now.

    The US doesn't need a convoluted equality law. the United States needs the ERA.

    But we're at a point now in which codified equality would actually impinge on prerogatives.

    It's funny because feminism gained it's  legitimacy in the 1970's fighting for the ERA.

    But once the movement became institutionalized, they dropped it.

    Nobody really wants equality anyway.

    As organisms we're programmed to "get ahead."

  • I do not believe that is an accurate portrayal of why the ERA has not been enacted. Perhaps congress and senates have a lot to do with making it more complicated than it has to be. That is only one explanation. There are more, but lets keep it simple, shall we.

    I will quote the Canadian Charter of Rights statement regarding equality for all Canadians and let all discern if it is convoluted.

    Equal rights has not been dropped. It is just put in all the piles of to do lists. ;)

  • Your comment about "get ahead". Perhaps some people see not only the futility in such a way of life, but that working for a greater good benefits all.

    Some people have discovered, worked and realized that there is more to life than just or merely "getting ahead".

    Is this possible or perfected in people who ideally want to strive for such things. Not usually.

    But it may be worth discovery of that type joy and reward that comes with such a way of life.

  • "Perhaps some people see not only the futility in such a way of life, but that working for a greater good benefits all...Some people have discovered, worked and realized that there is more to life than just or merely "getting ahead""

    ******

    Perhaps some people do work for the greater good. But unfortunately, those are not the people who set policy, bankroll social research institutions, lobby congress et cetera.

    Unselfish people don't get very far in a materialist society that worships money.

  • Unselfish people get quite far in a materialistic world. You don't hang out with that crowd as is evidenced by your videos.

    Be around people who are not caught up in materialism. They balance or even eschew advantages available with modern technology, but without huge attachments.

    It exists, not perfectly, for no human on earth is perfect.

  • Unselfish people are ones we don't see or hear about or understand why or how they work in life. We hear about these unsung heros many times after their deaths. They quietly go about their work with humility, patience, fortitude and many purposely avoid the spotlight or accolades. God desires that people should do good things without expecting things in return. I am not talking about a days work for wage and sustenance, but other efforts that one undertakes to negotiate and move through life.

  • Oh and a person who does not show their eyes in discussion or presentations? Eyes are highly revealing. I would like to see this man create a video without sunglasses.

    Eyes are the window to the soul.

  • "I would like to see this man create a video without sunglasses."

    *****

    What you'd like plus three dollars will buy a cafe latte at S-Bucks.

  • regresseur. Be cautious of the claim that boys are more likely to be molested than girls.

    One report: girls are at minimum 33% of molestation rates compared to 18% of boys.

    "The National Centre for victims of crime". is only one site, but appears to hold little gender prejudice.

    Abusive homes perpetuate abuse in varying degrees and forms for about 4 generations. Discovery as to HOW to squelsh this deviancy is the critical issue.

    Awareness/education is just the beginning.

  • The TRUE face of feminism is that nowadays they consider Emmett Till, the 14-year-old black boy, whose gruesome torture/murder sparked the civil rights movement activism, a common SEXUAL HARASSER. And Carol Bryant, the white woman who instigated the murder, is seen as a sexual harassment "survivor."

    ...and, of course, the white women in the mobs, who pelted the black kids during desegregation, are today seen as an "oppressed minority."

  • I totally agree with you 100 percent. The sad part is that organizations like feministing think that they are doing America a favor by releasing their inane futile b.s such as " fuck you ... [name here] or " 80 years ago disney did this". I hope that more strong people such as yourself stand up to this feministing shit.

  • What 'other' history? History is another area of knowledge that someone was able to write down as truth. It's hard to say what exactly happened or how things were interpretted if we weren't there. We can only look at documented cases and laws to see where power was located and where values were concentrated. Measuring ppl on their economic contribution to society is pathetic... but in a consumer driven society.. this has been the road.

  • We can only look at documented cases and laws to see where power was located and where values were concentrated.

    >>It was located in the hands of rich people. What sex they were is hardly important since they were all married and all RICH.

    Measuring ppl on their economic contribution to society is pathetic... but in a consumer driven society.. this has been the road.

    >>That road went from an 8 lane highway to a gravel road very quickly.

    And look there's nothing but a rope bridge up ahead!

  • In regards to big truths... and isn't that what I am asserting... When you think about any 'truths' and any 'knowledges' from history. We in the West have developed and progressed on the experiences of White Men. They had the authority and legitimacy since leisure time began. Women was kept out of the discourse.. until recently history wise. Women began to be seen as equal only based on their production value in society in the 40s.  Their valuewasnt authenticated until there was a movemnt

  • "Women began to be seen as equal only based on their production value in the 40s."

    >>In what white man's history did you learn that? You learned that from some other history. Is this other history true or false and how do you know?

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    "Their value wasn't authenticated until there was a movement"

    >>Their value as what, humans? And what is a human by this feminist definition? Someone who creates value? Value for whom, the shareholders?

    What a pathetic valuation of a woman's life.

    Or a man's.

  • Feminism or creationism or whatever 'ism' you want to use.. is a useful 'lens' to view the world. It aids ppl to put themselves in those 'others' shoes. It's not the end all be all. It's a specific tool.

    * A particular tool is only helpful if you are trying to get at something that only that tool can provide. Some tools will be somewhat useful with perserverence and maybe some damages to the door or roofing shingles, for example, while other tools get the job done (and make the point).

  • "Feminism or creationism or whatever 'ism' you want to use.. is a useful 'lens' to view the world...It's a specific tool."

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    Yeah, the only problem is, when all you've got is a hammer (feminism) everything looks like a nail (oppression of women)

    Too bad it's such a commonly used tool. The society we're working with doesn't have that many nails.

    Have you ever tried to hammer a screw? That's what we're getting from feminism lately.

    jmo

  • To feel oppression or to recognize injustices as such, you have to see justice and equality right? As you mentioned, as Black ppl get older they become more visible to oppression in their personal lives... For women it is the same.  Ignorance and youth is acceptable and prevalent for all. You can't really be an expert on being a visible minority or a woman. I think your emotions are interfering with your logic... Some of your points are interesting, but why worry about looking like a fool?

  • "As you mentioned, as Black ppl get older they become more visible to oppression in their personal lives

    >>That's not what I said

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    "... For women it is the same."

    >>Do you really think so? How would we measure, by age group, the number of women who have quit identifying themselves as oppressed?

    It's been my personal experience that women become less credulous to this social hypothesis as they get older.

    Modern feminism requires the naivety of youth.

    It's like any belief, in that regard.

  • You obviously feel threatened at the proposition that 'women are oppressed'... Your argument based on a binary comparison of Black oppression is interesting, especially in looking at the numbers in prisons etc.. BUT, oppression takes many forms... some more visible than others. Some ppl do not want to be aware and some do..

  • "You obviously feel threatened at the proposition that 'women are oppressed'"

    >>How I feel is hardly relevant. Though in fact, I have few feelings and a sense of even fewer threats.

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    "oppression takes many forms...some more visible than others."

    >>Sometimes oppression can be so invisible that one is left wondering whether it even exists.

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    "Some ppl do not want to be aware and some do."

    >>Some machines are easy to program. Others are much harder. Especially if they don't want to be programmed.

  • You 'judging' any group why or why not they are oppressed based on your perceptions shows me that you seem to think you know all and feel all. Interesting how you want to call yourself.."editorialist" Makes it easier to sell your propoganda without recourse? If you had called yourself the "new Jesus" or 'Gods Messenger" you could mobilize only a few radicals right?

    -- Questioning is always good, but be humble Mr... you or anyone else cannot proclaim some big truth!

  • You assert that neither I nor anyone else can "proclaim some big truth."

    But isn't this very assertion of yours an attempt to "proclaim some big truth?"

    As for judging the world based on my perceptions...yes I'll admit it, I do use my senses and intellect to guide me.

    I will not be made a fool of by manipulated statistics supporting a harmful, sexist philosophy/world view foisted on a naive, accepting audience by scheming and manipulative ideologues.

    I encourage you to do and be likewise.

  • you make some really great points in this video i never thought about it that way

  • You sir, are the truth.

  • Some southern towns once held "n——r barbecues."

    White men, women, and children gathered in their Sunday best to make a picnic out of the lynching of black men, and subsequent mutilation and burning of the bodies. Pictures were taken and "souvenirs" distributed.

    I suppose the white women in attendance were OPPRESSED "cuz dey hadda make da sammiches."

  • That was very good. Thanks for the video. Fuck feminists.

  • badass man!

  • Truth, simply the truth my dude. Great vid

  • Black men commit violent crimes. White women dont. And when they DO they don't get punished as severely. Not because theyre white, but because they are WOMEN. It's fucked up. Neither one of them are opressed.

  • The number of men (white and black) who are currently incarcerated in America for non-violent offenses is staggering.

    If the only black men in jail were those convicted of violent offenses, the jails would be practically empty.

  • Thanks for the post, it was provocative.

  • women are oppressed in a very different way than men are. both black men and women are victims of oppression, but the outcomes can be different based on their respective situations. and i disagree about ur view on WW. WW recognize discrimination as they get older and try to get jobs or move up in the corporate world. and white women are not treated as badly as black people. that is a FACT. she is a white man's crown jewel so he will not set up a system that will result in her being locked up

  • "i disagree about ur view on WW. WW recognize discrimination as they get older"

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    In my experience it's been the other way around. As women get older they begin to see human relations and social structures for what they really are, untinted by bogus social theories and poorly grounded political ideologies like feminism.

    In other words, feminism is for children. Unless a woman can make a living at being a feminist (as a social services bureaucrat or some half-baked academic) she drops it.

  • Oh yes, and then there are the older males and females who embrace feminism because the majority of their offspring are female. Thus, it is to their biological advantage to promote female chauvinist law and social practice.

    But of course, these motives are highly questionable, since they're not ethically or philosophically grounded.