Some people criticaly hates LSD, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups, and has many supporters. In other democratic countries, this kind of political organization is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged? Are you criticaly angry with poor government policies? Do you criticaly hate biased policies?
@iloveorangesowhat4 BTW, did you know that Hong Kong just won best airport AGAIN in 2011? We beat Singapore and Seoul this time. But don't worry, the SAR govt is still incompetent. It is just free from corruption, achieved CEPA for Hong Kong, provides gd university grants and runs a world no.1 airport among other things. No big deal. Still incompetent. Still intolerable. Still inferior to the colonial administration that forced us to take boat people. We still need the LSD scums to save us.
@iloveorangesowhat2 The June 30 demonstration is to ask the LSD scums to be deported from Hong Kong. We find that just a tad more important than asking any govt officials to step down. BTW, did you even realise my last mail was meant to be SAR-CAS-TIC??
@iloveorangesowhat2 Finally we agree on something. You're right about the critical point. Our disgust and anger at the LSD has reached a very critical point indeed.
Some people hates LSD critically, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups. In other democratic countries, LSD-alike political organication is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged?
Some people critically hates LSD, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups, and has many supporters. In other democratic countries, this kind of political organization is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged?"
You may hate LSD critically, LSD is still the top ten political group. LSD fights for the under privileged. What would happen to the poor when LSD falls? Do you hate poor government policy critically?
Under basic laws, Hong Kong residents shall have freedom to enter the (Hong Kong Special Administration) Region. The government has no authority to deport Hong Kong residents.
@iloveorangesowhat2 Doesn't that make the 2 of us? Under the basic law, all processions and demonstrations should be conducted in accordance with law. Has the LSD EVER observed that? LSD has been leading the way in breaking the law. I merely follow your lead!
The scum of Hong Kong. All Social democrats know is to scream Hong Kong Govt has done nothing. Let me tell them what the govt has done : Hong Kong has freedom, no corruption, 50% of residents live in subsidized housing, the best port and airport in the world, highly efficient public hospital, lowest tax rate in the world, one of the highest per capita incomes in Asia, consistently one of the most popular tourist destinations in Asia, best university in Asia! Eat shit la social retard democrats!
Freedom, integrity, public housing, world-class ports & airport, state of the art hospital, low-tax rates, and University status were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
@iloveorangesowhat2 Wrong! The achievements I listed are in present tense. Even if they started in the colonial era, the present govt has KEPT the gd performances. Forture magazine admitted it wrongly predicted HK's death. It says *Hong Kong not only did not die but THRIVE* after the handover. Did you forget how the colonial govt FORCED us to take boat people and refused to pay. I suppose CEPA which contributed so much to HK's economy is also an achievement of the colonial govt according to u
However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement) were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement) were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
You are partially correct, CEPA and University grants are contributing. However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement).
@iloveorangesowhat3 Deteriorating freedom? What about hi speed rail protest, Queen's pier protest ,Sunday violence, Falungong protesting DAILY in Mong Kok and Wan Chai? Anyone jailed? NO! Did you know during colonial times, the govt had authority to spy on all your moves via the special operations unit ( to track down communists and taiwan spies). HOS stopped due to calls from Society after SARS and negative assets. Don't blame the govt. Easy to say the past is better. But get your facts right/.
The protests you mentioned do have several protesters sentenced to jail or community services order. Your claims are not the truth. Hong Kong Human Rights Monitor has a long list of those prosecutions. What is Sunday violence? The SAR government did spy on citizens illegally until Long Hair wins the illegal wire tapping case in court of final appeal. Do you think SARG is not responsible for negative assets? Who blames the government? The Hong Kong citizen blames the government.
I share some of your views despite not all, your colonial controversies have issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of big brothers. This is evolution.
@iloveorangesowhat3 Hong Kong once again is ranked 2nd in Asia for corruption free govt, just behind Singapore and ahead of Australia. The announcement came out today. To whom should I credit this achievement? The *incompetent* SAR govt or the *brilliant according to iloveorange colonial govt*? Or are you saying the SAR govt is still incompetent because it ONLY achieve 2nd place?
Yes, most government officials are still clean. We should credit this achievement.
Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee criticized the government to be incompetent via her recent article A Surplus of Incompetent Leadership. We now have clean but incompetent governance.
@iloveorangesowhat2 Clean but incompetent govt??? What's next? Efficient but incompetent govt? Smart but incompetent govt? Guess you'd rather swallow a screw than say the govt is competent. Clean officials is a CORE competency of any govt. It's easy to SAY the govt is incompetent when it has to do so much for so many on relatively little tax money. Of course Regina Ip has to say the govt is incompetent. She's a watchdog lawmaker. If the govt is seen as competent, she'd be out of a job!
Who think the government incompetent? It is Regina Yip, newspaper and Hong Kong citizen. According to HKU Public Opinion Programme, 40% of people thinks negative about the overall performance of the HKSAR Government, compared to 26% positive. You can disagree with Regina Yip but this cannot change the fact that HK people thinks the government is incompetent.
@iloveorangesowhat3 You said it *think*. People (like u) don't give enough credit to govts. That's true world wide. People blame govts for all problems and don't remember at all govts' work when things are going well. In some cases, the SAR govt makes mistake. Some even serous. But all international rankings say REPEATEDLY the SAR govt is overall competent and efficient. BTW, if you so believe in polls, recent polls show 84% disapprove of LSD's violent acts in lego. You gonna change? Yes or no?
Thank you for pointing out in some cases, the SAR govt makes mistakes and some are even serious. Which international rankings say repeatedly the SAR govt is overall competent? Which polls shows 84% disapproval of LSD's violent acts? What violent acts are the polls referring? In HK, only polls conducted by Universities are reputable.
@iloveorangesowhat2 International rankings on freedom from corruption, social and economic advancement, economic freedom, happiness index, Universities, Financial hub........why am I educating you? Waste of time. LSD is your cult and like any cult members, you see what you want to see and choose to believe in lies and distortions of truth. And like any cults, LSD teaches hate, anger, intolerance and violence towards the outside world. You seem to enjoy wallowing in that. Well, be my guest.
Yes, HK has freedom but not democracy. 13 years ago we have direct election on all legco members. What social and economic advancement are you referring? What happiness index are you referring? I agree University grants are contributing. It has been the financial hub since the handover, and now many companies choose Singapore for public listing. You think LSD teaches hate, anger, intolerance and violence? Please read LSD's policy 政策綱領, then tell me what you disagree.
Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demostration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demostration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demonstration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
@iloveorangesowhat2 What about colonial controversies. Sacking of ICAC operation chief, the transfer of Hong Kong surplus to UK, abolition of all pig farms, boat people, taxi drivers boycott. HK's airport overtaken? Singapore and HK always fight for the top 3 places in the world. This yr they won. Last 3 yrs we won. This yr we remain at no 3. Exactly why we should focus on competition with Sin than political infighting. Tax rate? Our tax is already the lowest and you want further improvement?
I share some of your views despite not all, the British has issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of "big brothers". This is evolution.
I share some of your views despite not all, the British has issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of "big brothers". This is evolution.
@satinhell818 Thanks. Good to know you share my disgust at the shit eating/spewing social retard democrats. Someone has to set the record straight. Let the mad dogs know not everyone is conned by their cheap and filthy tricks.
@iloveorangesowhat2 And this an indication of WHAT??? The voters turnout rate for THAT by election was by FAR a historical low at a dismal 15% something. Hong Kong people clearly shuned LSD's agenda for the 5 district resignation. If LSD truly believes in democracy as they CLAIM they are. They should disband and step down. But of course they won't . They're just as addicted to power as any low life politicians. So let LSD continue to eat shit la. They're hopeless gar la.
To promote and support election is the responsibility of the government. Liberal Studies Teacher blames Henry Tang Ying-yen directly for not supporting the by-elections. Yuk Man, Long hair and Albert Chan stepped down, but voters casted them to return.
果個問題梗係可以指責社民連或者人民力量做既野唔啱啦。但係個問題佢咩因為指責,佢搞唔清楚,因此佢不能為自己正名,即係不能夠為自己安一個名。你總不能叫非社民連、非人民力量的民主派。所以佢地要安一個名俾自己,咁你咪叫自己和平理性非暴力非粗口既民主派囉,得格。得駕喎,四非,咪得囉。係嘛我覺得係非常之混帳囉,泛民主派係為左2007、2008雙普選,咁我地失敗左唔能夠為市民爭取、同市民一齊奮斗,到2012既時候民主黨卒先墮馬。咁而家民主黨重欠緊所有人一個人情就係佢認為妥協係得既,咁到2016有咩野主張呢?2017萬一果個期票唔對兌現既,原來果個特首普選係假既時候佢有乜方法對抗呢?你總唔能夠好似劉慧卿咁講和平理性非暴力非粗口架嘛。我就提出左黎架勒,佢應該用公民不服權、公民抗命權。甘地又係咁做、昂山素姫又係咁做、馬丁路德甘又係咁做,佢地就係唔識,講咁長咁長,都漏左四個字就係公民不服。你要領導香港人做呢樣野,咪叫做公民不服派囉。甘地燒張身份証,喺南非果時非常之暴力啦,燒一個國家發出既身份証明文件要座監,佢亦都係因為咁先俾人地誡出景既之嘛。佢叫呢個印度人唔好交稅、自己做鹽食,先引起大屠殺之嘛。
iloveorangesowhat0 2 months ago
你現家既香港泛民主派係咪咁做先?我唔罵曾蔭權係得呀,你係咪領導緊香港人咁做先?香港既泛民主派就係和平理性非暴力非粗口,返黎立法會開會,行禮如儀,如果你領導唔到香港人呢,就話今天係香港最黑暗既一天。咁即係咁一路黑暗落去。好簡單之嘛,咁以前無我,無長毛係度假嘛,04年之前無長毛,你話佢爭取左D乜呢?佢爭取左D乜野先?拿,掟唔掟雞蛋唔緊要,可以掟可以唔掟,廿三個掟雞蛋係一個抗命黎既。係抗命黎既,我覺得掟都無所謂。如果佢認為掟真係唔好睇,咁你咪做D正式令政府唔運作既野囉。咁你會唔會先?你泛民主派點會姐?日日都返黎返工,四年一次又告急。我以前唔係度架,我想請教各位高明,點解我唔係度既時候佢做唔倒野呀?而家要我黎呢度,好似共產黨特務咁,黎到呢度七年破壞佢地做野呀?佢唔覺得可恥既咩?我問呀,我係度果陣時,我叫佢唔好投票贊成領匯上市,佢有無投丫?我係度果陣時,我叫佢唔好投票贊成兩鐵合併,佢有無投丫?咁佢唔好話人阻住佢丫嘛,佢需自己要深刻反醒呀,點解成日錯票呀,成日同香港人道歉呀,我使唔使同香港人道歉丫?我唔使既,唔係淨係掟蛋呀。
iloveorangesowhat0 2 months ago
而家民主黨要解釋點解佢投票支持領匯上市呀?點解贊成兩鐵合併呀?同地鐵私有化呀?果D唔關我事,我果陣時都無掟蛋。係咪我掟蛋令佢神經錯亂丫?你做人,真係最無出色既人就係,自己應該做既野唔做,自己應承左既野唔做,而去委過於人丫嘛。我使乜委過於人姐?我話俾民主黨聽,你夠膽,就聯埋建制派,投票踢我出去囉,你唔鍾意呢D文化丫嘛,趕盡殺絕囉。如果甘地在世佢一定要將甘地開除啦,燒左人地張身份証做乜姐?八九民運吾爾開希衝破果D公安做咩姐?四月廿七號點解要遊行姐?人地都話左唔俾你遊行架咯,話明要旗幟鮮明反對動亂架咯,咁你張文光支持乜野呀?今時今日支持乜野呀?支持乜野呀我問佢。佢係咪話覺得吾爾開希係差呢?
iloveorangesowhat0 2 months ago
喺香港D貪官好難做到落去,唔同喺大陸;
davidk9991 3 months ago
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《淚》李商隱
永巷長年怨綺羅,離情終日思風波。
湘江竹上痕無限,峴首碑前灑幾多。
人去紫台秋入塞,兵殘楚帳夜聞歌。
朝來灞水橋邊問,未抵青袍送玉珂。
Sentimental Mo.
長毛說市民投票是給自己良知,令余若薇動容落淚。長毛自認負心人,第二日送這首詩給余若薇道歉。余若薇於是將首詩寫成書法,送回給長毛。
iloveorangesowhat2 6 months ago
蔭權之亂:辭職補選,政府指有意見認為並無不妥,是傳達政治訊息的合法手段,但政府自己則認定是漏洞。只說耗用1.26億,不說1.26億開設了二百六十個臨時僱員職位、二十多個公務員職位、招聘及培訓一萬五千個事務人員。只說1.26億可以投放其他更有用的用途,不說政府有過萬億儲備超過十年、可以有什麼用途。只說53%反對公投,不說26%巿民支持,而支持比率正在上升。說議會的完整性會有減損,說少了一名議員提供服務,說降低選舉程序的尊重,不說點解要尊重立法會。從第一天起,已經不是屬於市民的,而是屬於當權者的。這是因為香港沒有真普選。議員為民拯命的法案,因為功能組別分組點票而不能通過。政府大白象的法案,卻毋需功能組別分組點票,變成可以通過。少一名議員服務或者完整性,與取消補選有什麼關係?只說舉行補選會令以比例代表制加入得票最多者當選的元素,不說始終也是比例代表制,因為如果兩個議員同區辭職,也會按比例代表制選舉。其實比例代表制本身已經很邪惡。特首董建華辭職補選是不是漏洞?區議員辭職補選是不是漏洞?為何區議員及特首可以補選,立法會不可以?政府說取消補選是正當合理,在真正民主的地方,這種政府,已經倒台。
iloveorangesowhat0 6 months ago
曾蔭權 is not a real christian, even is not a human, he is a dog!
Raychik 6 months ago
睇完
想鋤條女多D
ken760903 6 months ago
@ken760903 me too 仲要大大力
vegetablechiu 6 months ago
議員陳偉業、黃毓民、長毛、阿陶被鎖上手扣逮捕。為何市民恭喜他們光榮被捕?為何市民支持他們,不是政府?是政府出了問題,還是市民?
iloveorangesowhat0 6 months ago
小弟以前不多留意社會的,全靠有了社民連三子,他們用了非常容意理解的方式表達社會問題!!多謝社民連三子!
alienlovejacky 6 months ago
@alienlovejacky
長毛、陶君行仍是社民連成員。毓民同大舊已經退出社民連,加入人民力量了。人民力量是由普羅政治學苑、選民力量、前綫、神州青年服務社、民主陣線和前社會民主連線200多名退黨成員組織而成。結果是,當權者以前只需要打壓社民連,現在連人民力量也要打壓,已經應接不瑕。
iloveorangesowhat2 6 months ago
蔭權之亂:律師會指政府草率,表示遺憾,應該諮詢,擱置2011年立法會(修訂)條例草案。大律師公會指政府缺乏理據、應該一早諮詢、由其他名單議員補上缺乏代表性,應該諮詢,擱置2011年立法會(修訂)條例草案。政府局長曾指同一名單替補是偏離公平公開公正。
iloveorangesowhat0 7 months ago
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perfectbeauty44 7 months ago
向布殊擲鞋的人要服刑, 在議會擲東西是英雄,不是暴力?
全世界有很多議會暴力沒錯,不過當這些上報了,很多人會當笑話看.當年布殊也成為同事飯後的話題笑笑,但當這些事在香港發生,香港人就無法當笑話看了
這種行為,無論用任何說法去解釋,是暴力就是暴力,不要去美化它. 政府無能,但議員同樣無能
supernovaehk 7 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat2 7 months ago
@supernovaehk
你既然關心貧苦大眾,知道有些老人家現在生活很苦,有沒有想過政府有過萬億存備,為何仍然會這樣?這是因為政府不是我們選出的,當權者只需向800位(下屆是1200位) 選民負責。沒有社民連或者人民力量為under privileged發聲,突出當權者的不義,你想想當權者會怎樣對待弱勢社群?他們什麼行為是暴力?如果是common assault,可以起訴他們。為何掟蕉?是因為政府在生果金虧待老人。國民黨用暴力推翻帝制,共產黨用暴力推翻腐敗,你又認不認同應該美化它們?
iloveorangesowhat2 7 months ago
蔭權之亂又再發生:特首推搪僭建,完全無視strict liability不道歉。發展局對僭建可以理順不打擊。警察打擊交通擠塞絕不手軟,拘捕五十三示威者;絕對雙重標準。
iloveorangesowhat0 7 months ago
香港記者很漂亮!司法是要依立法的精神。香港主從不清就像台灣的《起雲劑》
TWHDD 8 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat2 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:國民教育課程諮詢要升國旗肅立,為同胞成就自豪。香港大量加拿大、澳洲籍華人,為何升旗要肅立?艾未未、劉曉波的成就應否自豪?在民主的外國,國民教育是告訴學生真實的歷史,由他們自己判斷應否支持自己的國家。在香港,學生對國家民族感情不強烈,老師要學生自我反省,不是當權者反省自己的過失。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:曾蔭權被大律師公會及律師會不點名指責highly inappropriate。二十名立法會議員譴責曾蔭權作出不恰當的評論。曾蔭權否認向法院施壓,但沒有否認做了不恰當的評論。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:政府輸官司,毫不remorse,重話plaintiff不對。警務處處長曾偉雄打擊塗鴉絕不手軟,無論是否危險和是否嚴重。發展局長林鄭月娥絕對容忍僭建,只要沒有危險不嚴重,可以理順不打擊。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
会有那么一天的,全国人民拭目以待,而台湾、香港就是先行者!!!!!!!
liyouliang 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:環境局長邱騰華指,膠袋徵費得到市民支持,成效顯著,膠袋用量勁減。南華早報頭條:膠袋徵費沒有環保,因為大量環保購物袋被拋棄。邱騰華、曾俊華及陳家強都是無知、沒有讀南華早報。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
they just doing a political road show only. distribing ~,~
chateriton 8 months ago
@chateriton
"社民連政績" 司法覆核: 政府非法竊聽覆核 勝訴 代表小股東打電盈 勝訴 在囚人士投票覆核 勝訴 最低工資司法覆核 付一百五十萬堂費 街頭運動 捍衛基層住屋權益 被控非法集結 禮賓府外爭取普選 被控襲警 爭取開放大氣電波 被控違反電訊條例 監察領匯影響基層 抗議歧視同性戀者 立會工作: 推翻長者入息審查 協助雷曼苦主追討 踢爆官員利益輸送 調查警察食霸王餐 調查警察濫權搜身 調查警察砌生豬肉
他們是為基層做事,為何你認為係political road show?Donald Tsang 叫起錨係唔係political road show? 做political road show只要係為市民而做,有什麼不對?
iloveorangesowhat2 8 months ago
@chateriton
社民連政績竊聽覆核勝訴打電盈勝訴在囚投票覆核勝訴等等,他們是為基層做事,為何你認為係political road show?Donald Tsang 叫起錨係唔係political road show? 做political road show只要係為市民而做,有什麼不對?
iloveorangesowhat3 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:警務處處長曾偉雄的言論及處事手法日漸令市民反感,而他仍然以為自己正確。以前市民尊重警隊,不會把警務處處長改圖,但是曾偉雄上任後,很快便有市民創造誰又在破壞和平、騰飛不忘河蟹擋的改圖。更有市民將他的肖像投影在垃圾收集站。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:廉署在廉政專員湯顯明的領導下,市民經常批評廉署喜歡高調拘捕,卻找不到證據。更有廉署職員涉嫌貪污及妨礙司法公正。湯顯明是當年努力推銷廿三條的政府官員。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
蔭權之亂:關愛基金得不到市民及善長支持。富豪以極長時間分期、拖數、走數、婉拒,都只會令關愛基金帳面大,實收少,壞帳高,最於由政府從市民資產包底,苦了窮人和市民。
iloveorangesowhat0 8 months ago
五區公投的議員在立法會宣讀公投文宣之前,譚耀宗帶領其他議員離場,導致流會。工聯會王國興更高叫吵鬧。令人聯想到譚耀宗同王國興猶如心智未成熟的小朋友。
iloveorangesowhat0 9 months ago
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Some people criticaly hates LSD, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups, and has many supporters. In other democratic countries, this kind of political organization is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged? Are you criticaly angry with poor government policies? Do you criticaly hate biased policies?
iloveorangesowhat3 9 months ago
二零一一年七一遊行主題:還我2012雙普選,打倒地產霸權,曾蔭權下台。曾蔭權下台已成定局,因為人大已經釋法,曾蔭權只能做到二零一二。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
垃圾
eddyko2002 10 months ago
@eddyko2002
港獨、廢柴、垃圾、搞事、三傻、小丑、垃圾、過激、台灣化,都是外圍組織慣用的字眼,言詞空泛又缺乏說服力。以前,經常用來攻擊民主黨,現在用在公民黨、社民連兩黨身上。最淋漓盡致的是民主黨李柱銘被罵抗中亂港親英媚美漢奸走狗賣國賊小丑。社民連政策是濟弱扶傾,幫助窮人和弱勢社群,如果打倒了濟弱扶傾的社民連,打手會得到什麼?窮人又會得到什麼?
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
很多事情上,政府都把市民推向對立面。為什麼二十一世紀的香港,政府仍然不是代表市民,而是聽從當權者和既得利益者?這是管治危機的源頭。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
保安局局長李少光指立法會議員梁國雄顛倒黑白是非,警方使用胡椒噴霧時是向天方向噴射。網上短片、相片都看到胡椒噴霧是對人噴射。李少光講大話,成為香港Yahoo的熱門搜尋。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
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睇完條片就知 iloveorangesowhat3 講大話,
[2011反財政預算案遊行] 陶君行與孔令瑜意見不合,示威期間內訌
v=CwNeva2I_fA
係示威者衝出馬路阻塞交通,同孔令瑜大叫社民連留低。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
睇完條片就知 iloveorangesowhat3 講大話,
[2011反財政預算案遊行] 陶君行與孔令瑜意見不合,示威期間內訌
v=CwNeva2I_fA
係示威者衝出馬路阻塞交通,同孔令瑜大叫社民連留低。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
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@AbeleWong
iloveorangesowhat3 講左乜大話?示威者係衝出馬路,但是阻塞交通不成立,因為警察已經封路。如果封左路,汽車便是已經改道,所以封左路就唔係阻塞交通,你可以問問你的警察朋友。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你說得對,當時皇后大道中是封了路,但是示威者9時左右到達德輔道中阻塞交通,數分鐘內汽車改道同封路。有片為証:6MAR2011 德輔道中臨界點【完整收錄兩小時】。你的新聞片始終經過剪接。始終,汽車改了道。這是不是公眾滋擾,我認為可以由法庭裁決。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 "這是不是公眾滋擾,我認為可以由法庭裁決。"
(商台)2011年3月6日 星期日 21:18 ”參加完反財政預算案遊行的一批八十後青年,現時仍然留在皇后大道中 ,不願離開...現場警員曾經以揚聲器,勸籲他們騰出空間,讓當局重開部份行車線,但不獲理會,並一度與警員碰撞。部份示威者晚上九時許,更加經雪廠街衝出德輔道中, 在德輔道中的行車線靜坐。”
警察即使改道不可能完全使交通回復正常,電車服務亦不可能改道,市民和交通被你地影響,你仍然狡辯無影響市民真係無恥。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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@AbeleWong
有示威者發言指,傳統示威和平散去,對政權毫無影響,要逼使政權正視社會問題,要求改革稅制、全民退休保障、回購公共資產、增加恆常公共福利開支、並要求失職與造成今天亂局的特區管治團隊立即下台,要靠阻塞中環的主要道路。這種手法的代價,可以是坐監。監獄裏,呢D人係政治犯,可以獨立囚禁。不民主的社會,政治犯大有人在,例如曼德拉、昂山素姬、哈維爾、曾德成。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
有示威者發言指,傳統示威和平散去,對政權毫無影響,要逼使政權正視社會問題,要求改革稅制、全民退休保障、回購公共資產、增加恆常公共福利開支、並要求失職與造成今天亂局的特區管治團隊立即下台,要靠阻塞中環的主要道路。這種手法的代價,可以是坐監。監獄裏,呢D人係政治犯,可以獨立囚禁。不民主的社會,政治犯大有人在,例如曼德拉、昂山素姬、哈維爾、曾德成。
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 "你話警察早已經警告使用暴力,新聞片都有紀錄?根據警察通例,係要講警告使用胡椒噴霧,同用嘅程度,單純舉牌或者只講會用暴力,係不符警察通例。"
警察通例邊條咁講"使用胡椒噴霧要警告我要用胡椒噴霧"呀?
你地的人跳上鐵馬搞到個警察重傷可能殘廢,你又有冇警告個警察呀?
計我話最好用催淚彈對住果個推低鐵馬的賤人個頭射一個,射之前警告佢我要射催淚彈呀。不過警察唔會咁做,可惜,你地唔當警察係人冇人權,不過警察仍然當你班人渣係人呢。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
警方必須指出,當時是否有合理懷疑,相信有人會使用暴力,否則當晚使用胡椒噴劑是違反警察通例。胡椒噴劑是一種武器,使用時要根據武力使用的原則(警察通例第29-01條),並應符合程序手冊第29-02條及內部保安手冊第1-13條所載關於使用武力程度的規定。《警察通例》第29章:
武力及槍械使用』規定,警員在下列3種情況下,方可開槍:
1.即保護任何人包括自己以免生命受到威脅及身體受到嚴重傷害時。
2.或拘捕有理由相信觸犯了嚴重及兇暴罪行的疑犯,而有人企圖拒捕。
3.或在平息騷動或暴亂時。
如果你係警察,歡迎抖正。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2
胡椒噴劑係藥,係講胡椒噴霧呀!我問你邊條警例話噴胡椒噴霧前要講明噴胡椒噴霧呀!開槍,你有冇足夠智力分辦胡椒噴霧唔係開槍,亦唔係胡椒噴劑呀?我睇你除左示威打警察屈警察之外,咩都唔會。
AbeleWong 10 months ago 2
@AbeleWong
信報3月8日報導:香港法例第238章《火器及彈藥條例》第2條,當中就槍械(arms)的定義,包括能「發射有害液體、氣體、粉末或其他類似東西的任何武器」,換言之,胡椒噴霧即屬此類,被列為槍械。既然胡椒噴霧是槍械,那警方使用即幾等「鳴槍」,只在作出警告後(假設真的有)即向示威者「開火」,更令八歲小童誤中流彈,然後再表示一句「遺憾」,做法是否合理實值得商榷。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
信報3月8日報導:香港法例第238章《火器及彈藥條例》第2條,當中就槍械(arms)的定義,包括能「發射有害液體、氣體、粉末或其他類似東西的任何武器」,換言之,胡椒噴霧即屬此類,被列為槍械。既然胡椒噴霧是槍械,那警方使用即幾等「鳴槍」,只在作出警告後(假設真的有)即向示威者「開火」,更令八歲小童誤中流彈,然後再表示一句「遺憾」,做法是否合理實值得商榷。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 香港法例第238章《火器及彈藥條例》第2條,當中就槍械(arms)的定義,包括能「發射有害液體、氣體、粉末或其他類似東西的任何武器」,換言之,胡椒噴霧即屬此類,被列為槍械"
你都傻的,即係以前警察噴故椒噴霧的時候其實都可以開槍!你有冇常識呀?定係你反警察反到傻左。你咁聰明絕頂又熟法例又叻你又唔去警監投訴,我支持你去投訴呀,唔去你就笨啦。
alfredjan27 10 months ago 2
@alfredjan27
篇文是信報編輯寫的,不是我寫的。你可以話信報編輯冇常識,佢反警察反到傻左,同佢笨。根據維基百科,在香港,胡椒噴霧被列為槍械,香港市民不能擁有之,胡椒噴霧入了眼,可能對角膜構成永久損害。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
跳上鐵馬的人不是我的人。我估你係話跳上鐵馬的人是社民連的人,如果係,你有什麼證據?這裏歡迎所有有事實根據的留言,包括攻擊社民連的,但絕對譴責胡亂扣帽子的人。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你話用催淚彈對住賤人個頭射?如果你係警察,請去見醫生評估你還適不適合做警察。誰當警察冇人權?警務處長曾偉雄反對警察示威,係唔係當警察冇示威權?你話誰是人渣?有什麼事實根據?
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3
可惜,香港警察係有人性講人權同法律唔會咁做不過示威者就唔當香港警察係人,亦都唔當中聯辦保安係人,亦都唔當立法會的保安係人。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
示威者做什麼關社民連什麼事,你唔可以乜都入社民連數。示威者做了什麼無當中聯辦保安係人?去年,示威者慶祝劉曉波得到諾貝爾和平獎,開香檳濺中中聯辦保安,被警察以普通襲擊罪拘捕,成為國際笑話。毓民、長毛一向都尊重立法會保安,保安也會禮貌地向毓民、長毛問好,毓民、長毛只是針對不公。你認為示威者唔當立法會保安係人,其實不是事實。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你點知令兩個警察受傷的人是社民連的會員?你又是不是知道誰令特首受傷,是保安還是社民連的會員?
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3
唔知喎,不過有條片有個人話自己唔係社民連,不過成日係太上皇身邊見到佢。
我知的係高太個仔中招之後高太重要佢影相,唔理個仔大叫唔好,因為佢最信任的人都唔理佢死,當個仔唔係人係示威工具,將來Joseph都會因為高太的反智式教育而成為你們的一份子可喜可賀。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
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@AbeleWong
這裏譴責所有亂扣帽子的人。誰是太上皇?邊條片有人話自己唔係社民連?大陸係唔係呀爺?香港係唔係應該聽呀爺話?小童母親又唔係政客,抹黑佢有乜用?這改不了警察射中小孩的事實、姨姨被人強扯頭髮的事實。這改不了市民堅持繼續參與六四燭光晚會、七一大遊行、反高鐵、菜園村抗爭、爭取全民退休保障。改不了市民堅持繼續與子女參與示威行動,培養子女的公民意識,讓子女親身了解社會需要。你反對社民連,改變不了八十及九十後對政府支持度中最差,改變不了市民對政府累積的不滿在集會爆發。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
誰是太上皇?邊條片有人話自己唔係社民連?抹黑小童母親有乜用?她又不是政客。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
小童母親又唔係政客,抹黑佢有乜用?這改不了警察射中小孩的事實、姨姨被人強扯頭髮的事實。這改不了市民堅持繼續參與六四燭光晚會、七一大遊行、反高鐵、菜園村抗爭、爭取全民退休保障。改不了市民堅持繼續與子女參與示威行動,培養子女的公民意識,讓子女親身了解社會需要。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 "小童母親又唔係政客,抹黑佢有乜用?"
即係我唔係抹黑,係評論或者批評。
七一遊行同六四燭光晚會你地唔好來搞事添呀,我地和平理性表達訴求的時候你地唔好來拆鐵馬打警察,坐馬路影衰我地同所有香港人。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你指的搞事是什麼?誰拆鐵馬打警察?你如何知道是社民連的會員?你唔可以乜都入社民連數。你試吓同外國人講,坐馬路會影衰所有香港人,睇吓佢會唔會笑到你面黃,只有非常保守的人才會這樣說。曾蔭權話自己代表整體香港人,你認為曾蔭權是不是代表整體香港人?
iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat4
你都傻傻地,馬路唔係要來坐的,馬路係要來俾車行的,你唔好去坐路軌。阻塞交通,如果有人叫救護車或者消防車去永救火救人,咪俾你班人害死!你咁蠢又唔用腦,唔止影衰香港人,簡直你人類文明之的污點。
重有,信報編輯寫的野你唔認為係真你就唔好引述,你唔好話你的留言唔代表你的立場,錯就要認打就企定。殺蟲水入眼都可能對角膜構成永久損害,我買殺蟲水又要領槍牌呀,雞毛掃入眼都會角膜構成永久損害,我去香港槍會練槍我又用支殺他死或者雞毛掃去呀。你有冇常識呀?你先至俾人笑到面黃就真。
AbeleWong 10 months ago 2
@AbeleWong
那你是不是認為遊行不應該封馬路?封馬路讓市民示威,是終審法院也判了在文明社會容許的。如果真係有人叫救護車或者消防車去救火救人,示威者都會讓路,你唔好抹黑示威者。你認唔認為信報編輯是錯?這改變不了胡椒噴霧是槍械。殺蟲水同雞毛掃都可以是攻擊性武器,請你問問你的警察朋友。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 ”那你是不是認為遊行不應該封馬路?封馬路讓市民示威,是終審法院也判了在文明社會容許的”
你唔好偷換概念再打稻草人,七一遊行要過馬路,都會守秩序同跟警察指示,唔會專登坐係馬路阻塞交通。有人暈低,警察都會幫手,根本警察唔會阻礙正常遊行。今次係你地專登要坐馬路阻交通,要警察清場,乘機製造暴力場面!你班無恥的人侮辱香港和平遊行示威權利。抵參加的人被拉,祝你地坐監愉快啦!坐監有安家費,好過黑社會啦!
”如果真係有人叫救護車或者消防車去救火救人,示威者都會讓路”
係呀,不過個細路中左招,連高太都係要影完相先,你講的野搵鬼信。而且救護車消防車係幾條街外的龍尾被阻你又知?你地拿住大聲公係咁叫,警察警告都聽唔到啦。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
當時警察已經封路,所以,阻塞交通不成立,有法院案例可以參考。你話有人暈低,警察都會幫手,通常是,但不是絕對,請search抗癌鬥士麥女士(金蟬婆婆)親述警方清場時對她的暴力對待一片。邊個最無恥?估下聯。
小童中招,誰應該受最大責任?是警察還是示威者?你點批評示威者,都唔會令政府做得好,示威則可以。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2
係你班人衝出馬路阻塞交通,唔係警察封路俾你地坐,倒果為因!唔通差人照俾車行去撞班人渣呀,所以警察要用抬人清場恢復正常交通,唔怪得你地話警察先用暴力,你地成日將黑講成白,明明係黑社會行為就當社運!你地話警察先用暴力,但係最後訓醫院的係果個一隻手扶鐵欄,一隻手拿住個黃色快勞的差佬啦!下次警察不如警告放催淚彈然後放催淚彈算!
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你點知令警察訓醫院既人係社民連會員?唔好乜都入社民連數。警察係可以唔封路架,如果警察冇封路,就係公眾滋擾public nuisance。如果封左路,就唔係阻塞交通,亦唔係public nuisance。如果警察在這情況下放催淚彈便是過份使用武力,會被社會譴責的。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2
社會譴責你班滋擾公眾就真,用細路做人盾,卑鄙到冇人有,重扮正義。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
市民應該譴責不公義的政府政策,還是譴責示威者?不公義的政府政策卑鄙,還是示威者卑鄙?你話用細路做人盾,那你是不是認為社民連特登用細路做人盾?有幾多個細路做左人盾?你係咪真誠相信你講呢翻話?
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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@AbeleWong
你說得對,電車不可能改道。一般情況是當阻塞幾小時,便是公眾滋擾,現在時間不長,是不是公眾滋擾,要讓法庭裁決。邊個最無恥?估下聯。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
你話坐監有安家費?我而家嚴重譴責你亂扣帽子,說話毫無事實根據。
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3
係黃毓民口水會片段有人講俾安家費人坐監,又話台灣越坐監越威。自己去睇片啦,無知。
AbeleWong 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
請提供口水會片標題,讓我search看看,如果在香港坐監會有人俾安家費社民連會員,我一定還你清白,同埋同你一齊譴責社民連。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat4 BTW, did you know that Hong Kong just won best airport AGAIN in 2011? We beat Singapore and Seoul this time. But don't worry, the SAR govt is still incompetent. It is just free from corruption, achieved CEPA for Hong Kong, provides gd university grants and runs a world no.1 airport among other things. No big deal. Still incompetent. Still intolerable. Still inferior to the colonial administration that forced us to take boat people. We still need the LSD scums to save us.
trent8002003 9 months ago
@trent8002003
The July First demonstration is asking Donald Tsang to step down. Citizens are reaching the critical moment.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 The June 30 demonstration is to ask the LSD scums to be deported from Hong Kong. We find that just a tad more important than asking any govt officials to step down. BTW, did you even realise my last mail was meant to be SAR-CAS-TIC??
trent8002003 9 months ago
@trent8002003
Interesting, you wish to deport Hong Kong people illegally.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 No, not people. I just wish to deport social waste.
trent8002003 9 months ago
@trent8002003
Interesting, you think Hong Kong citizens are social waste.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 Finally we agree on something. You're right about the critical point. Our disgust and anger at the LSD has reached a very critical point indeed.
trent8002003 9 months ago
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@trent8002003
Some people hates LSD critically, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups. In other democratic countries, LSD-alike political organication is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged?
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
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@trent8002003
Some people critically hates LSD, but LSD is still the top 10 political groups, and has many supporters. In other democratic countries, this kind of political organization is always accepted by the society. If LSD falls, how would the government treat the under privileged?"
iloveorangesowhat3 9 months ago
@trent8002003
You may hate LSD critically, LSD is still the top ten political group. LSD fights for the under privileged. What would happen to the poor when LSD falls? Do you hate poor government policy critically?
iloveorangesowhat4 9 months ago
@trent8002003
We need a genuine democratic government.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 No. What we need is for the LSD losers to be shipped from Hong Kong to Singapore's Changi prison.
trent8002003 9 months ago
@trent8002003
Under basic laws, Hong Kong residents shall have freedom to enter the (Hong Kong Special Administration) Region. The government has no authority to deport Hong Kong residents.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 Doesn't that make the 2 of us? Under the basic law, all processions and demonstrations should be conducted in accordance with law. Has the LSD EVER observed that? LSD has been leading the way in breaking the law. I merely follow your lead!
trent8002003 9 months ago
@trent8002003
I have said such acts could take demostrators to jail. They are political prisoners. Tsang Tak-sing was also a political prisoner.
iloveorangesowhat2 9 months ago
@AbeleWong
亞洲週刊指出,既得利益者和當權者對基進主義又怕又恨,威脅他們的權力和利益,他們會將基進分子描繪成社會公敵、麻煩製造者,即是你指的搞事。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@AbeleWong
被捕的未成年少年是在網上和網友相約自發上街遊行。互聯網、facebook、MSN連結八、九十後年青人,他們已經適應被守舊人士視為激進的遊行方式。你反對社民連,改變不了八十及九十後對政府支持度中最差,改變不了市民對政府累積的不滿在集會爆發。
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
超稿笑:有個小偷投訴警察冇警告使用暴力:
小偷話警察見到我,冇警告就走過來想捉我,我走的時候,佢又唔警告就追我,佢到的的時候,竟然唔警告就暴力咁從後推跌我令我撞甩隻牙,之後又唔警告我就捉住我隻手戴手扣。
胡椒噴霧係武力的一種,警察早已經警告使用暴力,新聞片都有紀錄。
唔通社民連的超級聰明的成員認為,使用暴力係使用只有警棍警槍唔包胡椒噴霧?社民連第一次示威呀?警察第一次用胡椒噴霧呀?
AbeleWong 10 months ago
很高興你認為革命唔緊要。你知唔知紫荊花革命係由民主黨張文光發起? 因為佢咁講,財爺才立刻派六千。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
警務處長曾偉雄指維護法紀需要道歉是天方夜譚。維護法紀當然毋需道歉。監警會每年都有過百宗證實成立的調查,證實警察打人、警察濫權。市民現在問曾偉雄會否就噴中小孩道歉,不是問會否就維護法紀道歉。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
曾俊華及財經事務及庫務局局長陳家強附和曾蔭權,指否決臨時預算案影響公共服務,是政治表態,凌駕市民利益。南華早報頭版指,否決臨時預算案對政府毫無影響,因為建制派番曬黎之後,一定可以通過。令市民利益受損的是差勁的預算案,不是議員。這只顯示曾俊華及陳家強無知、沒有讀南華早報。更嚴重的是曾俊華的文章叫反思、有偈傾,實際則是批評議員,把市民和議員推向對立面。這只顯示曾俊華不是真誠反省、只想諉過於人。董建華當年就是因為被太多庸官附和,與民為敵,令到民怨沸騰。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
社民連主席陶君行與被捕的未成年少年交談,擔心他是受社民連呼籲而來,原來不是。原來是少年在網上和網友相約自發上街遊行。互聯網、facebook、MSN連結八、九十後年青人,他們已經適應被守舊人士視為激進的遊行方式。政府支持度在八十及九十後中最差,又對青年人大規模拘捕,以強硬手段震懾,只會令市民對政府累積的不滿在集會爆發。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
社民連不對不是己拉了陶連長及百多人?亞媽不對也可起訴她,椒佢小朋友是否他投胎去錯了"子宮"該死?還以為五十年不到已變成大陸港?別人不說,一哥肯定要向小朋友道歉講對唔住。香港法律人士要為小朋友討回公道。
herbkliu 10 months ago
曾蔭權指否決臨時預算案影響老人家、綜援人士,令基層受害。令基層受害的是差勁的預算案,不是議員。不過曾蔭權可以放心,下次建制派番曬黎,一定可以通過。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2
你咁叫打稻草人, 我有話小童不可以示威遊行咩? 冇呀!
1 除非連小朋友自己都唔知做咩, 例如片中的Joseph 記者問佢做咩佢唔知, 影相前係大叫好痛呀我唔想玩啦! 即係有大人同佢講係去玩唔係公民教育.
2 唔係社民連的示威, 2003年都有, 好多人帶小童甚至帶坐BB車的小童去都冇時, 不過馬太話見到防暴盾牌叫個仔去摸完, 都唔想到有風險就只有白癡先會信.
3 警察亦有舉起會使用暴力的橫額, 連新聞片都拍到, 話冇警告就係呃人, 用大聲公放的警告你地可以話嘈或者冇人講過會用噴霧, 唔用噴霧唔通用橡膠子彈呀! 你地不如話要書面通知先係警告呀笨.
你地的真面目全香港的人都睇得好清楚啦, 我等睇你地點樣做三無啦! 三無係 無信譽, 無票, 無議席
alfredjan27 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
很高興你認為小童可以示威遊行。小童母親又唔係政客,抹黑佢有乜用?這改不了警察射中小孩的事實、姨姨被人強扯頭髮的事實。這改不了市民堅持繼續參與六四燭光晚會、七一大遊行、反高鐵、菜園村抗爭、爭取全民退休保障。改不了市民堅持繼續與子女參與示威行動,培養子女的公民意識,讓子女親身了解社會需要。根據警察通例,胡椒噴霧是武器,使用胡椒噴霧前須在情況許可下盡量表明將使用胡椒噴霧,單純舉牌或者用大聲公是不符合警察通例,就好像開槍前要警告會開槍,除非危急,否則不能胡亂開槍。你的三無很有趣,根據比例代表制,無票,無議席是無可能的。誰最無信譽?政府、民建聯、民主黨定社民連?董建華也曾說無私、無怨、無愧,結果五十萬人上街。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2
你唔好將你地社民連的示威同七一遊行比, 你簡直侮辱七一遊行的和平理性的表達訴求的方法,
你地要示威要用武力請自便. 你地要革命都唔緊要, 你地都令兩個警察受傷, 新聞片好清楚, 你地做的事全香港人都心中有數
警察已經警告會使用武力, 即係包括噴霧, 警告左,兵荒馬亂, 你都未必聽到! 你在場的話, 你又會保證所有警員講的每句話你都聽到? 唔得, 咁好大疑點呀. 你聽唔到, 唔代表警察冇警告.
第二, 唔通警察捉察都要警告, 拿, 我依家警告你, 我要追到你啦, 拿, 我依家警告你, 追到你啦, 拿, 我依家警告你, 我要出隻左手捉住你隻右手啦, 拿, 我依家警告你, 我要用鎖技鎖住你隻左手啦, 拿, 我依家警告你, 我要用手銬銬你隻左手啦,
alfredjan27 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
很高興你支持七一遊行。你點知令兩個警察受傷的人是社民連的會員?你又是不是知道誰令特首受傷,是保安還是社民連的會員?你話警察已經警告噴霧?你有什麼證據?根據警察通例,捉賊係要警告才符合程序,仲要講時間、懷疑觸犯的法例,只不過無你講咁長篇。這裏歡迎所有有事實根據的留言,包括攻擊社民連的,但絕對譴責胡亂扣帽子的人。你已經好多次話人都無指名道姓,問你有乜事實根據又答唔出,請唔好係度亂噏。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
很高興你支持七一遊行。你點知令兩個警察受傷的人是社民連的會員?你又是不是知道誰令特首受傷,是保安還是社民連的會員?你話警察已經警告噴霧?你有什麼證據?根據警察通例,捉賊係要警告才符合程序,仲要講時間、懷疑觸犯的法例,只不過無你講咁長篇。這裏歡迎所有有事實根據的留言,包括攻擊社民連的,但絕對譴責胡亂扣帽子的人。你已經好多次話人都無指名道姓,問你有乜事實根據又答唔出,請唔好係度亂噏。
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
很高興你支持七一遊行。你點知令兩個警察受傷的人是社民連的會員?你又是不是知道誰令特首受傷,是保安還是社民連的會員?你話警察已經警告噴霧?你有什麼證據?根據警察通例,捉賊係要警告才符合程序,仲要講時間、懷疑觸犯的法例,只不過無你講咁長篇。你已經好多次亂扣帽子,無證據又講唔出當事人是誰,請唔好係度亂噏。
iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
很高興你支持七一遊行。你點知令兩個警察受傷的人是社民連的會員?你又是不是知道誰令特首受傷,是保安還是社民連的會員?你話警察已經警告噴霧?你有什麼證據?根據警察通例,捉賊係要警告才符合程序,仲要講時間、懷疑觸犯的法例,只不過無你講咁長篇。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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AbeleWong 10 months ago
去片: 抗議財政預算案集會 8歲童中招後
影完相先去救傷車洗眼, 影相果陣15歲果個話自己保護小朋友被踩兩腳的嘍囉重擺個鋪士用隻手遮小朋友的眼添, 都有人噴啦果陣, 真係假戲當真做. 而且細路話唔玩啦走啦, 即係佢只係以為去玩, 馬太公民教育係騙人,, 第二, 細路要走都唔得, 唔去洗眼要影相, 直情係示威宣傳工具.
alfredjan27 10 months ago
@alfredjan27
你話馬太騙人?你是不是認為小童不可以示威遊行?細路係示威宣傳工具?宣傳什麼?宣傳政府的失敗?唯一認同的,是小孩應該立刻醫治。公民黨青年支部主席已經道歉,但這改不了警察射中小孩的事實。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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alfredjan27 10 months ago
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alfredjan27 10 months ago
既然社會咁多所謂公正、公平‧公开嘅人話你們每做事都唔對、又話激烈、又話動武不得止、還要拉人兼入罪‧‧‧咁冒險为香港人都唔领情、不如以後凢立法表决議案你們同建制派–樣舉手又舉脚齐齐通過議案等香港变成一党独掌,看民生变成點樣,看那些中产人家又变成點樣下場‧‧‧望有專业嘅‧學识嘅之仕干萬唔好還在霧裡看花啊
kayuwong15 10 months ago
Mad dogs. and Mad dogs bite each other.
karismagroup 10 months ago
Mad dogs.
karismagroup 10 months ago
笑死我....自己友打自己友....仲好意思POST呢D野上黎....
enoch1225 10 months ago
@enoch1225
社民連分裂了,結果是黨派林立,基進者不受大佬控制,化整為零,引起市民關注問題,上街迫政府改變,就是今日的社會運動。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
老黃果幾句"不該"開心到我啊.太經典了.
ching6176 10 months ago
rubbish
david4chan 10 months ago
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@david4chan
Who is rubbish? incompetent hand-picked government officials, or citizen-elected legislators?
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
保安局局長李少光指小孩被利用做抗辯鬥爭的武器。被噴胡椒噴霧孩子的母親指,帶兒子遊行是公民教育,小童同樣可以示威遊行,表達意見,母親還教兒子認識警察的裝備。教學生理解影響社會的問題、能夠批判、反思和獨立思考,是通識的理念。把小孩視為武器的思維,在真正民主的國家,是失言,是要道歉的。
iloveorangesowhat0 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat0 保安局局長李少光還說: 示威遊行採用暴力,無論目的是怎樣高尚,或怎樣正義,都是不合法的。這句說話真值得思考一下。
davidwwleung 10 months ago
@davidwwleung
以李少光的思維,北非的革命,或者文化大革命,目的是怎樣高尚,或怎樣正義,都是不合法的。李少光的思維,在真正民主的國家,是失言,是要道歉的。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@davidwwleung
在真正民主的國家,法律是用來保障市民權力,限制當權者濫權。李少光本末倒置,把法律用在保護當權者的權位。如果李少光正確,那麼北非的革命,或者辛亥革命,目的是怎樣高尚,或怎樣正義,都是不合法的。李少光的思維,在真正民主的國家,是失言,是要道歉的。
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@davidwwleung
在真正民主的國家,法律是用來保障市民權力,限制當權者濫權。李少光本末倒置,把法律用在保護當權者的權位。如果李少光正確,那麼北非的革命,或者辛亥革命,目的是怎樣高尚,或怎樣正義,都是不合法的。李少光的思維,在真正民主的國家,是失言,是要道歉的。
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
The scum of Hong Kong. All Social democrats know is to scream Hong Kong Govt has done nothing. Let me tell them what the govt has done : Hong Kong has freedom, no corruption, 50% of residents live in subsidized housing, the best port and airport in the world, highly efficient public hospital, lowest tax rate in the world, one of the highest per capita incomes in Asia, consistently one of the most popular tourist destinations in Asia, best university in Asia! Eat shit la social retard democrats!
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
Freedom, integrity, public housing, world-class ports & airport, state of the art hospital, low-tax rates, and University status were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 Wrong! The achievements I listed are in present tense. Even if they started in the colonial era, the present govt has KEPT the gd performances. Forture magazine admitted it wrongly predicted HK's death. It says *Hong Kong not only did not die but THRIVE* after the handover. Did you forget how the colonial govt FORCED us to take boat people and refused to pay. I suppose CEPA which contributed so much to HK's economy is also an achievement of the colonial govt according to u
trent8002003 10 months ago
You are partially correct, CEPA and University grants are contributing.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement) were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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@trent8002003
However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement) were achieved before the handover. You are praising the british sovereignty, not the incompetent SAR government.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@trent8002003
You are partially correct, CEPA and University grants are contributing. However, we see deteriorating freedom (tightened Public Order Ordinance), integrity (the controversial Leung Chin-man JP case), public housing (paused Home Ownership Scheme), world-class ports & airport (Singapore now overtook HK in Skytrax), hospital (advanced but long queue), low-tax rates (16.5% in 1997 and 2011, no improvement).
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3 Deteriorating freedom? What about hi speed rail protest, Queen's pier protest ,Sunday violence, Falungong protesting DAILY in Mong Kok and Wan Chai? Anyone jailed? NO! Did you know during colonial times, the govt had authority to spy on all your moves via the special operations unit ( to track down communists and taiwan spies). HOS stopped due to calls from Society after SARS and negative assets. Don't blame the govt. Easy to say the past is better. But get your facts right/.
trent8002003 10 months ago
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iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@trent8002003
The protests you mentioned do have several protesters sentenced to jail or community services order. Your claims are not the truth. Hong Kong Human Rights Monitor has a long list of those prosecutions. What is Sunday violence? The SAR government did spy on citizens illegally until Long Hair wins the illegal wire tapping case in court of final appeal. Do you think SARG is not responsible for negative assets? Who blames the government? The Hong Kong citizen blames the government.
iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3
I share some of your views despite not all, your colonial controversies have issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of big brothers. This is evolution.
iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3 Hong Kong once again is ranked 2nd in Asia for corruption free govt, just behind Singapore and ahead of Australia. The announcement came out today. To whom should I credit this achievement? The *incompetent* SAR govt or the *brilliant according to iloveorange colonial govt*? Or are you saying the SAR govt is still incompetent because it ONLY achieve 2nd place?
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
Yes, most government officials are still clean. We should credit this achievement.
Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee criticized the government to be incompetent via her recent article A Surplus of Incompetent Leadership. We now have clean but incompetent governance.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 Clean but incompetent govt??? What's next? Efficient but incompetent govt? Smart but incompetent govt? Guess you'd rather swallow a screw than say the govt is competent. Clean officials is a CORE competency of any govt. It's easy to SAY the govt is incompetent when it has to do so much for so many on relatively little tax money. Of course Regina Ip has to say the govt is incompetent. She's a watchdog lawmaker. If the govt is seen as competent, she'd be out of a job!
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
Who think the government incompetent? It is Regina Yip, newspaper and Hong Kong citizen. According to HKU Public Opinion Programme, 40% of people thinks negative about the overall performance of the HKSAR Government, compared to 26% positive. You can disagree with Regina Yip but this cannot change the fact that HK people thinks the government is incompetent.
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat3 You said it *think*. People (like u) don't give enough credit to govts. That's true world wide. People blame govts for all problems and don't remember at all govts' work when things are going well. In some cases, the SAR govt makes mistake. Some even serous. But all international rankings say REPEATEDLY the SAR govt is overall competent and efficient. BTW, if you so believe in polls, recent polls show 84% disapprove of LSD's violent acts in lego. You gonna change? Yes or no?
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
Thank you for pointing out in some cases, the SAR govt makes mistakes and some are even serious. Which international rankings say repeatedly the SAR govt is overall competent? Which polls shows 84% disapproval of LSD's violent acts? What violent acts are the polls referring? In HK, only polls conducted by Universities are reputable.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 International rankings on freedom from corruption, social and economic advancement, economic freedom, happiness index, Universities, Financial hub........why am I educating you? Waste of time. LSD is your cult and like any cult members, you see what you want to see and choose to believe in lies and distortions of truth. And like any cults, LSD teaches hate, anger, intolerance and violence towards the outside world. You seem to enjoy wallowing in that. Well, be my guest.
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
Yes, HK has freedom but not democracy. 13 years ago we have direct election on all legco members. What social and economic advancement are you referring? What happiness index are you referring? I agree University grants are contributing. It has been the financial hub since the handover, and now many companies choose Singapore for public listing. You think LSD teaches hate, anger, intolerance and violence? Please read LSD's policy 政策綱領, then tell me what you disagree.
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Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demostration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demostration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
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Are you angry with poor government policies? Do you hate biased policies? I agree with you that LSD are intolerable. Unfortunately the government is even more intolerable. What violence are you referring? The chief executive, the police, or the demonstration? How do you know the injury is caused by LSD members? When you look at the world, LSD is nothing special.
iloveorangesowhat4 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 What about colonial controversies. Sacking of ICAC operation chief, the transfer of Hong Kong surplus to UK, abolition of all pig farms, boat people, taxi drivers boycott. HK's airport overtaken? Singapore and HK always fight for the top 3 places in the world. This yr they won. Last 3 yrs we won. This yr we remain at no 3. Exactly why we should focus on competition with Sin than political infighting. Tax rate? Our tax is already the lowest and you want further improvement?
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iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
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I share some of your views despite not all, the British has issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of "big brothers". This is evolution.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@trent8002003
I share some of your views despite not all, the British has issues. This would not improve the incompetent SARG. Do you mean political infighting of LSD? We now have radicals not under commands of "big brothers". This is evolution.
iloveorangesowhat3 10 months ago
@trent8002003 very well said !
satinhell818 10 months ago
@satinhell818 Thanks. Good to know you share my disgust at the shit eating/spewing social retard democrats. Someone has to set the record straight. Let the mad dogs know not everyone is conned by their cheap and filthy tricks.
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
I respect you view. Actually mad dog got 60,395 supporters to vote for him during the by-election.
iloveorangesowhat2 10 months ago
@iloveorangesowhat2 And this an indication of WHAT??? The voters turnout rate for THAT by election was by FAR a historical low at a dismal 15% something. Hong Kong people clearly shuned LSD's agenda for the 5 district resignation. If LSD truly believes in democracy as they CLAIM they are. They should disband and step down. But of course they won't . They're just as addicted to power as any low life politicians. So let LSD continue to eat shit la. They're hopeless gar la.
trent8002003 10 months ago
@trent8002003
To promote and support election is the responsibility of the government. Liberal Studies Teacher blames Henry Tang Ying-yen directly for not supporting the by-elections. Yuk Man, Long hair and Albert Chan stepped down, but voters casted them to return.