Rain water couldn't possibly be bad at all? I mean seriously, its rain and rain should be 100% only water. Sure, if you collect it dripping from your roof or from a puddle but i mean, if you put a gigantic clean bucket in a field then that water should be perfectly clean, right?
Reverse osmosis is not the best choice for rainwater purification. It wastes 4 gallons for every gallon it makes. Ultra-filtration provides the same four log reduction for microbes and only needs a small amount of backwash to keep the membrane clean. It's cheaper, too. BTW, the NSF has NOT approved RO for microbial purification because bacteria colonize the membrane, not so for UF.
Anyone know who makes or sells this compact unit and what kind of price? Doesn't look like this guy ever posted a follow up to see how to install or how it performed after.
@WestcoastMusicals actually reverse osmosis does. period. especially with an ionizer canister connected. 0ppm. perfectly perfect water with nothing but water in your water. get it?
@aeropostalbaby1 Go ask any scientist and they will tell you distilled water is the purest water in the world,that's why it's the only water used in laboratory test,trust me I'm a black elitist.
You need pressure to operate the Reverse Osmosis system, probably 40 pounds
would be OK, 60 better. I am curious as to what pump you intend to use, one that can run for hours at pressure with no problems. Please keep us informed of your progress.
Parasites and their eggs can be smaller than dust particles, thus they float in the air. Rains sole purpose is to clean up the air and wash it away. If you collect rain from plants... eggs, if you collect from air... eggs. We are literally being attacked by parasites, amoebas, pathogens and it's getting worst everday. Boiling water will require you to boil for over 20 minutes to kill germs or bacteria, thus you better have a lot of water to just make a glass of drinkable water. Distiller is best
Or yo could just boil the water you need to drink and at the same time use the fire to cook something good to eat. Seems like a great idea but in a system collapse, ie, Dollar collapse, this would not be the best way to go. I am just looking at this from a survival and more practical point of view.
@johnlvs2run The rainwater quality from my roof is 13 TDS which is awesome. I'm going to look up the old RO system to the barrel to filter out the suspended particulates, which should make this really good quality water. The question is if there's enough pressure in the barrel to push the water through the membrane. I'm routing the rest of the rainwater to my garden.
If its electric powered then its no good as I see it. God only know what might happen, but you can bet the power stations would stop after some time if mains water failed to be pumped??
It needs to be more SIMPLE and hard to break. Also the use of a "crank" handle to power the filtration process.
I stand corrected, you do have a post carbon cartridge for taste by the looks of it. You just forgot to mention it when describing how the water was processed through your system. Still, 6 stages is an overkill and unless customers have the dollars it's going to cost them more than it should to treat their water.
Anyone can build a filter system, it takes years of testing and real time trialling to work out the glitches with such a system. Should be able to pick up a good system for rainwater treatment for under $1000. If not, you are getting dud advice and have too much money.
And where the hell is your post carbon filter to take out the plastic and rubber taste (from your membrane and rubber bladder in the RO tank). Can't believe you left that one out.
RO is most definitely the best form of filtration and UV is great for tank water treatment. Don't think people understand that 1/3 or more of your treated tank water is going down the drain as waste if they opt for RO (yes you can use it on the garden if you are set up for grey water use)
Nice system Gordy. Your customers might need to replace the membrane every couple of months after the bacteria in their rainwater tanks eats the membrane to the point the TDS is no less than the tap water. Unless you have sub micron carbon filter prior that is. Need to put the water through the UV to deal with any bacteria before putting it through the membrane. Bacteria found in many rainwater tanks has destroyed a quality membrane such as Dow Filmtec in only 2 months.
Going for about $3,000, I bought one, it's not worth it not for that kind of money, any unit you buy, get a TDS meter as well and monitor the performance of you system to ensure you are getting what you paid for.
Again, Simple H2O 7 Stage Reverse Osmosis would not be my choice, for under $1000 you can get other systems that will perform just as well. Again get a TDS meter.
I have a similar RO filter from Ampac that cost me about $400. I use it to filter my tap water. It works great and is relatively low maintenance (occaissional filter or part replacement).
Waste of time ....... just need to put it through sedimentation tank, a cheap filter/ UV box to produce cleaner than bottled. No need for pumps of anything else.
@jojo808 - Rain will pickup everything in the air, toxins pollutions etc... you will be drinking heavy metals, chemtrail chemicals, parasites, dirt, pollen etc... The rain in the clouds are supposingly pure H2O, but now many scientist are saying that even our rain clouds are holding toxins and pollution thus not wise to drink. Get a Distiller or a Reverse Osmosis or go to walmart and buy a gallon for 68 cents. Toxins in water normally won't kill you immediately, they cause adverse health effects
@hydrobot2003 woe !! what parasites are found in rain ? Yep , i know there are lots of metals and other crap in rain in the city and high acid levels . All of this can be filtered before drinking which is the idea in this video . And its a lot better over all than driving to walmart of all place to get plastic jugs full of who knows what .
For cooking ,unfiltered rain water is nearly perfect. There are lots of ways to use rain in place of tap. I mean drinking water to flush a toilet is uncool
You know most of the people in my neighborhood has been drinking our well water without any system (not even bleach) for years (myself 5 years) and them (over 30 years). Myself because our old system needed replacing and we just did not have the money it costs. None of us have gotten sick, perhaps because we have 700 feet rock wells I dont know the water purifying systems are out of reach (financially) for alot of folks. I'd just drink the rainwater and risk death (personally)
This system seems to properly address the microbial aspect of purification, but what about the jet fuel, and the vos/voc content that may be present ? and PH ?
Rain water couldn't possibly be bad at all? I mean seriously, its rain and rain should be 100% only water. Sure, if you collect it dripping from your roof or from a puddle but i mean, if you put a gigantic clean bucket in a field then that water should be perfectly clean, right?
lontarus 1 week ago
is reverse osmosis just distilled water... bc I like beneficial microbes
there has to be a better way to do this using proper minerals and filterfeeders
sustainable2012 2 months ago
what is the make and model of the product?
supereinar2 4 months ago
@TheLordAwaked are you a cat?
davetileguy 4 months ago
Reverse osmosis is not the best choice for rainwater purification. It wastes 4 gallons for every gallon it makes. Ultra-filtration provides the same four log reduction for microbes and only needs a small amount of backwash to keep the membrane clean. It's cheaper, too. BTW, the NSF has NOT approved RO for microbial purification because bacteria colonize the membrane, not so for UF.
SparkleTapWater 5 months ago
shouldve put the mic closer to that old guys mouth....fail
MrGeoffrey834 5 months ago
nice video
waterfiltersystems1 6 months ago
Anyone know who makes or sells this compact unit and what kind of price? Doesn't look like this guy ever posted a follow up to see how to install or how it performed after.
plasticsguy01 6 months ago in playlist Rain water harvesting
probably costs way too much... just do a biosand filter
trip3commy 7 months ago
But you can just collect rain water and drink it, why go through all this?
solanima2007 7 months ago
Nothing filters better than distillation,period.
WestcoastMusicals 9 months ago
@WestcoastMusicals actually reverse osmosis does. period. especially with an ionizer canister connected. 0ppm. perfectly perfect water with nothing but water in your water. get it?
aeropostalbaby1 8 months ago
@aeropostalbaby1 Go ask any scientist and they will tell you distilled water is the purest water in the world,that's why it's the only water used in laboratory test,trust me I'm a black elitist.
WestcoastMusicals 8 months ago
@WestcoastMusicals thats nice. enjoy trying to install a 6ft still under your kitchen sink for $150
aeropostalbaby1 8 months ago
Or you could just transfer the collected water into a gravity fed Berkey or similar filter and keep all the healthy minerals. No pumps needed.
amusingisthedawn 9 months ago
You need pressure to operate the Reverse Osmosis system, probably 40 pounds
would be OK, 60 better. I am curious as to what pump you intend to use, one that can run for hours at pressure with no problems. Please keep us informed of your progress.
Jim
wa5dxp 10 months ago
So, the water flows thru the filters...but, how long does it take to filter all the water...
Depending on water flow the results will vary.....
patchcords 10 months ago
Parasites and their eggs can be smaller than dust particles, thus they float in the air. Rains sole purpose is to clean up the air and wash it away. If you collect rain from plants... eggs, if you collect from air... eggs. We are literally being attacked by parasites, amoebas, pathogens and it's getting worst everday. Boiling water will require you to boil for over 20 minutes to kill germs or bacteria, thus you better have a lot of water to just make a glass of drinkable water. Distiller is best
hydrobot2003 11 months ago
Or yo could just boil the water you need to drink and at the same time use the fire to cook something good to eat. Seems like a great idea but in a system collapse, ie, Dollar collapse, this would not be the best way to go. I am just looking at this from a survival and more practical point of view.
MrUAV100 1 year ago
we need every aspect of technology to filter water (UV, Reverse Osmosis, etc.).
nuen8 1 year ago
Do reverse osmosis systems require electricity to run?
ryguy2598 1 year ago
@ryguy2598 ultraviolet does!
nuen8 1 year ago
How much would that water purification system cost? Please advise, thanks!!!
davettalashley 1 year ago
How do you get the water through the RO membrane, with pressure from the cistern?
My RO systems are usually around $135.
johnlvs2run 1 year ago
@johnlvs2run The rainwater quality from my roof is 13 TDS which is awesome. I'm going to look up the old RO system to the barrel to filter out the suspended particulates, which should make this really good quality water. The question is if there's enough pressure in the barrel to push the water through the membrane. I'm routing the rest of the rainwater to my garden.
johnlvs2run 1 year ago
If its electric powered then its no good as I see it. God only know what might happen, but you can bet the power stations would stop after some time if mains water failed to be pumped??
It needs to be more SIMPLE and hard to break. Also the use of a "crank" handle to power the filtration process.
LabRat6619 1 year ago 2
This is an expensive method. Just used a natural wetland, reed plant, rock, and then sand system to purify the water naturally.
ScopedOUT2 1 year ago
how do you filter out heavy metals that have recently been found amounts greater than safe, from the rainwater??
Plum369 1 year ago
I thought Osmosis was a process that happens in the body for us to so called "breath"
Naturepheonix 1 year ago
isnt it just cheaper to purchase each part by itself and build the system yourself .
maybe for a poor guy like me?
TheDegree777 1 year ago
I stand corrected, you do have a post carbon cartridge for taste by the looks of it. You just forgot to mention it when describing how the water was processed through your system. Still, 6 stages is an overkill and unless customers have the dollars it's going to cost them more than it should to treat their water.
iamthewaterboy 1 year ago
Anyone can build a filter system, it takes years of testing and real time trialling to work out the glitches with such a system. Should be able to pick up a good system for rainwater treatment for under $1000. If not, you are getting dud advice and have too much money.
iamthewaterboy 1 year ago
And where the hell is your post carbon filter to take out the plastic and rubber taste (from your membrane and rubber bladder in the RO tank). Can't believe you left that one out.
RO is most definitely the best form of filtration and UV is great for tank water treatment. Don't think people understand that 1/3 or more of your treated tank water is going down the drain as waste if they opt for RO (yes you can use it on the garden if you are set up for grey water use)
iamthewaterboy 1 year ago
Nice system Gordy. Your customers might need to replace the membrane every couple of months after the bacteria in their rainwater tanks eats the membrane to the point the TDS is no less than the tap water. Unless you have sub micron carbon filter prior that is. Need to put the water through the UV to deal with any bacteria before putting it through the membrane. Bacteria found in many rainwater tanks has destroyed a quality membrane such as Dow Filmtec in only 2 months.
iamthewaterboy 1 year ago
If you are thirsty enough, no purification is necessary. You get a little gassy and smell up the house for a bit, but then it passes.
Wisegeorge 2 years ago
which model is that, would i need the low pressure model? (TGI reverse osmosis fileter it says on the side)
oscargurses 2 years ago
Exactly what I mean
TadiR1 2 years ago
Be careful what you buy and how much yo spent.
BE AWARE of:
Simple H2O 7 Stage reverse Osmosis
Going for about $3,000, I bought one, it's not worth it not for that kind of money, any unit you buy, get a TDS meter as well and monitor the performance of you system to ensure you are getting what you paid for.
Again, Simple H2O 7 Stage Reverse Osmosis would not be my choice, for under $1000 you can get other systems that will perform just as well. Again get a TDS meter.
TadiR1 2 years ago
I have a similar RO filter from Ampac that cost me about $400. I use it to filter my tap water. It works great and is relatively low maintenance (occaissional filter or part replacement).
WoundedEgo 2 years ago
Waste of time ....... just need to put it through sedimentation tank, a cheap filter/ UV box to produce cleaner than bottled. No need for pumps of anything else.
sixmagpies 2 years ago
have you heard of fluoridation, irradiation, other chemicals found in our water supply as well as rainwater
oscargurses 2 years ago
how many amps is your solar panel?
fjayrockst 3 years ago
what makes the rain water 'bad'/non potable ? is it the roof ? curious.
jojo808 3 years ago 2
Possible contamination from bird droppings, roofing, gutter and downspout materials, etc.
pakuataichi 3 years ago 3
i see. maybe a closed system that opens and allows only direct rain fall during rain would be ideal for drinking.
jojo808 3 years ago
@pakuataichi The man in this video looks like Captain Sully Sullenbuerger.
MisterClean121 1 year ago
@pakuataichi and Acid rain too?
DaniaOMGWania 5 months ago
@jojo808 - Rain will pickup everything in the air, toxins pollutions etc... you will be drinking heavy metals, chemtrail chemicals, parasites, dirt, pollen etc... The rain in the clouds are supposingly pure H2O, but now many scientist are saying that even our rain clouds are holding toxins and pollution thus not wise to drink. Get a Distiller or a Reverse Osmosis or go to walmart and buy a gallon for 68 cents. Toxins in water normally won't kill you immediately, they cause adverse health effects
hydrobot2003 11 months ago
@hydrobot2003 woe !! what parasites are found in rain ? Yep , i know there are lots of metals and other crap in rain in the city and high acid levels . All of this can be filtered before drinking which is the idea in this video . And its a lot better over all than driving to walmart of all place to get plastic jugs full of who knows what .
For cooking ,unfiltered rain water is nearly perfect. There are lots of ways to use rain in place of tap. I mean drinking water to flush a toilet is uncool
NWforager 11 months ago
@hydrobot2003 water you drink is contaminated at some point . and Chemtrails .. ??
jojo808 7 months ago
@jojo808 look up acid rain
grizzleybearz282004 4 months ago
You know most of the people in my neighborhood has been drinking our well water without any system (not even bleach) for years (myself 5 years) and them (over 30 years). Myself because our old system needed replacing and we just did not have the money it costs. None of us have gotten sick, perhaps because we have 700 feet rock wells I dont know the water purifying systems are out of reach (financially) for alot of folks. I'd just drink the rainwater and risk death (personally)
KARStarla 3 years ago
Good on you! better than slowly being poisoned by chlorine and fluoride
ophelianymph 3 years ago
Is the UV class A or class B?
awc222 3 years ago
Is that UV an NSF Standard 55, Class A or Class B rated? My guess is that it is a Class B rating.
All RO tanks empty into a carbon filter not the tap, as stated, unless it is poorly designed.
But all-in-all it may be a good choice for drinking water.
awc222 3 years ago
This system seems to properly address the microbial aspect of purification, but what about the jet fuel, and the vos/voc content that may be present ? and PH ?
jeffpicks 4 years ago
ftur
NUcitizen 4 years ago