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  • The Combat Seems a little slow...

  • @Alphawolf1003 thats A.. its fixed now..they changed it check sum other vids

  • 8 more day"s and i will be up for hours and hours and hours lol.My wife will get very mad at me spending too much time with this game.lol she will get over it tho.huhahuhahuhahuh

  • I'm apart of the Beta. its pretty amazing. the game is quiet hardware heavy and everything a hardcore Gamer wants in an MMORPG. This is Alpha of the game being recorded. 100% confirmed that this will be for PS3! but not until next year sadly. At the moment it is debatable whether or not This game will be released for xbox, due to hardware present in the system (not to start arguements with "Console kiddys") Won't be able to handle this game in a minimum of 720p.

  • This is alpha gameplay, find the E3 stuff.

  • This is Alpha if I recall. Go look at some more up to date gameplay,

  • the gameplay is so slow looks dull as hell..

  • @fahaz78 I think they call this beta?, and plus the player wasn't the must skilled lol

  • So will I have to have a PC also to play this or can it play alone on the PS3?

  • @jadams110 The Pc version will be out september 30th of this year. And The ps3 version will be out in March of next year. But yes,it is confirmed 100 % that it will be on the Ps3. Hope i helped.

  • @jadams110 give the fact that the ps3 has its own network i am presuming that it won't work when you can play or both system

  • I bet they have some sweet ass looking gear later in the game

  • just got into the Closed beta and im happy as hell :D........under nda so cant tell post anything sadly :(

  • @fluffyandEvil Hey I just got in too! Granted it says the servers aren't up yet, but I'm excited. Do you know if they're adding PvP at all?

  • Oh yes, wow was quite pathetic when it was first released, went down for 2 weeks....this game is gonna be amazing...nuff said. Already ordered my Collectors edition. They are fixing everything that people hated on 11...like unbelievable long levels and stuff. Awesome vid.

  • @graywolf2v ff14 did away w/ the leveling system anyway bud. Youre skill ups will enable you to learn new things

  • epic fight, i could piss in that guys rectum faster then he can swing his fucking sword

  • and they are going to want monthly fees for this shit? I dont think so...

  • @Joey6131995 cant half of you dumbasses relize this is a beta? wait nvm its an Alpha. and also he is a LOW level, like at a starting zone. Im pretty sure the WOW was even gayer at the start back in the alpha.

  • Wow...that was a complete waste of my time. If FFXIV dosen't let you attack more often, i am so not buying this game. And one more thing: its final fantasy, we all know it has magic and weapons!

  • The players who are demonstrating this game should be fucking killed. They're making the combat look so slow and choppy it's unbelievable. By getting these types of testers, it's showing more harm than good for the game.

  • @nate4413

    Agreed. This gameplay footage is making me believe that FF XIV allows you to attack once every 5 minutes, so I'm looking for something else now. Also, he's explaining stuff like "I have a sword, and I can attack with that. Oh, and there are spells too".

  • @narutofan9999 Yeah, basically talking like a retard Although i'm convinced the people playing the game are retards. Like you i'm also looking for other games but it seems that out of all the games i'm hoping to play ( Tera, SWTOR, Rift, GW2, etc ) this will be coming out the earliest. So looks like i'll be playing this until something better comes along because if the gameplay is exactly how it's shown i don't know how long i'm going to be able to take it.

  • @nate4413

    Actually, I meant looking for another gameplay trailer. My little rant was more against the footage than against the actual game, cause basically this shows NOTHING of the game. The games I'm really looking forward to right now are C9 and Vindictus though.

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  • everyone needs to look when it was posted obviously the gameplay will of changed in that many moths.. -_-

  • These videos make this game look... not so good

  • @MyBandZach i don't think SE knew they were being filmed :P

  • All my computers have AMD chips in them and never have died. My vote goes to the PC

  • omfg stop putting up megaboring gameplay videos this makes me so NOT want to play this although ima big ff fan

  • the gameplay is like FF12 rite? which is good but i dont see an ATB bar or a menu were it shows the character's status whts up with that?

  • I bet this game is going to be really badass. No MMO i've ever played was ever as good as FFXI. I bet this game gets released pretty soon too. There isn't much left on the official website that has to be revealed.

  • How do I sign up for Alpha testing? Im a FFXI player

  • @InTheKnow88

    Go to the ffxiv website. There will be a big SIGN UP FOR BETA link as soon as you choose your region.

  • @InTheKnow88 you cant anymore

  • Ugh, why are there Black people in FFXIV? To cater to all 2 Black people that are going to get the game? Black people ruin the mystique of fiction settings.

  • @WesternImperium i'm sorry, but he's right

  • @WesternImperium lololololol I almost want to say you're right

  • I wonder if you can play it with controller like FFXI, hope yes, would be awesome. And got to admit graphics are incredible. Cant wait to try this game ^^

  • seems to me like they were on a quest to kill a certain amount of Dodoes and pucks, other than that... looks great, but they need to work out on how your character stops when you tell it to stop cus it looks like they were ice skating.

  • deberan tener como minimo 3 GB de ram y las ultima de las tarjeta de video para que pueda correr bien eso creo............

  • I really hope they increase the pace of combat. The delay looks as slow as FFXI. Watching your character stand there for several seconds doing nothing gets old. =/

  • LOL BLACK PEOPLE

  • Everyone is trying to compare systems for the wrong reasons.

    ANYONE who has played ANY MMO knows that PC > console.

    FFXI as example, Macros on PC = Win. End of discussion.

  • not to show u up or anyhting but i played ffxi on ps2 and 360 and we can definitely make macros too...books of em

  • action looks kind of slow.

    on the ps3 vs PC, ps3 uses a lightweight OS and won't have hogware clogging it up, it's not all about optimization, it's about running a clean platform so you have less power used up by other crap.

    You need a PC and a ps3 anyways for all the good games. the only console you don't need is a SuXbox, unless you want halo 3 and nothing else.

  • This looks nothing like the alpha footage musta made a bunch of changes, I have it posed on my site...google Hinturu to check it out

  • If they get this game polished I'm there...

  • play 13 and the psp version.

    that crisis core is good game;)

  • i dont know whether to get this or not.. getin ffXIII 4 sure tho

  • Putain c'est beau... pour du mmorpg ça déchire en tout cas, WOW peut aller se rhabiler :D

  • @pixyia

    Sadly, no leveling isn't and won't be there. however you will spent time skilling up and improving your weapons and character. Just think of it as FF-X which makes sense but at the same time kinda sucks i loved FFXI for leveling and partying. in FFXI was all about best gear and you call straight out tell who is well geared and who isn't. still we shall see what it'll bring to the table

  • Aye the combat looks hell of good though. More realistic I think

  • lol damn blammers everywhere where they are only commenting on the value of game even though its beta or prototype-.-

  • looking pretty good considering its still in the alpha stage... haters will hate though...

  • @jradc2551 AHAHAHA loser itsthe best online graphic u nerd

  • @Bliizzz23 Really? Dude I'm looking at this video and its terrible. I hope it's the TV they're taping it off of.. By the way, I'm a nerd? Go fuck yourself bud.

  • @jradc2551

    No, you'll have to excuse Bliizzz23 he did not mean to say nerd I'll apologize for him. He actually meant to say your literly fucking retarded if you can't tell drifferent and whats going on this video...............

  • come-on are you kidding me? You really think that how the the graphics will look like? are you watching this thru youtube like all of us? I dont want to say ur stupid but COME ON..

  • @jradc2551

    Its a video of a tv,you can see it by the framing that move compared to the chat bar, thats why the image get jumpy and the color keep changing

  • @ all replies

    i KNOW FUCK that's what i said and for some reason you're all calling me retarded.. I specifically said yeah its probably the TV they're taping off of because its all blurry and fuzzy I'm not an idiot but it seems like everyone who said I'm retarded and a "NERD" are the idiotic ones who obviously cant fucking read.

  • I hope by the time this comes out all my studies will be done and I will have a full time job to pay for the sub :)

    haha, isn't it sad that when I finally leave school and enter the workforce, all I want to do is go back to a virtual life?

  • Those graphics scare me o.o ... I afraid that my pc will not run it x(

  • Same here, you need a pc that can run high end games right now to probably run this on medium settings...I wonder if you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to a PS3 and play this lol

  • this game looks hella boring

  • i dno about the turn based attacks....it works well in regular rpg games since ur controller 3+ characters but as for mmo ur only controlling one? turn based for 1 character? that seems harsh...

  • its good that thear going to the old medievel ff but wouldnt that be good in a real ff game not a mmorpg

  • @Cainzgamez lol you know i have the same thought you had lately with the ff series. why arent they going medievel anymore. always this sci-fi stuff.

  • For a game like this, I'm going to have to say PC > PS3. I don't have a PS3 but even if I did I would play on my Computer. I feel limited when I use a console for games like this. What I found works really well is using a USB controller (like 360 remote on a PC) so you get the console feel, but can still use things like the keyboard, mouse, hotkeys, etc.

    I suppose you could just use a keyboard on the PS3, but w/e lol

  • A PS3 also can make use of both a mouse and a keyboard.

  • as it is right now, PS3 will play the game better than most computers and not be limited by anything. I prefer PC as well but I'm just making a point.

  • imo, consoles are always limited. PC's can be upgraded. If my Laptop isn't enough for a smooth FFXIV experience, I can run out and buy a better video card. The only way to upgrade a PS3 is to break it open

  • You can upgrade the Hard drive without breaking it open, but thats the only thing. BUT the hardware that is in the PS3 is currently top of the line so it will be a few years before graphics will be limited at all.

  • Are you joking?!

  • Am I joking about what?

  • true, but consoles are more readily available to everyone. and theyre cheaper.

  • @UponxAxNightmare Not exactly cheaper in the long run, I think. You can upgrade your ram for $100, but a new console is going to be that x6

  • Iiii don't think that's quite accurate. The computer version of the game always plays better than the console. In terms of graphics and looks. If your talking about fluidity in the game play it self, then that's dependant on the type of computer you have, ISP and internet connection speed.

  • Name a computer then under $2k that can run any game as well as the ps3 can. Gateway FX gaming laptop (mine) runs games almost flawlessly...until you compare them to my PS3 (which cost 1/3 the price). AC 1 ran fine on both until the fight sequences where the computer was slightly slow at times compared to the PS3. As I said, as it stands right now, the PS3 is better than most computers (unless you go way past $6k which is ridiculous)

  • Woah woah you never said anything about price*. I'm arguing with what was given to me via your post, if that's what you meant* to say well you should have said that to begin with. And btw you said "the game" alluding to FFXIV not any* game. My statement is still true.

    And I think the Gateway FX720 could run XIV if you swap out the 8800 default video card for a 9800, or better yet super clocked version. I played crysis on medium settings a year ago with that shit. Only costs around 1k.

  • No doubt it could run FF14, but once again, compared side by side with a PS3, the PC would be slightly slower at times. Now, if one were to take and delete all unnecessary programs and tools from their computer until they were left with only what is needed to run FF14, then the PC would probably perform faster. As it stands; however, PC's have more data to process from various different programs that HAVE to run for the PC to function. This is an advantage the PS3's don't have. Still, PC ftw.

  • Agreed. Every time I play a processor intensive game I usually hit Ctrl. Alt. Delete and shutdown any unnecessary running programs, like explorer.exe.

    Were all waiting for this game to come out, I think that's something we can all 100% agree on lol.

    I signed up for the Beta release, hope I get in. Ahhh but your on PS3 right? Well.. when the game hits shelf's sometime this year maybe I'll see you on there bro, later.

  • nah man I signed up for the PC beta lol. I have all 3 systems so yea. I'm def getting this for my PC just so I can play it while in class/at work. =)

  • Sorry I meant to say FX7020.

  • your a dumbass.

    first of all 50% of people that are gaming on a pc are probably not buying a pre-built computer. they're probably custom built with better graphics card and a better system in all than a ps3. my ps3 aint shit compared to the graphics my pc can put out and it didnt cost over 1grand

  • well then excuse me. Idk where you are from, but here in AL, US, you can't get a computer for less $400 with the same computing power as a PS3, let alone 1 grand.

  • I'm from Canada and I order all my parts online from websites varying from Canada, and the US maybe you should look around more often

  • Here's the trouble with online here, large shipping costs. For example, I could a $45 HD online, but the shipping is almost $30 without taxes added to either. OR I could go and buy the same HD for $60 from a store. My statement still stands however. You won't find a PC cheaper than a PS3 that runs like a PS3.

  • PS3 and 360s are essentially mid-range computers in terms of Processing power and Graphics. Of course you'll spend more on a good PC than you will on the consoles, but you can do a HELL of a lot more with a PC than the consoles, and you also have the advantage of not having to go out and buy whole new systems when technology changes.

  • @BackdoorSub7 impossible the ps3 has dual quad core processors running at 4.0 ghz speed and nvidea 512 mb graphics card sure your graphics card may match but your computer has nowhere near the ram and computing power a ps3 has while you may have the hardware there isn't pc software support for it yet...I mean c'mon it has 6 gigs of ram running at 1022 mhz speed as well that's pretty ridiculous for 300 bucks

  • @BackdoorSub7 Being someone who has spent thousands of dollars on consoles and multiple computers you need to get your head out of your ass. $400 USD is not going to get you anything but a pitiful machine that has a hard time computing Microsoft Word and the Internet.

    The PS3 has a the power of 3.2ghz of processing and an amazing graphics card. The graphics card that would be comparable on a PC would run $150+ and the CPU would run $150+ that doesn't include everything else needed to run a PC.

  • @deilax exactly...the PS3 is better than any other PC that u can buy for $299....

  • @chickensaurusrex711 Every PS3 uses the exact same base hardware, so they can spend a ton of time optimizing an engine for it. They can't do it as specifically with a PC engine. Period. A console can pump out beautiful scenes and cost less, there's no arguing the other way... unless one wants to be entirely wrong.

  • Amen to that. Im custom building and test running as we speak.

  • @chickensaurusrex711 50% i highly doubt that mate

  • @chickensaurusrex711 Most pcs are pre built pc's that have had little added bits

  • @atvkid11031 Yes but if you are playing a game like final fantasy 14 and do play alot of games on your pc I doubt this person will have a pre-built computer. Anybody that does gaming on the pc will invest into a custom.

  • @BackdoorSub7 you know that you ask something strange,you can play games with a pc of 500-800 € as good as the ps3.but you must not buy it complete but seperated..you must know that ps3 runs games on 1280x720 and the "2k" pc will play them on 1920x1200,that's a crazy amount of more polygons.

  • @BackdoorSub7 Not only did u compare a laptop vs a PS3 u compared a PC vs console. Spec for spec a home built PC will knock the shit out of the PS3.(if u know what ur doing) A PS3 only has to do one thing PLAY GAMES! PC>PS3

  • @addham82 Homebuilt is a little different than store bought. Sure, you could self build a PC for the price of the old PS3s and it run better, but u can't build a PC for the price of $299 and it run better than a PS3. Yes PC > PS3 always, BUT if you are low on cash and need a good gaming rig that can also browse the internet, PS3 > PC

  • @BackdoorSub7 I can build you a computer for 700, that will run the latest PC games in max graphics. A ps3 can't do that, because its running on a 4 year old graphics technology, whereas new video cards (tech) come out for PC's every 8 to 12 months. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.

  • @Pro902 That is for $700. Build me one for less than $299. Oh wait you can't? kthxbye

  • @BackdoorSub7 That $700 can do things the ps3 will never be able to, including making games and your homework, ignorant fool.

  • @Pro902 You are missing the point "fool." @ $299, you won't find a pc that is better for GAMING than a PS3. My laptop is $1.2k and it blows the ps3 out of the water, BUT if i were to get a laptop or desktop for x<$299 then it would be complete shit compared to the PS3.

  • @BackdoorSub7 for $299 it would still have better graphics than a ps3

  • @bernie23232323232323 I doubt it seeing as how a GC is around $400 in itself (one that is better than the PS3's anyway) and even if you did manage to find one cheaper, graphics mean nothing if you don't have the processing power or the ram to keep lag down. Not to mention hard drive space. You sir are a failure

  • @BackdoorSub7 LOL you can get a 9800gtx+ graphics card for only $100... I have one and i can run crysis warhead dx10 max settings w/ 30 fps. You can also get a quad core processor amd athlon 2.4ghz for under $94 also. Than you can get 4gb ddr2 ram for under $60 and a decent hard drive for about $50 than spend another $100 on the rest of the parts and you will be able to play crysis while a ps3 wont be able to

  • @bernie23232323232323 that is still over $299. Also, where are you getting your parts at? A decent HD for me is over 320...which will be around $60-70...a decent graphics card on the NVIDIA site is around $300...AMD eh? AMD is complete shit. I bet you own a dell computer don't you...2.4ghz is less than that of the PS3...4 GB of ram will cost over $80 (at least where I am) closer to $120...so again, you won't find a PC for less than $299 that runs like a PS3.

  • @BackdoorSub7 ps3 has 3.2 ghz single core processor, this pc would have 2.4ghz quad core processor. And i lol @ you calling amd shit when you're comparing it to a piece of shit consoles. this is all from newegg

  • @bernie23232323232323 AMD is shit. My last 2 comps had AMD and they failed. This one is an intel and works a hell of a lot better. Newegg...yea 4 GB of ram on there is no less than $84. You also have to take into account the shipping. I said it before and I'll say it again. You won't get a PC for less than $299 so stop failing kid.

  • @BackdoorSub7 well no shit i wont get a good gaming pc for $299 but unless you don't need a computer at all what's the point in buying a console and a pc seperately when you can have both in one? it's just stupid to buy a console.

  • @bernie23232323232323 if you only have $400...and u need a gaming rig that can also surf the web, the PS3 is the way to go. If you need a computer for work and shit, dont get a gaming comp. You will want to get a cheap ass $200 laptop then buy a $299 PS3 and it will still be cheaper than a gaming PC. Mind you..I have a gaming PC...a PS3...a 360 and a "work" pc...but thats where i stand

  • @BackdoorSub7 DAYUM!!

  • @Pro902 Well considering the PS3 is years old. At launch the PS3 had one of the fastest video cards on the market in it, along with games correctly exclusively programmed to take full advantage of the cell processor. The PS3 is still a beast. Look at some of the exclusives just starting to come out on the PS3. They're properly designed for it. And they all kill anything on the xbox. Uncharted 2, undoubtedly the best game out. Looks beautiful. Really the system is just starting to take off.

  • @BackdoorSub7 Well bro I agree with you for the most part, a PS3 would be the cheapest way to go for quality gaming. Especially this one. But my desktop runs games better than my PS3 and I only have $950 dumped in the case itself. It is cheaper to go the route of the PS3. I don't recommend gaming laptops to anyone. Hard to keep a laptop updated. and the cost isn't worth it. Desktop PC's are easier to keep up to date by replacing parts at a time. and much more affordable.

  • Ok dude if PS3 can play this with PC im getting the ps3 one :D

  • awesome if the servers are connected then im for sure gonna get it for the ps3. and this game is gonna be hella massive. but comparing WOW and this is incomparable. everyone has their own taste in gaming. i personal hate wows cartooning style. but other people like it so its pretty much up to the gamer. gonna be awesome when it comes out. anyone heard from the beta?? have they choose ppl already??

  • The PS3 players, and the PC users, all will play on the same server (there is interconnectivity).

    WoW is dead when this comes out.

  • better graphics then wow but for sum reason it seems like its kinda be kinda lame.

  • Give it some time, all ive seen thats actual game play looked lame too. But thats because its alpha.

    They probably don't have all the animations in yet, nor i hope is it running at its full speed, because it seems that the fighting is even slower then FFXI. Or i haven't played in such a long time i forgot how slow it really was. ^^

    So in the end it looks lame because its just a work in progress.

  • i hope ur right cuz i am so excited to switch to this mmo but my heart is crushed from it atm. ty

  • the developers said that they only had the games graphics at %50 in the alpha test, could you only emagine what it will be like at %100

  • O i can. Loved FFXI an this so far looks close enough to make me happy.

    I can't wait to see some later game play when the Devs say the graphics are almost at 100% what they could be.

    Or some actual game play mechanics lol.

  • Soooo is it just me, or does this game look like FF11 in better graphics? It looks like that taru standing next to the hume is a white mage in nobles tunic and healing staff.

     So we are moving on to a new game thats like the old one minus the characters we spent 5years building.

  • shame... looks like wow set up

  • WoW followed FFXI setup.

  • FF11 Online came out before WOW they copied FF11 Online

  • @GodsWarrior2012 yeah, WAY BEFORE WoW

  • this game looks.... STUNNING!

  • THIS GAME IS IN ALPHA BETA!!!!....Its new and wait for it borfe giving bad comments...

  • cant wait for this game. gonna get it for the ps3 since my comp wouldnt be able to play it =-(. i wonder if the pc and ps3 users would be able to play together. thats my only concern. and about the 360 release. i did remember reading on kotaku that they might release it on the 360. but that was a while back.

  • yes the PS3 and PC users will be connected to the same servers

  • @finalsent

    PS3 and PC users will be able to play together :)

  • me I have to wait till the ps3 version to come out. My laptop wont play the pc version my laptop is too slow.

  • that's hot

  • (Help Me Out!) I have a question about the battle system. I hear it's not just sitting still while you watch your character hit the A.I to death anymore. Is this true? If so, to what extent is this truth pulled, meaning is it like lets play devil may cry hit X Y to do a combo, or in a sense, keep pressing X mash on that enemy? I'll keep looking this up, thanks in advance for answers.

  • i think the website said it was command attacks simular to older final fantasy but dosnt allow you to do nothing its supposed to make the game more fun...the bosses may be easyer...

  • ah yes....the extreme grind of ff11.....and yes...the update on the exp gained from mobs was implemented too late...there I said it.......Like it or not you could solo in 11...except that getting to that point falls in line with what Kaous10 wrote.....you basically had to rely heavily on ppl ....and the scheduling, just how many linkshells broke apart b/c of that.......dynamis anyone?...

  • hope its released for 360 too only liked to play 11 on console wont be worth geting a ps3 (no fan boys not saying its better just dont want one kinda like a hot girl vomiting in your car you might get laid but you got to clean that up in the morning)

  • @reno666 Your analogy sucked. fag

  • @reno666 It will not be released for the 360. People need to understand that this game is next generation. It will look nice on the PS3 but only top end PC hardware will bring out the full potential of this game. To put it on the 360 would do it injustice.

  • ANOTHER FAIL !

    Square are planning to release it for the 360 (not that i would play it on a 360) - they are having problems working out with m$ the xbox live gold policy (ie square dont want ppl to pay 2 subs to play their game) - although the release version will almost definately be ps3 and pc only -

    Hiromichi Tanaka has commented that this is the main reason there will not be xbox 360 at launch (you can verify the citation wiki>ffxiv)

  • @bristolmatt28 If so it really changes nothing. Personally I would be very happy if FFXIV is released on every platform since that would = larger community but I still stand by what I say. I have a PS3 but I'll be playing it on my PC to get the best out of it.

  • @efknight you stand by what you say??? so you stand by what you said that ffxiv wont be coming out on xbox - despite the fact that Tanaka is publicly said at gamescom - and i quote "Because 360 has its own policy with Xbox Live that is different from [the] internet, that's something we're in discussions with Microsoft [about], to come to an agreement,"

    .....hmmm - a simple, "im sorry i was mistaken!" would have been better efknight :p

  • @efknight

    Well where do you get your sources? Last time you checked....where?

    "Dont get me wrong", i am not doubting your epic game knowledge.......xD but:

    On 22/04/2009 Square Enix announced that the population of Vana'diel topped 2 million. Cited here (from the ffxi official website):

    **ok cant get the link in but wiki ffxi and ctrl - f 2 million and follow the citation link to the official ffxi website who released report on 22/04/2009**

    So, "Don't get me wrong" efknight but - FAIL lol

  • @bristolmatt28 mmodata(dot)net, click subscriptions 150k-1mil.  Companies exaggerate all the time about their subscriptions it wont get them in trouble. NCSoft bragged about having 3mil subscriptions in the east alone for Aion when clearly they only hit it AFTER it was released for the west.

  • @efknight ok......so what you're saying is that Suare Enix deliberately lied to their shareholders and released a press statement declaring their subscriber numbers were 2 million????? hmmm and where do you think mmodata(dot)net get their info from? surely the only people that know how many subscribers ffxi has.....is Square - I personally will believe a press release in 2009 from a reputable gaming company over mmo(dot)net but maybe i'm crazy.......

  • @bristolmatt28 Now you just sound like a fanboy. What you read on their website is an announcement. Shareholders can see how many subscriptions there are at any time themselves. Yes they probably did lie about it. mmodata(dot)net is usually always accurate and the person that updates it says you can challenge the info if you want.

  • ok now you are sounding like a conspiracy theorist !!! why lie? i mean 2 million global isnt very big - why not say 10 million or 11 million !?!?! In any case, I am not a fan boy - I am willing to put down any comapny I have no loyalty to anyone! (I am a computer games dev masters student on placement in london so i do have loyalty to one production house - but its not square!) But I bring you back to my point - where do mmo(dot)net get their info from?

  • ...because as far as i can tell - only ffxi would have that data....... unless they poll every single subscriber? ffxi may give the data willingly to such websites, their figures will be a matter of public record!.....anyway mmo(dot)net or official announcement from ffxi themselves (7 or 8 years into the game i might add - just as they about to replace it with xiv) - perosnally i think you like to make sweeping statements without the info to back them up - but hey - we both know who's right :p

  • People need to understand that the PS3 is just as lacking as the 360.

  • @DanSkoglund91 On the contrary, the only thing the 360 can compare to is memory retention. It loses flat out to processing power (which I think was a little obvious to begin with). As with computers, you can't slap on rims to a beat up honda and call it a fancy car. The whole package has to be new and improved. Thats whats required when you want to play a next gen game. Microsoft is just focusing on adding rims to their 360 (Natal etc) when they need a brand new system.

  • @efknight - agreed on PS3 vs XBOX360 ( memory retention i assume you mean the 10mb of eDRAM that acts as a buffer for the GPU) - The PS3's crowning glory and saving grace though has to be Blu Ray - M$ were crazy to go with a DVD format but hey ho - they on a 10 year life cycle so dont expect to see XBOX720 or whatever for a few years yet! - Incedentally, there is little difference in hardware between the 2 consoles, the PS3 CPU has excelent bandwidth tho (but its GPU is nvidia 7 series based!)

  • OOOH wrong again XxArkhamAsylumxX. Final Fantasy XI wasnt really regarded as an experiment (unless you count 7 years of successfully taking subscription fees and developing new content an 'experiment"). It still has 2 millions subscribers - 7 years after release. That is no mean feat in the MMO world. The gameplay and unique job system seem to have kept people playing, despite the last gen graphics. Maybe you would class that as failing horribly....

    Nonetheless, I am sure you could do better...

  • atleast this game will be better than WoW both graphics and gameplay

    ...right?

    also know how to fix a ps2 fan? or convert it to a 26/55gb ps3?

    and how do you go back to playing ffxi again?

  • well, id like FFXII graphics and WoW gameplay, would be awesome game

  • Yeah FFXI managed to hook me for about 3 good years. But then I realized I wouldn't be able to get the shit I wanted to get done in a timely fashion because you have to rely too heavily on people in that game and work around their schedules to do shit. Eventually that shit took its toll on me and after 2 75 jobs and still not being able to get COP storyline done I said to hell with it and canceled. That shit has turned me off to MMO's in general, FF is still my shit though as a series.

  • you'll find that in any MMO end game. This game is suposed to be a little more user friendly than XI but I hope they dint make it to easy *coughwowcough*

  • Yeah I aint even talking about end game though, I was just trying to do the damn story line.

  • I don't know who gave you a thumbs down, resulting in a -1, but I'm going to give you a thumbs up making it 0. What Kaous10 has stated is true. FFXI depends to much on parties. I've played FFXI for six years and you end up doing a lot of meaningless shouts for parties, missions, and even simple quest that might require a few extra people. Not everyone is helpful in the MMO world. It's hard to get anything especially sky, dynamis, HNM, Sea, anything really.. without the right group of people.

  • @bristolmatt28 last I checked FFXI clocked in at 500,000 subscribers, Not 2 mil. Don't get me wrong FFXI was my favorite MMO even today but lets not exaggerate for the sake of argument.

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  • how can u say FFXI failed its still going since its release tell if im wrong but was it 5-6 years? and is still going strong how is that failed?