i think Derren is at his best when looking at things like this, he just looks a bit evil when he shows how susceptible people are by making them do crazy things but he's done amazing work, especially, i think, in miracles for sale.
Dawkins and Brown are absolute geniuses. I'm glad that brown didn't try to mess with dawkins out of ego. I feel that that would have been very rude. On the same hand I'm not sure that Dawkins would have even cared for it. For a face to face, this was an incredible interview, despite the fact that... I feel as if Brown should have been able to "flip the switch" and asked Dawkins on his thoughts more. Brown is amazing in what he does. Dawkins is the LAW.
Notice how part 1 has over 1 million views, then less and less to the final part. PEOPLE WANTS TO BELIEVE. It takes great courage to test these beliefs and make the conclusions for yourself. The sad part about all this is that religion is so deep in society, from basic education, to everything else, that even scientists hold dual views of the world.
Derren how did u drop the bible with the argument that it isnt historically correct. it's possibly the most historically proved book in the world. I am a historian so I should know.
@AnnabelLolita there are some fact that can be proven but most of them can't - like the existence of Jesus. I dropped bible coz it stopped making sense after I read another materials
@AnnabelLolita just read the bible as a book, without bias and you'll see it. I haven't firstly but then I started to read Zen, Taoism and so on and it got very similar. also the bible wrote smart people who read the old testament first and made the story fit to a new testament. but I don't think you believe in people living with dinosaurs and living 900 years as well as Earth being just 6000 years old. that's just ridiculous...
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
@MKcFirth are you for real....Richard Dawkinsis regarded by many intelectuals to be one of the greatest Debaters that are activley speaking. He has almost single handedly created the opening for athiests aroud the world to come out into the open by single handedly shreadding apart all the properganda that religious fanatics have thrown at him. As Richard himself would probably ask you...."where is your proof he doesn't debate well"
MBA... MBA... MBA! I do hearby present Derren Brown with the Materialist Bravery Award! There is no Afterlife. When you die- that's it! But some people have the courage, fortitude and general superiority to face that cold hard reality HEAD ON! I decorate these people with the MBA. Congratulations, Derren!
Real magick doesn't happen on stages, it happens in the mind..from the mind and projects out. Magic is a stage show, illusions, real magick..crowley et al works.
Utterly enthralling and enjoyable viewing. I love how entirely genuine they both came across. Why anyone would vote 'dislike' on this is beyond my comprehension.
Love it, and even though they're atheists I can't help seeing them as gods. Derren: the trickster, Hermes incarnate, not really caring about anything but laughing his tits off while he changes the world with his crafty words. Dawkins: Thor, the god of war and destroyer of belief.
it is estimated that the largest fear abundant in the human population which is deviated in many ways is fear of the unknown obviously in this case they are scared of the posibility that hypnotists have controll over you and will do somthing bad, if you keep that in mind then you will understand reasons behind peoples actions in many life circumstances.
Even the most resilient human psyches can be broken by the realisation that they are, and always have been, wrong. I wonder how it it feels when someone tells you that the life that you have been living has been a complete lie. It makes us question... it causes us to worry... it induces physiological stress. We've all felt the unpleasantness of this to some extent. Furthermore, if your social circle continues to reinforce a "wrong" idea, how do you even begin to free your mind?
If this wasn't Derren Brown and Richard Dawkins, I would still be impressed because it's a video of 2 men standing up and talking for like 2 hours without getting bored or tired.
If you're used to being on your feet, it's actually more uncomfortable to be sitting for a long period - unless you're slouching. I bet they both had a nice foot massage afterwards :)
@jv8999 he's an entertainer, everything he says should make sense and go smoothly, the best way is the easiest way. he's not going to fight against it but go with the flow. water follows the path of least resistance, he's a pisces. in reality everything follows the path of least resistance when you look to the other side on the minute of scales. pisces; astrology isn't astrology but realizing that hot is only hot by comparison of what is cold all interpreted by the brains respectfulness.
@jv8999 ditto. like some great actors, pacino or brando springs to mind, you're just completely drawn to them. that said i think this interview was a little disappointing. two great minds, great skeptics with different perspectives, and they've just talked about stufff that they both immediately agree on. i don't think they've reached any interesting conclusions at all.
@musefan1011985 In all fairness, he was doing this for a show so he was only asking him about topics that relate to the show (ie spiritualism, psychics, mediums etc).
@ServeTheWay Why would the existence of a higher conscious creative intelligence guarantee that you are held accountability to a higher authority? What if that intelligence frankly, couldn't give a damn? It's a bold assertion to claim there is a God, based solely on an unfalsifiable premise. It is entirely another thing to express that it has a desire for us to behave or think in a specific way.
Your strategy of using an argument from ignorance to attack a strawman is becoming tiresome. Even if your statement wasn’t false, I already made it blatantly clear that the implausibility of something is irrelevant; what matters is what the evidence supports. Your “brainwashing” and “accountability” comments could not be more incorrect (or irrelevant).
Since you seem incapable of deducing it beyond a strawman caricature, I’ll be forthright- the root of my belief is that no supernatural phenomena have ever met their burden of proof. Until such a time when they become distinguishable from imagination, I will disregard them in preference to the system that has demonstrated itself to being the most reliable in distinguishing fact from fantasy and leading to objective knowledge about reality, regardless of anything it has yet to explain.
No, my statement is supported by evidence, while yours is falsified by it. I suggest actually examining the current state of scientific knowledge before touting your own preconceptions as fact.
“Life's Grand Design” by Ken Miller or “The Evolution of Complex Organs” by T. Ryan Gregory might be a good place to start.
@ServeTheWay can you not see that as he can be "brainwashed" one way you also can be "brainwashed" to think the way you do? I think the counter argument you have produced is very flawed, also you have resorted to just insult the other person, if you want to put your point forwards then do so but not with any anger or hatred, I thought that that was one of the core beliefs of almost every religion? or maybe I have just been "brainwashed"
As unlikely and absurd as any naturalistic explanation may seem, it is still more likely than any supernatural one for the following reasons- they are constrained by observed natural laws; empirical; objective; falsifiable; demonstrable; well observed; and every piece of factual knowledge we possess was achieved or explained by them; Occam’s razor as mentioned earlier
The supernatural is the antithesis of every single one of those qualities and is indistinguishable from that which is imagined.
How peculiar that after I pointed out the red herring, your reaction is to expand on it.
Your argument about organs is simply erroneous. The evolution of complex organs is well understood and explained by evolution. Your second point is a bald assertion based on an argument from ignorance, against a strawman no less. That is all I will say on that, as those issues are irrelevant to the topic.
Your assertion that such things can’t be directly detected scientifically is irrelevant, as I already addressed. The manifestation of such things can in fact be tested regardless of any bald assertion to the contrary. For example, we can test the accuracy of the knowledge of a person who claims to be in contact with spirits. Such tests have been done and the people were either exposed as charlatans or the results were no more or less accurate than those of chance or coincidence.
What you have described is indistinguishable from imagination. Your claim is no different than “I think it exists, therefore it does”; and that an appeal to emotion and/or majority corroborates this. Sorry, but a bunch of feelings by a bunch of people is not evidence. Reality is quite often contradictory to human perception and intuition; this is why we use objective scientific means to demonstrate evidence.
Evolution ≠ abiogenesis, you clearly don’t understand evolution nor are you aware of the immense evidence for the theory.
Belief in the unproven ≠ faith. You’re equivocating the colloquial use of the word with the use as it pertains to beliefs. When a belief is based on objective observation and logical reasoning and deduction, it has nothing to do with faith.
But I digress, that was all just a red herring anyway.
Occam ’s razor destroys the vast majority of these arguments because we already have preexisting, documented, naturalistic explanations for such events without having to resort to cryptic, psionic, magical forces. Such phenomena can generally be grouped into 3 categories- coincidence; deception; and/or delusion.
…If you take it a step further and assert that even this cannot be quantified, then the thing in question is indistinguishable from that which doesn’t exist. In which case, it is by its own definition, intrinsically impossible to even make the assertion in the first place as you have no grounds to do so.
You seriously think it is unscientific to dismiss that which has repeatedly failed on all accounts to provide demonstrable empirical evidence? Science (and logic) doesn’t work that way. Until an assertion is demonstrated to actually exist, the default position is that is does not. The problem is that, even if something doesn’t exist in the natural world, it still manifests in it in some way or another, and THAT can be quantified...
Cool story bro. Was it actually supposed to be convincing? If so, who are you trying to convince? If the answer is anyone other than yourself, you are going to be disappointed. Any rational person reading that is not going to be convinced by the anecdotal story of someone who claims to hear demonic voices in his head. They will likely conclude either- the story is BS; you are delusional/mentally unstable; you were trolled by the woman in the chat room; or a combination of the 3
Dawkins, which came first RNA OR DNA? You can't have one without the other. Oh yea, it was the lightening that struck the mud puddle that just created all the life on our planet. Whatever man. God bless you anyway!!!!!!
@iristang2 I don't think we know at the moment matey, but thats ok scientists can admit that and just work on the solution. Can you answer a question for me, what created your God, was it God? Oh also what created that God, God? This infinite loop doesn't answer any questions. May Science bless your noodle!
@iristang2 Lyk Lolz pwned! Seriously, you believe a large morphoditic being in the sky, which I would be surprised if it cared about the small speck of dust that the earth is, even compared to the solar system, let alone galaxy or universe, created us and tends to each need?
@iristang2 Wow, arent you a genious? You could at least have made a question that would make you look smart rather than ignorant. Ah well. Science bless you!!!
but on a purely logical basis we cannot prove or disprove a god. i like ocam's razor which leads me to believe that we should not assume a god exists until we have evidence that one does. because a god would neccisarily be much more complex than this universe is. bah lets just do this in private messages.
I would just like to point out that Derren Brown is gay. Not that it's really relevant, but it's just nice to show that not every gay person is flamboyant or effeminate, and that many are just your standard, reasonable people.
In The Name of Allah The Most Gracious The Most Merciful
He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then He made his progeny from an extract of discarded fluid. (Qur'an, 32:7-8)
0:05 why do people hate Richard Dawkins? Look at his lovable little smile. He's a fascinating guy with an eloquent voice. He has a passion for knowledge and teaching, I'd personally love if all my teachers at university were like him
@kly45 Having watched many clips of and with him, on his site and here on youtube, as well as having read some of his books, I couldn't agree with you more. The passion, with which he acquires, stores and conveys information and knowledge just really blows me away. He's so thorough, without ever getting boring.
The reason many people hate him, or dislike him, is because he IS an elitist, or as he puts it himself, and intellectual snob. He lifts the veil. Ignorance truly is bliss for most people
@muhhest you can't understand but guess the reasons by which many people to you hate him or dislike him unless it's your own understanding of hating him or disliking him, then is it really your idea. he may be an elitist when he recognizes that the idea of everyone having an equal amount potential is false from experience of himself and his ability to use what intelligence he has through ignorance of igrnorance to reassure him of his resolve and rationale. elite is an identity for easy.
@kly45 people don't like him because he challenges their ignorance. He makes a really good point about the famous "psychic" (james hydric) who was caught out but it did not destroy his career simply because if people WANT to believe it is real then they will, no matter what evidence he throws at them to disprove it! Also i think his shrewdness is often mistaken as arrogance, but i am with you, he is brilliant!...............i almost said he was God but we know where he stands on that :o)
@kly45 I don't like how he advocates the scientific method while treading on grounds that really belong to the philosophers. He should stick to his area of evolutionary biology - this 'crusade' against religion and superstition is not very scientific at all and Dawkins is not very graceful on the subjects of ontology and metaphysics, often mixing and matching ethics, philosphy and science and presenting it all as scientific fact.
@achlysism That would be fine if philosophers and theologians would do the same. When they make claims like a man was born of a virgin, humans were created by a divine power and humans can talk to the "spirits" of the dead, they trample all over the realm of the physical world and the laws of science. In American, they even wish to teach creationism in schools in place of the scientifically sound theory of evolution! As a scientist, Dawkins rightly refutes these claims as nonsense.
So we get to this conclution, there can't be a god, there can't be no god, something is true. Very puzzling. I got to belive that the only existance not arbitrairy is 0-dimentionnal, and has no/an infinity of personalities, and that all else is part of this existance, and as a christian, this definition of existance suits my defininition of God: Love, unicity, all in one, and one in all. I could talk longer, but I just want you to realise that atheists have blind faith in a dogma too.
Being a Christian myself, I readily agree to the fack that religion is very prone to circular argumentation. That said, atheism also is. The hardest question I think there is would be... why? Why 3 dimmentions, why atoms, why time why all these things that always existed? How could there be a world as arbitrairy as ours... without an arbiter. It doesn't make sens. Of course, the arbiter doesn't make sens either. So why is there existance. Is existance real? I think therefore I am.
@GregTom2 our world is not arbitrary, our universe is here and functions the way it does because it works - it's quite a simple thing really - if it didn't work, it wouldn't be here! I think the question of "why are we here" (in terms of the meaning of life) is a false question or a question that has no answer.
you cannot just say that atheism is dogmatic and circular and then not follow up those statements. someone who holds no belief in the supernatural is not dogmatic. why? because....
@GregTom2 “Why 3 dimmentions, why atoms, why time why all these things that always existed? How could there be a world as arbitrairy as ours... without an arbiter”
As human ditch religion and more move forward to be free thinkers, science will explain the answer to your questions, as science has done in the past. We are now learning where the universe come from, even theories about multi universes and multi dimensional frames.
@TheFireHorseUK and there it is, right there. Do you realise you just stated that you Knew that science Would find answers. That seems like blind faith to me. I belive in infinity of universes and planes, but thier existance is no much justification of their existance. If you know science will find an answer, then you know there is an answer other than supperior being. Blind faith again
@GregTom2 "Knew that science Would find answers. That seems like blind faith to me. "
You may call it ‘blind faith’ after all you are a type of person who waste their lives hands clapped together, getting holes in the trousers, talking to ‘imaginary being’ that is what you believe in ' blind faith'. I believe science will get answers as they have done in the past, using proven evidence of how the world works, I go with the proven tract record. Faith has ‘thin air’ and mad people !
@TheFireHorseUK do you realise that you just repeated your argumenst from last time, and all you added was a personnal attack twards christians? My whole point was to explain that any belief, including atheism, took it's source in a circular argumentation or in a statement of blind faith, and you helped me proove it. Your proof is no bether than religious people. They Know their religion is true. You Know that science can explain metaphysical concepts beyond our dimmension.
@GregTom2 "They Know their religion is true. You Know that science can explain metaphysical concepts beyond our dimmension."
Did you not read the comment: I make it easy for you to understand...
Science work on theories and factual evidence in many fields. Always explaining how stuff work.
Religion is a controlling propaganda for the many gullible followers to buy into an afterlife that being ran by various gods. Evidence of their existence – Nil – 0 - Nothing
In the 6/6 part, around minute 3:00, Derren mentions a "a great book on code reading", but I cannot pick-up the name of the author..., can someone help me? Thanks!
@juancarlosferes The author is Ian Rowland and the book is called 'The Full Facts Book of Cold Reading'. A very compelling read indeed! Although cold reading is used by so called 'psychics' to defraud people, it can actually be used in a positive way to develop rapport with people :)
I'm not sure who Derren Brown is... but from the interview I get the feeling he's been manipulating people all these years and just one day comes clean with this Richard Dawkins interview and all is forgiven?
@Yquit4 Derren brown is a performer. He has had over 15 series of shows on channel 4, involving psychology,hypnosis showmanship, misdirection and illusions.. he mainly entertains people with his abilities but at the same time lets people know that he is not psychic or anything. Since you live in australia you might not be able to watch his tv shows uploaded to youtube..it's a shame as they are hilarious.
/watch?v=bQKHap8DAbM see if you can watch one of this episodes.
@TweekDash It's actually quite justifiable to mock someone who holds something sacred that doesn't exist. What are they holding sacred if it doesn't exist? Thin air perhaps?
They are free to believe in GOD & make it sacred just like I have freedom of speech to say they're idiots. So don't tell me not to mock someone when I have good cause to (not without a cause).
The main reason people stick with religion(believe in a creator) is that it gives them hope that there is life after dead. On scientific side, you are gone forever after dead. People don't like to hear that.
Childhood indoctrination and defending your non-belief - first chapter of Dawking's book the God Delusion, brilliant subject... Although adults unconsciously indoctrinating children genuinely believe in the religion themselves and think that they are also giving the child the freedom to choose whether to adopt that belief or not (which they're not), it is still as fundementally fucked in the head as lying to some poor person whose child has died that you are "in touch with the other side".
@Spoooonman If I said to you I believe that little green donkeys created the Earth to harvest carrots and with the help of invisible scarecrows they created the Universe, but the scarecrows wanted to have it all to themselves so they killed of the little green donkeys and created disease to punish the rebel scarecrows who thought it was wrong to kill the donkeys. Now the scarecrows live in caves all over the World were they are plotting to destroy the World with invisible guns. What would u say?
@dukestt Yeah the point is what I've just wrote is just as believable as a God who created the Earth. There is no proof for either. So you could teach anything and nobody is supposed to say anything, because there is no proof.
@pollordubai forgive me I was being flippant, I meant to say that I understood what Derren was saying because I got out of something at a young age, about not believing the bible but being forced to. I have met him but didn't get a chance to talk to him which was a shame.
A few years ago I was driving toward an underpass when I got the urgent feeling I should slow right down, even though I was already under the speed limit. Suddenly a van came out, speeding and on the wrong side of the road, with a very small child unrestrained and standing up on the front passenger seat. If I had been doing the speed limit I would have been unable to avoid the van, we would have crashed, and the child would have died. So, what was that? How could I have known?
@RPFS2008 That wasn't it. I have driven through there hundreds of times, I know the road well, and I usually just tear right into that underpass at the speed limit. Also, that day there was hardly any traffic on the road, in fact that was the only vehicle that came out of the underpass, there was no other traffic other than him and me there at that time.
But when I got that sudden urgent feeling (or message) to "slow down NOW!", I immediately obeyed, and slowed right down to 40kmph.
@myastroflight That just shows you what the brain is capable of doing without conscious thinking. It calculated that an underpass may be a "risk" so it made slow
down. Now I dont know what the chances are for a van coming the wrong way in an underpass, but people do win in lottery and some die in plane crashes. So even if the chances are small, it happens.
@myastroflight The mind is a poweerful thing,anything is possible but at least admit that and be open minded I reckon.Too many people will believe anything without looking into it.
@myastroflight you have very good instincts, and you seem like a very intuitive person and you are able to judge situations very well. You could say that it was your gaurdian angel speaking to you but I would say that you were just being a safe and smart driver. your looking obvouisly looking for something spiritually in that experience but from an outsiders point of view i wouldn't read to much into it, I would have slowed down to. glad to hear the kid was ok. I would have slowed down aswell.
@myastroflight you have very good instincts, and you seem like a very intuitive person and you are able to judge situations very well. You could say that it was your gaurdian angel speaking to you but I would say that you were just being a safe and smart driver. your looking obvouisly looking for something spiritually in that experience but from an outsiders point of view i wouldn't read to much into it, I would have slowed down to. glad to hear the kid was ok. sorry to kill your buzz
Dawkins spent 50 minutes interviewing Derron Brown to get to this crap about Christianity in this video.
The ending to this interview sucked......Can Dawkins so something without having to bash Christianity?
Actually Darren, the Bible has been verified as a, "Historical" piece of evidence. Several historians of the time of Jesus have wrote in other historical texts several of the stories in the bible.
@Pjaynes781 Just because its written does not make it true. What if the historians are liears, what if they just wrote what they heard and not actual facts. How accurate could they be 2000 years ago? Some historians and scientist are not even accurate today.
There is no evidence what so ever that God exists. Although every religous person I have ever asked just says look around you. Believing in Father Christmas is just as ridiculous as believing in God. Although there is countless amounts of evidence to prove the theory of evolution, people just choose to ignore it. It's mainly because they want something to forgive them for all the sins they commit. Also they are scared of death, so something to comfort them helps. Religion is evil and corrupt.
@pollordubai And there should be no evidence that god exists, if theists insist their god is beyond logic and reason. If he is, then there could not possibly be any sort of evidence. They can't have it both ways.
@pollordubai You can't say it's evil though... mmm take God out of the equation for a minute - look at some of the morals and guides that religion has to offer, I think religion can be a positive thing on someone's life... buddhism for example. apparently, people who are quite religious live happier lives... ignorance is bliss eh?
@Crazee108 I can't say it's evil? Do some research. Granted there might be some religions that are recognised across the World to be good, but even those religions have some dark undertones. Also how can you take God out of the equation, when it is God in which religions are based? I am in no way religious and I live a happy life and so do all the other Atheists I know. You can't say religious people live happier lives. If being full of hatred is happy then.....
@pollordubai I know that religions are based around god, but i'm saying it can't all be evil, because some of the teachings the bible has are quite relatable and inherently "good". Yes I know there's a lot of bad teachings and messages in there as well, but I wouldn't go as far to say that the RELIGION is evil - rather the ppl who represent it... Most of the Christians I know aren't full of hatred, quite the opposite, very patient, caring ppl.. and I'm not religious either, agnostic really.
@Crazee108 Well it's the teachings of religions that make the man. If there was no religion then the people that act upon it wouldn't act as they do. Sure, some people teach religion for good and do good, but there are some religions that can only be harmful and teach you to hate and nothing else. Those religions are evil. Put it this way if there were no religions then the World would be a better place.
@pollordubai Look at it this way, how have religions like Christianity shaped a human being on the way that person thinks and acts? I'm a Catholic person and i do fear committing a sin because of the consequences. If a person is a non believer and does not fear or believe in hell then he/she wouldn't be guilty for when he/she does something bad because no God will punish him/her. Who will make the world a better place?
@Naughty08Girl That is just ridiculous. You don't need to believe in God to feel guilty. People have a conscience. It's whether you can live with yourself after what you have done. Some people can kill and feel nothing and some people feel guilty over the slightest of things. Also mental health comes into it also. Some people are incapable of distinguishing between right or wrong. It has nothing to do with God.
@Naughty08Girl If I do something bad I feel guilty because I have a conscience. I know how to live properly without religion. I know right from wrong. I don't think to myself I will kill somebody today because there is no God to punish me. I won't kill somebody because I know it is wrong to do. Everybody sins, so I'm sorry you are already a sinner, but that doesn't matter anyway because there is no God, but remember you have a conscience.
@Naughty08Girl You know, most animals have a consience. Even rats, there has been a study on conscience in rats. It's just natural that humans heel bad about hurting each other. I mean do you really think the world was more immoral before the existance of the bible?
@pollordubai As a believer in evolution, & a follower of "evil and corrupt" religion, could I ask you to explain existence? Whether as origin of the Big Bang, or even some cyclic re-creation (as recently posited), what is your position on a "first source"? Does the cosmos exist uncaused, of itself? You draw a very long bow, & one only tangentially related to this video (although Prof. Dawkins might be a factor). Until you have another hypothesis, respectfully, I'd suggest not dismissing theism.
@anonymouse1973 You don't have any evidence for your claims.
If we don't know the first source it doesn't mean that GOD did it. That would be a major assumption. And you would be simply using the GOD of the gaps.
@pollordubai Ironically, the only reason they feel guilt is because they've been conditioned to think certain things are "sinful" in the first place. Religion is the doctor curing the disease it spreads.
@pollordubai ... non-believers are cowards who think they are "free"..
satan has done a good job with you and with society to try and mock what is real but his time is coming to an end... and so is that of all non-believers
@pollordubai there is also countless amounts of evidence to disclam the theory or evolution.. for example.. where are the remains of a half human half monkey? and were did the original material that things evolve come from.. you may say the big bang.. what caused the big bang.. i think whatever the reasoning behind how/why there is anything is down to the persons belief.. in what ever they want it to be.. and i dont think that it is possible for us to understand how we came to existence.
The "what caused the Big Bang" argument is an old one. People say that the universe couldn't have come from nothing, that there must have been something there before, i.e. a god. First of all, this is a fallacious assumption. Who's to say that something cannot come from nothing? What if it can?
Secondly, if you believe that something cannot come from nothing, then that must apply to god as well. Meaning something must have created God, and his existence doesn't answer anything
@maximum411 as i said in my little rant.. i think that it is beyond the human mind to be able to understand how or why we exist.. so if we do not know in the first place how we exist, how can you say that god did not create us.. i never said once i believe or dont believe in the chance of there being a god.
and with the big bang thing.. theres never been a full awncer on that, so the reason why that question carries on popping up, is coz its un awncered. do you see my point?
Urgh, fuck you Channel 4.
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strokedude 1 week ago
i think Derren is at his best when looking at things like this, he just looks a bit evil when he shows how susceptible people are by making them do crazy things but he's done amazing work, especially, i think, in miracles for sale.
NancyhatesPi 3 weeks ago
of your limits
KataNight 1 month ago
These are my Gods.
jashugan01 1 month ago in playlist Derren Brown Interview - Richard Dawkins
He has been possessed by a fucking demon. I will pray for your soul Derren.
ultimateinfinite 1 month ago
Dawkins and Brown are absolute geniuses. I'm glad that brown didn't try to mess with dawkins out of ego. I feel that that would have been very rude. On the same hand I'm not sure that Dawkins would have even cared for it. For a face to face, this was an incredible interview, despite the fact that... I feel as if Brown should have been able to "flip the switch" and asked Dawkins on his thoughts more. Brown is amazing in what he does. Dawkins is the LAW.
anonynaw 2 months ago
Notice how part 1 has over 1 million views, then less and less to the final part. PEOPLE WANTS TO BELIEVE. It takes great courage to test these beliefs and make the conclusions for yourself. The sad part about all this is that religion is so deep in society, from basic education, to everything else, that even scientists hold dual views of the world.
Microglia1 2 months ago
did anyone get the name of the author which he mentions in 3:08? I'm trying to get that book about cold reading. thanks
osmystatocny 2 months ago
@osmystatocny Ian Rowland.
unite00uk 2 months ago
Derren how did u drop the bible with the argument that it isnt historically correct. it's possibly the most historically proved book in the world. I am a historian so I should know.
AnnabelLolita 2 months ago
@AnnabelLolita there are some fact that can be proven but most of them can't - like the existence of Jesus. I dropped bible coz it stopped making sense after I read another materials
osmystatocny 2 months ago
@osmystatocny What other material? I'd be happy to read it or atleast examine and validate it.
AnnabelLolita 2 months ago
@AnnabelLolita just read the bible as a book, without bias and you'll see it. I haven't firstly but then I started to read Zen, Taoism and so on and it got very similar. also the bible wrote smart people who read the old testament first and made the story fit to a new testament. but I don't think you believe in people living with dinosaurs and living 900 years as well as Earth being just 6000 years old. that's just ridiculous...
osmystatocny 2 months ago
@AnnabelLolita LAWL
Olikiscrazy 1 month ago in playlist Derren Brown Interview - Richard Dawkins
@AnnabelLolita -- where is the evidence?
imbaluris 1 month ago
@imbaluris -- If you are an historian, you should have all the evidence at your fingertips, so please share.
imbaluris 1 month ago
I think I love Derren brown..
Jessica616ify 2 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
Shame that #6 has the least views - I think it's the most interesting!
Dawkins007 3 months ago in playlist Derren Brown Interview - Richard Dawkins
Not as good as the stuff in the Mindreading Exposed ebook
yeeeeahdroppingteam 3 months ago
2:28 - from his lips to gods ears..
well you know what i mean..
20BagBoy 4 months ago in playlist Derren Brown Interview - Richard Dawkins
derren brown(illusionist) david blaine(illusionist)only difference derren can stand on the same spot for longer
brendinoglackino 4 months ago
@MKcFirth are you for real....Richard Dawkinsis regarded by many intelectuals to be one of the greatest Debaters that are activley speaking. He has almost single handedly created the opening for athiests aroud the world to come out into the open by single handedly shreadding apart all the properganda that religious fanatics have thrown at him. As Richard himself would probably ask you...."where is your proof he doesn't debate well"
theELUSIV 4 months ago
Brilliant interview.
wardy2294 4 months ago
Derren Brown = God
ManCanThe 4 months ago
so am i
shawno1231 5 months ago
Derren Brown is atheist
shawno1231 5 months ago
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Why is there A Cretaor? Why is there a religion? Why Islam is the true religion?
shncsr 6 months ago in playlist Derren Brown Interview - Richard Dawkins
MBA... MBA... MBA! I do hearby present Derren Brown with the Materialist Bravery Award! There is no Afterlife. When you die- that's it! But some people have the courage, fortitude and general superiority to face that cold hard reality HEAD ON! I decorate these people with the MBA. Congratulations, Derren!
benthejrporter 6 months ago
Real magick doesn't happen on stages, it happens in the mind..from the mind and projects out. Magic is a stage show, illusions, real magick..crowley et al works.
michael616joaquin 6 months ago
Utterly enthralling and enjoyable viewing. I love how entirely genuine they both came across. Why anyone would vote 'dislike' on this is beyond my comprehension.
DaveTheHeretic 6 months ago 2
Love it, and even though they're atheists I can't help seeing them as gods. Derren: the trickster, Hermes incarnate, not really caring about anything but laughing his tits off while he changes the world with his crafty words. Dawkins: Thor, the god of war and destroyer of belief.
plumberleyland 6 months ago
A SHAT MASELF HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
dougiepoolable 6 months ago
it is estimated that the largest fear abundant in the human population which is deviated in many ways is fear of the unknown obviously in this case they are scared of the posibility that hypnotists have controll over you and will do somthing bad, if you keep that in mind then you will understand reasons behind peoples actions in many life circumstances.
riskingeuphoria 6 months ago
Thank you for posting this, richarddawkinsdotnet.
writersblock26 7 months ago
@fatlardass2000
Even the most resilient human psyches can be broken by the realisation that they are, and always have been, wrong. I wonder how it it feels when someone tells you that the life that you have been living has been a complete lie. It makes us question... it causes us to worry... it induces physiological stress. We've all felt the unpleasantness of this to some extent. Furthermore, if your social circle continues to reinforce a "wrong" idea, how do you even begin to free your mind?
smoothbanana 7 months ago
I loved the interview. I could watch hundreds of such videos
w32sdfa 7 months ago
@jv8999 ikr? He's so good
diabl2master 7 months ago
If this wasn't Derren Brown and Richard Dawkins, I would still be impressed because it's a video of 2 men standing up and talking for like 2 hours without getting bored or tired.
vAznNoob 7 months ago
@vAznNoob
If you're used to being on your feet, it's actually more uncomfortable to be sitting for a long period - unless you're slouching. I bet they both had a nice foot massage afterwards :)
smoothbanana 7 months ago
there's something extremely magnetic about Derren Brown. I could listen to him speak for hours
jv8999 8 months ago 86
@jv8999 I think I have a new crush lol
SuperMemzzz 4 months ago
@jv8999 so true, both of them are brilliant speakers
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@jv8999 he's an entertainer, everything he says should make sense and go smoothly, the best way is the easiest way. he's not going to fight against it but go with the flow. water follows the path of least resistance, he's a pisces. in reality everything follows the path of least resistance when you look to the other side on the minute of scales. pisces; astrology isn't astrology but realizing that hot is only hot by comparison of what is cold all interpreted by the brains respectfulness.
KataNight 1 month ago
@jv8999 ditto. like some great actors, pacino or brando springs to mind, you're just completely drawn to them. that said i think this interview was a little disappointing. two great minds, great skeptics with different perspectives, and they've just talked about stufff that they both immediately agree on. i don't think they've reached any interesting conclusions at all.
musefan1011985 2 weeks ago
@musefan1011985 In all fairness, he was doing this for a show so he was only asking him about topics that relate to the show (ie spiritualism, psychics, mediums etc).
Awesomeguy614 2 weeks ago
@jv8999 he speaks very clearly and fluently, in a relaxed manner
Steven1992ization 1 week ago
@ServeTheWay Why would the existence of a higher conscious creative intelligence guarantee that you are held accountability to a higher authority? What if that intelligence frankly, couldn't give a damn? It's a bold assertion to claim there is a God, based solely on an unfalsifiable premise. It is entirely another thing to express that it has a desire for us to behave or think in a specific way.
TheNeognostic 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
Your strategy of using an argument from ignorance to attack a strawman is becoming tiresome. Even if your statement wasn’t false, I already made it blatantly clear that the implausibility of something is irrelevant; what matters is what the evidence supports. Your “brainwashing” and “accountability” comments could not be more incorrect (or irrelevant).
deviroth 8 months ago
Since you seem incapable of deducing it beyond a strawman caricature, I’ll be forthright- the root of my belief is that no supernatural phenomena have ever met their burden of proof. Until such a time when they become distinguishable from imagination, I will disregard them in preference to the system that has demonstrated itself to being the most reliable in distinguishing fact from fantasy and leading to objective knowledge about reality, regardless of anything it has yet to explain.
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
No, my statement is supported by evidence, while yours is falsified by it. I suggest actually examining the current state of scientific knowledge before touting your own preconceptions as fact.
“Life's Grand Design” by Ken Miller or “The Evolution of Complex Organs” by T. Ryan Gregory might be a good place to start.
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay can you not see that as he can be "brainwashed" one way you also can be "brainwashed" to think the way you do? I think the counter argument you have produced is very flawed, also you have resorted to just insult the other person, if you want to put your point forwards then do so but not with any anger or hatred, I thought that that was one of the core beliefs of almost every religion? or maybe I have just been "brainwashed"
RS114396 8 months ago
As unlikely and absurd as any naturalistic explanation may seem, it is still more likely than any supernatural one for the following reasons- they are constrained by observed natural laws; empirical; objective; falsifiable; demonstrable; well observed; and every piece of factual knowledge we possess was achieved or explained by them; Occam’s razor as mentioned earlier
The supernatural is the antithesis of every single one of those qualities and is indistinguishable from that which is imagined.
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
How peculiar that after I pointed out the red herring, your reaction is to expand on it.
Your argument about organs is simply erroneous. The evolution of complex organs is well understood and explained by evolution. Your second point is a bald assertion based on an argument from ignorance, against a strawman no less. That is all I will say on that, as those issues are irrelevant to the topic.
deviroth 8 months ago
Your assertion that such things can’t be directly detected scientifically is irrelevant, as I already addressed. The manifestation of such things can in fact be tested regardless of any bald assertion to the contrary. For example, we can test the accuracy of the knowledge of a person who claims to be in contact with spirits. Such tests have been done and the people were either exposed as charlatans or the results were no more or less accurate than those of chance or coincidence.
deviroth 8 months ago
What you have described is indistinguishable from imagination. Your claim is no different than “I think it exists, therefore it does”; and that an appeal to emotion and/or majority corroborates this. Sorry, but a bunch of feelings by a bunch of people is not evidence. Reality is quite often contradictory to human perception and intuition; this is why we use objective scientific means to demonstrate evidence.
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
Evolution ≠ abiogenesis, you clearly don’t understand evolution nor are you aware of the immense evidence for the theory.
Belief in the unproven ≠ faith. You’re equivocating the colloquial use of the word with the use as it pertains to beliefs. When a belief is based on objective observation and logical reasoning and deduction, it has nothing to do with faith.
But I digress, that was all just a red herring anyway.
deviroth 8 months ago
Occam ’s razor destroys the vast majority of these arguments because we already have preexisting, documented, naturalistic explanations for such events without having to resort to cryptic, psionic, magical forces. Such phenomena can generally be grouped into 3 categories- coincidence; deception; and/or delusion.
deviroth 8 months ago
…If you take it a step further and assert that even this cannot be quantified, then the thing in question is indistinguishable from that which doesn’t exist. In which case, it is by its own definition, intrinsically impossible to even make the assertion in the first place as you have no grounds to do so.
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
You seriously think it is unscientific to dismiss that which has repeatedly failed on all accounts to provide demonstrable empirical evidence? Science (and logic) doesn’t work that way. Until an assertion is demonstrated to actually exist, the default position is that is does not. The problem is that, even if something doesn’t exist in the natural world, it still manifests in it in some way or another, and THAT can be quantified...
deviroth 8 months ago
@ServeTheWay
Cool story bro. Was it actually supposed to be convincing? If so, who are you trying to convince? If the answer is anyone other than yourself, you are going to be disappointed. Any rational person reading that is not going to be convinced by the anecdotal story of someone who claims to hear demonic voices in his head. They will likely conclude either- the story is BS; you are delusional/mentally unstable; you were trolled by the woman in the chat room; or a combination of the 3
deviroth 8 months ago
Man, the more i listen to Derren, the more i think he's brilliant
sonykroket 9 months ago 3
@sonykroket I can't agree more. Sexy, smart, inquisitive, charismatic. The whole package. Dawkins too damn it!
MathMessenger 9 months ago
I like how Derren describes being open minded.
BeardedBill86 9 months ago
Before i watched this interview i took Derren Brown as a cheap illusionist but now i see he appears to be a bright, sincere and charismatic bloke.
Spinking11 10 months ago 2
Dawkins, which came first RNA OR DNA? You can't have one without the other. Oh yea, it was the lightening that struck the mud puddle that just created all the life on our planet. Whatever man. God bless you anyway!!!!!!
iristang2 10 months ago
@iristang2 I don't think we know at the moment matey, but thats ok scientists can admit that and just work on the solution. Can you answer a question for me, what created your God, was it God? Oh also what created that God, God? This infinite loop doesn't answer any questions. May Science bless your noodle!
perra13 10 months ago 2
@iristang2 Lyk Lolz pwned! Seriously, you believe a large morphoditic being in the sky, which I would be surprised if it cared about the small speck of dust that the earth is, even compared to the solar system, let alone galaxy or universe, created us and tends to each need?
mitchskater 10 months ago
@iristang2 Wow, arent you a genious? You could at least have made a question that would make you look smart rather than ignorant. Ah well. Science bless you!!!
Krauz85 10 months ago
@iristang2
Just as an actual reply, RNA was first as it CAN exist independently from DNA.
Also, you're just being silly.
Surtak 9 months ago
Brilliant.
seol1500 10 months ago
You're a good man, Derren Brown.
AnuYagi 11 months ago 3
Brilliant. I'm at a loss as to why some people have disliked this video though..?
Amernee 11 months ago
Great, interesting, educational interview! Thanks for uploading.
madder66mortem 11 months ago
He believes on his non belief
ZandiDolly 1 year ago
@ZandiDolly Oxymoron
foxfireman188 1 year ago
@ZandiDolly
I would rather put it, he has a lack of belief. He doesn't have to believe that there is not a belief, because that would make no sense.
Khorney 11 months ago
but on a purely logical basis we cannot prove or disprove a god. i like ocam's razor which leads me to believe that we should not assume a god exists until we have evidence that one does. because a god would neccisarily be much more complex than this universe is. bah lets just do this in private messages.
greycloud24 1 year ago
I would just like to point out that Derren Brown is gay. Not that it's really relevant, but it's just nice to show that not every gay person is flamboyant or effeminate, and that many are just your standard, reasonable people.
maximum411 1 year ago
Amazing
kotkee 1 year ago
In The Name of Allah The Most Gracious The Most Merciful
He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then He made his progeny from an extract of discarded fluid. (Qur'an, 32:7-8)
77705000000000000000 1 year ago
@77705000000000000000 delusional fool.
jin37uk 1 year ago
0:05 why do people hate Richard Dawkins? Look at his lovable little smile. He's a fascinating guy with an eloquent voice. He has a passion for knowledge and teaching, I'd personally love if all my teachers at university were like him
kly45 1 year ago 135
@kly45 Having watched many clips of and with him, on his site and here on youtube, as well as having read some of his books, I couldn't agree with you more. The passion, with which he acquires, stores and conveys information and knowledge just really blows me away. He's so thorough, without ever getting boring.
The reason many people hate him, or dislike him, is because he IS an elitist, or as he puts it himself, and intellectual snob. He lifts the veil. Ignorance truly is bliss for most people
muhhest 11 months ago 100
@muhhest you mad
Punish00 9 months ago
@muhhest you can't understand but guess the reasons by which many people to you hate him or dislike him unless it's your own understanding of hating him or disliking him, then is it really your idea. he may be an elitist when he recognizes that the idea of everyone having an equal amount potential is false from experience of himself and his ability to use what intelligence he has through ignorance of igrnorance to reassure him of his resolve and rationale. elite is an identity for easy.
KataNight 1 month ago
@kly45 people don't like him because he challenges their ignorance. He makes a really good point about the famous "psychic" (james hydric) who was caught out but it did not destroy his career simply because if people WANT to believe it is real then they will, no matter what evidence he throws at them to disprove it! Also i think his shrewdness is often mistaken as arrogance, but i am with you, he is brilliant!...............i almost said he was God but we know where he stands on that :o)
captainj84 8 months ago
@kly45 I don't like how he advocates the scientific method while treading on grounds that really belong to the philosophers. He should stick to his area of evolutionary biology - this 'crusade' against religion and superstition is not very scientific at all and Dawkins is not very graceful on the subjects of ontology and metaphysics, often mixing and matching ethics, philosphy and science and presenting it all as scientific fact.
achlysism 6 months ago
@achlysism That would be fine if philosophers and theologians would do the same. When they make claims like a man was born of a virgin, humans were created by a divine power and humans can talk to the "spirits" of the dead, they trample all over the realm of the physical world and the laws of science. In American, they even wish to teach creationism in schools in place of the scientifically sound theory of evolution! As a scientist, Dawkins rightly refutes these claims as nonsense.
Fahrenheit1407 6 months ago 6
So we get to this conclution, there can't be a god, there can't be no god, something is true. Very puzzling. I got to belive that the only existance not arbitrairy is 0-dimentionnal, and has no/an infinity of personalities, and that all else is part of this existance, and as a christian, this definition of existance suits my defininition of God: Love, unicity, all in one, and one in all. I could talk longer, but I just want you to realise that atheists have blind faith in a dogma too.
GregTom2 1 year ago
@GregTom2 they merely assert that the "evidence" presented for the supernatural is not sufficient for belief. there is nothing dogmatic about that.
any atheist would tell you that they are open to evidence, it's just that the evidence hasn't been forthcoming.
I assume that you reject the "evidence" presented for unicorns? I would not call you dogmatic or circular in your reasoning for rejecting unicorns.
CamronJohn 1 year ago
Being a Christian myself, I readily agree to the fack that religion is very prone to circular argumentation. That said, atheism also is. The hardest question I think there is would be... why? Why 3 dimmentions, why atoms, why time why all these things that always existed? How could there be a world as arbitrairy as ours... without an arbiter. It doesn't make sens. Of course, the arbiter doesn't make sens either. So why is there existance. Is existance real? I think therefore I am.
GregTom2 1 year ago
@GregTom2 The burden of proof is not on the atheist.
pigeonkid4 1 year ago
@GregTom2 our world is not arbitrary, our universe is here and functions the way it does because it works - it's quite a simple thing really - if it didn't work, it wouldn't be here! I think the question of "why are we here" (in terms of the meaning of life) is a false question or a question that has no answer.
you cannot just say that atheism is dogmatic and circular and then not follow up those statements. someone who holds no belief in the supernatural is not dogmatic. why? because....
CamronJohn 1 year ago
@GregTom2 “Why 3 dimmentions, why atoms, why time why all these things that always existed? How could there be a world as arbitrairy as ours... without an arbiter”
As human ditch religion and more move forward to be free thinkers, science will explain the answer to your questions, as science has done in the past. We are now learning where the universe come from, even theories about multi universes and multi dimensional frames.
Not long ago we thought the earth was flat!
TheFireHorseUK 1 year ago
@TheFireHorseUK and there it is, right there. Do you realise you just stated that you Knew that science Would find answers. That seems like blind faith to me. I belive in infinity of universes and planes, but thier existance is no much justification of their existance. If you know science will find an answer, then you know there is an answer other than supperior being. Blind faith again
GregTom2 1 year ago
@GregTom2 "Knew that science Would find answers. That seems like blind faith to me. "
You may call it ‘blind faith’ after all you are a type of person who waste their lives hands clapped together, getting holes in the trousers, talking to ‘imaginary being’ that is what you believe in ' blind faith'. I believe science will get answers as they have done in the past, using proven evidence of how the world works, I go with the proven tract record. Faith has ‘thin air’ and mad people !
TheFireHorseUK 1 year ago
@TheFireHorseUK do you realise that you just repeated your argumenst from last time, and all you added was a personnal attack twards christians? My whole point was to explain that any belief, including atheism, took it's source in a circular argumentation or in a statement of blind faith, and you helped me proove it. Your proof is no bether than religious people. They Know their religion is true. You Know that science can explain metaphysical concepts beyond our dimmension.
GregTom2 1 year ago
@GregTom2 "They Know their religion is true. You Know that science can explain metaphysical concepts beyond our dimmension."
Did you not read the comment: I make it easy for you to understand...
Science work on theories and factual evidence in many fields. Always explaining how stuff work.
Religion is a controlling propaganda for the many gullible followers to buy into an afterlife that being ran by various gods. Evidence of their existence – Nil – 0 - Nothing
TheFireHorseUK 1 year ago
festive query, Is it more likely that a man will force his way down every chimney in the world tonight, or that God exists....
jackaroono 1 year ago
In the 6/6 part, around minute 3:00, Derren mentions a "a great book on code reading", but I cannot pick-up the name of the author..., can someone help me? Thanks!
juancarlosferes 1 year ago
@juancarlosferes The author is Ian Rowland and the book is called 'The Full Facts Book of Cold Reading'. A very compelling read indeed! Although cold reading is used by so called 'psychics' to defraud people, it can actually be used in a positive way to develop rapport with people :)
vortexela 1 year ago
I don't understand...
I'm not sure who Derren Brown is... but from the interview I get the feeling he's been manipulating people all these years and just one day comes clean with this Richard Dawkins interview and all is forgiven?
Yquit4 1 year ago
@Yquit4 Derren brown is a performer. He has had over 15 series of shows on channel 4, involving psychology,hypnosis showmanship, misdirection and illusions.. he mainly entertains people with his abilities but at the same time lets people know that he is not psychic or anything. Since you live in australia you might not be able to watch his tv shows uploaded to youtube..it's a shame as they are hilarious.
/watch?v=bQKHap8DAbM see if you can watch one of this episodes.
Speiraz 1 year ago
@Spoooonman Read-
Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:2-6, Exodus 21:7-11, Exodus 21:20-21, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Luke 12:47-48, all deal with Slavery
Leviticus 18:22 shows it's intolerance of homosexuality.
Read these passages and tell me it's not evil
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000 Leviticus 20:13 Angry little yahweh.
asiankevind 1 year ago
I respect Derren Brown much more than I respect Dawkins.
Of course there is no God, but you don't mock someone for holding something sacred.
TweekDash 1 year ago
@TweekDash How can it be sacred if it doesn't exist? Think about what you're saying
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000 Nice disrespect. Are you another rebel without a cause?
TweekDash 1 year ago
@TweekDash It's actually quite justifiable to mock someone who holds something sacred that doesn't exist. What are they holding sacred if it doesn't exist? Thin air perhaps?
They are free to believe in GOD & make it sacred just like I have freedom of speech to say they're idiots. So don't tell me not to mock someone when I have good cause to (not without a cause).
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000 Well don't expect any respect for your views. People like you only add to the problem.
TweekDash 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this interview, it was very interesting. It makes me think that priests may work (and probably hey do) in a similar way :-)
adlozi 1 year ago
What a fantastic interview!
mattdot666 1 year ago
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The main reason people stick with religion(believe in a creator) is that it gives them hope that there is life after dead. On scientific side, you are gone forever after dead. People don't like to hear that.
nbsbb2009 1 year ago
Childhood indoctrination and defending your non-belief - first chapter of Dawking's book the God Delusion, brilliant subject... Although adults unconsciously indoctrinating children genuinely believe in the religion themselves and think that they are also giving the child the freedom to choose whether to adopt that belief or not (which they're not), it is still as fundementally fucked in the head as lying to some poor person whose child has died that you are "in touch with the other side".
lethimlive 1 year ago
@Spoooonman If you can't prove it and you can't disprove it then it's a Russell's teapot situation. Look it up on wikipedia
anka2468 1 year ago
i'd like to hear what they think about buddhism...
happyseaurchin 1 year ago
@Spoooonman If I said to you I believe that little green donkeys created the Earth to harvest carrots and with the help of invisible scarecrows they created the Universe, but the scarecrows wanted to have it all to themselves so they killed of the little green donkeys and created disease to punish the rebel scarecrows who thought it was wrong to kill the donkeys. Now the scarecrows live in caves all over the World were they are plotting to destroy the World with invisible guns. What would u say?
pollordubai 1 year ago
@pollordubai I would say you should probably get out more and keep taking the tablets.
dukestt 1 year ago
@dukestt Yeah the point is what I've just wrote is just as believable as a God who created the Earth. There is no proof for either. So you could teach anything and nobody is supposed to say anything, because there is no proof.
pollordubai 1 year ago
@pollordubai forgive me I was being flippant, I meant to say that I understood what Derren was saying because I got out of something at a young age, about not believing the bible but being forced to. I have met him but didn't get a chance to talk to him which was a shame.
dukestt 1 year ago
These two should call Kenny Rogers Psychic friends. They would become instant believers.
It's changed my life.
Spectre11B 1 year ago
A few years ago I was driving toward an underpass when I got the urgent feeling I should slow right down, even though I was already under the speed limit. Suddenly a van came out, speeding and on the wrong side of the road, with a very small child unrestrained and standing up on the front passenger seat. If I had been doing the speed limit I would have been unable to avoid the van, we would have crashed, and the child would have died. So, what was that? How could I have known?
myastroflight 1 year ago
@myastroflight
Underpasses can be dangerous. Is it more likely that you acknowledged this rather than getting some psychic message from beyond the grave?
RPFS2008 1 year ago 5
@RPFS2008 That wasn't it. I have driven through there hundreds of times, I know the road well, and I usually just tear right into that underpass at the speed limit. Also, that day there was hardly any traffic on the road, in fact that was the only vehicle that came out of the underpass, there was no other traffic other than him and me there at that time.
But when I got that sudden urgent feeling (or message) to "slow down NOW!", I immediately obeyed, and slowed right down to 40kmph.
myastroflight 1 year ago
@myastroflight That just shows you what the brain is capable of doing without conscious thinking. It calculated that an underpass may be a "risk" so it made slow
down. Now I dont know what the chances are for a van coming the wrong way in an underpass, but people do win in lottery and some die in plane crashes. So even if the chances are small, it happens.
alfonsobretti 1 year ago
@myastroflight The mind is a poweerful thing,anything is possible but at least admit that and be open minded I reckon.Too many people will believe anything without looking into it.
RussMaxable 1 year ago
@myastroflight you have very good instincts, and you seem like a very intuitive person and you are able to judge situations very well. You could say that it was your gaurdian angel speaking to you but I would say that you were just being a safe and smart driver. your looking obvouisly looking for something spiritually in that experience but from an outsiders point of view i wouldn't read to much into it, I would have slowed down to. glad to hear the kid was ok. I would have slowed down aswell.
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
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@myastroflight you have very good instincts, and you seem like a very intuitive person and you are able to judge situations very well. You could say that it was your gaurdian angel speaking to you but I would say that you were just being a safe and smart driver. your looking obvouisly looking for something spiritually in that experience but from an outsiders point of view i wouldn't read to much into it, I would have slowed down to. glad to hear the kid was ok. sorry to kill your buzz
TheMightyEuan 1 year ago
Dawkins spent 50 minutes interviewing Derron Brown to get to this crap about Christianity in this video.
The ending to this interview sucked......Can Dawkins so something without having to bash Christianity?
Actually Darren, the Bible has been verified as a, "Historical" piece of evidence. Several historians of the time of Jesus have wrote in other historical texts several of the stories in the bible.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781
"Several historians of the time of Jesus have wrote in other historical texts several of the stories in the bible. "
Go on then. Let's hear it
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 Do your own research friend.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781
I already have. That's why I want you to back up your claim.
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 Well then, enough said. Peace out my friend.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781
Pity that you run when your claims are questioned. Says it all really.
RPFS2008 1 year ago
@RPFS2008 Do your own research fake youtuber.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781 Just because its written does not make it true. What if the historians are liears, what if they just wrote what they heard and not actual facts. How accurate could they be 2000 years ago? Some historians and scientist are not even accurate today.
alfonsobretti 1 year ago
heroes, both of them.
integer22 1 year ago 2
i believe tht what jesus n mohammed and buddha n all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong ...
philos4r 1 year ago
@philos4r Where is your evidence that what they all said was right.
begood20000 1 year ago
Person A: "My imaginary friend is more powerful than your imaginary friend!"
Person B: "My imaginary friend will punish you if you don't believe in Him! Oh, and He hates women and gay people."
Every religion in a nutshell.
SamonMarquis 1 year ago 9
If you are over the age of four, and still have an invisible friend, you have issues with sanity.
judoyodan 1 year ago 61
@judoyodan What if I am five? lol
jesusgarciab 1 year ago
@jesusgarciab, then you are riding the short bus.
judoyodan 1 year ago
@judoyodan
Hey, no fair. I had an imaginary friend when I was 5 :(
Muffinzeshlongun 1 year ago
@judoyodan
seek the evidence dont talk like a parrot what they fed you
kotarak 1 year ago
@kotarak, you should look in the mirror before you give advice like that.
gypsydancer07 1 year ago
There is no evidence what so ever that God exists. Although every religous person I have ever asked just says look around you. Believing in Father Christmas is just as ridiculous as believing in God. Although there is countless amounts of evidence to prove the theory of evolution, people just choose to ignore it. It's mainly because they want something to forgive them for all the sins they commit. Also they are scared of death, so something to comfort them helps. Religion is evil and corrupt.
pollordubai 1 year ago 78
@pollordubai And there should be no evidence that god exists, if theists insist their god is beyond logic and reason. If he is, then there could not possibly be any sort of evidence. They can't have it both ways.
kablamo9999 1 year ago
@pollordubai You can't say it's evil though... mmm take God out of the equation for a minute - look at some of the morals and guides that religion has to offer, I think religion can be a positive thing on someone's life... buddhism for example. apparently, people who are quite religious live happier lives... ignorance is bliss eh?
Crazee108 1 year ago
@Crazee108 I can't say it's evil? Do some research. Granted there might be some religions that are recognised across the World to be good, but even those religions have some dark undertones. Also how can you take God out of the equation, when it is God in which religions are based? I am in no way religious and I live a happy life and so do all the other Atheists I know. You can't say religious people live happier lives. If being full of hatred is happy then.....
pollordubai 1 year ago
@pollordubai I know that religions are based around god, but i'm saying it can't all be evil, because some of the teachings the bible has are quite relatable and inherently "good". Yes I know there's a lot of bad teachings and messages in there as well, but I wouldn't go as far to say that the RELIGION is evil - rather the ppl who represent it... Most of the Christians I know aren't full of hatred, quite the opposite, very patient, caring ppl.. and I'm not religious either, agnostic really.
Crazee108 1 year ago
@Crazee108 Well it's the teachings of religions that make the man. If there was no religion then the people that act upon it wouldn't act as they do. Sure, some people teach religion for good and do good, but there are some religions that can only be harmful and teach you to hate and nothing else. Those religions are evil. Put it this way if there were no religions then the World would be a better place.
pollordubai 1 year ago
@Crazee108 Read-
Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:2-6, Exodus 21:7-11, Exodus 21:20-21, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Luke 12:47-48, all deal with Slavery
Leviticus 18:22 shows it's intolerance of homosexuality.
Read these passages and tell me it's not evil
begood20000 1 year ago
@pollordubai Look at it this way, how have religions like Christianity shaped a human being on the way that person thinks and acts? I'm a Catholic person and i do fear committing a sin because of the consequences. If a person is a non believer and does not fear or believe in hell then he/she wouldn't be guilty for when he/she does something bad because no God will punish him/her. Who will make the world a better place?
Naughty08Girl 1 year ago
@Naughty08Girl That is just ridiculous. You don't need to believe in God to feel guilty. People have a conscience. It's whether you can live with yourself after what you have done. Some people can kill and feel nothing and some people feel guilty over the slightest of things. Also mental health comes into it also. Some people are incapable of distinguishing between right or wrong. It has nothing to do with God.
pollordubai 1 year ago
@Naughty08Girl If I do something bad I feel guilty because I have a conscience. I know how to live properly without religion. I know right from wrong. I don't think to myself I will kill somebody today because there is no God to punish me. I won't kill somebody because I know it is wrong to do. Everybody sins, so I'm sorry you are already a sinner, but that doesn't matter anyway because there is no God, but remember you have a conscience.
pollordubai 1 year ago
@Naughty08Girl You know, most animals have a consience. Even rats, there has been a study on conscience in rats. It's just natural that humans heel bad about hurting each other. I mean do you really think the world was more immoral before the existance of the bible?
Queequel 1 year ago
@pollordubai As a believer in evolution, & a follower of "evil and corrupt" religion, could I ask you to explain existence? Whether as origin of the Big Bang, or even some cyclic re-creation (as recently posited), what is your position on a "first source"? Does the cosmos exist uncaused, of itself? You draw a very long bow, & one only tangentially related to this video (although Prof. Dawkins might be a factor). Until you have another hypothesis, respectfully, I'd suggest not dismissing theism.
anonymouse1973 1 year ago
@anonymouse1973 You don't have any evidence for your claims.
If we don't know the first source it doesn't mean that GOD did it. That would be a major assumption. And you would be simply using the GOD of the gaps.
begood20000 1 year ago
@pollordubai Ironically, the only reason they feel guilt is because they've been conditioned to think certain things are "sinful" in the first place. Religion is the doctor curing the disease it spreads.
I3L4NK 1 year ago
@pollordubai ... non-believers are cowards who think they are "free"..
satan has done a good job with you and with society to try and mock what is real but his time is coming to an end... and so is that of all non-believers
robertokatsikas 1 year ago
@robertokatsikas Could you please prove with evidence (not just your opinion) that Satan is fooling non-believers?
If you have any links to websites which contain this evidence then I would be happy to take a look.
I thought so...
begood20000 1 year ago
@pollordubai Did you watch the Father Coyne interview with Dawkins. How can a man so intelligent be so stupid.
All religious people have is faith. If they were to say it's not nessesarily true but I have faith in it then I would accept that.
Why not believe in Zeus
begood20000 1 year ago
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@pollordubai there is no evidence that god doesn't exist.
TomValedro 1 year ago
@pollordubai if derren lived 2011 years ago he would be jesus !!!
kinselator1 1 year ago
@pollordubai
Religion could be ignorant but your statement is very stupid also
kotarak 1 year ago
@pollordubai there is also countless amounts of evidence to disclam the theory or evolution.. for example.. where are the remains of a half human half monkey? and were did the original material that things evolve come from.. you may say the big bang.. what caused the big bang.. i think whatever the reasoning behind how/why there is anything is down to the persons belief.. in what ever they want it to be.. and i dont think that it is possible for us to understand how we came to existence.
666DeathMetal616 1 year ago
@666DeathMetal616
The "what caused the Big Bang" argument is an old one. People say that the universe couldn't have come from nothing, that there must have been something there before, i.e. a god. First of all, this is a fallacious assumption. Who's to say that something cannot come from nothing? What if it can?
Secondly, if you believe that something cannot come from nothing, then that must apply to god as well. Meaning something must have created God, and his existence doesn't answer anything
maximum411 1 year ago
@maximum411 as i said in my little rant.. i think that it is beyond the human mind to be able to understand how or why we exist.. so if we do not know in the first place how we exist, how can you say that god did not create us.. i never said once i believe or dont believe in the chance of there being a god.
and with the big bang thing.. theres never been a full awncer on that, so the reason why that question carries on popping up, is coz its un awncered. do you see my point?
666DeathMetal616 1 year ago