Deus Ex HR Missing Link Factory Zero playthrough

[Cryer24597]

I did a playthrough without using any weapons or praxis kits or explosives or alerting anyone all on deus ex difficulty and I didn't get the achievement!

Fuck this achievement.

[fohf]

This is awesome! very useful!~

[Defiantvideo]

Anyone knows what is the password to Quinn's laptop?

[Whitecroc]

Cool, Keitner really does say something different if you don't knock anyone out and then ask her to disarm.

[lilfieryredhead]

Fabulous, ty! Helped out a lot!

[DarkonXBL]

The box trick does work on XBOX as of Feb 2012. I just did it. The trick is to open the little gate 4 or 5 times to get the maximum gap between the big heavy box and the wall. From then it's a matter of positioning the small box and try to push the box inside the man hole BUT without actually holding the box (IE: DO NOT PUSH 'X'). Simply put the small box on the ground and try to push it in with the smaller side facing the man hole.

[cloudparter]

Is it okay to pick up the gun and reload it as long as you don't fire it?

[ZerogunRivale]

To quote Burke, "Most men can't see beyond the choices that are in front of them." But you, sir, very much can. Thanks for all of these strategies, especially that vent after you first get off the boat. These helped me get the Factory Zero trophy last night.

[Gabrielbbfleck]

How do you get to factory zero

[TonyBurrito]

You can pick up praxis kits, weapons etc but you can't use them or kill with them. Also you can punch the guards any time, that doesnt effect the achievement!

[TmakesV]

can this be done on easy difficulty? I did the main game on deus ex and it took it out of me haha. thanks

[ratebbbbb]

Q: Does picking up energy bars and health items makes the Factor Zero achievement locked?

[prenatual]

@ratebbbbb You *can* pick them up and use them.

[ratebbbbb]

I thought I was a bad ass when I played it, you sir are great and I hope that you make more videos like this one

[xjod9]

I played through the game just like this, didn't pick up items, fire guns, throw grenades, I didn't even set off alarms or pick up credits. Also on hardest difficulty. Yet I got no fucking achievement.

[TheNatManRS]

@xjod9 Even weapons or picking up Praxis points will also trigger a no-go.

[xjod9]

@TheNatManRS But I didn't pick up any Praxis kits. I DID accidentially pick up a pistol, because of the stupid "press e twice to pick up all of their shit" thing, but that should count. It says specifically "USE".

[TheNatManRS]

@xjod9 I recall some comments on the Xbox 360 Achievement website saying you can't even so much as pick up a weapon, which may or may not be true, but if you're sure there's no other place you screwed up, that was probably it.

[FuryMuso]

Fair play. It took me 4 hours to do what you've done in less than an hour and half and I missed a trophy until I found this playthough. Which is brilliant btw.

[prenatual]

@FuryMuso Well, my first rehearsal run-through for FZ took me 5 hours and recording the video took another 3. So actually you're twice as fast as me :)

[1996rosh]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! this is the best walkthrough ever. i got all the trophies in one play through, all thanks to you. i loved all the tricks you used.

[PresearingPuppy]

I apparently have to do this for the third time because I got shot a couple times in each try (a typhoon turret & enemy)... haven't fired a single shot, used a grenade or barrel. I pick stuff up (weapons, praxis, consumables, etc.). Next time I wont touch anything that can be used and be a little more careful with my timing.

[FieryPhoenix7]

Thank you very much. I used some of your tricks. The one you used to gain access to Burke's office is very clever. Now I have 59/59 achievements!

[geronim00]

Impressive

[furrysome8]

Excellent play-through! Still couldn't manage some of your crafty tricks lol but, you helped me achieve 100% regardless; thanks :)

[foyez5]

On my first play though i managed to get 8/10 achievments, so i'm gonna play it again to get the last 2.

[davis4ever3]

haha, truly. But what I meant is that, im my playthrough, as soon as you enter that room for the first time, you get SUSPICIOUS status. It doesn't happen for you, although it really doesn't matter, since its a practically meaningless status. For me, on the way up for the first time, and down again, it was all under that status.

I JUST finished my playthrough, and I found your tricks for Burke's office and All of the Above to be invaluable, and very well planned. Great Guide!

[prenatual]

@davis4ever3 I've seen a few bugs like yours: like when a guard spawns behind a wall and can hear you everywhere, thus making radar stuck on "alarmed". In this video at 18:10 "alarmed" appears for no reason when I first enter the room. It quickly returns to normal though.

I think only cameras and turrets can be "suspicious", humans and bots are always either alarmed or hostile. And there are no cameras or turrets in Detention camp -- so it seems you've encountered something weird.

[davis4ever3]

That trick at 26:30 with the box was cool, but the silent jump at 34:20 was just amazing. I just don't understand why he doesn't get the 'Suspicious' tag in that room. It's standard in Give Me Deus Ex difficulty.

[prenatual]

@davis4ever3 It's a physics glitch: the crate breaks before it touches the ground and AI doesn't react to the "breaking" noises -- only to the "contact" sounds. You can, for example, destroy a box with a silenced pistol and no one will hear it.

Same thing happens here, but WHY it breaks in mid-air if you fall+crouch I'm not exactly sure. You have to ask the guy who programmed the physics engine about that :)

[ZeroGFighter]

Oh, I just tried to do the box trick at about 26:30 on the xbox version and I got it to work so i suggest just trying a few times because it did take me a few tries to do it like he did in the video.

[ZeroGFighter]

Anyone else seeing a twitchy effect during the cutscenes? Just wondering is all...

[killjo234]

Man this is the way it should be played. It's so fucking hard though, but to think you're unseen totally throughout the whole base is sweet, professional.

[Unwyze]

This was very helpful. Was doing fine until the detention block second floor. Had to come back again for the solution to the gas attack. Unfortunately I used a handgun to break the large box without even thinking so doing it again (while cleaning up remaining achievements). Pushing it didn't work but throwing three crates at it did (all on the first floor). Nice touch getting Never Forget w/o leg augs too :3

[prenatual]

@Unwyze Glad I could help.

Out of curiosity, what version did you play (PC/Xbox/PS3)? I was told by 3 different people that crate pushing trick doesn't work on consoles and I'm just wondering if it's indeed a PC-exclusive "feature".

[Unwyze]

@prenatual PC for me. I'm not sure, but they could've patched it by now. Either that or I was doing it wrong.

[foyez5]

@prenatual

I just did the crate pushing myself worked fine on the 360. Thanks for show it and also thank you for the video it was an excellent walkthrough.

[robertgeorgepoole]

Great work on the walkthrough. Nice to see an "all trophies" guide - there should be more of these around!

[JoanDalla]

01:10:28  Song Name!!!=?????? PLEASE :(

[hrzns]

I couldn't believe that icarus-box thing worked until i tried it myself haha.

Also, pushing a bigger box with a small one (26:25) doesn't work on xbox.. :(

[prenatual]

@hrzns Weird. I heard the PC version was a straight port from console... guess they changed some things.

Does the big crate move when you open the vent behind it (26:37)? If it does you can try this trick: open/close the vent a few times to create a gap, then place a fire extinguisher between the vent and the box and open-close it again -- it should move a bit further. Repeat with a small box, then a medium box -- after 20-30 tries you should create enough space to fit through.

[hrzns]

@prenatual xbox 360 isn't powerful enough for those kind of physics i guess...

And il give that a try, might have to take down the guards though.

[TheRumWizard]

@prenatual this does work on xbox, just did both of them a few minutes ago, made a save before the "Icarus Box" just in case, did take me a couple tries though

[diaknia]

All I have to say is brilliant! some of the moves past the guards had me with bated breath, what a dance man....

[TheShibbi]

Fantastic Guide, Worked a treat and was top notch that you had the achievement/trophies included.  The bit near the end in the hangar were we had to shuffle with the crate had me lol'n hard, It was like a clip from a bad cartoon with someone hiding under a crate shuffling along unseen by there enemy with the feet sticking out the bottom.......then the guard says confused "Damn...Where are you hiding?" as i trotted past him.

Many thanks for the excellent help.

[JoanDalla]

YES! MADE IT! :D

Thanks for your Tutorial was really helpfull, esp the icarus box and the fire extinguisher :)

made it without taking anything up exept 2 hypotism and 3-4 candys. nothing used only 5 take downs at showdown + 1 takedown midgame to get through burkes office door. voila got the achievment. was really fun but i think i could handle even more then that ;)

now im gonna do it again btw was deus ex mode now i try to grab all kits and be as sneaky as possible and get most xp

[prenatual]

@JoanDalla Thx :) BTW, getting inside Burke's office without anyone noticing (or takedowns) is very easy if you find the code to the vent hatch. I've missed the PDA and had to do things the hard way (hacking the door first, then grabbing the eye later), which is probably not how it was intended by the devs... See this video, for example: youtube.com/watch?v=VeSxpF9WVR­c&feature=player_detailpage#t=­3680s

As for XP maximizing, I'd recommend this: deusex.wikia. com/wiki/Experience_by_area_(D­X3ML)

[JoanDalla]

@prenatual lol true would had been easy that way i think. i even think got all pdas and other books

[JoanDalla]

before i forget....

COMMUNITY HELP ME! I search for the track in deus ex missing link burke u caught via monitor the first time. after that theres 24/7 alarmeted mode and a very impressive i guess its a african female voice who sings something like this? "maja bumaja oja tajaajajaa" . it sounds soooo gooood and connects: hastefull,mystic,harmonic,dang­erous all these things in 1 track .... Now im siting 2 hours a day with my headset on and letting deus ex playing just to hear the track ^^

[prenatual]

@JoanDalla youtube.com/watch?v=nxQx8LcEI3­w

[rideronthestormdrain]

impressive....most impressive,,,,all too easy....empire strikes back reference in case you're too young god i sound like an old fart sometimes. very pocket ninja - watched the whole lot thinking the soundtrack should be Curtis Mayfield - Superfly

[gorilla12d3]

excellent show sir, perfection. this puts many so-called "pros" to shame!

[sirfuzzyman]

Was doing no takedowns a choice or is it required for getting the FZ?

[prenatual]

@sirfuzzyman Yes, it was a personal challenge, partly inspired by Zero Takedown Ghost (youtube.com/user/goliathvt#gr­id/user/FD417A92D36DA2CA). Playing like this is in no way necessary for the FZ -- you can even kill with lethal takedowns and it won't count against it.

[TolHydra]

playthrough observed...achievement unlocked : Daaamn....(watch and learn how a pro plays Deus Ex Human Revolution)

[14GoOdLiFe]

how do you do Gavin Quinn's objective and still manage to do all the rest? I've seen you skipped it ...

Alarming guards to search somewhere is still consider a penalty?

I'm playing this on PC ... I do the stuff unnoticed but still I don't get the achievement thingy on the right down corner ... :S

[prenatual]

@14GoOdLiFe You mean Quinn's Scavenger Hunt for rocket launcher? I skipped it because I didn't need RL nor XP... but if you want you can grab it. See TML's walkthrough on deusex-wikia-com if you need a solution.

As for being undetected: it isn't required for FZ achievement, I've chosen to play this way just as a personal challenge. If you don't get the FZ, then it must be something else.

[Vvash]

You can't even pick up a weapon. If you do and equip it, it counts as being "used" and you won't get this. I accidentally picked up the stun gun in the beginning and finished it and didn't get it. 2nd time through, got it

[goffins]

@Vvash Not true, youcan pick up weapons and even wield them but as long as you do not fire a shot it's fine.

[PrDetective]

amazing!

[ItsDatCajunStuff]

Fire extinguisher...nice touch.

[Skat2090]

Best. Walkthrough. Ever. Thank you very much, sir!

That drop box fall trick was extremely useful. Played the game full for the factory zero achiv but for some peculiar reason didn't get it. Played it again all the way through in 2 hours and got it. Yay.

[osusaym]

Great work ! very impressive.

[666rivera666]

stupid question that prolly already been answered but if i pick up the praxis kits but dont upgrade can i still get the factory zero trophy?

[prenatual]

@666rivera666 Honestly, I don't know and I haven't seen it answered anywhere. Logically, all praxis kit does is add a praxis point. And simply earning praxis points (like by leveling up) without spending them doesn't count against the achievement. So, I guess, praxis kits are treated the same way as weapons: picking them up is fine, using them is not.

[randomnametime]

@prenatual I made the mistake of picking up the Praxis kits and then completing everything else as per the Factory Zero criteria and you do not get the achievement. You have to do it without picking up any Praxis kits while weapons and everything else is fine. Played it through again exactly as before, not picking up the kits and got the achievement fine.

[TheCowLand]

do you know if getting hurt and then regenerating health counts against this achievement?

[prenatual]

@TheCowLand No, it's totally OK. Just don't upgrade the augs and don't use anything from your inventory.

[TheCowLand]

@prenatual great, thanks :)

[blattymeow]

Icarus box.. O_O

[gojira12345678910]

Man, the in-engine cut scenes look fantastic. Why do all the cuts scenes in the full game have to be pre-rendered and look like something you would see in a shitty PS2 game?

[J7M11]

could you please specify what i mustn't use for factory zero? I just finished it without using guns, explosives or praxis and yet it didn't unlock--unless gas grenades count as explosives....I used a few

[prenatual]

@J7M11 Yes, gas grenades count against the FZ. If you have questions, ps3trophies,org has a FAQ on this. Google for "The Missing Link ~ Trophy Guide and Roadmap"

[tetracycloide]

@prenatual Fire extinguishers don't count, since one is used in the video and the achievement still unlocks. So does that mean explosive barrels and gas canisters don't count either?

[prenatual]

@tetracycloide Well, the FZ description says "survived using no Praxis kits, weapons, or explosives". Does "explosives" include explosive barrels? Hell if I know. What I've read others say on this issue is rather contradictory. Just play it safe and do not touch explosives at all — it's not like they are necessary for anything.

[Solidus0508]

Man, what a great guide, you did awesome! As for enemy AI, they are still as dumb as shit, you figure if you really walked up & down halls, & some guy was kneeling at a doorway, like the in the game, you would of seen Jensen a mile away. the crate thing, yeah, an enemy should be like, "how did those move?" and at least checked around it, forcing you to have to take him out. it's realistic enough to be cool to play and dumb enough so you CAN play. guess we can never have it both ways.

[KasiH1985]

really good guide u do stuff with awesome skills . too bad I didn't get the Factory zero trophy . I didn't use any praxis or weapons or explosive , but I took them and carried them ( but did not use any of them ) .

I don't know maybe u should not even take them or carry them .

[prenatual]

@KasiH1985 From what I've read on forums it's the explosives that spoil the FZ: even if you simply pick up the wall mine it auto-equips and this counts as 'using'. Exploding barrels and gas canisters seems to work against FZ too.

[KasiH1985]

@prenatual dammit I didn't have fun with augment because I wanted to get this trophy -__- , now I have to start it again :'(

[JanusKay]

I'm Sorry. But what is difficulty level? I mean that enemy is very blindy for hard difficulty.

[pocketboy7]

@JanusKay it says in the discription that its on Give me deus ex difficulty. Ie the hardest

[MRWWAYSS]

Are the enemy placements randomized each time you play or is it set?

[prenatual]

@MRWWAYSS Placement is completely different and enemies are in a "permanent alert" state if you've triggered an alarm or was seen on a ship. If not, then it's the same as in this video.

[Antipodian]

Very nice. Sadly, the box push trick at 26:40 doesn't work on PC anymore, but you can still throw crates at the tall box to smash it.

[prenatual]

@Antipodian I did this playthrough on v1.0.62.9 and TML wasn't updated since then, so there is no reason it shouldn't work. I've rechecked it and I can move big crates both with wooden and cardboard boxes just fine.

[Antipodian]

@prenatual Strange, I tried it an hour ago (right when I posted that) and it wouldn't let me. I already had the achievement, so no big loss, but still.

It didn't let me do the "crate shuffle" at 1:07:45 either. I was able to take 2 crates and swap them repeatedly to cross, though. I was amused that the heavy guard there never seemed to notice the crates slowly working their way across the room. :)

[prenatual]

@Antipodian Strange indeed. It shouldn't be like that since objects' behavior is hard-coded in the game's physics system. All crate tricks from this video have worked in vanilla version since leaked beta.

[calicchio77]

If I assemble the Quinn's rocket launcher, will I miss the Factory Zero achievement???

[prenatual]

@calicchio77 You'll be OK as long as you don't fire it. Same for other weapons and mines.

[kuraistarkiller]

Thank you, very tricky, amazing and very useful and elaborated guide :)

[enzokj01]

This is insanely brilliant. You actually make this game look like it's meant to be a Metal Gear Solid game.

+1 Internets.

[TheOgley]

Using that crate to jump silently was a work of genius.

[JoeDaImmoral]

Teach me to be a ninja!? I want to learn all your Ancient Chinese Secrets!

:)

[MrMcfidget]

Baffled is I

[vincent27038988]

All the box tricks are amazing :)

[FadingIntimacy]

I have really problems at 1:06:42

Tried this couple of times from all positon, but when i jump - the bomb explodes... I'm getting crazy with this corner. Any idea?

[prenatual]

@FadingIntimacy By 'bomb' you mean the frag mines? You'll need to CROUCH+WALK at the same time to pass near them. On PC walk is on ctrl by default.

[FadingIntimacy]

@prenatual

thxs, yes i meant the frag mines ;-), I have found another way and thxs for the guide, who gave me 70 GS on xbox 360 *thumbs up

[UnitedTaskF0rce]

Thank you so much! This is a really great guide! Stuck with it and I got all the trophies that you listed in your comment box. Hope you make more videos. Also subscribed to you and rated 5stars. Least I can do for helping me out on the game.

[rapolfo]

how do I get into quinns room ?

[MrMoo7]

Ok so I literally I did not fire a single shot, used a single kit or anything. I still did not get it. Do explosive barrels count? That's the only instance in which I've used "a weapon".

I've punched like every single guard in the face too, but it didn't say anything against that. Pretty sure using healing items doesn't count either. If anyone can confirm...

[lighnort]

omg you are awesome at this I had to use alot of cloak and silly loads even using it. you never cloaked.

[mr198221]

Thanks for the 'all of the above' stuff. i figured there was a way, but didn't know. How did you find out?

[prenatual]

@mr198221 Experiments+Determination+F5/F­8 :) Moving a heavy crate with smaller crate and breaking glass tubes by throwing stuff at then worked in vanilla game too, so there is nothing new here.

[mr198221]

@prenatual That's true, but you're still a genius!

[paulknoxville]

Firstly, thanks for uploading this, a great video. I noticed you didnt visit Netanya Keitner`s contact. The weapons dealer in a lower deck. I`m trying to find the last piece of the rocket launcher for the external mission but can`t find it! Any suggestions? Have you completed this part? Thanks 8)

[paulknoxville]

@Marg11 Hey, that does help, it was the part at 0:17:50 which I missed. Thanks alot for your help, appreciate it. Again, great video and good luck with the achievements! 8)

[Marg11]

@paulknoxville No problem, dunno where my comment went, lol!

[paulknoxville]

@Marg11 lol Was wondering the same thing!

[prenatual]

@paulknoxville I intended not to pick up any weapons so I didn't bother with Quinn's rocket launcher. Google it, it's the 2nd result.

[paulknoxville]

@prenatual Thanks for that. a real help. Hope to see more videos soon! ;)