apples and oranges. assuming its a LS block u have a minimum of 5.7L displacement, compared to 2L. on a good tune a 20B (3 rotor) will see 700whp at 18psi. Unfortunately the rotary has received a bad rap because increase boost without proper tuning to back it. yes they are a bit more delicate, but its worth it.
if you turbo it. so you havent and then its speculation, im sure its semi accurate b/c i know a guy wuth a TTLS1 FD and it makes 602whp at 9psi. if you read what i said there was nothing negative, i just said that you can make very similar power out of a 20B.
i have seen turbo v8s and turbo 20Bs and they can make very similar numbers. the point of my post was that those numbers can and have been done on a 20B with similar boost.
@VulcanAutoworx well its not speculation when i go to the f-150 lightning forums which the engine is a 351w same gen of motor as mine cause mine came outta a 95 f-150 lightning people getting 600-650 rwhp thats with 25% drivetrain loss since its a auto tranny with a manual tranny ill be in 700's of rwhp like 730ish so its not just speculation its really researched
like i said its probably accurate, my whole point is that 20Bs are capable of very similar numbers at similar levels of boost. so your initial point of "why not swap a turbo V8? b/c it can make X hundred hp with Y psi" the answer is b/c a 20B is also capable of similar numbers and you keep the rx a rotary. throw a large displacement V8 in any car and its a muscle car. and yes i feel the vette is more of a muscle car than sports car b/c of the v8. 6.2L v10-12 would be more fiting.
ok? and? so do you want to be like 90%+ of America (not counting non-performance oriented vehicles) or stick out? search a video of a 20B that revs high. a 20B at 9000 rpm is awesome. imo way better than any V8, its more in the realm of how v12 sounds
@VulcanAutoworx i understand where your coming from... but my opinion is biased towards v8 because i like the sound of them and theres no other engine out there in the world making 8,000+hp just v8 top fuel dragster makes around 8-10,000 hp im sure alot of engines could do it with the engineering but whos spending 1 million+ dollars on their engines... I DONT SEE ANYONE DOING THAT
I have a built and cammed amc360, that im about to stroke to a 390, so i LOVE the v8 sound too and am completely unbiased. but those 8k+hp top fuel dragsters, their engines only last 1-3 miles.. so comparing a street legal daily driven v8 to that is like comparing apples and and old tire at the bottom of a lake.
I love the rotary sound, its like watching f1, a screaming engine that redlines well into the 5 digit range
@VulcanAutoworx in no way am I choosing sides or anything but even if the 20b could reach similar hp figures of a v8 it wouldnt come close in terms of torque hahaha thats what v8s are known for.
@burritomaker69 i know a guy makin 649whp, and 487lb/ft, thats keeping the factory luxuries like ac. those hp numbers are better than you would see out of a LS7 with cams, and tune. and close to what you would get out of it tq wise. you might get a bit better tq out of a LS7 but were not talking leaps and bounds like everyone acts like it is.
i dont care to much when people bash on rotaries, im an adult and can take it. what i do hate is when people make uninformed claims that are inaccurate.
@burritomaker69 thats what v8's are known for? no, the term V8 simply describes an engine layout, and its nothing special, tell me why they have 10 - 12L inline 6 turbo diesels in big trucks? or even the cummins diesel, among others..... in my view, inline 6's are better known for torque for their relative size, and v8's are known only to those ignorant enough to not know how an engine runs and run their mouth about what rubbish they hear from other ignorant douches blabing about "v8 muscle" bs
@enigmaPL I in no way support american muscle. Im just saying in most sports cars that follow the trend of high torque in the low rpms they tend to lean towards a v8 engine layout........because they find they can achieve moderate levels of torque in the low rpms.......
@burritomaker69 im not saying you in particular, but just pointing out the "v8" trend among those who don't even know what they're talking about, and how there are other examples for good torque
Guys, i have a question.Why is Amemiya's styles SO GOD DAMN UGLY??? The worst ive seen in person is a silver one that looks like a Panoz Esperante! friggen garbage unless aerodynamics and your racing.
Ive got a 92 fd right now and hope to do a all Aluminum 3rotor from a specailist near where I live ( he made the first 3 rotor all aluminum in the world, best Apex seals also), My fave car in the whole world and will own for the rest of my days..RX7KID for life!!
That centered muffler looks ridiculous... It looks like an anus just hanging in the middle of the car like that... matter of fact is sounds just like one too.
I personally am in love with this car. Amemiya comes up with the sickest shit, and this is a pristine example of that. i mean a three rotor with a T-88 & Vmount intercooler this would be such a beast on the track. Regardless of Circuit / Drag.
WOW :-O Nice car. I use to own a 1993 RX-7 R1. I really miss that car. In 1998, I ran it up to 175mph on I-25 between Pueble and Trinidad and I still had 1,500 rpm left to go in fifth gear. I'm lucky I didn't get caught. I would have gone to jail for sure. Sold it in 2000 before I went to Germany for a 3 year tour. I regret doing that as I could have really ran it hard on the German Autobahns :(
@Iluv2raceit an r1 won't do 175mph, you sound like you're full of shit. this is coming from someone who drives a modded rx7 fd with +325 hp and it still won't do 175mph.
@itsumonihon again you stupid fucking dumb cunt how do you know what fucking diff he has and what fucking ratio that has? How do you know he dosen't have something like a ppg dogbox or even if the gear ratios are standard?? Shut the fuck up before you open your mouth you piece of shit.
@90sideways because he had an R1 which means he fucking kept it stock as an r1 not some random transmission, why don't you stfu you teenaged zitpopping negro!
@itsumonihon STOP assuming you stupid downy pikey piece of shit you don't know crap about his car so fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself. . You're a fucking peasant, get your knee guards on and get on your knees you silly fuck you assume everything. I assume you're a gay fag, and I bet I'm right. We aren't all niggers like yourself silly fag.
agree'd if this goof doesnt no were the plugs are thers a good chance he doesnt own a car at all. you tube is full of ppl that think they no more then they do
@kdoeone i must say i don't know much about engines at all.. i think the spark plugs measure the mixture of air and fuel or something? not sure really. still i wouldn't mind having 3rotor 20B Mazda Rx7 running at least 1.2bar pressure, and a custom exhaust... Ok i lied i know a little bit about engines.. I would give a certain left article to own a Rx7 like that but for the time being I'll just play around with the 13BT VW Beetle that I have.
Meh, to each his own. I personally loved the sound of the car, very unique. My brother had a ported FD w/ a straight pipe and i didnt particularly like the sound very much. A bit too obnoxious.
LS1 with ~6 litres vs. 20B ~2 litres...V.E. for the win !!!! Not to mention the 4 rotor beasts easily put out +1000 in single turbo form, besides ive never heard of a LS1 being outlawed from LeMans for being too bad ass
stop with the comments like a put a ls1 in it. its a fucking mazda r(rotary)x7. go look up some videos of corvettes. obvioulsy this car would fucking pwn a ls1 or they wouldnt of went the the 100,000 dollars to build this car up.
13b doesnt weight 425lbs, bare block 13b weight less than 200lbs and with all aluminium side housings its only 110lbs.engine itself is very light but intake,turbos,IC piping is heavy.20b itself also isnt that heavy its around 330lbs.Yes, 20b is longer than ls1 but almost in every swap,engine is put further backwards.You can keep perfect balance and yes,you can do it also with LS series.Please dont hate other motors, there are many engines that are MUCH heavier and less powerful than LS series:)
lol iv seen 20bs pull alot harder then ls1 600 hp feels more like 900 in a lightwieght rx7 plus they sound somuch meaner! ls1s sound like any old v8 crap but nothing sounds like a 20b
yes, sounds is similar because firing pattern is same. BUT i highly doubt you heard all aluminium ls1s push that power...cast iron thats another story and another weight.
just looks to ricey for my taste... sorry
remzroller151 6 months ago
fuck v8 rx-7's :D nice 3 rotor
723STONER 8 months ago
my snow blower sounds better...lol
57superchevy 9 months ago
car looks like it has a butthole
mathyu0179123232 9 months ago
crazy bodykit
thetalkingelement 10 months ago
theres also only one company making rotary engines, and how many that make a V8? so thats a skewed sample
VulcanAutoworx 10 months ago
i got a v8 rx7 if i had 18 psi i would have around 900 crank hp and 730 rwhp
'its a 79 rx7 Tremec t-5 tranny 8.8 rearend lsd
Diminish420 10 months ago
@Diminish420
apples and oranges. assuming its a LS block u have a minimum of 5.7L displacement, compared to 2L. on a good tune a 20B (3 rotor) will see 700whp at 18psi. Unfortunately the rotary has received a bad rap because increase boost without proper tuning to back it. yes they are a bit more delicate, but its worth it.
VulcanAutoworx 10 months ago
@VulcanAutoworx im the first 351w v8 1st gen rx7 and if i turbo my rx7 i got 900 hp what about that? thats with 17-19 psi
Diminish420 10 months ago
@Diminish420
if you turbo it. so you havent and then its speculation, im sure its semi accurate b/c i know a guy wuth a TTLS1 FD and it makes 602whp at 9psi. if you read what i said there was nothing negative, i just said that you can make very similar power out of a 20B.
i have seen turbo v8s and turbo 20Bs and they can make very similar numbers. the point of my post was that those numbers can and have been done on a 20B with similar boost.
VulcanAutoworx 10 months ago
@VulcanAutoworx well its not speculation when i go to the f-150 lightning forums which the engine is a 351w same gen of motor as mine cause mine came outta a 95 f-150 lightning people getting 600-650 rwhp thats with 25% drivetrain loss since its a auto tranny with a manual tranny ill be in 700's of rwhp like 730ish so its not just speculation its really researched
Diminish420 10 months ago
@Diminish420
like i said its probably accurate, my whole point is that 20Bs are capable of very similar numbers at similar levels of boost. so your initial point of "why not swap a turbo V8? b/c it can make X hundred hp with Y psi" the answer is b/c a 20B is also capable of similar numbers and you keep the rx a rotary. throw a large displacement V8 in any car and its a muscle car. and yes i feel the vette is more of a muscle car than sports car b/c of the v8. 6.2L v10-12 would be more fiting.
VulcanAutoworx 10 months ago
@VulcanAutoworx but no rotary will have the sound of a tuned v8
Diminish420 10 months ago
@Diminish420
ok? and? so do you want to be like 90%+ of America (not counting non-performance oriented vehicles) or stick out? search a video of a 20B that revs high. a 20B at 9000 rpm is awesome. imo way better than any V8, its more in the realm of how v12 sounds
VulcanAutoworx 10 months ago
@VulcanAutoworx i understand where your coming from... but my opinion is biased towards v8 because i like the sound of them and theres no other engine out there in the world making 8,000+hp just v8 top fuel dragster makes around 8-10,000 hp im sure alot of engines could do it with the engineering but whos spending 1 million+ dollars on their engines... I DONT SEE ANYONE DOING THAT
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@Diminish420
I have a built and cammed amc360, that im about to stroke to a 390, so i LOVE the v8 sound too and am completely unbiased. but those 8k+hp top fuel dragsters, their engines only last 1-3 miles.. so comparing a street legal daily driven v8 to that is like comparing apples and and old tire at the bottom of a lake.
I love the rotary sound, its like watching f1, a screaming engine that redlines well into the 5 digit range
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burritomaker69 6 months ago
@VulcanAutoworx in no way am I choosing sides or anything but even if the 20b could reach similar hp figures of a v8 it wouldnt come close in terms of torque hahaha thats what v8s are known for.
burritomaker69 6 months ago
@burritomaker69 i know a guy makin 649whp, and 487lb/ft, thats keeping the factory luxuries like ac. those hp numbers are better than you would see out of a LS7 with cams, and tune. and close to what you would get out of it tq wise. you might get a bit better tq out of a LS7 but were not talking leaps and bounds like everyone acts like it is.
i dont care to much when people bash on rotaries, im an adult and can take it. what i do hate is when people make uninformed claims that are inaccurate.
VulcanAutoworx 6 months ago
@burritomaker69 thats what v8's are known for? no, the term V8 simply describes an engine layout, and its nothing special, tell me why they have 10 - 12L inline 6 turbo diesels in big trucks? or even the cummins diesel, among others..... in my view, inline 6's are better known for torque for their relative size, and v8's are known only to those ignorant enough to not know how an engine runs and run their mouth about what rubbish they hear from other ignorant douches blabing about "v8 muscle" bs
enigmaPL 5 months ago
@enigmaPL I in no way support american muscle. Im just saying in most sports cars that follow the trend of high torque in the low rpms they tend to lean towards a v8 engine layout........because they find they can achieve moderate levels of torque in the low rpms.......
burritomaker69 5 months ago
@burritomaker69 i suppose
enigmaPL 5 months ago
@enigmaPL well thats just traditionally at least you go this route as well :)
burritomaker69 5 months ago
@burritomaker69 im not saying you in particular, but just pointing out the "v8" trend among those who don't even know what they're talking about, and how there are other examples for good torque
enigmaPL 5 months ago
韓:제가 질문이 있는데 어떻게RX-8에3rotor얹는 것 가능합니까?
日:質問がありますけど、RX-8に654cc*3rotor=20bできますか?
eng:How...RX-8 Stand up 3rotor OK(or All right)?repeat~RX-8+built on+3rotor engine
balter2004 1 year ago
thats wut i tankin about baby!! japanese car is the frikin best!!
trdnismo23 1 year ago
it looks like it has a butthole
mathyu01791 1 year ago
WICKED SET UP MAN.
dbzgt545 1 year ago
lucky bastards, get to build those cars. Now, that's a job.
robsnizzle7 1 year ago
See...even the americans with the all mighty V8 use rotors :P
Engelados 1 year ago
Guys, i have a question.Why is Amemiya's styles SO GOD DAMN UGLY??? The worst ive seen in person is a silver one that looks like a Panoz Esperante! friggen garbage unless aerodynamics and your racing.
Darknights7 1 year ago
great car but riced out
Jkub101 1 year ago
@Jkub101 trust me, you wouldn't be able to afford that re amemiya kit.
carloslovesmangoes 1 year ago
@carloslovesmangoes i wouldnt want to afford that kit
Jkub101 1 year ago
Ive got a 92 fd right now and hope to do a all Aluminum 3rotor from a specailist near where I live ( he made the first 3 rotor all aluminum in the world, best Apex seals also), My fave car in the whole world and will own for the rest of my days..RX7KID for life!!
KirbSleep 1 year ago
Sweet set-up.... but I hate that body-kit.
Tuminatuh 1 year ago
the back of that car looks gay !
exhaust looks like a asshole
stresser87 1 year ago
Jesus, what a gorgeous piece of art!
s14attack 1 year ago
@s14attack maybe your asshole looks like that but I'm pretty sure most peoples dont.
Girsbestfriend 1 year ago
@Girsbestfriend what? that doesnt make sense? my ass looks like art?
s14attack 1 year ago
That centered muffler looks ridiculous... It looks like an anus just hanging in the middle of the car like that... matter of fact is sounds just like one too.
ladygodia 1 year ago
I heard Chuck Norris helped tune the FD.....
LAB4NY 1 year ago
I personally am in love with this car. Amemiya comes up with the sickest shit, and this is a pristine example of that. i mean a three rotor with a T-88 & Vmount intercooler this would be such a beast on the track. Regardless of Circuit / Drag.
jplecas 1 year ago
WOW :-O Nice car. I use to own a 1993 RX-7 R1. I really miss that car. In 1998, I ran it up to 175mph on I-25 between Pueble and Trinidad and I still had 1,500 rpm left to go in fifth gear. I'm lucky I didn't get caught. I would have gone to jail for sure. Sold it in 2000 before I went to Germany for a 3 year tour. I regret doing that as I could have really ran it hard on the German Autobahns :(
Iluv2raceit 2 years ago 14
@Iluv2raceit ehh? upgraded gear box?
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Iluv2raceit an r1 won't do 175mph, you sound like you're full of shit. this is coming from someone who drives a modded rx7 fd with +325 hp and it still won't do 175mph.
itsumonihon 1 year ago
@itsumonihon dumb fuck you don't even know what mods he's done to it could have a 26b for all you know.
90sideways 1 year ago
@90sideways i do know that the rpm figures he gave don't match an r1's transmission in 5th at 175mph, shut your face you black fuck!
itsumonihon 1 year ago
@itsumonihon again you stupid fucking dumb cunt how do you know what fucking diff he has and what fucking ratio that has? How do you know he dosen't have something like a ppg dogbox or even if the gear ratios are standard?? Shut the fuck up before you open your mouth you piece of shit.
90sideways 1 year ago
@90sideways because he had an R1 which means he fucking kept it stock as an r1 not some random transmission, why don't you stfu you teenaged zitpopping negro!
itsumonihon 1 year ago
@itsumonihon STOP assuming you stupid downy pikey piece of shit you don't know crap about his car so fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself. . You're a fucking peasant, get your knee guards on and get on your knees you silly fuck you assume everything. I assume you're a gay fag, and I bet I'm right. We aren't all niggers like yourself silly fag.
90sideways 1 year ago
@90sideways sorry what's that? i couldn't hear you with your moms thighs covering my ears
itsumonihon 1 year ago
awesome
funguy7979 2 years ago
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how do you change sparkplugs?or does the motor go out before they need changed?bullshit they only get about 60-70 before they need new seals?dumb
but i like mine
rockondon 2 years ago
they are on the side
slvdrgn3 2 years ago
you like yours? yet you dont know where the sparkplugs are on a rotary... please go die
XDRobinsonX 2 years ago 14
agree'd if this goof doesnt no were the plugs are thers a good chance he doesnt own a car at all. you tube is full of ppl that think they no more then they do
kdoeone 2 years ago
@kdoeone i must say i don't know much about engines at all.. i think the spark plugs measure the mixture of air and fuel or something? not sure really. still i wouldn't mind having 3rotor 20B Mazda Rx7 running at least 1.2bar pressure, and a custom exhaust... Ok i lied i know a little bit about engines.. I would give a certain left article to own a Rx7 like that but for the time being I'll just play around with the 13BT VW Beetle that I have.
DaiseyDieMelker 1 year ago
@XDRobinsonX lol!
Rage71000 1 year ago
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big block motor ^^
TheNiggGgga 2 years ago
I LOVE YER EXHAUST i'd put black rims
and a black hood.mines black ..love the rims,mines stock im jealous lol.nice car man
rockondon 2 years ago 2
beautiful car
mangaliewa 2 years ago
nice asshole
abominabletreachery 2 years ago 5
mr. amemiya is the god of rotaries.
TheMugenMonster 2 years ago 5
Meh, to each his own. I personally loved the sound of the car, very unique. My brother had a ported FD w/ a straight pipe and i didnt particularly like the sound very much. A bit too obnoxious.
slvdrgn3 2 years ago
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yea umm your bro doesn't compare to amemiya...
PrescriptionSeven 2 years ago
....okay?
slvdrgn3 2 years ago 5
haha what a t00l he just beaks you like he knows the car
sweetaction69 2 years ago
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the ex note isnt nice at all where is the brap sound, car looks good but the sound suxs.
finaggo 2 years ago
that it really only does that with Peripheral ports
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago 5
its a tri rotor who cares what it sounds like
xraidedlok 2 years ago
fuck of rx7 pown camaro all day long y would u want one for i would rather spend my money on a RX7
scorezz 2 years ago
A Transmission from the rx7
macbookbnr32 2 years ago
I believe the RX-7 tranny bolts right up to it.
slvdrgn3 2 years ago
LS1 with ~6 litres vs. 20B ~2 litres...V.E. for the win !!!! Not to mention the 4 rotor beasts easily put out +1000 in single turbo form, besides ive never heard of a LS1 being outlawed from LeMans for being too bad ass
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago 4
stop with the comments like a put a ls1 in it. its a fucking mazda r(rotary)x7. go look up some videos of corvettes. obvioulsy this car would fucking pwn a ls1 or they wouldnt of went the the 100,000 dollars to build this car up.
delasoul17 2 years ago 3
True. Why the fuck would someone spend 20K on a RX7 if they're going to swap it out? Go buy a goddamn Camaro. Save money, we're all happy.
JZX100Chaser 2 years ago
The reason is Camaros are not JDM and look hideous in every year comparing them to an FD or even FC rx7. lol@u for saying camaro.
djayangel 2 years ago
13b doesnt weight 425lbs, bare block 13b weight less than 200lbs and with all aluminium side housings its only 110lbs.engine itself is very light but intake,turbos,IC piping is heavy.20b itself also isnt that heavy its around 330lbs.Yes, 20b is longer than ls1 but almost in every swap,engine is put further backwards.You can keep perfect balance and yes,you can do it also with LS series.Please dont hate other motors, there are many engines that are MUCH heavier and less powerful than LS series:)
999miki 2 years ago
lol iv seen 20bs pull alot harder then ls1 600 hp feels more like 900 in a lightwieght rx7 plus they sound somuch meaner! ls1s sound like any old v8 crap but nothing sounds like a 20b
twinturboteen18 3 years ago 6
ive heard of ls1s with 2500+ hp...
then can stand more max hp then a 20b...
to me a 20b sounds pretty similar to a 3 cyl 2 stroke
mageac 2 years ago
yes, sounds is similar because firing pattern is same. BUT i highly doubt you heard all aluminium ls1s push that power...cast iron thats another story and another weight.
999miki 2 years ago
well the aluminum ls1 weighs roughly 400 pounds, while the iron ls is about 480-500 ish
while even a 13b weighs about 425.... so i would assume a 20 would weigh at least 600+
not so much of a weight difference there ....
and not only is a 20b heavier then a ls1, its also longer and causes a huge weight shift in an rx7, ruining the handling.
mageac 2 years ago
that has around 600whp, a rx8 made 657whp with a 3 rotor single turbo
XxSaMiRxXrx8 3 years ago
a stock ls1 would lose.
rhettdec 3 years ago 4
VERY NICE UPLOAD! very beautiful machine as well. and about the LS1 it might win but only in a straight away. if even it were tuned equally.
BDlu3 3 years ago
the ls1 would loose. the ls1 is a lot more heavy. the rotar makes more power per liter than any other motor.
ok333 2 years ago
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Pule3 2 years ago
if I ever get filthy fucking rich I'm buying one of these
nyumetsu 3 years ago
Revvvvv it, revvvvvv ittttt yyyyyyeeeaaaaa
KenDiriwan 3 years ago
amemiya's cars are so nice..
ThaFabolousLyfe 3 years ago
20B>ls1
erextacy 3 years ago 3
Whoa now, i think he was just entertaining a thought. No need to get defensive about it.
slvdrgn3 3 years ago
omg fuck the LS1, why do you have to take a car known for its rotor engine and replace it with an ls1. fuck you very much mr spyxter
BATTAOUSAI 3 years ago 6
the ls1 couldnt touch this car. maybe an ls7 bored, stroked, cammed & supercharged but not a stock ls anything.
dreadsofdoom13 3 years ago 2
if it was a turboed/built/juiced LS1, then maybe it would
slvdrgn3 3 years ago
I wonder how could an LS1 FD stand up to this :) hehehe
spyxter 3 years ago
it wouldn't
spandy1212 3 years ago
thats alot of rotaries in the background
pleaseiwantapass 3 years ago
dude I want to see that thing fly!!!
hatamakoto 3 years ago