To be honest I don't think freightliner could care less about whether we like how they look or not. At the end of the day there not there to "look good" there to "Haul Freight Quickly And Efficiently". If they are doing a better job than the 66's of course they're here to stay. Atleast until something better comes along.
wtf class 70 load of shit wheres the class 57 freightliner or 66 not the 70 typical american desgin better use as scrap a cross between a class 20 and a 58 both kinda of useless
Just remember. GE of America were given the specs and this what FreightLiner asked for. They will never run in the USA, they are to under powered and small for our needs. The only thing we could us them for are and small branch lines, but for long haul pulls. They would burn out.
@Mrg610 3,700hp is more powerful than a good chunk of Union Pacific's fleet. The reason these locos wouldn't be much use in the US is that they're not heavy enough, which means that they can't put that power to the rails to shift a long train. For example, they have 700hp more than an SD-40 but are 80,000lb lighter. (And, as mathuetax points out, they'd need a lot of refitting.)
i hate the 70s they are ugly pices of shity yuck yuck just absalutely horible in about a year they will probably get chucked out of this cutry and go to america or sonthing
Going back to the US is unlikely, the engines are spec'd for Freightliner Group. While the track gauge is the same they would require quite a bit of retrofitting to comply with US regs. While the Jenbacher Type6 prime mover seems to be solid, I'm not ware that any railroad in the US has one. With a ready supply of already compliant engines in the US a reverse move isn't going to happen.
An interesting piece of film. Sad however that the British are no longer capable of building locomotives themselves. The land of Stephenson, Ivatt, Gresley and Stanier! Does that worry any of you?
@HSTHoward I have my opinion and you have yours and both are valid! you like it, i dont! and i'm free to express my opinion on here just as you are but dont tell me to shut up!!!!!!!!!!!
Last I heard, Freightliner has cancelled their order for a further 30+ Class 70's because they have had nothing but problems with them from the word go. 70001 and 70004 have been sat inour yard for weeks awaiting modifications.
I don't mind the design tbh. The body shape isn't all that bad - reminds me slightly (and yeah, I am clutching at straws here...) of the class 58s and that can only be a good thing. Mon the Plugs!
crap i remember when freightliner had decent traction ,duffs and tractorsand evan 57s they will never last 30+ years like the legend that is the class 37 nuff said
At first in no livery, i thought they were awful, but they look alright in freightliner and they will grow as they work, they are an alternative to the 66s and basically they are an upgraded 58.
every loco in the uk is just a box with 2 cabs and an engine. siemens cannot build british coz theyre not british. a class 60 cost a million more than a 66 & thats why we just won`t make any more...get over it...
I have seen 2 other vids of Class 70s. One on the North London Line on container train and the other on coal hopper empties. Anyone got a vid of a Betty (as in Ugly Betty) on a loaded heavy train?
Its bloody hideous, but it sounds like a loco as opposed to a shed, which sounds like a sound effect from Doctor Who....eek eek eek eek eek. Mind you, so long as they are quiet in the cab, ride well and are cool in the summer I dont care what they look like!
Each to his own viewpoint, I think they look quite sleek in the flesh ! Think of a Class 58 with Class 67 cab ends.... the rear facing window in the cab (similar to a Class 20) also affords the driver a rear view of his train, handy when making shunt moves etc.
People may say they are ugly but at the end of the day they look modern and that is exactly what the rail industry is after. People said the same about the class 58 simply as it was going to takeover many class 56 diagrammes. Everything changes and in 10-20 years it will possibly be freight multiple units taking most of the freight around our network so make the most of it !!
Thank's very much. It was as dark as ditchwater down there despite appearances. Even shooting at ISO800 the images are slightly blurred (you can hear the slow camera shutter speed clicking away) !
fantastic video again, and also stills. i have lived on the sutton park line for years. never get to see the special locos through. wud u have any advice where i can find what locos and when there running please.
Many thanks. I suppose for a "quick fix" of rare moves you could subscribe to one of the Railgen sites. Or otherwise stay lineside for a few hours getting to know the regular freight patterns, and maybe something half-decent will turn up (my usual method) !
People have commented on the slightly odd-ball looks, which will probably become an aquired taste, but if the loco is safer and more comfortable for those driving it then that has to be a massive positive.
Any ideas when they will start earning their keep?
Thanks, I wondered how you did this one. Many years ago, me and my brother were trying to get photos of passing trains through a gate down the side of a road bridge near Eastleigh and a passing rail employee stopped his van and started shouting at us, he thought we were trying to break through the gate and get on the track which we weren't.
Excellent multi tasking there mate, you did well. You could do with being an octopus. Nice machine. You are a jammie beast! Who was the watcher in the woods?
Ah yes... he asked what was due, I told him a brand new loco. "Has it got a name ?" he asked... no, I said, and with that he walked off....only to come running back when the loco appeared from around the corner !!
LOL i love these because they sound good and clag, 70001 FAILED dead batteries and 70002 FAILED waiting new parts! nice one freightliner and GE 5* favs
I love the shape, i's curvy stylish, a 66 is just "big box, long box, big box" sort of a shape. this hs a flowing front. Still not as good as a class 60 though.
Wwicked vid, it may well be as I grew up with the class 66 but I do still prefer 66s to 70. They look so odd and nothing like any other. Atleat 66s look like 59s thats some other loco
31s look good with a bit of the cab windscreen raised up in the middle and 56 look simmular but not the same as 47s. Or should I say are nearist to 47s. Have a look on google if you like, or I have some class 31s on my channel =D
try sitting on em for 8 hours...... and as for design...i worked on 56s and whoever designed them should have been strapped in one the seats with a vibe up his ass to assimilate one with the engine running for 12 hours and his next design might have been better...
56s sound better, look better, control better, and you dont have to lean over to grab the controls, and tbh, its my opinion what i think of them, so theres no point trying to change my mind!!!
would not wish to change anyones opinion, mine is that a class 37 sounds like it is 3000 hp more than it really is but any new loco regardless of where it is built , will have to comply with new noise and emission levels. 56s were the worst riding loco ever with the 31s a very close second.
I think the trackwork undulation is a result of compression due to it being a telephoto shot equilvilent to 360mm in film terms, which is a hefty magnification....
Any apparent faults are due to my lens and not the rails.
The track here was relaid fairly recently (within the past few years), its certainly not in bad shape. Its dead straight at this location for a couple of miles. Depending on the time of day the light can play tricks on how it appears, go there on a hot day in summer and stand on the crossing looking down the line and you'll see all sorts of weird distortions and heat hazes, you don't need a telephoto lense to see it!
I actually like the 70's, they're really cool, completely different from anything we've had before!
mixmam1 2 months ago
To be honest I don't think freightliner could care less about whether we like how they look or not. At the end of the day there not there to "look good" there to "Haul Freight Quickly And Efficiently". If they are doing a better job than the 66's of course they're here to stay. Atleast until something better comes along.
AshHill07 2 months ago
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TheFruitbat123 2 months ago
they look great,better then a class 37! ONLY JOKING THERE FULL OF HORSE SHIT!
mongoosekid14 3 months ago
Bloody rubbish!
p5aul789 5 months ago
@WirralCarper What, the 1940s ? !!
DownGrand1967 5 months ago
douse any one know where there going to be run, any where near Nottingham?
ShaurntheSheep 6 months ago
i prefer the look of the class 66 myself
casement18 7 months ago
The Edsell of the train world!
Tastytentacle 10 months ago
wtf class 70 load of shit wheres the class 57 freightliner or 66 not the 70 typical american desgin better use as scrap a cross between a class 20 and a 58 both kinda of useless
gingerviking91 11 months ago
I like them but next to a 66 who would want them?
ejcmoorhouse 1 year ago
Nice horn at 0:58! :-D
beeble2003 1 year ago
Who designed these monstrosities, David Blunkett?
fouloleron2002 1 year ago
first the 66s then the 67s and now the 70s, it just gets worse! Bring back the 56s!!!
PlattHillLover 1 year ago
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well i think there cute
Natbilltv 1 year ago
Just remember. GE of America were given the specs and this what FreightLiner asked for. They will never run in the USA, they are to under powered and small for our needs. The only thing we could us them for are and small branch lines, but for long haul pulls. They would burn out.
Mrg610 1 year ago
@Mrg610 3,700hp is more powerful than a good chunk of Union Pacific's fleet. The reason these locos wouldn't be much use in the US is that they're not heavy enough, which means that they can't put that power to the rails to shift a long train. For example, they have 700hp more than an SD-40 but are 80,000lb lighter. (And, as mathuetax points out, they'd need a lot of refitting.)
beeble2003 1 year ago
Good video...
of the worst looking thing ever.
GE build Genisis for Amtrak and we get this!
lol ?
:-(
baruze 1 year ago
Class 66 ftw
minotaur878 1 year ago
i hate the 70s they are ugly pices of shity yuck yuck just absalutely horible in about a year they will probably get chucked out of this cutry and go to america or sonthing
shaun508124 1 year ago
@shaun508124 ...just have to get used to 'em I guess, the next 6 will soon be on the way.
DownGrand1967 1 year ago 2
@DownGrand1967 The next five just left the builder's plant in Erie on a ship yesterday bound for Newport.
cwazymbfan 1 year ago
@shaun508124 Hmm, maybe you will follow them heading for a English and spelling lesson ..........
panzercat 1 year ago
@shaun508124
Going back to the US is unlikely, the engines are spec'd for Freightliner Group. While the track gauge is the same they would require quite a bit of retrofitting to comply with US regs. While the Jenbacher Type6 prime mover seems to be solid, I'm not ware that any railroad in the US has one. With a ready supply of already compliant engines in the US a reverse move isn't going to happen.
mathuetax 1 year ago
@shaun508124 oh and your not?
oh and 14002 people have watch this and liked it so your comment dosnt really matter
Destruktoid24 11 months ago
...And I have to agree with crompton 33001.
flippop101 1 year ago
An interesting piece of film. Sad however that the British are no longer capable of building locomotives themselves. The land of Stephenson, Ivatt, Gresley and Stanier! Does that worry any of you?
Regards, flippop101, Germany
flippop101 1 year ago
pile of yankee SHIT
claypiesexygod 1 year ago
Great Video, 5 Stars!
60103Henry 1 year ago
seems very american in looks ;)
DasterlyDirk 1 year ago
seems very american in looks ;)
DasterlyDirk 1 year ago
seems very american in looks ;)
DasterlyDirk 1 year ago
seems very american in looks ;)
DasterlyDirk 1 year ago
Love the clag at 3:43
TheRoloCasanova 1 year ago
And the award for ugliest loco on UK tracks goes to...
it's a 58 on steroids or hollywoods idea of a 58 in a transformers movie!
and why class 70? why not 68 or 69? why use something that was used before?
Good video though downgrand1967 :)
marvinthemartian666 1 year ago 2
@marvinthemartian666 shut up about looks. its boring now. its a great loco and be quiet!
HSTHoward 1 year ago
@HSTHoward I have my opinion and you have yours and both are valid! you like it, i dont! and i'm free to express my opinion on here just as you are but dont tell me to shut up!!!!!!!!!!!
marvinthemartian666 1 year ago
A grotesque piece of foreign shit. I always thought classes 70-79 were reserved for DC Electric & ED loco's :(
crompton33001 2 years ago
give me a 37 anyday
laservader1 2 years ago 8
Last I heard, Freightliner has cancelled their order for a further 30+ Class 70's because they have had nothing but problems with them from the word go. 70001 and 70004 have been sat inour yard for weeks awaiting modifications.
PezDaMan 2 years ago
I don't mind the design tbh. The body shape isn't all that bad - reminds me slightly (and yeah, I am clutching at straws here...) of the class 58s and that can only be a good thing. Mon the Plugs!
GoldenRatio 2 years ago 7
AARRRRGH!!! Help! I wanna gouge out my eyes with a spoon!!!
For sure something this ugly could only be the product of American designers?
I wonder if the RMT will be negotiating for occupational health compensation for eyesight damage for crews having to work with these monstrosities?
madmax200769 2 years ago
MUG
bennettae 2 years ago
crap i remember when freightliner had decent traction ,duffs and tractorsand evan 57s they will never last 30+ years like the legend that is the class 37 nuff said
nigehass 2 years ago
more like 50 years my friend :) Class 66's and 70's around in the 2050's I don't think so
crompton33001 2 years ago
At first in no livery, i thought they were awful, but they look alright in freightliner and they will grow as they work, they are an alternative to the 66s and basically they are an upgraded 58.
preston4eva12 2 years ago 3
@PrentonPimp
Can you refute my statement, Mr PrentonPimp? I'm curious about it.
sucknals 2 years ago
@emperorgrant
What do you want with me? British Railroad have a bad record all over the world. whether you like it or not.
sucknals 2 years ago
there not rail roads there railways besides foreign crap is boring give me a class43 anyday
GWRtom 2 years ago
GWRtom, You need to learn to spell so that we may understand what you are trying to convey.
tr1ger58 2 years ago
as for refurbing old locos, class 57s from the old 47s... a lot of dosh for very little loco with a life span of a b.r. butty...
eugenefdonnelly 2 years ago
every loco in the uk is just a box with 2 cabs and an engine. siemens cannot build british coz theyre not british. a class 60 cost a million more than a 66 & thats why we just won`t make any more...get over it...
eugenefdonnelly 2 years ago 2
dont know why we cant go back to building our own trains instead of importing
Jimmy87nottingham 2 years ago 2
couldn't agree more, but at least they have two-tone horns, as opposed to the American style 'groan' horns.
Welwyn22 2 years ago
cant afford to make decent ones anymore.
emperorgrant 2 years ago
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Sad, but true....
PrentonPimp 2 years ago
I have seen 2 other vids of Class 70s. One on the North London Line on container train and the other on coal hopper empties. Anyone got a vid of a Betty (as in Ugly Betty) on a loaded heavy train?
trackrat5367 2 years ago
Good video. Its got a very american look about it. Although not the 1st uk loco to look how it does think of the 58's. Sounds better than a 66 mind!!
pastyman32 2 years ago 2
Impressive! Project Genesis has payed off and I like the noise of the engine! :)
bordercollies10 2 years ago
not sure about its looks, i cant wait to see what it can do, was suprised to see it clag in one of the clips. thanks for posting. 5*
pinza55007 2 years ago 3
It' s peculiar for me, that Britain have no own Railroad Industry. They sold a lot of British companys to foreign countries.
Also EWS at last. Railroad cars and equipment must be imported.
Why sold Britain his industry to foreign countrys? The industrialisation starts up in Britain.
Noch2Bier 2 years ago
You're right there Noch.
Unfortunately, the political types of the UK couldn't give a stuff about UK industry, because they are far too busy lining their own pockets.
I heard that Siemens wanted to build a factory in the UK when they won orders to build UK trains, but the government just weren't interested.
This Country Is Fucked.
The86416 2 years ago
what a knob attitude from the frog....
markisaleedsfan 2 years ago
Get some wind-proofing!
Good apart from that!
D335Media 2 years ago
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It's so ugly like Britsh People
terrarexus 2 years ago
bog off frenchie
quattromatt 2 years ago
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terrarexus 2 years ago
Are you bored? Yes, you are, find some mates/enemies in the real world
brchtr002 2 years ago
Terrarexus, the retard know all, and gods gift to all women ( well those that are desperate and blind )
nobbynorton 2 years ago
terrarexus - I notice you have 'Heil Hitler' on your page (I right-clicked and dragged) - that just about sums you up. I pity you.
PrentonPimp 2 years ago
terrarexus - thanks for the death threats. You are pathetic.
PrentonPimp 2 years ago
Looks like a refurbished class 58
7676yhn 2 years ago 3
...and hopefully will sound as good when under load...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
When I heard one on that video of one hauling freight at night they sound crap under load.
Traction motors screaming but no engine noise - like an EMU.
They actually sound better light engine from what I have seen of them so far.
grannyjone 2 years ago
@DownGrand1967
They have the same power output at the engine, same CO-CO arrangment.
Roughly the same 'BONE' design, but they have a lower top speed.
Makes you wonder if it was worth scrapping / selling the 58's
vectorm1299 1 year ago
Looks like LDV brought a new buffered diesel on the market
brchtr002 2 years ago 3
very good quality vid btw! 5*
brchtr002 2 years ago
MODERN DAY 58 / KESTREL ?
LOOKS QUITE A NICE MACHINE BUT IT WILL NEVER BEAT THE "SULZER BEASTIES" 47s ha ha
SULZERBEASTIE 2 years ago 2
Ah Kestrel, now she was a real beastie !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
woow awsome . clagging already hehe preds rule
DelticMattV2000 2 years ago
Interesting.
Well, people said the Class 67 was ugly at first...
well, they still do ....
AndreiTupolev 2 years ago
Beauties
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
look at this worst tracks at the beginning- unbelievable
and why have British Rail no electro locomotives and only these uneconomic Diesel Engines?
Do you have your own oilfields?
sucknals 2 years ago
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slendersausage 2 years ago
Shocking isn't it. Damn "British Rail" and their wonky rails...
The line was due to be electrified a year ago but "British Rail" couldn't find anywhere to plug it in.
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Its bloody hideous, but it sounds like a loco as opposed to a shed, which sounds like a sound effect from Doctor Who....eek eek eek eek eek. Mind you, so long as they are quiet in the cab, ride well and are cool in the summer I dont care what they look like!
SLUG5not 2 years ago
Each to his own viewpoint, I think they look quite sleek in the flesh ! Think of a Class 58 with Class 67 cab ends.... the rear facing window in the cab (similar to a Class 20) also affords the driver a rear view of his train, handy when making shunt moves etc.
Thanks for taking the time to comment !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
@SLUG5not When I've ran US GEVO locomotives, there is nothing quieter. There is absolutely nothing quieter than a GE.
BNSF5608 2 years ago
People may say they are ugly but at the end of the day they look modern and that is exactly what the rail industry is after. People said the same about the class 58 simply as it was going to takeover many class 56 diagrammes. Everything changes and in 10-20 years it will possibly be freight multiple units taking most of the freight around our network so make the most of it !!
slendersausage 2 years ago 2
Good point, and I don't think it's too bad looking a locomotive...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
I hated the Class 60's originally, and now I'd kill to see 30 per day instead of Freds. These'll grow on us.
PrentonPimp 2 years ago 2
Nice catch!
I think it looks ok. Can't wait until I can catch her myself!
iamthestig789 2 years ago
Thanks. I saw her again today and have just uploaded more footage...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Please see website link under my profile for more (similar) photo's...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Strange thing. Sounds better than a Shed though. And it clags a little .
mukkaspec 2 years ago
Thank you for the chance to see this new loco and for the stills at the start which gives a longer look than video at speed!
ADMIRALSCORNER 2 years ago 2
Thank's very much. It was as dark as ditchwater down there despite appearances. Even shooting at ISO800 the images are slightly blurred (you can hear the slow camera shutter speed clicking away) !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
fantastic video again, and also stills. i have lived on the sutton park line for years. never get to see the special locos through. wud u have any advice where i can find what locos and when there running please.
kevannash 2 years ago 2
Many thanks. I suppose for a "quick fix" of rare moves you could subscribe to one of the Railgen sites. Or otherwise stay lineside for a few hours getting to know the regular freight patterns, and maybe something half-decent will turn up (my usual method) !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Great vid and stills! Nice to see it at a bit of speed. Looking forward to them visiting the south!
SWT442 2 years ago 2
Nice vid, cracking stills, thanks very much.
People have commented on the slightly odd-ball looks, which will probably become an aquired taste, but if the loco is safer and more comfortable for those driving it then that has to be a massive positive.
Any ideas when they will start earning their keep?
Northstander 2 years ago 2
Thanks very much. I would think they will be working trains within a couple of weeks or so, once the driver familiarisation has taken place...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
They look like a "Dalek" ! Hope they sound better thrashing out of Peak Forrest. Nice vid buddy
jaboose 2 years ago
Should do, will they work that area though ?
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Certainly a different noise to the one we're all used to.
Cheers,
Marcus
GEGen Yahoo Group - The Yahoo group for the class 70.
railnet 2 years ago 2
Many thanks Marcus, much better than any "yinging" 66 !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
I dont think its ugly. its an awesome Locomotive
pwalpar 2 years ago
Sure is a good one !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Nice loco, similar to a class 58. How do you get to film on the trackside without getting in trouble?
MrBooojangles 2 years ago 2
Filmed from a foot crossing within Sutton Park, a public right of way...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Thanks, I wondered how you did this one. Many years ago, me and my brother were trying to get photos of passing trains through a gate down the side of a road bridge near Eastleigh and a passing rail employee stopped his van and started shouting at us, he thought we were trying to break through the gate and get on the track which we weren't.
MrBooojangles 2 years ago
I think we've all been there, the trials and tribulations of a rail photographer !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Yes, LOL.
MrBooojangles 2 years ago
Hey,i like this loco,are they made in Canada? It is about time we had a new kid on the block LOL.
johnwood57 2 years ago
I believe so John, thanks for the comment...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
No Problem glad to ablige
johnwood57 2 years ago
They are manufactured in Erie, Pennsylvania, USA.
ECML119 2 years ago 3
Excellent multi tasking there mate, you did well. You could do with being an octopus. Nice machine. You are a jammie beast! Who was the watcher in the woods?
jammiebeasts 2 years ago
Ah yes... he asked what was due, I told him a brand new loco. "Has it got a name ?" he asked... no, I said, and with that he walked off....only to come running back when the loco appeared from around the corner !!
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Awesome Video!
I think they are brilliant! Good to see a nice bit of new traction around, will now rival the 66 i guess, when they bring more of them to the UK.
They look like 58's, and (I think) they sound like 60s! What more would you want? lol.
5* and faved! :)
1993andy2007 2 years ago
Thanks Andy, and great comments too.
I like 'em !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
cool video, it sounds great!
scottm16 2 years ago
I thought so too, like to hear one straining at the leash at the head of a heavy train...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
excellent video!
i got thold they were down by me.
5* video, +favourite
great catch.
Keegz2k7 2 years ago
Many thanks.
The design lines of the loco seem to flow nicely, but head-on from a distance they look all yellow, like a tamper !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Excellent video, and thanks for allowing us to see this historic event...5* Bob
robmasterman 2 years ago
Many thanks Rob, i'm just lucky enough to live along this route I guess.
Incidentally the Blue Pullman sets were "road tested" along this line in 1959, now that I would have liked to have filmed !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Good video compilation and some excellent shots! 5* Looks too "North American" for my European tastes BUT it could sound quite tasty with a big load!
NN2Blue 2 years ago
Thats right, just waiting for a decent sized train behind it !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Good stuff.
RustonDave 2 years ago
Thanks Dave.
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Looks like a misshaped 58 to me, How horrible, still it will make a change to boring 66s, Good vid mate
oggy1953 2 years ago
Agreed !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
IT Has defiately got a meaty roar to it
BRU11ROAD 2 years ago
Be nice to see it haul a train !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Well done on the first UK daytime footage! Ugly looking thing but it certainly sounds a lot better than a Shed!!
sie50 2 years ago
Good comment, thanks !
I think it looks better "in the flesh"...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
LOL i love these because they sound good and clag, 70001 FAILED dead batteries and 70002 FAILED waiting new parts! nice one freightliner and GE 5* favs
HSTHoward 2 years ago
Cheers Howard, batteries no big deal but you'ld expect a new battery to hold it''s charge !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
well i can say that 70002 is fooked! to put it correctly! cheers for the video
HSTHoward 2 years ago
I'm told that 001 is going to be named this weekend....
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
how?
Keegz2k7 2 years ago
Not sure what the name will be, but the rumour was that it will be named very soon !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
thanks :)
Keegz2k7 2 years ago
I love the shape, i's curvy stylish, a 66 is just "big box, long box, big box" sort of a shape. this hs a flowing front. Still not as good as a class 60 though.
jamiegoddard4 2 years ago
Indeed !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
top class catch mate!! added to favs!
scottishrailways 2 years ago
Thanks !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Awesome video 5*****
dutchtrainmanserie22 2 years ago
Greetings Holland !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
great video mate its hellfire 5stars and fav
AvonRailFan 2 years ago
Thanks very much...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
nice one ! 5*s and a fav ,,they sound really USA style loco ..great shots m8 top stuff
XxBec3509 2 years ago
Thanks mate, great stuff...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
I bloody love em, long live the 70's i recon
EWS60500 2 years ago
Agreed !!
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Wwicked vid, it may well be as I grew up with the class 66 but I do still prefer 66s to 70. They look so odd and nothing like any other. Atleat 66s look like 59s thats some other loco
Clacatoo 2 years ago
Great stuff, thanks a lot, cheers.
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
what do class 31s look like?
what do class 56s look like?
i grew up with 66s but i still prefer the stuff built between 1930 & 1970
NSMerryweather4771 2 years ago
31s look good with a bit of the cab windscreen raised up in the middle and 56 look simmular but not the same as 47s. Or should I say are nearist to 47s. Have a look on google if you like, or I have some class 31s on my channel =D
Clacatoo 2 years ago
There we go, you like Class 31s although they have no look-alike. yet why dont you like the class 70?
i think it looks a little like a class 58
NSMerryweather4771 2 years ago
great pics 5*
NXEA90001 2 years ago
Cheers...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
nice footage and pictures
CARLOS62B 2 years ago
Thank you, much appreciated.
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Not bad actually... they dont look that bad, but I still prefer the 66s! Have they failed yet? ;) 5*
merseyrail508124 2 years ago
I honestly prefer the design to the 66s, sorry !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
...even if they do resemble Class 58s with Class 67 cabs..... !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Brilliant but i agree with mststv, its a crap loco, theres nothing interesting about them, apart from them being "new" 5*
crazymanlargemarge 2 years ago
Fair comment, you're not alone !
Cheers...
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
try sitting on em for 8 hours...... and as for design...i worked on 56s and whoever designed them should have been strapped in one the seats with a vibe up his ass to assimilate one with the engine running for 12 hours and his next design might have been better...
eugenefdonnelly 2 years ago
56s sound better, look better, control better, and you dont have to lean over to grab the controls, and tbh, its my opinion what i think of them, so theres no point trying to change my mind!!!
crazymanlargemarge 2 years ago
would not wish to change anyones opinion, mine is that a class 37 sounds like it is 3000 hp more than it really is but any new loco regardless of where it is built , will have to comply with new noise and emission levels. 56s were the worst riding loco ever with the 31s a very close second.
eugenefdonnelly 2 years ago
in that 1st shot you can see how bloody shoddy the trackwork is.
i like theClass 70. better than a 66
NSMerryweather4771 2 years ago
I think the trackwork undulation is a result of compression due to it being a telephoto shot equilvilent to 360mm in film terms, which is a hefty magnification....
Any apparent faults are due to my lens and not the rails.
Full marks for spotting that though !
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
@NSMerryweather4771
The track here was relaid fairly recently (within the past few years), its certainly not in bad shape. Its dead straight at this location for a couple of miles. Depending on the time of day the light can play tricks on how it appears, go there on a hot day in summer and stand on the crossing looking down the line and you'll see all sorts of weird distortions and heat hazes, you don't need a telephoto lense to see it!
ZunnanDeclawed 2 years ago 4
Still dont like them though...
mststv 2 years ago
I think I must be the only one who does !!
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
I like them, I'm impressed by them from what I've seen in videos so far.
tynerider 2 years ago
Thanks, so do I....
DownGrand1967 2 years ago
Fantastic! Great to see one under its own power on the British Mainline at Last! nice bit of clag as well on your first pic!
Stirlingshire43110 2 years ago