12 volt room II

[rodenthideout]

very coool  similar to what I have

[bananajoe4u]

im working on a setup just like it,,,im short on cash but i will charge them batt's with solar panels later on this year...im also using 2-6 volt batt's ,,,they last longer

[chalkhill714]

very sweet set up my man keep up the great work....soon youll be ready for a couple pannells or a wind gererator ignor all the naegatives and keep on keepin on

[latinonyc7]

Great job my friend !!!! little by little you will improve your system ..keep the great job !!!..oh i forgot ..just ignore the other stupids comments...they didn't even got to put a system together.

;)

[67tr876]

How many amps in all ? over 500

[boodrow24m]

Great idea with the 12v room, but HOLY FIRE HAZARD!!!

[joezbackwith2gatz]

Very helpful video sir... Thanks for taking the time to make this video... Its Like I always say... Lets all learn from each other... Joe Tactical

[geekforlifevandc]

have the same thing going since a couple years ago also got a diesel generator in the long run

[freedomsailer]

way kewl project .. keep up the good work and just piss on the none belivers and lazy ones that have no clue what your up to ..

[donfritz0]

Poor dude needs to get laid BIG TIME A.S.A.P.

[awomansworld123]

pretty decent setup!!!

[TheNorseLegend]

Stonerj0e, yep I thought that, it's like a poor nerd rip-off. Rem well I don't have , zzzzzzzzzzz

[kjpaint8]

************ Very Important Safety *************

The Batery If Fully charge With Your Solar Controler Is Too Near Please Far A Way From your Batery Danger Explo Will Fire your House .

But Until Now Most of the Inverter Around the World Still Can't Pass The RCD Most Inverter Are Problem With RCD Safety .I Have an Experiment For About 12 Years Already until Today About 16 Inverter Experiment Most Of Them Are Not Pass Home RCD ???? It Was Unsafe.

From International Scouting

[gchenley]

I liked your video, you remind me of myself as a teen having wires all over the place. Don't let anyone discourage you on your road to discovery. I'm retired from a carrier in telecommunications, and believe it or not I still have wires running all over the place. Now that I have the time, I'm studying for my ham license. Enjoy your projects, what you are learning now is the foundation for things you will do.

[helloman1976]

Brilliant man, thanks for the new ideas. It's amazing how easy this stuff is and how easy it is to conserve power. In America we've become so used to unlimited cheap power but in order to stop pollution we must all do our part in reducing consumption. The best part of this whole process is you save tons of money too and even get to make money in the end. My solar panels pay for themselves in 4.75 years if rates stay the same, which they wont. Thanks again!

[SpecialEd0531]

I bet that lamp gets hot.. Be careful to not leave skin on it!

[cambigfoot88]

how many watt inverter and what do you all run on it

[kaz2664]

great video. hope you can get your panels soon.

[stonerj0e]

baddereeths ?

[rtgcel]

go LED to save power on your lighting.

[14gco]

i think you need a 1000watt power 12 volt inverter it will make your life a lot easier and a lot less dangerous also get those batteries out of your house the gases emmitted from those two batteries could kill you

[GarrettBMXes]

Looks like a fire hazard.

[hobbers10]

Kmart... Kmart... I get my underwear from Kmart....

[iankookinyen]

i think this is a great video. i don't get sunlight coming into my house and i want to grow plants, herbs and stuff. was looking all over the web for a set up like this so that i could power led lights 24 hours a day. I am a newbie when it comes to electronic circuits but i am a fast learner, was wondering where do i even start?

[iankookinyen]

i think this is a great video. i don't get sunlight coming into my house and i want to grow plants, herbs and stuff. was looking all over the web for a set up like this so that i could power led lights 24 hours a day. I am a newbie when it comes to electronic circuits but i am a fast learner, was wondering where do i even start?

[xadam2dudex]

hmmm.. u should come up with a home power system to get people off the grid ..u have the basic parts u just need to upscale em..maybe a wind turbine charger with solar panels

[johnny102marvin]

Do batteries give off sulphuric acid fumes in your room?

[nietzschealive]

Peak oil!!! We need more people like you

[Lanny615]

Nice project, have you added any solar panels yet? Greetings from sunny Jamaica.

[jackgvogel]

what is the point of this? Good project i guess...?

[Lanny615]

That's how i started out too, inverter first, then battery, then a solar panel and charge controller. Very good attempt. Greetings from sunny Jamaica.

[coldpak82]

To reduce our dependency from nuclear plant,we need more people like you lol.keep trying.

[davettalashley]

Thank you for sharing your system with us! I'll be following your videos to see what you add to your system in the future. :)

[IRONMAIDENFAN2006]

dragon stfu.. do you know the guy? no do you hang out with him no... dont stick up for him and keep your nose out of my comments theres always an asshole that has to comment on a comment and thats you.. fuck you you little piece of shit

[wwwebcat123]

thanks for the video , i'm gonna hook mine up like yours.

[mrljthedj]

ive got the same sorta setup in my room but ur voice is just to geeky man sorri

[IRONMAIDENFAN2006]

this guy sounds like a retard listen to his voice urrr durrrr deee deee deee

[Dragonart100]

@IRONMAIDENFAN2006 get a life dude

[ongchorcool]

cool setup i can power my laptop and handphone with it

[Kellyrt]

lol nerd

[frosty9595]

This is a really cool setup! Now you need to buy an inverter after you get the solar panels so you can power 120v devices direct ally. Also I would recommend some higher gauge wire on those battery. I know you dont have much load but those wires seamed mighty thin.

[mccunecp]

cool video you doing good keep it up before you be off the grid I cant wait untile I get off th gride I so tired of the power companys and there price gouging. good info video.

[zebratangozebra]

Very nice !

Dont let the idiots get to you.

They are just envious because you have a brain and they dont.

[maddawgpetro]

i cant handle watching the rest of this video with out punching my computer. sweet your room is setup like a camper you nerd. this same technology has been around for awhile.

[irocx29]

nice work man . the video was good to. ty

[GTNBY2]

This dude knows how to get the most from whats layin around but he really has a "rainman" vibe goin on.......WOW

[xXninjaXnickXx]

Wow this guy realli knows wat he is talking about

Nice work bro

5/5

[NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000]

Your gay. Get a life. Dumbass.

[slowman1996]

shut upp hes smart dude!! ass hole

[ThodorisTEM]

build a bedini ssg and use it

[jonatharivera]

that phone uste be hot back den

[Thetimewillgoonn]

Battery=60Amps/25watt/10= 2.5x60amps=24hours oof battery life time of a inverter. THis is how you calculate the battery lifetime

[luigi2999]

you know that desk lamp would have worked just fine if u screw in a 25 or 50 watt 12v bulb u find in RV stores.

[SirFrag32]

Lol never mind my previous comment. I didn't know that you could get such high AHR as 220 out of golf cart batts.

[GunManOsh]

I was glad to see the addition of the 12 power supply for the laptop. While watching the first video I wondered why you hadn't taken that step already. Good stuff man!

[DECOFRANCE]

buy maintenance free battery also aside from solar panellllll

[maclover201]

Wow, 220 amp-hours? That's a heck of a lot.

I just got a zero-maintainance battery with 26 amp-hours... lol. I'm using it for trips and stuff.

[mortamos]

Hey There Yuandrew! Nice video and enthusiasm. I really think u should get som ventelation going from the batteries. When charging they put out gas as you know! Hope u aint sleeping in that room in perticular! Sry for the english! /

[solartape]

add solar!!!!

[REGreenTeam]

I am glad to see a blue collar plan jane 12 volt set up like this. I would also recomend that your next phase is to add a green charging system such as wind and/or pv. Except for the projects we do for the the "RICH" we never recommend an inverter or grid tie system. The cost is just too much for most blue collar working people. After living full time in a rv while dry camping I converted every thing I needed to 12 volt. This was 1971. With a SHW I only went to town for H2O once a month.

[13astewart]

tlavk about a fierhaserd hop your hous dosent bern bown adn get it set up with renuble energy

[biggerballer]

I have to agree, why have all this 12vdc crap??????? you need to go with a solar panel or wind turbine to charge that shit. Not charge it with your house power. throw a power inverter in there and cut out all that 12vdc BS.. good luck.. hope your house doesnt burn before you get it, lol ..

[yuandrew]

I have an inverter already. The way my room is set-up; half of my devices can run on 12 volt directly (halogen lamp, car radio, laptop power supply, ipod/phone charger) so they run directly off the batteries. The other half runs off the inverter (TV, VCR, two compact fluorescent light bulbs, fan)

Solar panels are what I plan to charge those batteries with eventually but those are on hold due to budget constraints.

[metro2002]

@biggerballer , why would you convert a 12 volt current to 220v current and then let the devices convert it back to ... 12 volts! It's way more efficient to use 12 volt devices in the first place.

[blues3d]

Nice project, but you need to enclose the batteries in some sort of box and vent it to the outside. Lead acid batteries emit hydrogen gas.

[k9cb]

I think your experiments are quite interesting, but I believe it is extremely inefficient to go from 120v AC to 12v DC. You should immediately get solar panels b/c your charging method makes absolutely no sense; you are a nerd. Why not use an inverter so you can use any appliance that runs on 120v AC and in a real emergency situation you aren't limited to solely a car radio and a cell phone charger. I believe that any average fifth-grader could build such a pathetically simply project...Queer.

[radionut63]

WOW dude!! i am a amateur radio operator,and i think you k9cb should be a little more resonable with his project,the guy said,in case you never heard,was going to go solar power,maybe you should listen a more,and type even less. A nerd,and queer as you say,now who looks stupid!

[Kiowan918]

while I don't usually post non constructive messages i can't help myself, your voice is really irritating, it's like the comic store nerd from the simpsons.

[richsagedotcom]

I like your direction and drive to discover what's possible. Keep it up and success.

RS.

[nyfdRIP]

FIRE HAZARD

[6666442555]

ok what the fuck is the point in this vid

[codemsan]

just to show his setup to give an idea of what is possible and easy to do with an emergency 12V system...

[dirtTdude]

excellent... I plan on using this exact system with my home made micro hydro generator as aposed to solar power but i intend to add an inverter to operate appliances that require 110. I may need two sets of 6v batteries for my needs. also have devise a way to turn the water off automaticly when the batterys are charged

[toobroke2fight]

Hey yuandrew, What was the name of your 12V laptop charger? also where did you get it from? It sounded like you said Target. My house is all 12V with a generator as backup and I have more solar panels on order. Its fun to make things work with your thoughts and abilities! Keep on thinking!

[yuandrew]

The 12 volt laptop power supply is a TARGUS 70 watt Notebook DC adapter. I believe I bought it from Fry's electronics.

I'll send you a link to the manufacturer's web site.

[stemcellssave]

ok I just realized your electrical panel is mounted on wood, probably not obeying standards there, haha thats funny.

[yuandrew]

I just happened to have a piece of plywood laying around :)

[stemcellssave]

never mind just got my question answered.

[n3vmc]

The same principle applies for solar panels also....wire them in parallel and you keep the voltage but double the amperage.

[stemcellssave]

ok then here's a follow up question: so wiring in parrallel keeps the same voltage and you add the amps all together. Wiring in series you keep the amps the same but add the volts. My question is, when is it beneficial to wire it one way over the other - like what kind of power demand would do better with each?

[stemcellssave]

(related to below questionss) The video I am referring to is called 3 SOLAR PANEL DIY WIRING CONFIGURATION posted Oct 6, 2008 by GreenPowerScience.

[stemcellssave]

(comment continued). This seems like a fundemental question that I would like to resolve to help me better understand all this. Thanks.

[yuandrew]

The two 6 volt batteries are wired in SERIES so the voltage adds but current remains the same (220amp/hr).

In parallel, the voltage will stay the same but the current capacity adds up.

[stemcellssave]

(from prev. comment) Check out at about 47 secs when he starts talking about his battery setup. He has a bunch of 12v batteries, and he says that the system output is still 12V. That was my understanding, that you don't add the voltage together (equalling 56 v output or something).your vid adds the battery voltages together when your describing the output to your charge controller. Is the output of your batteries 12v (6v + 6v) or does it remain 6v even though there is more than one 6v battery.

[chadapiller]

At least your buying Interstate Batteries.

[n3vmc]

What made you use those power pole connectors?

Did you buy them or salvage them?

[yuandrew]

Got them from Uncle Ted (K60I)

They are used by Ham radio guys as the 'standard' 12 volt connector.

[n3vmc]

Im surprised you are not a ham yourself with all your technical knowhow.

Ive been a ham for 13 years and I love it.

[stemcellssave]

what does ham mean?

[n3vmc]

Amateur radio operator

[soefinwhat]

Way cool! I am getting very interested in this kind of thing, thinking of living off the grid. Good job~

[Freezer7Pro]

220Ah! That's a lot. You should get a 1kW inverter and play loud music and watch movies when the power goes out, let your neighbours drool ;)

I myself run a 12V 55Ah boat/camping battery coupled with an ageing 400W UPS to handle charge and voltage of the battery. Lead-acid batteries forever!

Tell me, what did you pay for those monstrous batteries, and in what shape were they when you got'em?

[yuandrew]

I actually got those free from a neighbor who was replacing the house batteries on his Newmar Mountain Aire motorhome. He had them for about four years and was upgrading to LifeLine AGM batteries.

They are used but they still have enough life in them to keep my laptop going or a few fluorescent lights on for many hours.

[Freezer7Pro]

That is awesome. You are very lucky.

Batteries here are ridiculously expensive, the average 55Ah being over 120€ ($150). I can't even imagine what even one of those would cost here, even second-hand.

[schoorl200]

I agree with lambition. It seems to beat th epurpose a bit. You are charging it all from an AC outlet and some of it you even convert back to 120 for your TV (at low efficiency). Yep, should have started with the solar panels.

@12643 why not forget about it completely and use your 120 outlet ;-)

[lambition]

All that to just use 12V converted from AC ?

You should have gotten solar panels first! :)

[yuandrew]

Solar is what I had eventually planned for charging those batteries but the problem I have now is that the modules are still very expensive.

I somewhat have this project on the back burner right now since I have some other projects to finish first.

[12643]

Why use 12V and not just use a inverter and convert to household AC?

[syco4420]

awesome setup. I am a radio Op my callsign is KE5UPV. where did you get the charge controler. thanks

[yuandrew]

I bought the charge controller from Northern Arizona Wind and Sun. They are based out in Flagstaff I think.

The Andreson "Power Poles" were suggested by Uncle Ted (K6OI)

[bradmann85]

its amazing what you can do with just car batteries. its also a great backup for when a storm knocks out the power.

[fireicer]

sweet setup. years now we have been making more and more development into switch mode power supplies to power our digital world when a strait 12V DC supply would have sorted the problem lol now we try to get 12V to 110 or 240 etc just to drop it again to 12V. i seen an article if you raise it to 50,000V then drop it back down to 110 or 240V its much more efficient as there far less loss of power super job by the way

[tediouse]

hi kid

very nice setup its people like you that inspire others,you have made a good effort,

could i say that if you get a 12v alternator mount it in a weather cock frame then get a fan of an old aircon unit,graft it on =free electric, also i bought some camping lights

they r round 6" dia and run 4aaa loose the batterys wire them up ,they will run on a transformer,i got 6 for my garage,got the alt

and fan, 12v tele +vid+cd +12v drill/driver,

your doing great.

[crazycrazyguggenheim]

Cool Video ! I had a set up like yours to power all my Ham Radio gear about 10 years ago. Just a safty tip , but you might want to put the golf cart batts OUTSIDE your room in a VENTED box ....Lead acid batts give off explowsive gases that you don't want near your electronics ...

[DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

I love the way u say voltage

[kosec321]

grear your very creative 5/5 :).

[iluvsaphira]

i have a setup in my shed which uses a single 12v car battery an an 80 watt non-sinusoidal inverter. i simply switch the whole system on, and i have mains power! plus, it's all free as i have a small solar panel to charge the battery. pretty cool, right?

[zhentzar]

Hi

You got a nice set up , would you like to have more use of your battery power , I can send you a dc-dc converter with MCU digital output control and low battery cut off with all accessories to keep you busy for a while,

[kenjigraphics]

Your very unique and very efficient. I want to be like you.CREATIVE.:)

[pmgodfrey]

I remember you - you're the guy in the HID lamp video!

You still sound like Mort Goldman from Family Guy.

[phazonxl]

Nice setup you got there!

a nice way to get some free power is use the phone lines in your house. Hook the phone line up in parallel and increase the current. Then use that regulating circuit build yourself a nice step-up circuit with a transistor and some capacitors and a wall transformer.

The possibilities for free power are amazing!

[monserpq38]

that is really cool, powering everthing on batterys, is this some sort of energy saving idea good though. Here in the UK you can buy 12V ciggerate lighter to mains power (230VAC)

[monserpq38]

if u could where you live try and find a ciggerate lighter 12v to 115v that would make ur whole room 12v powered!

[yuandrew]

I already have one of those things. It is called an "Inverter". I didn't show it here though but you can see it in my first 12 volt room video.

It doesn't really "save" energy though; in fact it probably uses a little more since I currently have to charge the batteries from Line (mains) power and there are losses from converting AC to DC. It does help to have light though when the mains fails.

Anyway, once I have solar panels hooked up to charge the batteries, I should have "free" electricity.

[gewehrmeister3777]

Inverters are relatively inefficient(40-70% conversion) at converting DC to AC and have high primary loads(40A+ for a 400watt inverter at full continuous load). Also inverters have a standby current when there is no secondary load. For battery powered lighting purposes its easier and more efficient to use 12V lamps connected directly to the batteries.

[mystiquesbs]

Overcast does not matter at all for solar panels. I had a solar panel at work rated for 24v oc. We took it into the factory and tested the output voltage and got 12-14v and that's with no direct sunlight at all. Also how long would it take for those batt's to lose charge if you hooked it to an inverter and then hooked that to your 120v flouro's and left them on?? Loving the project!!!

[tech33012]

Very good Video are you going o do another updae i;ve really like it

[woww1994]

can any halogen bulb work

[yuandrew]

I used a 12 volt halogen bulb. Most MR-16 type bulbs are this voltage. Mine is a 20 watt but 35 and 50 watt ones are also available.

There are also 12 volt bi pin halogen bulbs without reflectors in 20 or 50 watt versions. I think they are called "G" type bulbs. I've seen them in many IKEA desk lamps and under cabinet lights.

[woww1994]

I KNOW WHAT KIND YOU MEAN. like the ones in fiber optic trees and stuff

[yuandrew]

Right.

The advantage of the 12 volt halogen is that I can just hook it straight to the battery. My other room lights (fluorescent bulbs mostly) run on 120 volts but I have to use an inverter to step up the 12 volts to 120 to operate them (and my TV and DVD/VCR)

[coondogtheman1234]

i was thinking of doing this but i dont have the room for all the gizmos and stuff

[Buzzybee73]

Hey There,

You're gonna get a hell alot of voltage drop using all that cable..

at 12 volts, you are using around 10 times more current, ever thought about adding an inverter into the circuit so you can hook up a tv and xbox or something.

[yuandrew]

I have a inverter for operating 120 volt items such as my TV, PS-2, fluorescent light bulbs, and a desk fan. My laptop, radio, a halogen desk lamp, and phone/iPod charger plug straight into 12 volts.

Aside from the laptop when running and charging the battery, most 12 volt items don't draw more than three amps.

[RockManAU]

Nice Work!

PS Overcast doesn't matter too much with the solar panels you have in mind, they will still top up the batteries. Consider using the wind to supplement your solar later on using a turbine attached to a stepper motor as a generator or go for bigger output with an alternator. You can cut your power bill by 60% using these methods. Thanks for posting.

[bamboodrifting4u]

hehe, its like a car in a room! Awesome! I wanna try this, Save some mooolah on my bill? Oh yes.

[lpcmidst128]

Thats cool. I'm no engineer but would using one 12v car battery be the same as using two 6v batteries? What is the advantage to use two 6v batteries.

[gewehrmeister3777]

Car batteries are designed for surge current applications(i.e. the starter motor). Discharging repeatedly can cause sulfation of the lead plates and this will short out the battery cell. For applications like low voltage DC power systems you should use deep cycle batteries.

[flir67]

how long does a charge last if you use your system regular.

[yuandrew]

I never fully discharged the batteries to the point where they would be considered "dead" but it seems to last for ages on just a small halogen light or the car radio. I usually run my laptop off it for between 4 to 6 hours. My best guess is overnight.