I like Alan Grayson, but he is obviously wrong about what most Americans want. Most Americans don't want to think about healthcare. Most Americans are more concerned with Dancing With The Stars and American Idol, than they are with heathcare. Most Americans want a distraction from reality. Most Americans would rather blame someone else, then examine the issues. They just work, eat, sleep, screw, and watch bad TV. That's why Grayson was voted out.
He makes too much sense and was asking too many questions about where 550B of our taxpayer dollars were sent, but the fed couldn't/wouldn't answer. He was shortly thereafter voted out of office. Lesson: don't fuck with the money handlers, they own you. It's a shame, we really need an advocate like Grayson representing us.
I love what uneekspark said about "how can this man be a POLITICIAN, he makes too much SENSE"..SO TRUE..I am wondering that myself!!! This guy seems too GOOD TO BE TRUE...Grayson for PRESIDENT!!! (sorry Obama, I love ya, but you had your chance!)
I love what uneekspark said about "how can this man be a POLITICIAN, he makes too much SENSE"..SO TRUE..I am wondering that myself!!! This guy seems too GOOD TO BE TRUE...Grayson for PRESIDENT!!!
@bobbytiger of course he is. when a politician starts making sense and actually represents the people he gets voted out because the media machine does such a good job at manipulating the masses and sensationalizing shit no rational person would care for.
What America doesn't know is that Barack Obama has HIRED nearly every single person responsible for the 2008 World Financial Crisis to serve on his cabinet...
Grayson, you got it about half right. Thats better than most politicians. What you don't have correct is HOW to remedy all of the government's fuck ups through the years....and THAT is the "can of worms" no politician without a spine is willing to open and risk HIS/Her's cushy gov. job!!!!!! The payoffs/ bribes are just too good to give up...
@HandyMan101 So you'd rather people die because they simply can't afford the outrageous rates the private insurance industry is raping us for, and making a profit out of people dying.
Screw over? A single payer system would solve this issue. It works elsewhere, why not here.
@HandyMan101 Actually giving the rich a tax cut is not going to save 299 million people. Well maybe it could happen in China or some other places since that is where most job creations goes when we give tax cuts to the top.
The whole trickling down economics doesn't work, we learned that during Reagan and Bush years.
Giving the rich a tax cut does not impact the economy positively unless we have strict regulations on how those tax cuts comes with a conditional clause of U.S job creation.
@uneekspark Yet, he demands of commands no change. He is not calling for press conferences. He is not making detailed explanations on youtube or any other outlet. The fact he stands on the floor and speaks truth is impressive. However, this does not bring change and he knows that. Again do not get me wrong I fully support him. But, we need him and the few others like him to lead us. Not speak on a floor of empty cold souls.
@Downfurlife He is often on the news but he is no longer a Representative because he didn't get re elected. He doesn't have the platform for a press conference but he still gets on the news as a former HoR. sometimes. ...
@Maenad67 - I agree. They are two sides of the same coin. Still, i mostly prefer the democrats, who are less evil, less hypicritical, more modern, and more caring.
Liberals are sheep....they run with the herd.....they follow their shepherds....they graze on the grass of freedom....until the grass roots are weak...and will starve themselves until the shepherds plant new seeds...Mindless and nonindependent they fight for equality until everyone is the same and no one is an individual!!
@mysticalwhisky You are exactly right, mysticalwhiskey. Some day, the people who Liberals follow, will leave those same followers in the dust. Then what?
Everybody has health care you imbeciles, no hospital can refuse you if you need help and when you can't pay the bills, the taxpayer has got you covered. And where does Grayson get off saying that all of america cares about these things, if every american had the same ideas about what should be done, then there would be no republicans and democrats
If that report is right...that 44,789 people die every year because they don't have health care in America..that is kinda tragic...that's no small number...imagine that even though the means or procedures are there to save you, you can't afford it so you just....die...
Congress was a lot better when Alan Grason was in there. The tea party crap might have had a victory in 2010 but they won't in future elections after all the bullshit and violence.
@Mast3rdoom Yeah boy that evil Health Care Reform. Now I pay 7.6% less in premiums and can cover more of my family and companies cant discriminate against people for pre-existing conditions. Oh the evil now look at the mess we're in!
@sinistar99 You do realize that it increases taxes... I'm gonna take a wild guess here that you are on unemployment taking money from the government...
@Mast3rdoom My taxes haven't increased have yours? And how could I be on unemployment and have health insurance premiums? I was on unemployment (laid off during the Bush years go figure) and thanks to Obama and my Dem governor, I got $65 dollars extra per week! With that I was able to keep internet access and eventually got a really good job so I'm now able to pay more back than I took so it was a really good investment. So no I don't realize it increases taxes because it doesn't!
@Mast3rdoom Also... you do realize you can't get unemployment unless you have worked and payed into the system right --so it's not really taking money from the government. It's using a system that was put in place to help people I know Republicans HATE anything that helps people unless those people are billionaire CEOS getting no-bid contracts and corporate welfare --then the sky's the limit with tax payer money!
@sinistar99 What you fail to realize is that the 99ers(and there are millions of them), are taking more than they've put in. That's what pisses me off. I haven't worked for 2 years and I'm not on unemployment. I've saved for times like these. I didn't just go out and start a family and embark on a career. I didn't waste thousands of dollars on a college degree only to flip burgers. I worked. I saved. I'm surviving. Why should the money that I've put into UE all these years pay someone else?
How can any sane person not agree with this guy? Florida you people are IDIOTS for voting him out! But then you elected Jeb Bush so you can't be that smart can you.
@sinistar99 I agree 100%..... However, standing on this floor speaking to empty dead souls or closed ears is not an effective method to bring change. He knows better than we do these speeches will not command necessary change. He needs to lead us not just give spiffy PR speeches. I believe many people are prepared to be lead. But, it seems even those elected officials who desire truth are not ready to demand it.
@newnoggin2 Grayson is the ONLY Democrat and ONLY Rpub besides Ron Paul who consistently RAKED over the coals numerous Fed officials and Geithner about what they did with OUR money, est. THIRTEEN TRILLION mop-up of junk they created. This money could have paid for health care for every American for decades, all new roads, schools, the works, more than what was spent in the last 200 years including World War 2 and the Cold War, gone in 12 mos with zero accountability. Thats fiscal conservative
@dilbertgeg Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Unfortunately, conservatives don't really consider the needs of average people, so that's a light they simply can't see.
The right-wing in this country is comprised of all the people who do not have the ability to empathize.
Republicans are disappointed, because the Obama administration: -Saved us from another depression -Is growing the economy after GW shrank it to nuthin' -DADT Repeal -Unemployment benefits extensions -Equal Pay for Women -911 Responders Health Benefits -START Treaty Ratified -Health Reform -Student loan reform -Increased border security -Food safety overhaul Repubs are happy because they got: Tax cuts for rich people.
@demmmmm1 Totally! My hc premiums went down, my taxes are less and I can't be denied care for a pre-existing condition --and I can cover my daughter in college on my health plan! Will Obama's evil never end?
Actually it is the genera public's decision whether or not things are moral or just. That is why we legislate. Murder is immoral. We made a fairly good decision there I should say. I am looking at basic facts man. "Reading too much into this" is just a lame excuse just like "falling on deaf ears." First of all, we are not GRANTED any rights. Nothing "gives me the right." I am born into this world a citizen of Earth. I give myself those right.
It figures, PampersPete, you like to drink the water from those fountains of misinformation. You people are amazing don’t check fact, but because the right wing wind bags say it is the gospel. Do some fact checking and use your head and not for a hat rack! OMG
Totally wrong, look at the recent court decisions where your neo-con RepubliCorp State Attorney Generals tried to get in their state Health Care Reform repealed. The facts are, regardless of what Oxycontin Limbaugh, Professor Beck who still can’t add, liar Hannity who doesn’t know how to tell the truth, Sara Palin around with terrorist and is a legend in her own mind, and the rest of the 400 right wing wind bags
@MrILovethiscountry I voted for Obummer in '08. In fact, I voted totally Democratic in '08. This past election, I voted totally Republican. What does that make me?...OH YEAH! An informed voter!
List of companies who fought hard for ObummerCare, read the healthscare bill, decided they wanted no part of it, asked for and recieved total waivers from said healthscare bill...
Funny that he says that Republicans would ban bacon seeing as San Francisco just banned the Happy Meal...I'm glad this fucking piece of shit Libtard is gone.
@properbeatz I think you're missing the point...which is par for the course when dealing with people who hide behind liberty instead of in front of it. The government has no business worrying about the welfare of children. America needs to allow parents to be parents.
@PampersPete You are right, I am silly for assuming you would do yourself a favor instead of being deluded and special ed. Too many big words in our founding documents, perhaps there should be a NIV" version for you, or maybe more like DR Suess's presentation mmmmm
@splicedenergy I happen to have a copy of the Constitution right next to me and I can guarantee that nowhere in it, it will state that the Federal government MUST provide socialized medicine. Feed a Libtard to fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a Libtard to fish, you feed him for life. ;-D
@PampersPete Constitution says nothing about free schooling or social security either. But yet I don't hear you trying to get rid of any of those. You can't talk bad about a socialized program when your a product of one.
@Silk066 Nobody is forcing anyone to take part in Social Security or Public Education. What you retarded Liberals fail to understand is simple: THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT CANNOT FORCE YOU TO TAKE PART IN SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! By fining you for not taking part, the government is going against the very document that created this country. Take away the fine for not having insurance and you Libtards can run naked through the streets with joy over your health care.
@PampersPete News flash your forced to take part in social security thorugh your taxes. If you look at your paystub you can see that for your self. And if your child isn't in the public school system, then the parents end up in jail. Which involves fines. Unless your child is in a private school or homed schooled. So your makes zero sense whatsoever.
@PampersPete And furthermore what trips me out is that the majority of people who claim to be Republicans are struggling but will dedicate their time and efforts to argue over the rich one percent. But you don't see this one percent willing to do the same for you all. Poor Republicans fighting on the behalf of the rich who don't do the same in return. So who's retarded now? Congrats for providing the rich with free protestors, while they sit at home and laugh it up.
@Silk066 Newsflash! You're not forced to work dumbfuck! Therefore you're not forced to pay Social Security taxes. Looks as if you're a perfect example of a failed, government run public education system. :-/ Any other strawman arguments you'd like to look stupid over?
@PampersPete When the profanity comes it shows how little you even know about the Healthcare programming to begin with. And due to the fact that I only debate equals, I simply leave you with this. Your not going to have to pay for healthcare if you don't have a job. So back to your strawman agrument. What a clown!!!
@Silk066 LMAO! Typical Libtard. Go ahead and run away instead of debating your argument. I love it. I know people who have the greatest healthcare in the world and never worked a day in their life. Instead of being jealous like the majority of Libtards are, I embrace the fact that their lucky enough to have been born with silver spoons in their mouthes. Even though I could use free healthcare, I'm STILL against it because it goes against EVERYTHING this country stands for. Lazy fuckin' Liberals.
We have the greatest health care in the world, by whose standard, Oxycontin Limbaugh? Check the World Heath Organization, we are #1 the most expensive health care and ranked around 30 for health care. #1France, Italy, Germany, and Spain are in the top 10. The richest country and the only INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY in the world that doesn’t have health care for it’s people. CHECK THE FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND THEN YOU WON’T NEED THAT OPERATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE TO REMOVE YOUR FOOT!
@MrILovethiscountry Who said I was talking about America? I don't ever recall saying I was talking about America. *shrugs shoulders* You Libtards crack me up.
@PampersPete So do the free roads you drive on go against everything this country stands for? I guess this country stands for CEOs making as much money as possible no matter how many people they screw. What a twisted f-ed up view of what America stands for you must have.
@sinistar99 First of all, I don't drive. Second of all, this country was founded on greed. To give an upper hand against that greed, we have what's known as "Free Trade". If you're selling cookies for $2.00 a box, I can undercut you and sell them for $1.75 a box. Someone else can undercut both you and I and sell them for $1.50 a box. Simple economics...
@PampersPete hahah nevermind pamperspete covered it. You do take part in SS and public schools, drive on public roads and are protected by public Fire departments whether you like it or not. And none of that is in the constitution. But wait it is. You see if you could actually READ the thing you'd find where Congress is granted power to make laws and form agencies to "provide for the general welfare..." So by "Libtard" you mean "can read... has brain... etc."
@sinistar99 I'll never see SS. Libtards and Conservetards alike are spending it on stupid shit. I have no children. I don't drive. General Welfare does not mean Universal Healthcare.
@PampersPete" General Welfare does not mean Universal Healthcare." Why not? Who says? If you have a right to life and you need medicine to live doesn't it logically follow you have a right to medicine?
@sinistar99 I'm not saying we don't have a right to medicine but who pays for it? I'll use the riots in England recently as an example.
Right now, England CANNOT afford to send all the students that want to attend classes to those classes. They've tripled the cost of education and the Liberal working class morons are rioting and destroying their own cities. Why? Someone has to pay for those classes, teacher's salaries and classrooms. Why not the people who benefit? Makes sense to me.
@PampersPete Not to get into an argument about poor diet decisions made by low income inner city parents and the fundamental causes of our weight and health problem as an entire nation, but bans on foods with little or no nutritional value that are known to cause diabetes and other life threatening diseases and/or conditions wouldn't interfere with our rights as much as it would increase our quality of life as well as future generations.
@properbeatz I totally agree with you. I really do. However, we are America BECAUSE of our right to choose. Take away the choice, no matter how you personally feel about the reasons for it and America is no longer America. It's the same for banning smoking in bars through legislation. In america, people have choices. "Do I or do I not go into someplace that has smoking?" It's that simple. Legal product. Legal adults. Choices. It's simple. Repubs know this. Dems can't figure it out.
@PampersPete I agree that smoking is a business decision: If a restaurant owner wants to allow smoking that is his decision. However, you are missing one key factor: To smoke or not to smoke. That is the decision every ADULT must make. Like McDonald's for instance. When I pass McDonald's I see a place filled with the most unhealthy people and I immediately know it is because of the food. When a child sees McDonald's they see a play place and sugar.
@properbeatz It's not the food though. That's what you're missing. I'm a fat guy now but I was a skinny child and I eat now how I ate then. The difference? I don't get enough excercise. When I was a child, my parents could feed me crap all day and they knew I'd burn it off. Don't blame the food...blame the parents. It's not McDonald's fault we have forgotten how to parent. However, parents can do anything they want to regarding the raising of their children granted it's within the law.
@PampersPete It IS the food. Of course parents need to take responsibility for their child's well being but poor kids with almost no parental monitoring should not have that option. And "philosophical soapbox?" That is a very crass and accusing statement and has no place in this conversation. I am speaking my personal philosophy as are you. By the way, the founders built in amendments for a reason. They predicted more complex problems would arise.
@PampersPete Even if we were to take the same stance against McDonald's as we do smoking (ie; "McDonald's Kills", "Caffeine Causes Kidney Stones", "Sugary Drinks Cause Diabetes", or "A Diet High in Sodium Causes Excessive Weight Gain") the issue would still remain: You cannot give the option to a child to make a decision about his health. It should be illegal to feed my baby Coca-Cola and processed meats just as it should be illegal to give my baby cigarettes.
@properbeatz Why? For the good of mankind? Get off the philisophical soapbox man. Cigarettes I understand because smoking is a hard habit to break. I'm a 25 year smoker about to turn 35. Coca-Cola and red meat are not habit forming.
Keep this simple thought in mind whenever and wherever you travel America's highways and byways:
No man, woman or child is above the very piece of parchment that gives them the ultimate freedom. NOBODY is above the Constitution.
@PampersPete Besides the sugar, caffeine, and fatty high-calorie proteins there isn't anything addictive about Coca-Cola or beef. Our bodies naturally crave energy. The more, the better. When I speak of health I don't just mean weight by the way. I mentioned heart conditions and diabetes. These problems cost us a lot of money every year. If we can reduce the number of diabetics and heart patients now, then our next generation will place a lighter burden on the next and so on.
@properbeatz As soon as we hold ANYBODY higher than our founding principle, as the Libtards are trying to do, we're done for as a country. End of story. America no longer ceases to exist.
@PampersPete The constitution grants everyone inalienable rights. It also does doesn't allow Indians to vote and only recognizes men 21 and older as voting citizens. The founders could not have known about globalization and OPEC. they could have never comprehended the idea of having an overabundance of food. My question is this: How would banning the Happy Meal directly effect our rights? Would it benefit the general population and increase quality of life, or just the opposite?
@properbeatz You're not only reading too much into this, you're forgetting an important fact. Like I've been saying all along, freedom of choice. There's a little known law in Wisconsin that states that if a person is under 21 and with his legal guardian, he can get drunk as a skunk in ANY establishment. My father used to tell his friends a story...years ago he was at a bar on his way home from seeing his family. Next to him sat a guy a few years older than him and a little boy. The little boy
@properbeatz said, "Daddy? Can I have an ice cream cone?" The father, without missing a beat said, "Shut up kid and drink your beer." LMAO! Is that a moral decision? It's not for me to judge that. The law is the law though and it has judged and it has spoken. I've said all that needs to be said regarding healthcare and Happy Meals: Take away America's freedom of choice and you are no longer America. That's it. Any other argument you put forth is falling on deaf ears. CONSTITUTION my friend...
@PampersPete Secondly, I asked you a question. "How would banning the Happy Meal directly effect our rights? Would it benefit the general population and increase quality of life, or just the opposite?" I understand what you mean perfectly. You hold a simple concept. But its okay. Mine however is a bit more complex and well thought out: Legis. make laws, provisions, and REGULATIONS.
@properbeatz Banning the Happy Meal DOES affect our rights. You sound like a facist. It's my right as a parent to decide whether or not my child eats at McDonalds. Studies have shown that the Happy Meal toy is just one part of the problem anyway. It probably would benefit the general population but when one group decides for ALL citizens, we've lost our identity as a nation. I'll bet you LOVE what the TSA is doing as well, right?
@PampersPete Yes sir. I'm a Facist working for the government who comments on YouTube videos so that I may fulfill the wishes of the Illuminati. Caught me! One thing: You can't eat a toy. I really don't care that a backwards senator (who obviously has McDonald's hands in his pocket) decided it would be a good idea to support obesity and poor health in children and adults. Thumbs up! Your idea of freedom stems from a fear tactic that people have used forever. "They want to take our guns!"
@properbeatz They'll never take our guns. There's too many. I fear they'll take our freedom. The thing I don't understand about Liberals is they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. The President has worked out a compromise regarding the Bush-era tax cuts that would benefit everyone and the Liberals shrug it off willy nilly. Hmmmm...
@PampersPete "The thing I don't understand about Liberals is they will cut off their noses to spite their faces." That's weird because that's EXACTLY how I see Republicans and Conservatives...Just to make sure no "lazy freeloader" gets a free ride you're ok with all of us spending twice as much for less health care than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY.. the compromise doesn't benefit everyone in the long run because it increases our debt which would be gone if only we could go back to Reagan era taxes.
@sinistar99 This comes down to one simple thing that you're too stupid to see-Obama's Helathcare is ILLEGAL. It is against our Constitution(hence, illegal), to force someone to buy your product. Period. End of story. By making me a criminal, the Congress has themselves become criminals. I REFUSE to buy health insurance as long as the states and the Fed, in cohesion, force their insurance companies down my throat.
Open up free trade across state lines and maybe I'll change my mind.
@PampersPete Right now because of the evil government happy meals can't have lead or mercury in them. Do those laws affect your rights? OMG this is a fascist country because you have lost your freedom of choice to buy your kids mercury filled happy meals. The government has decided for you that they know better and forced you not to get happy meals with mercury in them. a reasonable person would agree having standards for poison content in food is OK and doesn't march us into death camps.
@sinistar99 Mercury is a strawman argument at best and ridiculous at worst. Too much fat and salt will kill me. I know this. I know that if I eat shitty, I'll die. Mercury can't be tasted or smelled in most foods. I expect my government to make sure the things I eat are safe. It's up to me to decide if I want to consume the foods that I know are dangerous. See the difference?
@PampersPete ...so if we can agree that it's ok to not allow poison in happy meals then what's the difference between that and having certain health standards in them... I mean we already have government imposed no-poison laws in place. The problem is when they sell a product that has such an adverse effect on the health of society as a whole, it makes MY insurance go up whether I eat there or not so it takes away MY freedoms by having them. Its a complex problem --Libs get it. Pubs don't.
@sinistar99 You drive right? Your insurance premiums and rates are different depending on where you live. I don't see you bitching about rates going up where you live because you live where you live. It's the same thing. I'm not saying we don't need a major overhaul of our corrupt insurance system. I'm just simply saying that the Liberal's version of it is wrong. I don't need nor want health insurance. If I'm forced to buy the government's insurance and taxed because I don't, that's illegal.
@PampersPete If you get sick, then will you assume the thousands of dollars of debt you'll owe because of medical bills? Many people that don't have health insurance, simply don't have money. They don't want to waste their hard earned money on insurance for medical care. But when something happens and they head to the ER, they're left with a $15,000 hospital bill and the tax payers end up covering this bill because the moron didn't want to pony up for insurance.
@SexSteakSoda As long as the Liberals continue to support illegal aliens abusing the system, then sure....what's good for non-citizens is good for citizens.
@PampersPete Where do you get the idea that Liberals support "illegal" aliens? I'm sure some do, but I'm sure some Conservatives support anti-semitism. I am a middle of the road, fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I believe in tolerance among all things, because in a society with over 320 million people, you have to be accepting of different cultures, ethnic backgrounds, race, etc. I am all for LEGAL immigration, that's how every white person got to the United States at some point.
@SexSteakSoda LOL! Where do I get that idea? C'mon man...99% of Registered Democrats are for The Dream Act. You know why? Legalizing illegal aliens pretty much makes them automatic Democrats. It's the Democrat's version of the 3/5ths conundrum. I believe in tolerance for LEGAL members of our society. As far as I'm concerned, we should be able to round up illegals and dump their taco eatin' asses on the Mexican side of the border.
@PampersPete Do some research into the Dream Act, it's for students who came here legally on Student Visas that have either expired or will expire. Anyway, can you tell me what's going on with the Republican National Committee? They are $23 MILLION in debt! LOL! Now, how is a party that preaches fiscal conservatism going to point their fingers and tell us how they're going to fix the budget deficit when they can't even manage their own money?
"This bill would provide conditional permanent residency to certain illegal and deportable alien students who graduate from US high schools, who are of good moral character, arrived in the U.S. illegally as minors, and have been in the country continuously and illegally for at least five years prior to the bill's enactment, if they complete two years in the military or two years at a four year institution of higher
2-Have you seen what your favorite LIBTARD spokesman Ray Maddow has said about ChristWireDOTorg? Check out what he had to see here on YouTube sometime. Further proof that the word LIBTARD is still relevent. :-D
@PampersPete I'm not a Liberal. I'm Independent. You're making yourself look like a goddamn fool when you use "libtard". Only in America would being "Liberal" be an insult, lol! Come on, you dipshit. Look up the definition of the word Liberal.
@SexSteakSoda Dude! Liberals have completely fuckin' twisted the definition of the word. Do you smoke? If you don't, why in the motherfuck would you care if I did? If you don't smoke and you go to a bar or restaurant that allows smoking, WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT IT? Are you fucking retarded?
@PampersPete You are ridiculous. Now where the fuck did smoking come from? What are you talking about? Do you just pull topics out of your ass and throw them into an argument all the time? Holy shit!
@SexSteakSoda I was using that as an example of the idiocy of Liberals. I wouldn't expect a Libtard like you to understand my point. Continue sucking the hind tit of your government.
Yet another post proving the view that rabid conservative teabagger posts are either/or illiterate, full of misspellings, bad grammar, poor punctuation, and vile language. Try taking a percent of that rage to research the issues and learn to respond thoughtfully to the issues of the day. The Republicans really know how to manipulate the natural anger of the ill-informed.
Yet another post proving the view that rabid conservative teabagger posts are either/or illiterate, full of misspellings, bad grammar, poor punctuation, and vile language. Try taking a percent of that rage to research the issues and learn to respond thoughtfully to the issues of the day. The Republicans really know how to manipulate the natural anger of the ill-informed.
@properbeatz Superior, Wisconsin just said no to the proposed Happy Meal ban two days ago. This holier-than-thou council member actually had the nerve to bus in people from Duluth, Minnesota for his cause....lol. Moral of today's story: Red State Wisconsin is NOT Blue State California. :-D I'm very proud of my adopted state. Now if only the Republicans could repeal the smoking ban....
@PampersPete And you said precisely what I have said: "It probably would benefit the general population..." Thank you. However, the line following that most beautiful statement is a bit on the side of paranoia. I would understand if they were trying to ban all lettuce or a specific brand of coffee, but a Happy Meal? If this is what conservatives/libertarians are fighting for, then I can't wait for the next few election cycles.
@properbeatz The one about the TSA? I truly believe that the Illuminati aka The New World order is setting us up to get used to the ridiculous pat downs. Our Founding Fathers were smarter than people give them credit for. They said what needed to be said in the most simples of terms. "Those willing to give up a little bit of their civil liberties for security and peace of mind deserve neither." Beatiful poetry there. "The tree of Liberty needs to be watered by the blood of Patriots & tyrants
@properbeatz from time to time." Again, simplistic beautiful poetry. Nonetheless though, those two remarks served two purposes. The Founding Fathers had a way with the spoken word AND they knew that government, if given the chance to grow out of control, would in fact become the next British-style royalty. They all were thinking the same thing, "Give them inch and they'll take a mile..." As for the next few election cycles? Just wait to see what happens. I hope you own a gun and can use it.
@PampersPete Well I suppose we should allow every individual to possess Arsenic, C4, M60's, and nuclear bomb making materials because after all, it is my freedom to choose what I want to spend my money on.
@properbeatz Sure. Why not? There are no guarantees in life and no one ever said life was fair. It's funny you should mention that. I'm in the process of putting together almost an hour's worth of footage taken down the street from where I live. I film history yesterday when local, state and federal authorities burned down a bomb factory house. I would've taken footage from the front yard if the authorities weren't such fucking douchebags.
@PampersPete Those reg. are meant to improve the quality of life of the gen pub as well as ensure fair competition in bus. (And I know there is a list. I'm just using bits.) Answer my two questions or run when it gets hard.
@properbeatz Pampers and most conservatives have been fooled into thinking that regulating giant corporations somehow tramples on the rights of the average individual. A single payer health care system would NOT TAKE ANY OF OUR RIGHTS AWAY. Not one. It's just a better system which would give us more opportunities and more rights and help the economy as a whole. The executives of the giant companies Pubs represent that don't give a shit about them are laughing all the way to the bank.
@sinistar99 I'm for basic, not over reaching regulation for companies. If something is dangerous for workers or consumers, it shouldn't be legal to do so. Libtards want to tax the "evil" corporations right out of the country and then have the fucking audacity to wonder why they're being laid off. DUH! Rich corporations pay our bills! It's a give/take sort of situation. I agree in a single payer system. If I don't have health insurance, I die! I shouldn't be taxed because I refuse to buy insuranc
@PampersPete Repubutards are the ones who decided it was OK to spy on Americans without warrants (4th amendment) want prayer in schools and public events (first amendment) want to ban EVERYTHING except guns and cigarettes..."Libtards" as you so stupidly call them care more about the constitution than conservatives EVER HAVE. Puibs don't even know what the constitution says they just call anything they don't like "unconstitutional," while they crap all over the actual rights it represents.
@sinistar99 You're response cracks me up. Anytime anyone wants something banned, it's usually a Libtard. I've lived in California for almost 6 years now.I've seen Libtards ban drinking at the beach, try to ban plastic bags, ban smoking at forest reserves where you can light a fire, ban fireworks over the ocean and try to ban open carry of legal guns. These are just off the top of my head.
Repubutards are the ones who fight for the Drug War, want big government to tell us who we can marry , what we can smoke and what a woman can do with her uterus. Pubs are against "choice" at every turn.... except for the "choice" for big corporations to screw us and get away with it. Here's the formula, If it makes big oil, pharma or insurance companies more money it's good and wholesome and American and stands for freedom... if it makes them less money it's bad and makes baby Jesus cry.
You are a heartless, full of hate, with no compassion a right wing loon. With out this new law, you or a family member that needs a life saving operation, can now have it because the benefits have no cap, and now a child or a family member with children aren’t penalized for being born with a preexisting condition, people who haven’t had health care for what ever reason now can get treated for what ever they have because they have an opportunity to buy affordable insurance.
We in Orlando took great pride in voting Grayson O-U-T OUT!
vccstudents 6 days ago
I like Alan Grayson, but he is obviously wrong about what most Americans want. Most Americans don't want to think about healthcare. Most Americans are more concerned with Dancing With The Stars and American Idol, than they are with heathcare. Most Americans want a distraction from reality. Most Americans would rather blame someone else, then examine the issues. They just work, eat, sleep, screw, and watch bad TV. That's why Grayson was voted out.
Qntkka 2 months ago
He makes too much sense and was asking too many questions about where 550B of our taxpayer dollars were sent, but the fed couldn't/wouldn't answer. He was shortly thereafter voted out of office. Lesson: don't fuck with the money handlers, they own you. It's a shame, we really need an advocate like Grayson representing us.
mvmone1 3 months ago
The Democrats answer to Chris Christie.
uncutsquid 4 months ago
my idol
punkmofo 4 months ago
Alan Grayson 4 President!
xxGhostXIIIxx 4 months ago 9
wait a minute....bacon's still legal?????
MrSafetymeeting 4 months ago
@MrSafetymeeting bahaha you'd think w/ our obesity rate, it would've been outlawed by now.
MsDDiddy 1 month ago
I love what uneekspark said about "how can this man be a POLITICIAN, he makes too much SENSE"..SO TRUE..I am wondering that myself!!! This guy seems too GOOD TO BE TRUE...Grayson for PRESIDENT!!! (sorry Obama, I love ya, but you had your chance!)
ash2ashindust 5 months ago
I love what uneekspark said about "how can this man be a POLITICIAN, he makes too much SENSE"..SO TRUE..I am wondering that myself!!! This guy seems too GOOD TO BE TRUE...Grayson for PRESIDENT!!!
ash2ashindust 5 months ago
Hey Alan.
Still unemployed?
bobbytiger 5 months ago
@bobbytiger of course he is. when a politician starts making sense and actually represents the people he gets voted out because the media machine does such a good job at manipulating the masses and sensationalizing shit no rational person would care for.
Ithyphallic52 4 months ago
grayson was right
bvdwidepants 5 months ago 2
Obama 2012!
whatsgoingon07 6 months ago
What America doesn't know is that Barack Obama has HIRED nearly every single person responsible for the 2008 World Financial Crisis to serve on his cabinet...
aikidoisthebombyeah 6 months ago
Grayson, you got it about half right. Thats better than most politicians. What you don't have correct is HOW to remedy all of the government's fuck ups through the years....and THAT is the "can of worms" no politician without a spine is willing to open and risk HIS/Her's cushy gov. job!!!!!! The payoffs/ bribes are just too good to give up...
swizzlecheeks 7 months ago
3:58 Look at all the empty seats.
ShakeMastaJake 7 months ago
dumbass
Masteroftuba3 8 months ago
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Ban bacon, the world will come to an END!
YellowSSS 8 months ago
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This guy wants to screw over the 299 million people to serve the interests of 1 million people.
what a fucking moron.
HandyMan101 8 months ago
@HandyMan101 So you'd rather people die because they simply can't afford the outrageous rates the private insurance industry is raping us for, and making a profit out of people dying.
Screw over? A single payer system would solve this issue. It works elsewhere, why not here.
TheLordValarath 8 months ago
@HandyMan101
what???
mhorton84 8 months ago
@HandyMan101 why would it screw you over?
Valholm 8 months ago
@HandyMan101 Actually giving the rich a tax cut is not going to save 299 million people. Well maybe it could happen in China or some other places since that is where most job creations goes when we give tax cuts to the top.
The whole trickling down economics doesn't work, we learned that during Reagan and Bush years.
Giving the rich a tax cut does not impact the economy positively unless we have strict regulations on how those tax cuts comes with a conditional clause of U.S job creation.
Neosaigo 7 months ago 2
Alan Grayson, You have big balls!! I love you man!! You kick ass!!!!!!
VIKING33NY 8 months ago
Dude is a genius
drgreenshum188 9 months ago
Alan Grayson for President!!!!!
NowThePeople 9 months ago
No one is safe!! Corruption run throu them all!!!?
AnglesM888 9 months ago
Weiner/Grayson 2012! Check Weiner take on republicans! He's great!
ChocolateORE 10 months ago
@uneekspark Yet, he demands of commands no change. He is not calling for press conferences. He is not making detailed explanations on youtube or any other outlet. The fact he stands on the floor and speaks truth is impressive. However, this does not bring change and he knows that. Again do not get me wrong I fully support him. But, we need him and the few others like him to lead us. Not speak on a floor of empty cold souls.
Downfurlife 10 months ago
@Downfurlife He is often on the news but he is no longer a Representative because he didn't get re elected. He doesn't have the platform for a press conference but he still gets on the news as a former HoR. sometimes. ...
Dumblewh0re 9 months ago
I am so glad he got beat.
trj522 10 months ago
America. make this guy your next president if you have any sense.
lithrininit 10 months ago
America does not care about you Olympia Snowe, LMFAO! Classic!
deeppurple28 11 months ago
Notice at 3:55. Why is the chamber mostly empty?
LeCommensale 11 months ago
@LeCommensale They're all off with lobbyists.
Maenad67 10 months ago
@Maenad67 - I agree. They are two sides of the same coin. Still, i mostly prefer the democrats, who are less evil, less hypicritical, more modern, and more caring.
LeCommensale 10 months ago
Grayson is right. Most Republican party members and supporters really, really, suuuucccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
LeCommensale 11 months ago
This congressman is a badass!
stairs021 11 months ago
The tea party tools voted against this guy! I hope you idiots get what you deserve!
deeppurple28 11 months ago
its deppressing tht this guy wasnt re-elected
1yearyounger 11 months ago
Liberals are sheep....they run with the herd.....they follow their shepherds....they graze on the grass of freedom....until the grass roots are weak...and will starve themselves until the shepherds plant new seeds...Mindless and nonindependent they fight for equality until everyone is the same and no one is an individual!!
mysticalwhisky 11 months ago
@mysticalwhisky You are exactly right, mysticalwhiskey. Some day, the people who Liberals follow, will leave those same followers in the dust. Then what?
PampersPete 11 months ago
i love this guy, finally a tru representative
1yearyounger 11 months ago
@1yearyounger Yeah.....Too bad he lost his fuckin' job.....LMAO!
PampersPete 11 months ago
Everybody has health care you imbeciles, no hospital can refuse you if you need help and when you can't pay the bills, the taxpayer has got you covered. And where does Grayson get off saying that all of america cares about these things, if every american had the same ideas about what should be done, then there would be no republicans and democrats
LilADow 1 year ago
If that report is right...that 44,789 people die every year because they don't have health care in America..that is kinda tragic...that's no small number...imagine that even though the means or procedures are there to save you, you can't afford it so you just....die...
azarel7 1 year ago
Congress was a lot better when Alan Grason was in there. The tea party crap might have had a victory in 2010 but they won't in future elections after all the bullshit and violence.
hermitcrab8518 1 year ago
Fuck Olympia Snowe, in fact while you're at it, Fuck the Senate, Its Useless!
deeppurple28 1 year ago
Health care... look where that's gotten us.
Mast3rdoom 1 year ago
@Mast3rdoom what do you mean?
mozfan2436 1 year ago
@Mast3rdoom Yeah boy that evil Health Care Reform. Now I pay 7.6% less in premiums and can cover more of my family and companies cant discriminate against people for pre-existing conditions. Oh the evil now look at the mess we're in!
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 You do realize that it increases taxes... I'm gonna take a wild guess here that you are on unemployment taking money from the government...
Mast3rdoom 1 year ago
@Mast3rdoom My taxes haven't increased have yours? And how could I be on unemployment and have health insurance premiums? I was on unemployment (laid off during the Bush years go figure) and thanks to Obama and my Dem governor, I got $65 dollars extra per week! With that I was able to keep internet access and eventually got a really good job so I'm now able to pay more back than I took so it was a really good investment. So no I don't realize it increases taxes because it doesn't!
sinistar99 1 year ago
@Mast3rdoom Also... you do realize you can't get unemployment unless you have worked and payed into the system right --so it's not really taking money from the government. It's using a system that was put in place to help people I know Republicans HATE anything that helps people unless those people are billionaire CEOS getting no-bid contracts and corporate welfare --then the sky's the limit with tax payer money!
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 What you fail to realize is that the 99ers(and there are millions of them), are taking more than they've put in. That's what pisses me off. I haven't worked for 2 years and I'm not on unemployment. I've saved for times like these. I didn't just go out and start a family and embark on a career. I didn't waste thousands of dollars on a college degree only to flip burgers. I worked. I saved. I'm surviving. Why should the money that I've put into UE all these years pay someone else?
PampersPete 1 year ago
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deeppurple28 1 year ago
He's excellent!!! He's got balls!!! He should run for President!!
VIKING33NY 1 year ago
How can any sane person not agree with this guy? Florida you people are IDIOTS for voting him out! But then you elected Jeb Bush so you can't be that smart can you.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 they are not elected they are slected...put in place
missionaryoffaith 1 year ago
@missionaryoffaith I'm sorry governors are appointed in Florida? Really? I didn't know that. Who appoints them?
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 The one with" the agenda"....!!!
missionaryoffaith 1 year ago
How can any sane person not agree with this guy?
sinistar99 1 year ago 51
@sinistar99 All the sane ones do. The ones who don't (conservatives) are not sane.
demmmmm1 1 year ago
@sinistar99 well it's simple. most of america is uneducated, unintelligent, or brainwashed by christianity or some combination of the three.
FatherofMan25 1 year ago
@sinistar99 I agree 100%..... However, standing on this floor speaking to empty dead souls or closed ears is not an effective method to bring change. He knows better than we do these speeches will not command necessary change. He needs to lead us not just give spiffy PR speeches. I believe many people are prepared to be lead. But, it seems even those elected officials who desire truth are not ready to demand it.
Downfurlife 10 months ago
This guy is really cool.
s46d45m17 1 year ago
What an embarrassment. Good riddance!
newnoggin2 1 year ago
@newnoggin2 Grayson is the ONLY Democrat and ONLY Rpub besides Ron Paul who consistently RAKED over the coals numerous Fed officials and Geithner about what they did with OUR money, est. THIRTEEN TRILLION mop-up of junk they created. This money could have paid for health care for every American for decades, all new roads, schools, the works, more than what was spent in the last 200 years including World War 2 and the Cold War, gone in 12 mos with zero accountability. Thats fiscal conservative
dilbertgeg 1 year ago
@dilbertgeg Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Unfortunately, conservatives don't really consider the needs of average people, so that's a light they simply can't see.
The right-wing in this country is comprised of all the people who do not have the ability to empathize.
demmmmm1 1 year ago
This guy is a don.
TheGreatSimonski 1 year ago
I vote alan grayson for earth emporer
socorban 1 year ago 2
demmmmm1 1 year ago
@demmmmm1 Totally! My hc premiums went down, my taxes are less and I can't be denied care for a pre-existing condition --and I can cover my daughter in college on my health plan! Will Obama's evil never end?
sinistar99 1 year ago
@demmmmm1 Obama got benefits for 911 first responders! What a socialist monster! Is there no end to his Evil :)
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 Thank God it happened before Republicans took control of the House, or it wouldn't have happened for quite some time.
demmmmm1 1 year ago
The American people got Grayson out of the way.
alashieve 1 year ago
Rep. Alan Grayson IS A G!
Next President!
mugenmultiverse 1 year ago
Buh, bye Grayson.
razumfrackle 1 year ago
Actually it is the genera public's decision whether or not things are moral or just. That is why we legislate. Murder is immoral. We made a fairly good decision there I should say. I am looking at basic facts man. "Reading too much into this" is just a lame excuse just like "falling on deaf ears." First of all, we are not GRANTED any rights. Nothing "gives me the right." I am born into this world a citizen of Earth. I give myself those right.
properbeatz 1 year ago
America's gonna miss Alan Grayson after December.
Slipppppers 1 year ago
oh HELLZ yeah
Ruffhouse789 1 year ago
Alan Grayson for President!
Chelsea4President 1 year ago
Rofl at people who use the phrase "Libtard" after voting for George Bush and Sarah Palin, and also after watching and listening to Glenn Beck
Linkupovich 1 year ago
@Linkupovich LMAO! I voted for Obama because Palin is an idiot and I don't watch Glenn Beck. Thanks for playin' along though. :-D
PampersPete 1 year ago
It figures, PampersPete, you like to drink the water from those fountains of misinformation. You people are amazing don’t check fact, but because the right wing wind bags say it is the gospel. Do some fact checking and use your head and not for a hat rack! OMG
MrILovethiscountry 1 year ago
@MrILovethiscountry Yeah. Ok. The Democrats are TOTALLY honest though, right? Speaking of drinking kool-aid....
PampersPete 1 year ago
Totally wrong, look at the recent court decisions where your neo-con RepubliCorp State Attorney Generals tried to get in their state Health Care Reform repealed. The facts are, regardless of what Oxycontin Limbaugh, Professor Beck who still can’t add, liar Hannity who doesn’t know how to tell the truth, Sara Palin around with terrorist and is a legend in her own mind, and the rest of the 400 right wing wind bags
MrILovethiscountry 1 year ago
@MrILovethiscountry I voted for Obummer in '08. In fact, I voted totally Democratic in '08. This past election, I voted totally Republican. What does that make me?...OH YEAH! An informed voter!
PampersPete 1 year ago
List of companies who fought hard for ObummerCare, read the healthscare bill, decided they wanted no part of it, asked for and recieved total waivers from said healthscare bill...
hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html
PampersPete 1 year ago
Funny that he says that Republicans would ban bacon seeing as San Francisco just banned the Happy Meal...I'm glad this fucking piece of shit Libtard is gone.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete fuck you redneck
Weerzer 1 year ago
@Weerzer Lulz! You Libtards are so precious.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete One more thing, your an idiot!
MrILovethiscountry 1 year ago
@MrILovethiscountry Thanks. :-D When I piss people like you off, I know I've proven my point.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Yes sir. Nothing is healthier for a child than a happy meal.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz I think you're missing the point...which is par for the course when dealing with people who hide behind liberty instead of in front of it. The government has no business worrying about the welfare of children. America needs to allow parents to be parents.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete The constitution states the government has a duty to enforce everyones well-being. Read it and weep
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Silly Libtards.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete You are right, I am silly for assuming you would do yourself a favor instead of being deluded and special ed. Too many big words in our founding documents, perhaps there should be a NIV" version for you, or maybe more like DR Suess's presentation mmmmm
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy I happen to have a copy of the Constitution right next to me and I can guarantee that nowhere in it, it will state that the Federal government MUST provide socialized medicine. Feed a Libtard to fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a Libtard to fish, you feed him for life. ;-D
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Constitution says nothing about free schooling or social security either. But yet I don't hear you trying to get rid of any of those. You can't talk bad about a socialized program when your a product of one.
Silk066 1 year ago
@Silk066 Nobody is forcing anyone to take part in Social Security or Public Education. What you retarded Liberals fail to understand is simple: THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT CANNOT FORCE YOU TO TAKE PART IN SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! By fining you for not taking part, the government is going against the very document that created this country. Take away the fine for not having insurance and you Libtards can run naked through the streets with joy over your health care.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete News flash your forced to take part in social security thorugh your taxes. If you look at your paystub you can see that for your self. And if your child isn't in the public school system, then the parents end up in jail. Which involves fines. Unless your child is in a private school or homed schooled. So your makes zero sense whatsoever.
Silk066 1 year ago
@PampersPete And furthermore what trips me out is that the majority of people who claim to be Republicans are struggling but will dedicate their time and efforts to argue over the rich one percent. But you don't see this one percent willing to do the same for you all. Poor Republicans fighting on the behalf of the rich who don't do the same in return. So who's retarded now? Congrats for providing the rich with free protestors, while they sit at home and laugh it up.
Silk066 1 year ago
@Silk066 Newsflash! You're not forced to work dumbfuck! Therefore you're not forced to pay Social Security taxes. Looks as if you're a perfect example of a failed, government run public education system. :-/ Any other strawman arguments you'd like to look stupid over?
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete When the profanity comes it shows how little you even know about the Healthcare programming to begin with. And due to the fact that I only debate equals, I simply leave you with this. Your not going to have to pay for healthcare if you don't have a job. So back to your strawman agrument. What a clown!!!
Silk066 1 year ago
@Silk066 LMAO! Typical Libtard. Go ahead and run away instead of debating your argument. I love it. I know people who have the greatest healthcare in the world and never worked a day in their life. Instead of being jealous like the majority of Libtards are, I embrace the fact that their lucky enough to have been born with silver spoons in their mouthes. Even though I could use free healthcare, I'm STILL against it because it goes against EVERYTHING this country stands for. Lazy fuckin' Liberals.
PampersPete 1 year ago
We have the greatest health care in the world, by whose standard, Oxycontin Limbaugh? Check the World Heath Organization, we are #1 the most expensive health care and ranked around 30 for health care. #1France, Italy, Germany, and Spain are in the top 10. The richest country and the only INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY in the world that doesn’t have health care for it’s people. CHECK THE FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND THEN YOU WON’T NEED THAT OPERATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE TO REMOVE YOUR FOOT!
MrILovethiscountry 1 year ago
@MrILovethiscountry Who said I was talking about America? I don't ever recall saying I was talking about America. *shrugs shoulders* You Libtards crack me up.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete So do the free roads you drive on go against everything this country stands for? I guess this country stands for CEOs making as much money as possible no matter how many people they screw. What a twisted f-ed up view of what America stands for you must have.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 First of all, I don't drive. Second of all, this country was founded on greed. To give an upper hand against that greed, we have what's known as "Free Trade". If you're selling cookies for $2.00 a box, I can undercut you and sell them for $1.75 a box. Someone else can undercut both you and I and sell them for $1.50 a box. Simple economics...
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete hahah nevermind pamperspete covered it. You do take part in SS and public schools, drive on public roads and are protected by public Fire departments whether you like it or not. And none of that is in the constitution. But wait it is. You see if you could actually READ the thing you'd find where Congress is granted power to make laws and form agencies to "provide for the general welfare..." So by "Libtard" you mean "can read... has brain... etc."
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 I'll never see SS. Libtards and Conservetards alike are spending it on stupid shit. I have no children. I don't drive. General Welfare does not mean Universal Healthcare.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete" General Welfare does not mean Universal Healthcare." Why not? Who says? If you have a right to life and you need medicine to live doesn't it logically follow you have a right to medicine?
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 I'm not saying we don't have a right to medicine but who pays for it? I'll use the riots in England recently as an example.
Right now, England CANNOT afford to send all the students that want to attend classes to those classes. They've tripled the cost of education and the Liberal working class morons are rioting and destroying their own cities. Why? Someone has to pay for those classes, teacher's salaries and classrooms. Why not the people who benefit? Makes sense to me.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Not to get into an argument about poor diet decisions made by low income inner city parents and the fundamental causes of our weight and health problem as an entire nation, but bans on foods with little or no nutritional value that are known to cause diabetes and other life threatening diseases and/or conditions wouldn't interfere with our rights as much as it would increase our quality of life as well as future generations.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz I totally agree with you. I really do. However, we are America BECAUSE of our right to choose. Take away the choice, no matter how you personally feel about the reasons for it and America is no longer America. It's the same for banning smoking in bars through legislation. In america, people have choices. "Do I or do I not go into someplace that has smoking?" It's that simple. Legal product. Legal adults. Choices. It's simple. Repubs know this. Dems can't figure it out.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete I agree that smoking is a business decision: If a restaurant owner wants to allow smoking that is his decision. However, you are missing one key factor: To smoke or not to smoke. That is the decision every ADULT must make. Like McDonald's for instance. When I pass McDonald's I see a place filled with the most unhealthy people and I immediately know it is because of the food. When a child sees McDonald's they see a play place and sugar.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz It's not the food though. That's what you're missing. I'm a fat guy now but I was a skinny child and I eat now how I ate then. The difference? I don't get enough excercise. When I was a child, my parents could feed me crap all day and they knew I'd burn it off. Don't blame the food...blame the parents. It's not McDonald's fault we have forgotten how to parent. However, parents can do anything they want to regarding the raising of their children granted it's within the law.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete It IS the food. Of course parents need to take responsibility for their child's well being but poor kids with almost no parental monitoring should not have that option. And "philosophical soapbox?" That is a very crass and accusing statement and has no place in this conversation. I am speaking my personal philosophy as are you. By the way, the founders built in amendments for a reason. They predicted more complex problems would arise.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@PampersPete Even if we were to take the same stance against McDonald's as we do smoking (ie; "McDonald's Kills", "Caffeine Causes Kidney Stones", "Sugary Drinks Cause Diabetes", or "A Diet High in Sodium Causes Excessive Weight Gain") the issue would still remain: You cannot give the option to a child to make a decision about his health. It should be illegal to feed my baby Coca-Cola and processed meats just as it should be illegal to give my baby cigarettes.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz Why? For the good of mankind? Get off the philisophical soapbox man. Cigarettes I understand because smoking is a hard habit to break. I'm a 25 year smoker about to turn 35. Coca-Cola and red meat are not habit forming.
Keep this simple thought in mind whenever and wherever you travel America's highways and byways:
No man, woman or child is above the very piece of parchment that gives them the ultimate freedom. NOBODY is above the Constitution.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Besides the sugar, caffeine, and fatty high-calorie proteins there isn't anything addictive about Coca-Cola or beef. Our bodies naturally crave energy. The more, the better. When I speak of health I don't just mean weight by the way. I mentioned heart conditions and diabetes. These problems cost us a lot of money every year. If we can reduce the number of diabetics and heart patients now, then our next generation will place a lighter burden on the next and so on.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz As soon as we hold ANYBODY higher than our founding principle, as the Libtards are trying to do, we're done for as a country. End of story. America no longer ceases to exist.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete The constitution grants everyone inalienable rights. It also does doesn't allow Indians to vote and only recognizes men 21 and older as voting citizens. The founders could not have known about globalization and OPEC. they could have never comprehended the idea of having an overabundance of food. My question is this: How would banning the Happy Meal directly effect our rights? Would it benefit the general population and increase quality of life, or just the opposite?
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz You're not only reading too much into this, you're forgetting an important fact. Like I've been saying all along, freedom of choice. There's a little known law in Wisconsin that states that if a person is under 21 and with his legal guardian, he can get drunk as a skunk in ANY establishment. My father used to tell his friends a story...years ago he was at a bar on his way home from seeing his family. Next to him sat a guy a few years older than him and a little boy. The little boy
PampersPete 1 year ago
@properbeatz said, "Daddy? Can I have an ice cream cone?" The father, without missing a beat said, "Shut up kid and drink your beer." LMAO! Is that a moral decision? It's not for me to judge that. The law is the law though and it has judged and it has spoken. I've said all that needs to be said regarding healthcare and Happy Meals: Take away America's freedom of choice and you are no longer America. That's it. Any other argument you put forth is falling on deaf ears. CONSTITUTION my friend...
PampersPete 1 year ago
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@PampersPete Secondly, I asked you a question. "How would banning the Happy Meal directly effect our rights? Would it benefit the general population and increase quality of life, or just the opposite?" I understand what you mean perfectly. You hold a simple concept. But its okay. Mine however is a bit more complex and well thought out: Legis. make laws, provisions, and REGULATIONS.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz Banning the Happy Meal DOES affect our rights. You sound like a facist. It's my right as a parent to decide whether or not my child eats at McDonalds. Studies have shown that the Happy Meal toy is just one part of the problem anyway. It probably would benefit the general population but when one group decides for ALL citizens, we've lost our identity as a nation. I'll bet you LOVE what the TSA is doing as well, right?
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Yes sir. I'm a Facist working for the government who comments on YouTube videos so that I may fulfill the wishes of the Illuminati. Caught me! One thing: You can't eat a toy. I really don't care that a backwards senator (who obviously has McDonald's hands in his pocket) decided it would be a good idea to support obesity and poor health in children and adults. Thumbs up! Your idea of freedom stems from a fear tactic that people have used forever. "They want to take our guns!"
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz They'll never take our guns. There's too many. I fear they'll take our freedom. The thing I don't understand about Liberals is they will cut off their noses to spite their faces. The President has worked out a compromise regarding the Bush-era tax cuts that would benefit everyone and the Liberals shrug it off willy nilly. Hmmmm...
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete "The thing I don't understand about Liberals is they will cut off their noses to spite their faces." That's weird because that's EXACTLY how I see Republicans and Conservatives...Just to make sure no "lazy freeloader" gets a free ride you're ok with all of us spending twice as much for less health care than EVERY OTHER COUNTRY.. the compromise doesn't benefit everyone in the long run because it increases our debt which would be gone if only we could go back to Reagan era taxes.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 This comes down to one simple thing that you're too stupid to see-Obama's Helathcare is ILLEGAL. It is against our Constitution(hence, illegal), to force someone to buy your product. Period. End of story. By making me a criminal, the Congress has themselves become criminals. I REFUSE to buy health insurance as long as the states and the Fed, in cohesion, force their insurance companies down my throat.
Open up free trade across state lines and maybe I'll change my mind.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Right now because of the evil government happy meals can't have lead or mercury in them. Do those laws affect your rights? OMG this is a fascist country because you have lost your freedom of choice to buy your kids mercury filled happy meals. The government has decided for you that they know better and forced you not to get happy meals with mercury in them. a reasonable person would agree having standards for poison content in food is OK and doesn't march us into death camps.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 Mercury is a strawman argument at best and ridiculous at worst. Too much fat and salt will kill me. I know this. I know that if I eat shitty, I'll die. Mercury can't be tasted or smelled in most foods. I expect my government to make sure the things I eat are safe. It's up to me to decide if I want to consume the foods that I know are dangerous. See the difference?
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete ...so if we can agree that it's ok to not allow poison in happy meals then what's the difference between that and having certain health standards in them... I mean we already have government imposed no-poison laws in place. The problem is when they sell a product that has such an adverse effect on the health of society as a whole, it makes MY insurance go up whether I eat there or not so it takes away MY freedoms by having them. Its a complex problem --Libs get it. Pubs don't.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 You drive right? Your insurance premiums and rates are different depending on where you live. I don't see you bitching about rates going up where you live because you live where you live. It's the same thing. I'm not saying we don't need a major overhaul of our corrupt insurance system. I'm just simply saying that the Liberal's version of it is wrong. I don't need nor want health insurance. If I'm forced to buy the government's insurance and taxed because I don't, that's illegal.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete If you get sick, then will you assume the thousands of dollars of debt you'll owe because of medical bills? Many people that don't have health insurance, simply don't have money. They don't want to waste their hard earned money on insurance for medical care. But when something happens and they head to the ER, they're left with a $15,000 hospital bill and the tax payers end up covering this bill because the moron didn't want to pony up for insurance.
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
@SexSteakSoda As long as the Liberals continue to support illegal aliens abusing the system, then sure....what's good for non-citizens is good for citizens.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Where do you get the idea that Liberals support "illegal" aliens? I'm sure some do, but I'm sure some Conservatives support anti-semitism. I am a middle of the road, fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I believe in tolerance among all things, because in a society with over 320 million people, you have to be accepting of different cultures, ethnic backgrounds, race, etc. I am all for LEGAL immigration, that's how every white person got to the United States at some point.
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
@SexSteakSoda LOL! Where do I get that idea? C'mon man...99% of Registered Democrats are for The Dream Act. You know why? Legalizing illegal aliens pretty much makes them automatic Democrats. It's the Democrat's version of the 3/5ths conundrum. I believe in tolerance for LEGAL members of our society. As far as I'm concerned, we should be able to round up illegals and dump their taco eatin' asses on the Mexican side of the border.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Do some research into the Dream Act, it's for students who came here legally on Student Visas that have either expired or will expire. Anyway, can you tell me what's going on with the Republican National Committee? They are $23 MILLION in debt! LOL! Now, how is a party that preaches fiscal conservatism going to point their fingers and tell us how they're going to fix the budget deficit when they can't even manage their own money?
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
@SexSteakSoda 2 things....
1-Taken from the Dream Act Wikipedia page...
"This bill would provide conditional permanent residency to certain illegal and deportable alien students who graduate from US high schools, who are of good moral character, arrived in the U.S. illegally as minors, and have been in the country continuously and illegally for at least five years prior to the bill's enactment, if they complete two years in the military or two years at a four year institution of higher
PampersPete 1 year ago
@SexSteakSoda learning."
2-Have you seen what your favorite LIBTARD spokesman Ray Maddow has said about ChristWireDOTorg? Check out what he had to see here on YouTube sometime. Further proof that the word LIBTARD is still relevent. :-D
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete I'm not a Liberal. I'm Independent. You're making yourself look like a goddamn fool when you use "libtard". Only in America would being "Liberal" be an insult, lol! Come on, you dipshit. Look up the definition of the word Liberal.
SexSteakSoda 11 months ago
@SexSteakSoda Dude! Liberals have completely fuckin' twisted the definition of the word. Do you smoke? If you don't, why in the motherfuck would you care if I did? If you don't smoke and you go to a bar or restaurant that allows smoking, WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT IT? Are you fucking retarded?
PampersPete 11 months ago
@PampersPete You are ridiculous. Now where the fuck did smoking come from? What are you talking about? Do you just pull topics out of your ass and throw them into an argument all the time? Holy shit!
SexSteakSoda 11 months ago
@SexSteakSoda I was using that as an example of the idiocy of Liberals. I wouldn't expect a Libtard like you to understand my point. Continue sucking the hind tit of your government.
PampersPete 11 months ago
Yet another post proving the view that rabid conservative teabagger posts are either/or illiterate, full of misspellings, bad grammar, poor punctuation, and vile language. Try taking a percent of that rage to research the issues and learn to respond thoughtfully to the issues of the day. The Republicans really know how to manipulate the natural anger of the ill-informed.
Maenad67 10 months ago
@Maenad67 Hey numbnuts....I'm a fucking Independent. Yet another clueless post proving that the Left is full of retards.
PampersPete 10 months ago
@PampersPete independant because u can't get laid, go to ur pro life rallies and get off the fucking computer, white trash republican skumbag
Dumblewh0re 9 months ago
@Dumblewh0re ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PampersPete 9 months ago
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Yet another post proving the view that rabid conservative teabagger posts are either/or illiterate, full of misspellings, bad grammar, poor punctuation, and vile language. Try taking a percent of that rage to research the issues and learn to respond thoughtfully to the issues of the day. The Republicans really know how to manipulate the natural anger of the ill-informed.
Maenad67 10 months ago
@PampersPete Ask long as the JFKS continue.....
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@properbeatz Superior, Wisconsin just said no to the proposed Happy Meal ban two days ago. This holier-than-thou council member actually had the nerve to bus in people from Duluth, Minnesota for his cause....lol. Moral of today's story: Red State Wisconsin is NOT Blue State California. :-D I'm very proud of my adopted state. Now if only the Republicans could repeal the smoking ban....
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete And you said precisely what I have said: "It probably would benefit the general population..." Thank you. However, the line following that most beautiful statement is a bit on the side of paranoia. I would understand if they were trying to ban all lettuce or a specific brand of coffee, but a Happy Meal? If this is what conservatives/libertarians are fighting for, then I can't wait for the next few election cycles.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz The one about the TSA? I truly believe that the Illuminati aka The New World order is setting us up to get used to the ridiculous pat downs. Our Founding Fathers were smarter than people give them credit for. They said what needed to be said in the most simples of terms. "Those willing to give up a little bit of their civil liberties for security and peace of mind deserve neither." Beatiful poetry there. "The tree of Liberty needs to be watered by the blood of Patriots & tyrants
PampersPete 1 year ago
@properbeatz from time to time." Again, simplistic beautiful poetry. Nonetheless though, those two remarks served two purposes. The Founding Fathers had a way with the spoken word AND they knew that government, if given the chance to grow out of control, would in fact become the next British-style royalty. They all were thinking the same thing, "Give them inch and they'll take a mile..." As for the next few election cycles? Just wait to see what happens. I hope you own a gun and can use it.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Well I suppose we should allow every individual to possess Arsenic, C4, M60's, and nuclear bomb making materials because after all, it is my freedom to choose what I want to spend my money on.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz Sure. Why not? There are no guarantees in life and no one ever said life was fair. It's funny you should mention that. I'm in the process of putting together almost an hour's worth of footage taken down the street from where I live. I film history yesterday when local, state and federal authorities burned down a bomb factory house. I would've taken footage from the front yard if the authorities weren't such fucking douchebags.
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Okay. I understand. Sure... I agree with ya. Have a nice one... And please take your meds.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@PampersPete Those reg. are meant to improve the quality of life of the gen pub as well as ensure fair competition in bus. (And I know there is a list. I'm just using bits.) Answer my two questions or run when it gets hard.
properbeatz 1 year ago
@properbeatz Pampers and most conservatives have been fooled into thinking that regulating giant corporations somehow tramples on the rights of the average individual. A single payer health care system would NOT TAKE ANY OF OUR RIGHTS AWAY. Not one. It's just a better system which would give us more opportunities and more rights and help the economy as a whole. The executives of the giant companies Pubs represent that don't give a shit about them are laughing all the way to the bank.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 I'm for basic, not over reaching regulation for companies. If something is dangerous for workers or consumers, it shouldn't be legal to do so. Libtards want to tax the "evil" corporations right out of the country and then have the fucking audacity to wonder why they're being laid off. DUH! Rich corporations pay our bills! It's a give/take sort of situation. I agree in a single payer system. If I don't have health insurance, I die! I shouldn't be taxed because I refuse to buy insuranc
PampersPete 1 year ago
@PampersPete Repubutards are the ones who decided it was OK to spy on Americans without warrants (4th amendment) want prayer in schools and public events (first amendment) want to ban EVERYTHING except guns and cigarettes..."Libtards" as you so stupidly call them care more about the constitution than conservatives EVER HAVE. Puibs don't even know what the constitution says they just call anything they don't like "unconstitutional," while they crap all over the actual rights it represents.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 You're response cracks me up. Anytime anyone wants something banned, it's usually a Libtard. I've lived in California for almost 6 years now.I've seen Libtards ban drinking at the beach, try to ban plastic bags, ban smoking at forest reserves where you can light a fire, ban fireworks over the ocean and try to ban open carry of legal guns. These are just off the top of my head.
PampersPete 1 year ago
Repubutards are the ones who fight for the Drug War, want big government to tell us who we can marry , what we can smoke and what a woman can do with her uterus. Pubs are against "choice" at every turn.... except for the "choice" for big corporations to screw us and get away with it. Here's the formula, If it makes big oil, pharma or insurance companies more money it's good and wholesome and American and stands for freedom... if it makes them less money it's bad and makes baby Jesus cry.
sinistar99 1 year ago
@sinistar99 As a true Independent thinker, I'll agree with every word you said.
PampersPete 1 year ago
You are a heartless, full of hate, with no compassion a right wing loon. With out this new law, you or a family member that needs a life saving operation, can now have it because the benefits have no cap, and now a child or a family member with children aren’t penalized for being born with a preexisting condition, people who haven’t had health care for what ever reason now can get treated for what ever they have because they have an opportunity to buy affordable insurance.