@BelieberFROMgreece yeah!!!! but she is amazing anyway:D She is so cool, I love her for she is, her personality :X She is.........fucking awesome singer !!!!!!!:X I wish meet her, is my dream:))) haha
@TheCezara933 yeah she is awesome..i listen to her since i was 10..she is my fav singer of all time..best of!...but im stupid cause my bro went to her concert and i didn't :'(
@TheCezara933 i was too younger and the tickets were expensive so only my bro and my cousin could go....i would give everything to go back in time and keep some money to go to see her :/
=/ she just seems bored here. She seems so fake. She used to be all grungy and moody, now she's all pretty and girly and I've seen loads of pictures of her now with her boobs hanging out of her clothes. I mean, I know people change (not necessarily a bad thing) but, wow, there's a major difference with her, it makes me wonder if any of it was ever real...shame, I really liked some of her older songs.
@AndreasSudihardjo I guess he did. He seems to be sader (?) than her :/ I mean, if you read the lyrics of the whole album Screaming Bloody Murder, and the lyrics of "What the Hell", everything's here ...
@lilsoso2000 He didn't say that he wrote a song for her, but when you read the lyrics of SBM and when you know that he just broke up with Avril, and that he said he wrote it during the darkest part of his life, then you can think that it isn't a coïncidence ...
i think you she was much better when she was younger now she sings a little off key. She doesnt put her whole heart into it like she did when she was younger. I would love to marry her though hot hot hot!
@hotroddy97 I just had that same thought when I saw this, her pitch has gotten higher for some reason. The song sounded more meaningful to her when she was 18.
@MotionXfatigue > thinkit had something to do with what she was having to work with/through - as to the sucking reference - lucky hubby - WWaaayyyyyooooooooooo!
Her original songs revealed herself, her heart, her needs and fears, now she seems to be simply being a star...doesn't suit this girl...hope she finds her ways back to that self that spoke for so many, brilliant singer writer.
I'm almost certain she's one out of many celebs who lie about her age. I could have sworn she was my exact age when she first made the scene but now she's 5 years younger than me? Not buying it. She looks young enough to get away with it and it might appeal to some of her fans that she's "closer in age with them." But I want someone to really investigate this. I would but don't have the time on my hands. I say she's 31, give or take a year or two.
I think you can't say that Avril got better or worse. She's a woman now, (eventhough she acts sometimes like a teen, it's so cool about her:)) and she doesnt have the problems anymore that she had when she was a teen. I mean, the songs in het Sk8erboi-time were great and in some way epic! But she got in a new way, the popworld, and it fits her also!
Goodbye Lullaby's gonna be her best album, i know it...WTH is the only pop song of that album, the rest's gonna be more UMS! Damn girl!
@LAVARYA You ask if I'm kidding about the tune of the song or about the not so good live performance?
Anyway, that's surely 1 step lower than the studio version. I don't think she would be able to sing that high on live performances. That's too bad... 1 step higher makes the music a lot better to my ears.
@schumiising her tone and voice might not be exactly the same, but she's already one of the best. try finding a celeb whose voice and tone is exactly the same as the one on the cd.
@schumiisking mariah has surely more skills than avril, but she waste her chances to sing live cause she lip sync almost everytime... or she sings onto a pre recorded version of the song.
avril has less skills then her, but she's working her ass out to do her best
i think you'll find mariah carey hardly ever lip syncs, watch any of her live performances, i haven't come across a single one thats lip synced, and you can tell its live because she does little things with her voice and plays with the tune slightly compared to the cd version.
i dont have anything against avril i like the songs, its just annoying that she sings this several keys lower than the studio version, is she that bad live?
Her voice has changed since this song came out. Not so much for the better I feel. Singers like she is now are a dime a dozen within country music. She used to have endearing faults and timidness in her voice.
@IanHoopz ok that's how the song is wrote! stop being one of those haters that hate her because she changed and got older! her voice matured and now that she doesn't sound like a little kid you think she's off key, personally I thik it was a great performance. I really can't get mad at you because that's your opinion, even though I think it's the most retarded thing I have ever heard in my life.
@cheergurl1017 20 years old and thats the most retarded thing you've ever heard in your life ... christ you must live in a box in the middle of Nowheresville.
Oh! You are horrible dana0489. I'm italian...avril is fantastic, but many dubit it!!! and this is a terrible error...sorry for my speaking, because I'm italian...infact I'm talking to the translator
Su voz ha evolucionado enormemente! Y en realidad me encanta con los dos estilos, punk o princess...La amo por lo que es y como canta, no como se viste (Aunque ame sus vestuarios jaja).
After girlfirend , she's sing many rock song , now, this show I think is better than befor , because I think she's many years haven't practice snow song.
I know what you mean. When I heard Wylie's Yahoo yodel at the end of it, I about lost it. I'm high as a Chinese kite and somebody has to throw something like that at the end of a serious video.
OH MY GOD she felt this song !!!!!!!!! i can't believe it's still little Avril i am so happy that i've wathced this video cause i saw real Avril she's still there inside, hiding...... great performance i felt it too..
unfortunatly she can't sing good live
GomerSexual 1 month ago
@GomerSexual what the hell is wrong with you?!?!?! this is amazing!!!!! burn in H*ll!!!!!!
pixiegals123 3 weeks ago
Avril Lavigne reminds me on my young age. :')
BelieberFROMgreece 1 month ago
She is amazing anyway........hate ppl who says "old or new Avril" is just Avril Lavigne guys!!! She`s 27 years old now...
TheCezara933 2 months ago
@TheCezara933 27? i don't think so...
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TheCezara933 1 month ago
@BelieberFROMgreece why not?! Birth name: Avril Ramona Lavigne
Born: 27 September 1984 [age 27] Belleville, Ontario, Canada
TheCezara933 1 month ago
@TheCezara933 wow...i though she was older :S.....but still she seems like 18 on the face :)
BelieberFROMgreece 1 month ago
@BelieberFROMgreece yeah!!!! but she is amazing anyway:D She is so cool, I love her for she is, her personality :X She is.........fucking awesome singer !!!!!!!:X I wish meet her, is my dream:))) haha
TheCezara933 1 month ago
@TheCezara933 yeah she is awesome..i listen to her since i was 10..she is my fav singer of all time..best of!...but im stupid cause my bro went to her concert and i didn't :'(
BelieberFROMgreece 1 month ago
@BelieberFROMgreece Why? You had the chance to go to see in the flesh and not you go?? God ... I would give anything to see it!
TheCezara933 1 month ago
@TheCezara933 i was too younger and the tickets were expensive so only my bro and my cousin could go....i would give everything to go back in time and keep some money to go to see her :/
BelieberFROMgreece 1 month ago
@BelieberFROMgreece aha! this is it! You will see here someday:D our dreams come true!!!:D
TheCezara933 1 month ago
@TheCezara933 :D i hope so...;)
BelieberFROMgreece 1 month ago
@BelieberFROMgreece me too
TheCezara933 1 month ago
woow so FUCKIN perfect
sofi3919 3 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de MancKev
aww she waves at the fan! how sweet! :')
lovestruck383 3 months ago
watching her singing this song..its like a company.. like shes with us. life sucks now sigh
2ZongHappy 4 months ago
=/ she just seems bored here. She seems so fake. She used to be all grungy and moody, now she's all pretty and girly and I've seen loads of pictures of her now with her boobs hanging out of her clothes. I mean, I know people change (not necessarily a bad thing) but, wow, there's a major difference with her, it makes me wonder if any of it was ever real...shame, I really liked some of her older songs.
spidess111 4 months ago
Deryck Whibley didn't know how lucky he was
AndreasSudihardjo 5 months ago
@AndreasSudihardjo I guess he did. He seems to be sader (?) than her :/ I mean, if you read the lyrics of the whole album Screaming Bloody Murder, and the lyrics of "What the Hell", everything's here ...
MrEnat22 4 months ago
@MrEnat22
no,avril wrote remember when 4 deryck
but he didnt write a song 4 her ,....did he ?
can u tell me the name of the song
cuz i dont know it !!!
lilsoso2000 3 months ago
@lilsoso2000 He didn't say that he wrote a song for her, but when you read the lyrics of SBM and when you know that he just broke up with Avril, and that he said he wrote it during the darkest part of his life, then you can think that it isn't a coïncidence ...
MrEnat22 3 months ago
i think you she was much better when she was younger now she sings a little off key. She doesnt put her whole heart into it like she did when she was younger. I would love to marry her though hot hot hot!
hotroddy97 5 months ago
@hotroddy97 I just had that same thought when I saw this, her pitch has gotten higher for some reason. The song sounded more meaningful to her when she was 18.
daii4lyf 5 months ago
avril is a PERFECT singer!!!!!!!!!!!
TheKaile1234 6 months ago
I wish I was with you. :( <3
22Charile 6 months ago 16
she is still the same, only sings with higher notes this time,,
kaijinsheru11 6 months ago
She used to be so good now she just sucks.
MotionXfatigue 6 months ago
@MotionXfatigue > thinkit had something to do with what she was having to work with/through - as to the sucking reference - lucky hubby - WWaaayyyyyooooooooooo!
MrStefandowney 6 months ago
the backing singer bloke - ohhh dear oh dear - how is she coping with that?
MrStefandowney 6 months ago
the new avril singin song of the old avril? that's not good
SoDamnBionic 7 months ago
Her original songs revealed herself, her heart, her needs and fears, now she seems to be simply being a star...doesn't suit this girl...hope she finds her ways back to that self that spoke for so many, brilliant singer writer.
aussiness74 7 months ago
Gosh, she gives me goosebumps EVERYTIME!★
SmilingForBieberx3 7 months ago
she sing much better now after all these years!
DavidFDot 8 months ago 3
I hate the fact that she smiles on emotional songs! She didn't use to...
RosarioNahu 8 months ago 2
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adraekd1 8 months ago
Avril vc é de mais! ♥
MrVany1992 8 months ago
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I love u avril :)
yahooo985 8 months ago
El 24 de julio de 2011 VOY A CANTAR ESTA CANCION CON ELLA!!
magabarbii 9 months ago
L-I-V-I-N-G L-E-G-E-N-D ♥♥♥♥♥
TheQueenAvril 9 months ago
2:04, love that little smile she gave us, right there. :)
evannalynchje 9 months ago
why do people compare her to taylor swift? they are two amazing artists but are completely different! you just can't compare them it doesn't work.
iwanttobebritish77 9 months ago 2
the tumbnail looks like she's screaming at someone..
kaijinsheru11 9 months ago
I miss Evan with her ;(
GaBrIeLaAmOrIm590 9 months ago
Oldies But Goodies.
BullToTheShit 10 months ago 3
her voice got a lot better lol
laurag333 10 months ago
@laurag333 haha yeah i agree with u
5464kenia 9 months ago
She truly sings effortlessly, and my queendom for such a beautiful profile she has. Can't help but like her better this way than these days.
eringryffin 10 months ago
เสียงดีที่สุด .... !!
RLiwZz 11 months ago
She sings with so little effort, but sounds so amazing! :) Love you always, Avril. <3
U2LedZep 11 months ago
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I like her ! She's the best for me :D
KawaiReina 1 year ago
@LedWilde she was 16 just before her first album, so in 2001, and now she's 26 (10 years later)
JoshLNeville 1 year ago
I'm almost certain she's one out of many celebs who lie about her age. I could have sworn she was my exact age when she first made the scene but now she's 5 years younger than me? Not buying it. She looks young enough to get away with it and it might appeal to some of her fans that she's "closer in age with them." But I want someone to really investigate this. I would but don't have the time on my hands. I say she's 31, give or take a year or two.
LedWilde 1 year ago
@LedWilde
haha you're too funny, I think even she lied about her age, she's not 31....she's probably around 25 or 26 now.
zzzthaoster 1 year ago
@LedWilde hahahaha she is born in 1984 27 september. so, she's not 31.
RoosLevenlooz 11 months ago
i like it..
kenn409 1 year ago
Not quite as Orgasmic on the last part of the song as the studio version but an exxcellent effort just the same for a live version.
guytitanic 1 year ago
I think you can't say that Avril got better or worse. She's a woman now, (eventhough she acts sometimes like a teen, it's so cool about her:)) and she doesnt have the problems anymore that she had when she was a teen. I mean, the songs in het Sk8erboi-time were great and in some way epic! But she got in a new way, the popworld, and it fits her also!
Goodbye Lullaby's gonna be her best album, i know it...WTH is the only pop song of that album, the rest's gonna be more UMS! Damn girl!
Mitsiooh 1 year ago 13
i like it♥
Melanie1990mimi 1 year ago
Love the bum note in the first few seconds of the song ;)
Ignitionnet 1 year ago
She is quite a beauty !!!
imtoby1218 1 year ago
She looks really pretty fab ! She's so beautiful and the song is awesome ! Congratulations Avril ! You're fantastic ! :D
Jjzeild 1 year ago
OK whatever
LAVARYA 1 year ago
It makes me cry
simplegibson 1 year ago
1 step lower than the studio version. Love the CD, not so good live performances... =/
SergioMagluf 1 year ago
@SergioMagluf whaaaaat???? u kiddin arnt u ?
LAVARYA 1 year ago 2
@LAVARYA You ask if I'm kidding about the tune of the song or about the not so good live performance?
Anyway, that's surely 1 step lower than the studio version. I don't think she would be able to sing that high on live performances. That's too bad... 1 step higher makes the music a lot better to my ears.
Just a opinion =D
SergioMagluf 1 year ago
love this <3
heavenorhell1 1 year ago
PERFEITO!!!
PERFECT!!!
PERFECTO!!!
PERFETTO!!!
Avril Lavigne s2
jota5000jonathan 1 year ago
@smileypunkrockergirl I, absolutely do agree. Such a beautifull bad angel.
ferrahount 1 year ago
SO FUCKING BEAUTIFULL !
czaju101 1 year ago
yeah why did she marry that turd from that lowlife band SUM something..god they were awful..she was so good...geez..then she went LA
nowhereman2007 1 year ago
She had her nose thinned out and other work I'm sure.
Neilzy50 1 year ago
@schumiisking mariah carey lip sync. Avril doesn't. That's what make Avril such a great singer.
AvrilRamonaRocks 1 year ago 2
i believe i was at that show lol it was my first concert! i loved it
matermo14 1 year ago
@schumiising her tone and voice might not be exactly the same, but she's already one of the best. try finding a celeb whose voice and tone is exactly the same as the one on the cd.
MagicGalRocks 1 year ago
@MagicGalRocks
Mariah carey. go and youtube any of her performances, she sings at the same tone as any of the cd versions.
0WNED.
schumiisking 1 year ago
@schumiisking mariah has surely more skills than avril, but she waste her chances to sing live cause she lip sync almost everytime... or she sings onto a pre recorded version of the song.
avril has less skills then her, but she's working her ass out to do her best
Budino092 1 year ago
@Budino092
i think you'll find mariah carey hardly ever lip syncs, watch any of her live performances, i haven't come across a single one thats lip synced, and you can tell its live because she does little things with her voice and plays with the tune slightly compared to the cd version.
i dont have anything against avril i like the songs, its just annoying that she sings this several keys lower than the studio version, is she that bad live?
schumiisking 1 year ago
@schumiisking watch out... mariah is one of my favourite vocalist ever, along with aguilera and houston.
but, what i mean is that... often i cut her lip syncin... thas all...
avril sings some key lower but she can touch high notes either...
listen to "anything but ordinary" live at budokan...
Budino092 1 year ago
@MagicGalRocks
Celine Dion, Leona Lewis, Kelly Clarkson,
Don't get me wrong though, HUGE AVRIL FAN!!!
bloomwinxgirl 1 year ago
DIVAAAA *-*
patylloma 1 year ago
avril lavigne rocks xoxoxo
rainyseason1975 1 year ago
shame she doesnt sing it at the same tone as the cd version. fail.
schumiisking 1 year ago
@schumiisking She was sick
Blaire1990 1 year ago
@schumiisking
DougCameraMan 1 year ago
i think the best song she sings is nobodys home live
tzallica1 1 year ago
WOW, shes a georgious bird
mufferrs 1 year ago
simply Amazing
MArA22RiieNN22 1 year ago
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MrLadyzman227 1 year ago
who is the drummer?
akiziele0 1 year ago
Her voice has changed since this song came out. Not so much for the better I feel. Singers like she is now are a dime a dozen within country music. She used to have endearing faults and timidness in her voice.
Efreeti 1 year ago
not bad. her voice is mediocre, but she got good songs, and she performs well communicates with her audience.
mizzfox 1 year ago
Avril Lavigne you are my hero
this song i'm crying
i'm not happy
:(
but
Avril Lavigne give me power~
lkmn45 1 year ago 3
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
beatiful Music -..........=)
100jenifer 1 year ago
Lol the drummer looks drunk
jaguarforce 2 years ago
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She has a lot of good songs but in this video she sounds bad. I have on my channel a video with me singing if you want me hear :)
dana0489 2 years ago
@dana0489 your just way to full of ourself
Aletale9 1 year ago
Fantastic!!!!! I love you avril, by your fan Elly....kiss from Italy!!!
LauritaEsquivelFan 2 years ago
dana,, you sing good?
hahaha, upload video of you singing!!
she sing perfect!!!
sorry for my bad speaking, my from is argentina
solxiz 2 years ago 6
lol dude ... that was far from perfect, she was off key in loads of places.
IanHoopz 2 years ago
@IanHoopz ok that's how the song is wrote! stop being one of those haters that hate her because she changed and got older! her voice matured and now that she doesn't sound like a little kid you think she's off key, personally I thik it was a great performance. I really can't get mad at you because that's your opinion, even though I think it's the most retarded thing I have ever heard in my life.
cheergurl1017 1 year ago
@cheergurl1017 Thats the most retarded thing you've ever heard in yout live!? What are you? 12?
IanHoopz 1 year ago
@IanHoopz No, I happen to be 20 years old. I really think you should go listen to music that you don't want to criticize, which is probably nothing.
cheergurl1017 1 year ago
@cheergurl1017 20 years old and thats the most retarded thing you've ever heard in your life ... christ you must live in a box in the middle of Nowheresville.
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dana0489 2 years ago
Oh! You are horrible dana0489. I'm italian...avril is fantastic, but many dubit it!!! and this is a terrible error...sorry for my speaking, because I'm italian...infact I'm talking to the translator
LauritaEsquivelFan 2 years ago
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ya i think she sucks now. she sound so good back then.
soulreper345 2 years ago
The yahooo at the end was random!
crizlde 2 years ago 2
lol @3:50 where she can't hit the low note
She sang the song so much better before
AVLACDN 2 years ago
i bet that somewhere deep in her heart she misses how her life was when she was younger. only when she sings old songs like this..
Texasgurl1990 2 years ago 121
i know! i think her old style at 2002 was real prty and her voice was more country popish but it really matched pop rock.shes not punk rock ok?
violetgirl1996 2 years ago
@Texasgurl1990 Don't we all?
flounderal 6 months ago
Anyone else reminded of Alanis Morrisette when she sings?
darmocat 2 years ago 2
she did this in the other three videos i watched of im with you live she has her audience sing i love her so much
lilibeth933 2 years ago
she used to be better live when she was younger, at least thats what I think lol
drums22gdrkelly 2 years ago
she's better than taylor
gugucima 2 years ago 8
Cant compare her to taylor.
Avril is way better.
Hunniibun 2 years ago 77
@Hunniibun sorry but i love them bote they are not like WHO IS BETTER cause they are bote GREAT but i respect every opinion.
zarigirlful 7 months ago
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she looks a little like taylor swift :]
helenroxz 2 years ago
Its in a different key :) Not outta tune :P
lewymocha06 2 years ago
trpp brava!!!!!!!!!!
gagagame95 2 years ago
so cooL
yeseniacarballoest 2 years ago
every time I listen this song,it's turning to be one of my fav, she's so fucking awesome
lapizzeria24 2 years ago 3
I WAS THERE. :p
EricCeeEricDoo 2 years ago 5
i love u Avril 4life u rock Avril :)
overmydeadbody109 2 years ago 3
Joj kak bi jo guzo v rito, da se bi ji bliskalo v očeh.
Rajko2000 2 years ago
in this live she's a little without voice but she's still great and amzing and it's normal to have a bad day.I'll love her 4ever
lapizzeria24 2 years ago 5
Gosh i wanna be there
Gwyn142 2 years ago 5
this is my favorite Avril song and its kinda different like this, live but still good.
Gwyn142 2 years ago
damn she's so different..
pasilaizhom 2 years ago
cause may avril fans dont like britney
OnoDeLiza 2 years ago 5
too bad she can't hit the low note at the end anymore :(
I hope she trains her lower register more for her next record
AVLACDN 2 years ago 2
Why are all avril live songs have comments about Britney ?!?!
Gadgacun 2 years ago 4
Su voz ha evolucionado enormemente! Y en realidad me encanta con los dos estilos, punk o princess...La amo por lo que es y como canta, no como se viste (Aunque ame sus vestuarios jaja).
Gislysrbdfan 2 years ago 3
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umm .. i dont think that avril can sing very well live .. ^^
Maynonah 2 years ago
ahora canta todas las canciones sonriendo, me gustaba más su estilo anterior era más rea,l ahora como que vive todo el tiempo en un mundo vano
LISYNCERE 2 years ago
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avril lavigne sounds bad live her voice is so flat. Even britney sounds better, and at least brits can dance!
chloecollette 2 years ago
Last time Britney sang live was in 2004, and she cant dance anymore, so shes a parasite.
diversifc 2 years ago 6
britney sounds better live cuz she lip syncs, don't even deny it. avril has never lips synced, it's pretty obvious
alithegreatest34 2 years ago 5
Ha mejorado muchísimo...pero me encantaba su anterior estilo...pasó de punk a princesa...
L2y9a 2 years ago 2
yahoooooooooooohooho^^
cocosfreaqz 2 years ago
I love you Av :))).You are best
AngelaLucic02 2 years ago 29
impresionantee!! Avril Rocks!
ireneBSB 2 years ago 6
i love you avril
ronealarca 2 years ago 7
i love you avril
ronealarca 2 years ago 5
where is avril ???????/ :(
she sings very good but i love better her last voice i guess
nitzkaulitz 2 years ago 2
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she cant sing it as good anymore :(
Backscrachter 2 years ago
After girlfirend , she's sing many rock song , now, this show I think is better than befor , because I think she's many years haven't practice snow song.
KinwaSo 3 years ago 2
wtf, rephrase plz? lol
z0diak08 3 years ago 3
Whahhaa x'D
Noaa2avril 2 years ago
I love her voice on 1.56! She sings sooo good!
XannyxTokioHotel 3 years ago 3
the ending was hilarious never expected that i like burst out laughing+
dragaurd1 3 years ago
I know what you mean. When I heard Wylie's Yahoo yodel at the end of it, I about lost it. I'm high as a Chinese kite and somebody has to throw something like that at the end of a serious video.
michaeleffmeredith 3 years ago
la puta medreee como cambio av :s
alduar47 3 years ago
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KinwaSo 3 years ago
sorry, what?
vladamirr 3 years ago
didnt really understand what they were trying to say had to read it a few times and i still dont get it.
ahalencak101 3 years ago
yeah, same here :)
vladamirr 3 years ago
same :S
fabrigas4evr 3 years ago
what the hell was he saying ??:S
fabrigas4evr 3 years ago
ddi u get anything:S?
fabrigas4evr 3 years ago
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?? didnt get a word :S
fabrigas4evr 3 years ago
Yeah, I know how ya feel. Everytime I'm alone, and I see her, I whip it out and beat to her.
youbetterbelievehah 3 years ago 2
Wow ... I admit she was a bit shaky in the beginning and I wasn't sure how it would turn out but like usual she totally blew me away. Amazing perf.
halfwaytocliche 3 years ago 3
she looked tense and nervous here
gaille143 3 years ago 2
OH MY GOD she felt this song !!!!!!!!! i can't believe it's still little Avril i am so happy that i've wathced this video cause i saw real Avril she's still there inside, hiding...... great performance i felt it too..
Vercetio 3 years ago 7
I don't know...Maybe the girl were she wrote Nobody's Home for...'Cause she looks emotionel in this video. sorry for my bad english :P
fenniej10 3 years ago 2
yea, ur English is bad...xD..
avril4ever2me 3 years ago
Hahah, I know :)
fenniej10 3 years ago
she's fucking good now
she WAS fucking good too
but she's the cutest now^^
florrrrrrrravril 3 years ago