cleopatra was supposed to be one of the most beautiful women of the ancient world, and an Egyptian.. yet they cast a shrill, English actress with pasty white skin?
@piratebri Cleopatra was greek, She came from line of greek kings who ruled ancient egypt for almost 300 years. If you don't belive me do your reseach. From coins that has her on it she doesn't look beauitful but we do you she was very smart she could speak 7 languages
OK, I hate that the show got cancelled as much as the next guy, but don't go blaming HBO's stupidity for its cancellation. A show this kickass, and I emphasize the word KICKASS, needs a lot of money for production. For HBO and BBC it was just far too expensive.
They had originally intended to continue Octavian's story while introducing Christ and the origins of Christianity in the Roman Empire, I think that would have been pretty interesting to see.
@Evenflowist314 lol AGREED!!!! same with The Tudors show..I had wanted to see Edward, Mary, Elizabeth.. even gone on to the Stuarts.. the show was doing extremely well, perhaps not very accurate but good entertainment and it got the younger generation interested in history
Except Cleopatra was not this HOT! She was known to be very charming and cunning, but with a club foot and typical beaked nose. She became a great beauty in the collective psyche after the grand interpretation by Dame Elizabeth Taylor
This is one of the BEST scenes in the entire series...ROME could have ran at LEAST 2 more seasons. I know it was expensive to produce, but what was HBO thinking? They do this to all the good shows and claim too expensive to produce (ROME, Deadwood, Carnivale etc..) The shows may be expensive but I thought that was what HBO was supposed to be about, quality programming... They are still gonna get money, it's HBO after all. I think just greed for oversized profit margins IMO.
and other words she was black and white is that so hard to tell look at people around the world and their native lands u will c black white and asian fact....
@FlirtezyTV No, i spoke that way because in the way you did is not only "simple" but actually creates confusion. When you say white you're specifically speaking of the caucasian tribes : Gauls / Britons / Germans & their descendants. The earliest tribes of Romans were not WHITE ya retard. Some northern italians mixed with white tribes LATER but us from the Latium Region and south are not. Look at the word Latium wtf does that sound like...Does it sound like white or latin? uh durrr
@SlyNicolai Actually, the first condom was invented in Egypt. Not exactly the most effective, as they just wrapped linen around the penis, but better than nothing, I guess.
Herodutus also compares Egyptians to Ethiopians in general when he writes about some differences between Mediterraneans(Egyptians, Greeks, Asians etc.), but he also speaks also about "Egyptian race", "Ethiopian race" etc.. He makes also a paralell description of some "differences" between Eurasian Peoples- Northern Asia, Northen Indians etc. and Southern Indians in other side.
Herodutus also connects a Colchian nation(in the Caucasus Montains) with the Egyptians as the same race.
@ninja909 They did have a son, his name was Ceasarion but Octavian Augustus had him killed when he was about 17 years old becasue he was seen as a threat.
I happen to be a blackwoman who loves ancient history Cleopatra's story in particular is of great interest . However I do not disregard the fact that history says that Cleopatra was Greek . Then again not knowing a great deal about her mother I do believe it is possible for her to be of mixed heritage. Either way I think this actress fits the part . I have a mixed (black/white) cousin who resembles this actress a great deal. Many people who say Cleo was pure Greek support this casting choice too
@joygasm916 Even if She was of full Egyptian ancestry, they are a Mediterranean People- proved by paleo-archeol. paintings, sculpture engraving etc. - a Mediterranean North Africa People for thousands of years. Even King Tut much before and his family had R1b Iberian-Mediterranean-Western-European Y Cromossome DNA Haplogroup. They had also over the time People from South, North, West, East - more blacks or more Whites whatever.
Continents, Regions and Seas are geographies, not races.
@Luso515PorTuoGraal .I was just saying that most of the controversy or arguments I've seen about how Cleopatra looked seem to come back to "was she black or white?" I personally find questions like that strange like asking if Jesus was black or white. I Ithink this actress has a good blend of "exotic" features that should satisfy most people. That being said it is very strange that people try to put racial labels on ancient cultures.
@Luso515PorTuoGraal The ancient Egyptians absolutely had european in them at the time of Tutankhamen.
I personally am more inclined to follow the ancient historians rather than the genetics. Hitler was shown to have African genetics (IRONY!) but he was white. I don't think the fact that they had european in their genetics makes them any less black africans. All the writings from ancient times show egyptians to be an indigenous african race, not a "mediterranean" one.
@illman8876 Yes they were Africans, as the Berbers as exemple, wich is political geography, not race. Herodotus clearly distinguish them from the Ethiopians. Not only Herodutus in Classical times.
@joygasm916 No, she is not pure Greek. Ptolemy was pure Macedonian but his family mixed with the nobility of the Egyptian faction. It is very common for noblity of different races to mix. A marriage between two nobles of different races insured those two peoples would become one, uniting their cultures together. My ancestors often did this as it part of "assimilation".
@joygasm916 The Romans & Italians are not one race of people. We are a mixed hybrid race of the native peoples that inhabited Italy. The Roman race comprises of ; Italian natives(Sabbines & Samnites), Greek, Latin, Etruscan & lastly but most importantly, the people of Anaeus(Trojans) from the shores of western turkey. In Sicily the nortern africans and phoenicians are also in the mix. There are, such as myself, descedants of the earliest Roman tribes still alive and well in this world.
Hey, there's only 1:18 of video here, the rest is the actual credits from the show. Just wanted to let everyone know how stupid it was. Thanks for the effort.
@HistoryLover1550 myea propable butt like when in season when that fat ptolemy tried to be all king like to ceasar it kinda backfired... that was awesome.. cesaer was all like SIT DOWN (you fat little pig) :p i love history and hbo...
@040392agh Ikr that was cool! I liked the episode "Caesarion" in season 1. Caesarion would've been better than ptolemy XIII, being the son of Cleopatra and Caesar he would've probably welcomed Antony as his mother would've done.
which fucking silly dickhead at HBO decided to stop making this amazing tv series?? the same with deadwood!! are these people totally stupid!! im gonna start a campaign, BRING BACK ROME lol
@slvrsfr32 im gutted, i was addicted to watching this, seriously!! it had everything, sex, violence, amazing characters, amazing storylines!! just brillliant. someone said something about them making a movie but i dont know!!
Cleopatra was nineteen years old when she met Caesar, yet she was intelligent, seductive, and charming beyond her years. Whether she was a conventional beauty or not, her sexiness and charm is still proven in history.
I thought they chose a great actress to portray Cleopatra. She practically purred as she spoke.
The ancient Egyptians, when they wore anything, wore a very thin woven linen, so sheer it was nearly diaphonous. Multiple pleating ensured better coverage. This was not intended to be a see through dress. Cleopatra earned a reputation in Rome for being a slut, for dressing in Egypt as her people did. Romans were
Yes, Cleo was Greek. She was one of the Ptolemaic clan named for Ptolemy who was one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy and the other senior generals divided up all the conquered lands after Alexander's death.
@Atoz1 Cleo was greek, but there probably was some egyptian on her mother's side. she should not be a white woman. Mixed, yeah. White? nah.
(and Ancient Egyptians were NOT middle eastern looking like Modern Egyptians. They were basically mixed Africans. They were a caramel complexion. Cleo should have been cast as a very very light skinned black woman.)
Actually, no. The Ptolemaic Dynasty followed the weird Egyptian custom of sibling marriages to keep the bloodline pure. That was why Cleopatra was married to her brother. She might have a lot of inbred blood, but Egyptian was not one of them.
And no, Ancient Egyptians actually did look Middle Eastern. And the royalty even had red and blond hair. Just Google Search for pictures of Egyptian mummies.
@DifangDuana The red and blond hair has been proven to be a result of the mummification process. While some of the ancient egyptians may have had straight hair, they are still mixed africans. Both Herodotus and Pliny describe them as being light skinned africans.
Yes, the ptolemies did follow that egyptian custom, but Cleo's mother may not have been typhaena, so she may very well have egyptian blood.
Also, her sister's skeletal remains indicate that her mother was african, not greek!
@Atoz1 hupm thats just like saying all white americans are british, all black americans are africans or all latin are from spain or mexico. her great great grandfather could be greek but that does not make her greek, she was a proud egyptian, anyone that deines that is an idiot.
@Atoz1 Not purely. To challenge your statement ; Ptolemy was Macedonian as was his children by his wife. However, their bloodline from that point on, stayed in Egypt which means that they mixed with the Egyptian nobility. Cleopatra is product of the unification of Greek & Egyptian culture.
@misteropole Sorry fool, go learn history.. Macedonians were a Greek tribe... and Greeks. You Slavs are from the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and want to claim a name that does not belong to you.. Your Slavo-Macedonians.. Slavs who migrated to the Greek region of Macedonia.. You are as silly as claiming Prussians are not Germans, there Polish.. Get a clue ass whipe.
This period, with Caesar and the final collapse of the Roman Republic, is the greatest story of the ancient world. The years spanning these episodes transformed the both Roman world and western civilization for centuries. The dramatic events depicted, not only took place in substance, if not in detail, but are given appropriate weight by the directors, writes, and actors.
Compare this to the gratuitous dramatics of so many contemporary films...that are essentially about nothing at all.
I was so inspired by this series that I bought the complete seasons 1 & 2 on DVD. They are my prized possessions. I have watched these episodes many times, and each time I do, I see a different facet of the "cause and effect" of events that occured - It's amazing.
Ok... Talk about hiding in plain sight. After searching on the internet over the years off and on, someone finally pointed me in the right direction. The ending music for this episode is on the season 1 soundtrack. It is the track "Cleopatra seduces Caesar". I only listened to the snippets that Itunes & Amazon post and it does not let you hear the whole track of course, so thats how missed it. If you play the track it's the same music. It just starts slow.
@manupainkiller My pleasure! I have been looking for this track for the longest. Glad to spread the word to ROME fans like myself. Now, if we could only find some of the other music from season 2. I am surprised they have not released a season 2 soundtrack, that season has a lot of nice music on it. Just have to do some research.
People, what's all the focus on her looks? Historically, Cleopatra was not physically beautiful. However, she was very intelligent, spoke 7 languages, and clearly was very clever, charming and ambitious. Also, most men would find the wealthiest and most powerful woman in the world attractive. It's also said that she could sing rather well.
That is true. And even if she were indeed beautiful, I'm sure the definition differs from the contemporary sense of beauty. But sadly this IS entertainment business...
Antony would shag anything that moved. I believe his ancestors were from a less than reputable part of the Italy, and thus looked down upon by Romans, especially the old families.
Still, he was a good warrior, a good right hand man for Caesar.
The Antonii were of good pleibeian stock. In fact, Mark Antony was related to Caesar by blood as his mother was a Julia. If he was looked down upon by Romans, it was because of his father's failures as a general.
i love this series ! i think this is from season 2 because i only watched season 1 and it ends with the death of caesar and that soldiers wife which i have forgotten her name!
That was one of the historical liberties taken that really cheesed me off. Cleopatra could not have been a dope addict as the smoking of opium was invented in the late 1700's by the Chinese.
fourganger 88, remember also that much pictoral "evidence" was propaganda by Rome to demonize both antony and cleopatra, it's no doubt that they wouldnt make her out to look like a goddess.
The coins issued by Cleopatra herself prove she was NOT a beauty according to the then prevailing classical definition. That is not Roman propaganda, simply fact. But armed with her political sophistication, formidable intellect and fabulous wealth, I doubt if Cleopatra gave two figs if she was not deemed a great beauty. She was Queen of Egypt. No woman wielded as much personal power or riches as she did. As such she was the most desirable woman of her era, as the calibre of her lovers prove.
Cleopatra was not beautiful according to coins but very smart
immortal4942 1 week ago
I think Antony must have been thinking to himself: "Cleopatra.....No wonder Caesar went mad..."
Lol. Great series, sucks ass it's not been back for another.
1981soa 3 weeks ago
I hated the casting job on her...
cleopatra was supposed to be one of the most beautiful women of the ancient world, and an Egyptian.. yet they cast a shrill, English actress with pasty white skin?
piratebri 1 month ago
@piratebri Cleopatra was greek, She came from line of greek kings who ruled ancient egypt for almost 300 years. If you don't belive me do your reseach. From coins that has her on it she doesn't look beauitful but we do you she was very smart she could speak 7 languages
1JOHNBARLEYCORN 1 month ago
i love this scene so much. bet couple ever
fleurgi 1 month ago
OK, I hate that the show got cancelled as much as the next guy, but don't go blaming HBO's stupidity for its cancellation. A show this kickass, and I emphasize the word KICKASS, needs a lot of money for production. For HBO and BBC it was just far too expensive.
GunnedPoison676 4 months ago 16
The tomb of Antony and Cleopatra might be discovered soon. Archeologists are hot on the trail.
joebombero1 5 months ago
so intense!
xiongsyc 5 months ago
always loved this scene
niteowl969 5 months ago
@SlyNicolai
They had originally intended to continue Octavian's story while introducing Christ and the origins of Christianity in the Roman Empire, I think that would have been pretty interesting to see.
Evenflowist314 5 months ago
@Evenflowist314 they should have continued with Tiberius, Caligula etc...Roman history is FASCINATING!
Nicollie1062 5 months ago
@Nicollie1062
Moral of the story, FUCK HBO for cancelling this
Evenflowist314 5 months ago 4
@Evenflowist314 lol AGREED!!!! same with The Tudors show..I had wanted to see Edward, Mary, Elizabeth.. even gone on to the Stuarts.. the show was doing extremely well, perhaps not very accurate but good entertainment and it got the younger generation interested in history
Nicollie1062 5 months ago
@Nicollie1062
Jesus we love the same things, marry me
Evenflowist314 5 months ago
@Evenflowist314 lol I'm flattered ;) :P
Nicollie1062 5 months ago
Ancient Egyptians were not blacks. Only Nubians were blacks, and they were all salves in Egypt.
HungarianNationalist 7 months ago
what season is this? and what episode?
Junebaby32515 8 months ago
@Junebaby32515
episone 8 season 2
ovireenactor 8 months ago
what season is this?
Junebaby32515 8 months ago
Except Cleopatra was not this HOT! She was known to be very charming and cunning, but with a club foot and typical beaked nose. She became a great beauty in the collective psyche after the grand interpretation by Dame Elizabeth Taylor
inxtrmis 9 months ago
Egypt was a great nation, then Muslims come with their perfidious religion
leceras 9 months ago
This is one of the BEST scenes in the entire series...ROME could have ran at LEAST 2 more seasons. I know it was expensive to produce, but what was HBO thinking? They do this to all the good shows and claim too expensive to produce (ROME, Deadwood, Carnivale etc..) The shows may be expensive but I thought that was what HBO was supposed to be about, quality programming... They are still gonna get money, it's HBO after all. I think just greed for oversized profit margins IMO.
Ramesses718 11 months ago
and other words she was black and white is that so hard to tell look at people around the world and their native lands u will c black white and asian fact....
FlirtezyTV 1 year ago
@FlirtezyTV No, i spoke that way because in the way you did is not only "simple" but actually creates confusion. When you say white you're specifically speaking of the caucasian tribes : Gauls / Britons / Germans & their descendants. The earliest tribes of Romans were not WHITE ya retard. Some northern italians mixed with white tribes LATER but us from the Latium Region and south are not. Look at the word Latium wtf does that sound like...Does it sound like white or latin? uh durrr
Praetorian107 11 months ago
@SlyNicolai Actually, the first condom was invented in Egypt. Not exactly the most effective, as they just wrapped linen around the penis, but better than nothing, I guess.
riniel17 1 year ago
I love this series!!! my god its amazing
TheLolbot3000 1 year ago
Herodutus also compares Egyptians to Ethiopians in general when he writes about some differences between Mediterraneans(Egyptians, Greeks, Asians etc.), but he also speaks also about "Egyptian race", "Ethiopian race" etc.. He makes also a paralell description of some "differences" between Eurasian Peoples- Northern Asia, Northen Indians etc. and Southern Indians in other side.
Herodutus also connects a Colchian nation(in the Caucasus Montains) with the Egyptians as the same race.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 1 year ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal Herodotus clearly states that Egypt basically started as a colony of the Ethiopians.
illman8876 1 year ago
Did caesar and cleopatra ever have a child? if so then that child had to have been like the smartest bravest child ever. I mean, think about it,
being the descendent of caesar, allexander the great, and the egyptions. if that kid exhisted he had to be a bad ass
ninja909 1 year ago
@ninja909 They did have a son, his name was Ceasarion but Octavian Augustus had him killed when he was about 17 years old becasue he was seen as a threat.
firth03 1 year ago
@firth03 lol damn, that kid sure had some awsome blood in him.
ninja909 1 year ago
what's wrong with the leg !!!!?
dededo2009 1 year ago
I happen to be a blackwoman who loves ancient history Cleopatra's story in particular is of great interest . However I do not disregard the fact that history says that Cleopatra was Greek . Then again not knowing a great deal about her mother I do believe it is possible for her to be of mixed heritage. Either way I think this actress fits the part . I have a mixed (black/white) cousin who resembles this actress a great deal. Many people who say Cleo was pure Greek support this casting choice too
joygasm916 1 year ago
@joygasm916 Even if She was of full Egyptian ancestry, they are a Mediterranean People- proved by paleo-archeol. paintings, sculpture engraving etc. - a Mediterranean North Africa People for thousands of years. Even King Tut much before and his family had R1b Iberian-Mediterranean-Western-European Y Cromossome DNA Haplogroup. They had also over the time People from South, North, West, East - more blacks or more Whites whatever.
Continents, Regions and Seas are geographies, not races.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 1 year ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal .I was just saying that most of the controversy or arguments I've seen about how Cleopatra looked seem to come back to "was she black or white?" I personally find questions like that strange like asking if Jesus was black or white. I Ithink this actress has a good blend of "exotic" features that should satisfy most people. That being said it is very strange that people try to put racial labels on ancient cultures.
joygasm916 1 year ago
@joygasm916 Yes, I understand. You are right. Thanks.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 1 year ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal The ancient Egyptians absolutely had european in them at the time of Tutankhamen.
I personally am more inclined to follow the ancient historians rather than the genetics. Hitler was shown to have African genetics (IRONY!) but he was white. I don't think the fact that they had european in their genetics makes them any less black africans. All the writings from ancient times show egyptians to be an indigenous african race, not a "mediterranean" one.
illman8876 1 year ago
@illman8876 Yes they were Africans, as the Berbers as exemple, wich is political geography, not race. Herodotus clearly distinguish them from the Ethiopians. Not only Herodutus in Classical times.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 1 year ago
@joygasm916 No, she is not pure Greek. Ptolemy was pure Macedonian but his family mixed with the nobility of the Egyptian faction. It is very common for noblity of different races to mix. A marriage between two nobles of different races insured those two peoples would become one, uniting their cultures together. My ancestors often did this as it part of "assimilation".
Praetorian107 1 year ago
@joygasm916 The Romans & Italians are not one race of people. We are a mixed hybrid race of the native peoples that inhabited Italy. The Roman race comprises of ; Italian natives(Sabbines & Samnites), Greek, Latin, Etruscan & lastly but most importantly, the people of Anaeus(Trojans) from the shores of western turkey. In Sicily the nortern africans and phoenicians are also in the mix. There are, such as myself, descedants of the earliest Roman tribes still alive and well in this world.
Praetorian107 1 year ago
The best scene in cinematic history? I love the way they shot this, with the music, the looks, everything its so well done
sonrosado 1 year ago 2
eww this cleo is mad ugly elizabeth taylor is way better
Gingie4life 1 year ago
Cleopatra was a Macedon, descendant from the days when Alexander the Great ruled the known world.
lethalfang 1 year ago
Hey, there's only 1:18 of video here, the rest is the actual credits from the show. Just wanted to let everyone know how stupid it was. Thanks for the effort.
misombra 1 year ago
They did her character so well. Even the way she walks. It's nothing short of brilliant.
CobraUmerus 1 year ago
E-P-I-C
JPSoviet 1 year ago
It would've been cool to have seen Caesarion acting as king instead of playing catch with the servant.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago 3
@HistoryLover1550 it would probably cost him his life judging on the mood anthony was is :p
040392agh 1 year ago
@040392agh True, yet Im sure his mom Cleopatra wouldn't be to far away and ready to protect her kin.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
@HistoryLover1550 myea propable butt like when in season when that fat ptolemy tried to be all king like to ceasar it kinda backfired... that was awesome.. cesaer was all like SIT DOWN (you fat little pig) :p i love history and hbo...
040392agh 1 year ago
@040392agh Ikr that was cool! I liked the episode "Caesarion" in season 1. Caesarion would've been better than ptolemy XIII, being the son of Cleopatra and Caesar he would've probably welcomed Antony as his mother would've done.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
One of the best TV scenes ever made. I love the way they did it.
sonrosado 1 year ago 6
damn i love this scene.
romaarma30 1 year ago 2
@romaarma30 I love the production design of Cleopatra's palace and Alexandria. WOW!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
which fucking silly dickhead at HBO decided to stop making this amazing tv series?? the same with deadwood!! are these people totally stupid!! im gonna start a campaign, BRING BACK ROME lol
goldyn12345 1 year ago 42
@goldyn12345 AMEN!!!
slvrsfr32 1 year ago
@slvrsfr32 im gutted, i was addicted to watching this, seriously!! it had everything, sex, violence, amazing characters, amazing storylines!! just brillliant. someone said something about them making a movie but i dont know!!
goldyn12345 1 year ago
@goldyn12345 I think is better that they stop making series before people get bored with them. Rome is classic!
emmibebu 8 months ago
Does any1 knows the name of this SONG in the video??
Please let me know...
NikaS89 1 year ago
@NikaS89
Cleopatra seduces Ceaser (available ad itunes store)
Ceesie007 1 year ago
@Ceesie007 Love that song!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
If you all want to see a real movie watch Cleopatra (1963) with Elizabeth Taylor. Then and only then well you know what a cinematic masterpiece is.
aep2t 1 year ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAMES!!!! KISS KISS KISS
Biscom 1 year ago
Damn...they would lock me up and throw away the key if they knew of the things id do to her haha xP
AvengefulAngel 1 year ago
Such a well directed scene, fantastic music, cinematography at its best!
sonrosado 1 year ago
she looks like the picture on the real coin.
thepixieful 1 year ago
@thepixieful She really does!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Is the music from this scene on the soundtrack (or any soundtrack)?
knight7se7en 1 year ago
@knight7se7en Yes it is. It's track 18 on the Rome soundtrack, titled "Cleopatra Seduces Caesar".
antred11 1 year ago
Oi! Antony......Over Here!!! No...Over here....No no over here! ha ha ha
Biscom 1 year ago
Te amo Mark Antony
Biscom 1 year ago
Love Antony's beautiful brown eyes.
Biscom 1 year ago
Cleopatra was nineteen years old when she met Caesar, yet she was intelligent, seductive, and charming beyond her years. Whether she was a conventional beauty or not, her sexiness and charm is still proven in history.
I thought they chose a great actress to portray Cleopatra. She practically purred as she spoke.
brixton92 1 year ago 3
She seemed to have been busy redecorating the palace
Abridgedfan134 1 year ago
Love the music from this production.
bookkeeper57 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
love her cunt :-)
grenpier 2 years ago
I remember seeing this part of the episode. It was the perfect way to foreshadow what was to become one of the more famous romances in history.
Belisarius42 2 years ago 20
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imperatorcaesar100 2 years ago
Wrong: this is the QUEEN of Egypt. No matter what her reputation, or the climate of Egypt was.
bookkeeper57 2 years ago 3
definitely the music
HarbingerRomanus 2 years ago 2
wow she is fucking beautiful look at that body
glodsbride86 2 years ago 2
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imperatorcaesar100 2 years ago
you can see her pubic hair
HarbingerRomanus 2 years ago
The ancient Egyptians, when they wore anything, wore a very thin woven linen, so sheer it was nearly diaphonous. Multiple pleating ensured better coverage. This was not intended to be a see through dress. Cleopatra earned a reputation in Rome for being a slut, for dressing in Egypt as her people did. Romans were
used to seeing women in more clothing
than this.
bookkeeper57 2 years ago
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imperatorcaesar100 2 years ago 3
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imperatorcaesar100 2 years ago
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she's no liz taylor
cjudge90 2 years ago
One of the best parts in the entire series!!
Leslie2930 2 years ago 11
God I love the opening, WHY DID THEY STOP?!
ViruzNoob14 2 years ago
@ViruzNoob14 They stopped because it was a good show. It seems that only crappy shows really catch on (with a few exceptions).
antred11 1 year ago 4
love the ending here. awesome music.
senorfarqueso 2 years ago 4
You've got to admit it: Rome was awesome!
It's a shame that they couldn't do the orignal plan of
Season One: As Shown
Season Two: From the Aftermath of Caesar's death to Brutus' Death
Seasons Three/Four: Antony and Cleopatra, Feud with Octavian etc
Season Five: Rise of the Palestine Messiah
DrPatrickSpiller 2 years ago 4
I know right? it's tragic.
LaSerpentaCanta 2 years ago
The set design in this clip is unbelievable.
vigwig 2 years ago 2
Yes, Cleo was Greek. She was one of the Ptolemaic clan named for Ptolemy who was one of Alexander the Great's generals. Ptolemy and the other senior generals divided up all the conquered lands after Alexander's death.
Atoz1 2 years ago 43
@Atoz1 Cleo was greek, but there probably was some egyptian on her mother's side. she should not be a white woman. Mixed, yeah. White? nah.
(and Ancient Egyptians were NOT middle eastern looking like Modern Egyptians. They were basically mixed Africans. They were a caramel complexion. Cleo should have been cast as a very very light skinned black woman.)
illman8876 1 year ago
@illman8876
Actually, no. The Ptolemaic Dynasty followed the weird Egyptian custom of sibling marriages to keep the bloodline pure. That was why Cleopatra was married to her brother. She might have a lot of inbred blood, but Egyptian was not one of them.
And no, Ancient Egyptians actually did look Middle Eastern. And the royalty even had red and blond hair. Just Google Search for pictures of Egyptian mummies.
DifangDuana 1 year ago
@DifangDuana The red and blond hair has been proven to be a result of the mummification process. While some of the ancient egyptians may have had straight hair, they are still mixed africans. Both Herodotus and Pliny describe them as being light skinned africans.
Yes, the ptolemies did follow that egyptian custom, but Cleo's mother may not have been typhaena, so she may very well have egyptian blood.
Also, her sister's skeletal remains indicate that her mother was african, not greek!
illman8876 1 year ago
@Atoz1 hupm thats just like saying all white americans are british, all black americans are africans or all latin are from spain or mexico. her great great grandfather could be greek but that does not make her greek, she was a proud egyptian, anyone that deines that is an idiot.
TheIcelandicPatriot 1 year ago
@Atoz1 Not purely. To challenge your statement ; Ptolemy was Macedonian as was his children by his wife. However, their bloodline from that point on, stayed in Egypt which means that they mixed with the Egyptian nobility. Cleopatra is product of the unification of Greek & Egyptian culture.
Praetorian107 1 year ago
@Atoz1 Not Greek, but she was a Macedionan!
misteropole 9 months ago
@misteropole Macedonians were and are greeks, read ancient historians.
hcybtiw 9 months ago
@misteropole Sorry fool, go learn history.. Macedonians were a Greek tribe... and Greeks. You Slavs are from the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and want to claim a name that does not belong to you.. Your Slavo-Macedonians.. Slavs who migrated to the Greek region of Macedonia.. You are as silly as claiming Prussians are not Germans, there Polish.. Get a clue ass whipe.
TheBaronofBallstein 5 months ago 2
This song is awesome ^_^
Rhun217 2 years ago 3
You all know that Cleopatra was Greek?
hcybtiw 2 years ago 6
This period, with Caesar and the final collapse of the Roman Republic, is the greatest story of the ancient world. The years spanning these episodes transformed the both Roman world and western civilization for centuries. The dramatic events depicted, not only took place in substance, if not in detail, but are given appropriate weight by the directors, writes, and actors.
Compare this to the gratuitous dramatics of so many contemporary films...that are essentially about nothing at all.
followthefleet1 2 years ago 8
Couldn't agree more.
lionconvoy87 2 years ago
I was so inspired by this series that I bought the complete seasons 1 & 2 on DVD. They are my prized possessions. I have watched these episodes many times, and each time I do, I see a different facet of the "cause and effect" of events that occured - It's amazing.
slaphappymonkeygurl 2 years ago 2
Realmente muito bom mesmo
sociologoufpa 2 years ago
ty for the vid, gosh, i love Rome.
Alkira9 2 years ago
In my opinion, this is one of the most epic scenes in the series.
insanityblob 2 years ago 5
I love this egyptian style version of the main rome song more than the other.
SoraTakenouchi16 2 years ago 52
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Cleopatra seduces Ceaser (available ad itunes store)
Ceesie007 1 year ago
@SoraTakenouchi16 is true :3
kanata0717 1 year ago
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I have been trying to get that egyptian version on mp3 for the longest. Cant find it though.
Ramesses718 11 months ago
@Ramesses718 if you find it,let me know,please !
manupainkiller 11 months ago
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Ramesses718 11 months ago
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Ok... Talk about hiding in plain sight. After searching on the internet over the years off and on, someone finally pointed me in the right direction. The ending music for this episode is on the season 1 soundtrack. It is the track "Cleopatra seduces Caesar". I only listened to the snippets that Itunes & Amazon post and it does not let you hear the whole track of course, so thats how missed it. If you play the track it's the same music. It just starts slow.
Ramesses718 11 months ago
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Ramesses718 11 months ago
@manupainkiller It is arranged differently to fit the episode but the same music. It's basically the same. Either way it's hot! Hope this helped...
Ramesses718 11 months ago
@Ramesses718 thanks for reply,for others,this magnificent soundtrack it's on youtube "cleopatra seduces caesar"
manupainkiller 11 months ago
@manupainkiller My pleasure! I have been looking for this track for the longest. Glad to spread the word to ROME fans like myself. Now, if we could only find some of the other music from season 2. I am surprised they have not released a season 2 soundtrack, that season has a lot of nice music on it. Just have to do some research.
Ramesses718 11 months ago
@SoraTakenouchi16 this song is the best !
manupainkiller 11 months ago
horse dung is the oldest drug!
koolkropek 2 years ago
Damn cleopatra is beautiful you dont charm her she charms you thats what makes her hot!!! damn i wish there were more real women like her
DannyJamesRead 2 years ago 7
The scene of Antony entering Cleo's palace was cinematic greatness. The costumes, scenery and music all meshed perfectly. Very memorable!
USBP464 2 years ago 9
People, what's all the focus on her looks? Historically, Cleopatra was not physically beautiful. However, she was very intelligent, spoke 7 languages, and clearly was very clever, charming and ambitious. Also, most men would find the wealthiest and most powerful woman in the world attractive. It's also said that she could sing rather well.
EvanSol919 3 years ago 8
acculay, she spoke 9 languages plus hyrogliphs,
josefburker 3 years ago
That is true. And even if she were indeed beautiful, I'm sure the definition differs from the contemporary sense of beauty. But sadly this IS entertainment business...
chris84bloom 2 years ago 4
God damn she was sexy in this series.I always hear women say "she's not beautiful at all" LOL they really don't understand.
YTwatcher38 3 years ago 4
She was the best Cleopatra i have seen in a while. I think she is gorgeous! That scene was timeless. God.. i miss Rome.
khalilahinjapan 3 years ago 4
I still don't know why they took it off.
YTwatcher38 3 years ago 2
Hi, I'm a women and I think that her Cleopatra was the hottest ever. Very sexy and original beauty, not the usual hotties we see all around.
parisad 3 years ago 4
she wasn't it was her intelligence and wit that made her attractive
fleurgi 3 years ago 3
I love the series too!! I think James is so hot and sexy! He's got such a great body!! Rome was awesome.
beretta1342000 3 years ago 3
Antony would shag anything that moved. I believe his ancestors were from a less than reputable part of the Italy, and thus looked down upon by Romans, especially the old families.
Still, he was a good warrior, a good right hand man for Caesar.
hollywoodwerewolf 3 years ago
The Antonii were of good pleibeian stock. In fact, Mark Antony was related to Caesar by blood as his mother was a Julia. If he was looked down upon by Romans, it was because of his father's failures as a general.
AemiliaPaulla 3 years ago
So ok, she was not a beauty, but still can be cute or at just not ugly.
thuongdo 3 years ago
Nothin wrong with being a drunk womaniser...
Methuselah18 3 years ago 5
Cicero always said Antony was a drunk womanizer. Guess he was right....
tachikoma747 3 years ago
anyone else hungry?
SimmyDOTuk 3 years ago
I love this show! All the actors are great at expressing emotions with their eyes and body movements.
ScaperSteph 3 years ago 4
I love that series! This was such a good end to that episode! I love the music!
ustgt 3 years ago 7
i love this series ! i think this is from season 2 because i only watched season 1 and it ends with the death of caesar and that soldiers wife which i have forgotten her name!
SUPERSMARTY333 3 years ago
Aw yes =( Niobi
CaixaDeSol 3 years ago
Nice dress . . .
formerdir 3 years ago 9
if you want hear the complete track, only type "Cleopatra Seduces Caesar" in the search box. The Entire music is excellent.
ivilovely 3 years ago
what episode is this??
catlover70 3 years ago
Season 2, episode 8 (btw episode 20): "A Necessary Fiction"
szekihu 3 years ago
liked the credits
leeleebaker85 3 years ago
Antony. Cleopatra.
EPIC ENDING to an episode
2nelson 3 years ago 6
All you scholars are focusing in on the wrong thing! In the scene it's a woman with a great body in a see-thru dress!! hahahaha
MrChug 3 years ago
what was the episode after this
ubernees2003 3 years ago
"Deus Impeditio Esuritori Nullus (No God Can Stop a Hungry Man)" SE2 E9
ptolemy1989 3 years ago
I'd do her. I love the song also.
xKINGxSCARx 3 years ago
And Cleopatra was not addicted to opium and was not a classic beauty. Besides, Romans, Greeks, and Egyptians all had different standards of beauty.
EvanSol919 3 years ago 2
That was one of the historical liberties taken that really cheesed me off. Cleopatra could not have been a dope addict as the smoking of opium was invented in the late 1700's by the Chinese.
pinz2022 3 years ago
From Wikipedia's entry even:
'The Egyptians cultivated opium thebaicum in famous poppy fields around 1300 B.C.'
HopperUK 3 years ago 5
Completely false !
opium is the oldest drug ever used in humanity by doctors ! It s known from more than 3000 years !!!
Lutinedesbois 3 years ago 4
poppy juice was used for millenia but the smoking of dried opium gum only began with the 18th century Chinese.
pinz2022 2 years ago
Wrong Marijuana is the oldest!
IndefinateOutcomes 2 years ago
For all of Rome's accuracy, Alexandria was way off. It was a Greek city and all of the Ptolomies were of Greek descent
EvanSol919 3 years ago
fourganger 88, remember also that much pictoral "evidence" was propaganda by Rome to demonize both antony and cleopatra, it's no doubt that they wouldnt make her out to look like a goddess.
Joehand87 3 years ago
The coins issued by Cleopatra herself prove she was NOT a beauty according to the then prevailing classical definition. That is not Roman propaganda, simply fact. But armed with her political sophistication, formidable intellect and fabulous wealth, I doubt if Cleopatra gave two figs if she was not deemed a great beauty. She was Queen of Egypt. No woman wielded as much personal power or riches as she did. As such she was the most desirable woman of her era, as the calibre of her lovers prove.
KateWinspur 3 years ago 5
it's so romantic the way marc anthony looks at cleopatra in awe a for a bit before he says he name.
fleurgi 3 years ago
One of my favorite scenes from HBO's Rome. What an ending ...
llad 4 years ago 10
I agree, a fascinating and shocking ending, one that is compelling both majestically and in an Egyptian fashion.
Mike888Wong 4 years ago 5
My Fav song too, fits with the scene.
saruman84 4 years ago 4
Correct me i