Jane Fonda, Danny Glover, Naomi Klein, John Greyson and the likes, these people really dont have a clue, do they.. ? it is no loss to anyone but themselves.. Good .. we dont need their slop anyway and they are no moral giants, in any form...
Brilliant as usual. also, This week the United Nations voted to remove a reference to sexual orientation from its resolution against extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions.among those that voted against was Israel. so to all of you gay people who are so concerned about the Palestinians rights ( you know, the people who voted for Hamas that calls for the destruction of Israel and Jews all over the world ) - when you go to sleep with dogs don't be surprised to wake up with fleas.
What is it that you don't get about Israel and its persecution of the Palistinian people? I don't hate anyone but I do despise the inability of the American government to act in a balanced manner on the issue. Dennis Prager has no interest in even questioning the current situation. It's easier to malign anyone in the "radical left" which is more a figment of the Christian Right.
@exocet2000 Israel took in 600,000 Jews thrown out of Muslims countries. OTOH, the Arab world shunned the 800,000 Palestinians who chose to leave Israel before it was attacked, people Israel asked not to leave. This was a deliberate strategy so they could blame Israel for the refugee problem. Their leaders have rejected a Palestinian state multiple times, because very simply, that's not their objective. It only takes one side to prevent peace, and that's the Arab side.
ok...so because Israelis are less homophobic than Palestinians, then this man should abandon his morals and lower his self to the standards of the aforementioned discriminatory parties?
Moreover, are you saying that because Israelis are less homophobic, that they are justified in their illegal occupation and punishment of the Palestinian people? Thats sound logic you've got there Prager! You ugly bastard!
Neither. The gay pride parade in Jerusalem has been repeatedly attacked by ultra-orthodox radicals, and the ironic part of it is that the Palistinian imams supported the rabbis in this one case.
If one thing brings religious lunatics together it's hatred of gays.
Prager makes a good point. The moron would most likely be celebrated if he showed it in Tel Aviv. If he showed it in the West Bank, he'd be stoned to death.
1. Lots of countries have films at TIFF...that's why it's called the Toronto "International" Film Festival. At issue is the special celebration and special attention to the films from Tel Aviv.
2. The world does not see Israel as peace-loving.... period. Just because you say that does not make it so. The world sees Israel as an apartheid country.
3. Israel chooses to diminish Palestinians slowly over decades.
4. Israel's illegal actions not only irk, but incited 9/11 and other acts.
what about the sucide bomber that attack innocent people in isarel. the paestinian people are diminishing themselves by electing hamas as leaders of their country.
Do you see that comparing their most quilty with your most innocent is a manipulation of emotion? Can we also compare your most quilty with their most innocent? Now compare the average of each and you will see who is the dominated by whom.
The Chinese can kill 1 million innocent Tibetans (10% of their population), and that will in NO WAY instigate WW3. When Jews on the other hand kill 30,000 Palestinians over 60 years (less than 0.1% of their population), when there has been abundant violence against Israel, that IS going to instigate WW3.
The topic at hand is the TIFF. It's just a small way of branding Israel as a normal peace loving all-things-western-and-great-country. But it isn't. Israel is smack dab in the center of a bunch of Arab muslim countries and run by a bunch of Zionists that want all the Palestinians OUT or dominated at the very least. Apartheid, jewish style. This irks Arabs, especially militant Arabs. American support irked militants enough to do 9/11. That brings in the WWIII threat. Let Israel fight alone.
1. I brought up China because they also had lots of films at TIFF, which you didn't complain about.
2. Israel is peace-loving but surrounded by war-mongering racists.
3. If Israel wanted "all the Palestinians OUT", they would have eradicated them decades ago.
4. Lots of things "irk" Muslims, including cartoons/movies they dislike and girls going to school in Afghanistan. If you think that Arabs getting upset about something is evidence that that thing is wrong, then you're very morally confused.
1. People saw what Israel did. Nothing to do with definitions. We saw the helicopters dumping the phosphorous.
2.Jews are liberal domestically but pro-Israel too, no matter what Israel does. Vast majority of Jews are pro-Israel in all ways. Jews that are not are discounted as self-hating.
3. The TIFF has a platform that celebrates and highlights just Tel Aviv films. A poor choice done for political reasons only. A whitewash.
1. Israel was targeting terrorists. They do more than any military in the history of the world has to avoid killing innocent civilians. If they wanted to kill innocent Palestinians, they would have nuked all of them decades ago.
2. Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Naomi Klein, Avi Lewis and many of the other leaders of the anti-Israel movement are Jewish. Stop making shit up.
3. You're just repeating what you already said, without responding to my points.
1. Israel says they were targeting terrorists while killing a thousand civilians. Many women and children too. Easy to fabricate a moral intention but the world saw. The world knows what Israel actually did. That's what the condemnation is all about.
2. Noam Chomsky and the rest (a mere handful) are virtually ignored by media and unknown by the masses and are labeled self-hating, pay a heavy price to criticize the Zionists that control Israel.
1. Yes, because many civilians are used as human shields by the terrorists (which actually *is* a war crime). As I said, why has Israel killed less than 0.1% of Palestinians if they wanted innocent Palestinians dead?
2. They're ignored by the media because they're radicals that no one agrees with. However, that has nothing to do with my point. Jews lead the anti-Israel movement, as I said.
1. On almost every position they hold (such as hatred of Israel), no one in America agrees with them.
2. Michael Moore, who is less radical than Chomsky and others, has had "mainstream" movies, and the American people know what he is saying and know that they agree with virtually nothing he says.
The main issue here is that Toronto is showing a bunch of films from Tel Aviv. Sort of a celebration of Israel films, at a time where Israel should be laying low due to it's war crimes against the people in Gaza. 1 out of 10 Torontonians is jewish...enough to jerk the TIFF around to play Israel up to be all things wonderful. Pure politics.
1. The definition of "war crime" is a dubious one that often is determined by morally corrupt organizations like the UN. Hamas committed more "war crimes" than Israel did in the war.
2. Jews statistically tend to be less pro-Israel than the population as a whole because they tend to be more liberal than the population as a whole.
3. China had many movies at the TIFF as well, and they've slaughtered 1 million Tibetans who never attempted to hurt China. How come you don't seem outraged about that?
Also, you drag out red herrings in your arguements...taking the issue elsewhere. It's a common tactic. A diversion.
The issue is not the U.N., Jewish liberalism or China. The issue is that Israel is manipulating a cultural event to display Israel and Tel Aviv as just another normal place. As all things are normal in Israel. All things are far from normal in Israel.
It's a whitewash and a 'branding', like the "come to FUN Israel to holiday", campaign that blew up in their faces a few years ago.
They're not red herrings at all. You have yet to address why 30,000 Palestinians killed bothers you more than 1 million Tibetans killed (particularly when Palestinians state outright in polls that they want Israel destroyed, whereas Tibetans are peaceful and have never wanted any such things)
John Greyson, let me put a stop to that brain fart of yours.
Here is the Cambridge dictionary definition of the term:
Boycott- to refuse to buy a product or take part in an activity as a way of expressing strong disapproval
John Greyson pulled his movie out from the event, thats a boycott right there, furthermore, John Greyson protested the festivals decision to include Israeli films, thats a boycott.
I disagree, I think that Israel showed great restraint for too long, Israel's so called brutality does not even come close to the brutality that Arabs/palestinians/Muslims inflict on each other.
For example, the events of "Black September", when the Arab state of Jordan managed to kill about 10,000 palestinians in one single year. That's brutal!
Just look at how badly Lebanon treats these palestinians, keeping them in camps with bad conditions, Lebanon denies it's palestinian population the right to own or inherit property, not to mention the right for social security and the right to work. Jordan, meanwhile, has taken to stripping some of it's palestinian population of their citizenship.
You know why the Arab states treat the so called palestinians so badly? You know why the Arab states wont allow the palestinians to live in the vast Arab lands?
Its clear that the Arab states never genuinely cared about each other and they always fight among themselves... However, the real reason behind the Arab states bad treatment of the palestinians, is to ensure that the Palestinians remain homeless, the Arab states dont want to aid theyre palestinian brothers, because they dont care but also because they want the problem solved at Israels expense.
The Arab states could easily end the palestinian refugee problem, after all palestinians are the exact same Arabs who live in Jordan, Egypt, Syria..etc. They could easily come and live on the vast Arab lands, but the Arab leaders wont allow the integration and the return of the palestinians to the Arab lands. The Arab leaders want to keep the palestinian refugee problem as an open soar against Israel.
The palestinians should have the right to return to the Arab homelands of their ancestors. It is clear that the Arab world doesnt care about its "palestinian" brothers at all. They simply use the palestinians as a political pawn, as a weapon against Israel.
It's called a war.... A lot of innocent people die.... It's the inevitable truth so there is no need to act surprised... palestinians cannot terrorize Israel all the time and then look outraged when Israel responds harder.... You either make peace or you defeat your enemy... Obviously making peace with the current palestinian government is not feasible..... So you try to defeat your enemy.... Someone wins and someone has to lose...
Pretty dishonest arguing, there, Prager. You completely avoid (like most apologists) the brutality Israel has inflicted on the Palestinian territories these past 30 years. I went from fully supporting Israel to being completely opposed to its bullying and oppression of the Palestinians. And that's some trick, considering how much I loathe the Palestinian terrorists. Of course honesty is not a strong suit for either you or the present Israeli government at present.
The Arabs would rather teach their children about sacrifice, death and suicide, they create little Jihadists who will go on to kill innocent Israeli civilians, instead of teaching their children about love and life, the Arabs teach their children about death.
There would be no war, if the Arabs cared about their children more than they care about destroying Israel!
People should make the most of what they have, the war in the Middle East happened because the Arabs dont focus on the development of their own countries, they dont care for their children; the Arabs are much more preoccupied with killing Jews and destroying Israel.
I do not want to pick on America, I love America, and theyre indeed numerous countries who have committed a multitude of crimes, not the least of them are the Arab states. Most countries have bloodied their hands and Europe remains notable for most of the blood that has been spilled. Why than do people discriminate against the Jewish state? Oh what a silly question.
People remain quiet about annexing Texas from Mexico. What would these righteous people say if tomorrow Mexico started firing rockets at Texas? Should the people of Texas endure unending years of terror the same way the Israelis are expected to endure the decades long attacks from Gaza and the Palestinians? Or perhaps they have some right to self-defence that the Jews do not have?
In all their self-righteousness, people remain unconcerned about the Native Americans, whose homes were taken, the man who Americans celebrate, Christopher Columbus has committed genocide, killing many natives, while the U.S and Canada still occupy the land today..
The Jewish people must break the habit of passiveness and silence. The people need also to educate themselves and research in order to debunk the conspiracies of their opponents. The Jewish people must respond whenever theyre attacked.*** It is the least that we can do.
For the Jewish people, there is only one thing left to do, they cannot stop this process, but we can at least present our account of things, and make it knowable to the people around the world, the Jewish people must be on guard and that also means standing at the posts of the virtual world and monitoring the current trends and happenings.
Where is the homo John Greyson when homos are getting killed in Arab states?
Where is the anti-Semitic feminist Alice Walker when Muslim women are treated like shit in Arab countries?
Are they advocates of human rights? And if they are, why aren't they speaking out against homo killing-woman oppressing Arab states? So much for human rights advocates....
The fact that there are bigger human rights violations going on in the world does not matter, because nobody mentions anything. The spotlight is always on Israel and dim people like John Greyson are only aware of the "crimes" that Israel commits, while the rest of the world is perfect and clean.
2. So much for a "Jewish state". Their religion strongly condemns homosexuality. But I don't really expect them to follow their religion when they mercilessly kill people without hesitation. And didn't a gay bar get shot up in Israel not too long ago?
2. If Israel wanted to "mercilessly kill people without hesitation", they would have nuked all the Palestinians decades ago, yet they've killed less than 0.1% of them and the Palestinian population has grown substantially since 1948.
3. 25% of the Israeli population is Muslim and are treated as equals, making them the freest and most prosperous Muslims in the world. Why hasn't Israel "mercilessly killed" them "without hesitation".
1.i read some of the boycotters letter their not against israels movies but their against what they call "Brand Israel campaign"
i think this is stupid. why shouldnt we show TLV (some of those movie have a lot of criticism on israe & tlv) as the multicultural\sophisticated city tht it is? we r affected daily by the Pal but we also live an individal lifes tht dont involve the Pal- & thts OK.
2.they tell the organizers tht the festival has 2 address the "occupation" but they doing so with boycotting (am i the only 1 2 c the hypocrisy?)
3. the fnny thing is- is tht it shows movies tht r verry critic on israel wars.
4.i wonder- if they would have only showed Pal moviest tht doesnt show the israelis as victims 2- whould the same ppl rise up against this "propaganda machine"?
1. Citing a book that agrees with you doesn't make you right.
2. Every country has some racists (though no one more than Muslim countries). However, the Muslims in Israel still choose to stay rather than return to their homelands where their brethren/relatives live... because they know they'll have more freedom and prosperity in Israel.
"film makers have pulled out because the are showing Israeli films". Blatant Pig Bastard Lie
"of all the countries who should not be able to show a film.....its Israel". Right. Because this is about picking on poor Israelis. This is where the racism peeks its ugly head. Tell us.....why should we be celebrating the anniversary of a city that ethnically cleansed the indigenous inhabitants? Could it be that to Zionists, Arabs/Goyim are sub human and dont merit recognition? right.
Typical lawyer scum move. When your argument is too weak to support move to Ad ho minim attacks on John Greyson. You dont think Mr Greyson knows the stance of Hamas on homosexuality? Mr Greyson like most decent human beings puts his own issues aside to address universal sins. Like Israel murdering, ethnically cleansing, and celebrating anniversaries of cities founded by these policies and being presented in a smug 'business as usual' manner.
To answer your question, his entire stance and that of all Zionists is based purely on racism. He is a redneck pig. If you can show me how im a bigot upandopen i am in your debt.
He's a "redneck pig, racist, lawyer scum, blatant pig bastard lier etc." because he expressed an opinion you disagree with. So yes, you are a bigot.
China had multiple movies at the festival, but you didn't boycott them. China massacred over a million Tibetans (10% of them). Tibetans never killed any Chinese civilians (Palestinians regularly kill Israeli ones).
Israel has not killed 0.1% of Palestinians (the Palestinian population has in fact grown), while they could have wiped them all out.
Whats your point? That we should look the other way while Israel ethnically cleanses Arabs? I love that how everyone in Toronto is disgusted by you Nazi scum.
1. Surely if they were "ethnically cleansing" Arabs, there would be fewer Arabs now than before they started?
2. Surely if they were "ethnically cleansing" Arabs, they would start with Israeli Arabs, since they're the easiest to get? (rather, Israeli Arabs are the freest Arabs in the world)
3. You never responded about why you're not boycotting China.
4. You're the only person to have used the word Nazi. Of the four other people that responded, only one agrees with you, and two are Canadian.
1. Nothing to do with population growth models. Read Ilan Pappe's "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"
2. Israeli Arabs, obviously came afterward. Many Israelis do not like that there are Arab Israeli citizens. Furthermore, they are discriminated against in Israel because they're Arab
3. I do. It's difficult, but I try.
4. Okay, this is a response to someone else, so I'll only respond by saying that it is ridiculous to invoke Nazism when discussing this issue.
Protesting against zionism is in the same spirit of those who are against anti semitism.
We are against Aparthid, not Jewish people. What is incredible is that many film makers in Israel and Jewish people are also against the City to City program and the Israelie Aparthid.
This video is just pure Toronto Sun AIPAC Bush Doctorne Harper Neo Con With us or Against Us crap.
1) The have created the shittiest conditions in Gaza. Their soldiers have admitted shooting civilians including children. They blew up a UN school and shelled ambulances. They killed UN truck drivers. They gathered civilians in homes and shelled them.
1. The conditions are bad, but that is largely because of the Palestinians. If Israel had no reason to fear the Palestinians attacking them, they wouldn't need to impose tight conditions. Since Israel got out of Gaza, there were no Israeli soldiers there, but the Palestinians continued to launch missiles.
2. The issue is that you might expect a "gay rights activist" (Grayson) to be less supportive of the Palestinians since they kill people for being gay (whereas Israel treats gays very well).
1. The economic blockade was a violation of a treaty between Israelis and Palestinians, which is why Palestinians were launching rockets. Israeli's are killing civilians doing nothing different from the Nazis who killed their ancestors. This is basically defending the indefensible. Right not Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world all under Israel's watch. Even Israeli soldiers are standing up against Israel's war crimes.
1. So unless Israel gives the Palestinians free money, the Israelis should expect their civilians to get bombed?
2. The blockade only existed because the Palestinians used all resources coming in for weapons to kill Israelis with. If the Palestinians bring down Hamas, the blockade will end.
3. The Jews that were butchered by the Nazis never attempted to kill Germans. 60% of Palestinians want the destruction of Israel.
4. "Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world". Millions of Africans are being butchered in the Congo every year. 10 million Tibetans got murdered by China. Throughout the Muslim world, women, gays, and minorities get hanged for non-crimes.
Nevertheless, "Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world under Israel's watch".
Maybe your obsession with Jewish evils is a bit anti-semitic?
U must be a part of that large portion of the shitty (so called) humanity which has nothing better to do but somehow everyday and somewhere to get their addictive fix to blame Jews one way or the other ..oh well, u not the first , u are not the last, but we(some of us Jews) have finally learned
Nazis are arguably the single most evil force in history, and killed millions of people for committing no crime except being born a certain way.
You compared Israel to Nazis, even though they very specifically target people who are terrorists. As I said, if they wanted Nazi-like genocide, they could have nuked all the Palestinians decade ago. They also could have nuked the Egyptians, Jordanians, Moroccans, etc, but somehow they cease to be racists when it comes to peaceful Muslim states.
Not only that, but it's exclusively Israel that you call Nazi. In fact, the one country that happens to be run by Jews is responsible for the "biggest humanitarian crisis in the world". More African Muslims are being killed by Sudanese Arabs every month than Palestinian Muslims have been killed in 60 years. Do you just not know about this? Why do you only know about these things when Jews are responsible?
Upandopen, as far as killing , in my opinion, and I am a Jew - we definetly not doing enough killing..a long way to go to catch up with the rest of shitheads ..
People have become obsessed with bashing Israel, it's become very trendy and cool, these people are not concerned with human rights, they are concerned with bashing Israel, it's partly the media's fault, people go after Israel all the time not because it supposedly violated some human rights, but because Israel was made controversial, everything connected with the Jewish state, or with the Jews in general has become the juicy news and it sells.
People continuously single out Israel, the Jewish state, placing every possible blame on the Jewish people, accusing the Jewish state of every evil, while for the most part ignoring the crimes that the rest of the world commits, no doubt they think that the Jewish state must be the most horrible place on earth, and then they wonder why the Jews call them anti-Semites... Sincerely do they not understand that they commit anti-Semitism...
A new wave of anti-Semitism, cloaked under anti-Israel rhetoric, operates on attacking the Jews indirectly, and by means of trying to falsely separate the Jews from the state of Israel, wrongly thinking theyre separate entities, by means of trying to separate these two ideas, anti-Semites make themselves unconscious of their own anti-Semitism, this false arrangement of ideas allows them to carry on comfortably without the guilt and acknowledgment of having committed anti-Semitism.
While the many anti-Semites of today are truly delusional and naive, there are these who are perfectly aware of being an anti-Semite and admit it proudly.
The new wave of anti-Semitism mostly consists of the former group I mentioned, they deny the charge of anti-Semitism, and they use human rights issues as a cover up for their constant need and urge to attack the Jewish state.
Their incessant and unbalanced criticism of Israel has exposed their motives for what they really are; they are not interested in human rights as much as they are really interested in undermining the Jewish state.
They move by way of strategy and deception, knowing that they cannot advance their attacks as openly as the earlier anti-Semites did. They find new strategies; specifically I want to point out one emerging strategy that seeks to create a perception of a divided Jewish people. These gentiles have taken advantage of these Jews who for one reason or another turned against the Jewish state.
Even though these Jews who are against Israel are a minority, clearly lacking in the consensus and the representation of the Jewish community, gentiles and even some self-hating Jews continue to work towards presenting a distorted picture of where the Jewish people really stand.
The majority of the Jewish people stand with Israel!
They sneakily prepare to attack the Jews by way of altering the Jewish identity to mould a new identity that downplays the importance of Israel to Judaism. Their goal: To discredit the Jews and take away the Jewish right to a homeland.
They make good use of these self-hating and misguided Jews to weaken the Jewish people. To effectively combat this strategy, the Jewish people must continue to reaffirm their love for the Jewish state. The Jews must revisit the bible to remember the special place that Israel holds within the frame of Judaism.
Like their predecessors, todays anti-Semites continue to thrive on conspiracy theories, specifically these that supply them with the tools to attack their opposition. These anti-Semites work for the vigorous spread of these theories that are convenient to them and present a preferred reality of the world.
I will not undertake to describe the different conspiracies that anti-Semites have used throughout history, for they are too numerous. However, it is clear that there has always been a shared theme running through every conspiracy, always painting the Jews as the evil men who want to take over the world.
The stories change according to each period but the message remains the same. Earlier conspiracies sought to demonize the Jews, whereas contemporary conspiracies focus on discrediting the Jews and Israel. Now they also moved to demonize Israel.
The Jews cannot stop the rapid circulation of this falsehood, the new age of information and technology makes it especially difficult in preventing this propaganda from reaching the masses. The internet provides wide distribution of things and makes its contents accessible to almost everyone and everywhere.
This falsehood then finds its way into the gullible and easily persuaded minds of people, who now began to rely on places like YouTube for their daily news. They choose to accept that what they find on YouTube presents the truth. This opens a new door for conspiracy enthusiasts who now have the means and the tools to distribute their stories most of which are targeted at the ignorant and the uneducated.
This guy is full of shit. This issue isnt "Israel isnt allowed to show a film" asshole and you know it.
Looking at modern, sophisticated Tel Aviv without also considering the city's past and the realities of Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza strip would be like rhapsodizing about the beauty and elegant lifestyles in white-only Cape Town or Johannesburg during apartheid without acknowledging the corresponding black townships of Khayelitsha and Soweto
Except that over 25% of the residents of Tel Aviv are Muslim and are treated as equals, making them the freest and most prosperous Muslims in the Middle East if not the world.
This past year has also seen: the devastating Gaza massacre of eight months ago, resulting in over 1000 civilian deaths; the election of a Prime Minister accused of war crimes; the aggressive extension of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands; the accelerated destruction of Palestinian homes and orchards; the viral growth of the totalitarian security wall, and the further enshrining of the check point system.
If Israel wanted to kill innocent Muslims, they could have nuked all the Palestinians decades ago, or they could have killed or kicked out Israel's Muslims. But they haven't done that, because they have no interest in doing that. The "massacre" was purely the result result of Israel responding to terrorists who were targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian ones.
Israel elected Netanyahu because of the missiles and built the wall and check points for the same reason.
they are a a pack of dunces that usually help give Israel more of a push than a boycott. a perfect example was when these losers tried to protest Israeli wine at the ontario liquor stores. word got out quick and thousands of people turned out to buy as much Israeli wine as possible. al liquor stores in toronto were sold out of Israeli wine in about 2 hours thanks to the confederacy of useful idiots.
Jane Fonda, Danny Glover, Naomi Klein, John Greyson and the likes, these people really dont have a clue, do they.. ? it is no loss to anyone but themselves.. Good .. we dont need their slop anyway and they are no moral giants, in any form...
WaterGirl49 3 months ago
Short,sweet and simple.No wonder it's so offensive to the deep thinkers who thrive and depend on complications for ongoing relevance.
Pomiferous 8 months ago
Brilliant as usual. also, This week the United Nations voted to remove a reference to sexual orientation from its resolution against extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions.among those that voted against was Israel. so to all of you gay people who are so concerned about the Palestinians rights ( you know, the people who voted for Hamas that calls for the destruction of Israel and Jews all over the world ) - when you go to sleep with dogs don't be surprised to wake up with fleas.
omrib113 1 year ago
What is it that you don't get about Israel and its persecution of the Palistinian people? I don't hate anyone but I do despise the inability of the American government to act in a balanced manner on the issue. Dennis Prager has no interest in even questioning the current situation. It's easier to malign anyone in the "radical left" which is more a figment of the Christian Right.
exocet2000 1 year ago
@exocet2000 Israel took in 600,000 Jews thrown out of Muslims countries. OTOH, the Arab world shunned the 800,000 Palestinians who chose to leave Israel before it was attacked, people Israel asked not to leave. This was a deliberate strategy so they could blame Israel for the refugee problem. Their leaders have rejected a Palestinian state multiple times, because very simply, that's not their objective. It only takes one side to prevent peace, and that's the Arab side.
horsie111 1 year ago
ok...so because Israelis are less homophobic than Palestinians, then this man should abandon his morals and lower his self to the standards of the aforementioned discriminatory parties?
Moreover, are you saying that because Israelis are less homophobic, that they are justified in their illegal occupation and punishment of the Palestinian people? Thats sound logic you've got there Prager! You ugly bastard!
khany1388 1 year ago
This video is an illustration why the left wing is hideous.
ptp44444 2 years ago
Gah its not true... nobody was saying Israeli films should not be put there.
Kamal767 2 years ago
The Toronto Film Festival has the right to exclude Israeli films they consider "too radical" for their audience.
JimmySmers 2 years ago 2
Yes they do. And Dennis Prager and I have the right to point out that they're morons for holding that view.
upandopen 2 years ago 7
Neither. The gay pride parade in Jerusalem has been repeatedly attacked by ultra-orthodox radicals, and the ironic part of it is that the Palistinian imams supported the rabbis in this one case.
If one thing brings religious lunatics together it's hatred of gays.
ScottTenorman1 2 years ago
1 million Tibetans killed by China? When did this phantom massacre happen?
lordhighexecutioner 2 years ago
Google "Tibet genocide".
upandopen 2 years ago
Prager makes a good point. The moron would most likely be celebrated if he showed it in Tel Aviv. If he showed it in the West Bank, he'd be stoned to death.
S0vereignty 2 years ago
1. Lots of countries have films at TIFF...that's why it's called the Toronto "International" Film Festival. At issue is the special celebration and special attention to the films from Tel Aviv.
2. The world does not see Israel as peace-loving.... period. Just because you say that does not make it so. The world sees Israel as an apartheid country.
3. Israel chooses to diminish Palestinians slowly over decades.
4. Israel's illegal actions not only irk, but incited 9/11 and other acts.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
1. So you're fine with China butchering a million innocent Tibetans as long as their movies only are "featured", just not "celebrated" at TIFF?
2. The "world" did nothing for the Jews/Tibetans/Armenians/Sudanese/Rwandans that got slaughtered in history. I don't care what the "world" thinks.
3. The Palestinian population has grown substantially since 1948.
4. You didn't respond to my argument. Cartoons and movies they dislike "irk" them to violent acts too, so should we ban those?
upandopen 2 years ago
The world did nothing for the Jews? Gee, they only fought World War II against the Third Reich but in your view "that's doing nothing"?
JimmySmers 2 years ago
I meant the non-US world. The rest of the world attempted (and failed) to defend themselves (not the Jews) from the Nazis.
upandopen 2 years ago
what about the sucide bomber that attack innocent people in isarel. the paestinian people are diminishing themselves by electing hamas as leaders of their country.
budybradley 2 years ago
Do you see that comparing their most quilty with your most innocent is a manipulation of emotion? Can we also compare your most quilty with their most innocent? Now compare the average of each and you will see who is the dominated by whom.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
@budybradley and the jews are diminishing themselves by electing people like Netanyahu to lead their country.
kecskeszem 1 year ago
Nothing to do with Tibet.
The world wants peace in Israel. Why? Because the world fears that what is happening in Israel will be the 'powder keg' that begins WWIII.
That is why the attention is on Israel to smarten up.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
So you'll have to explain to me:
The Chinese can kill 1 million innocent Tibetans (10% of their population), and that will in NO WAY instigate WW3. When Jews on the other hand kill 30,000 Palestinians over 60 years (less than 0.1% of their population), when there has been abundant violence against Israel, that IS going to instigate WW3.
upandopen 2 years ago
The topic at hand is the TIFF. It's just a small way of branding Israel as a normal peace loving all-things-western-and-great-country. But it isn't. Israel is smack dab in the center of a bunch of Arab muslim countries and run by a bunch of Zionists that want all the Palestinians OUT or dominated at the very least. Apartheid, jewish style. This irks Arabs, especially militant Arabs. American support irked militants enough to do 9/11. That brings in the WWIII threat. Let Israel fight alone.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
1. I brought up China because they also had lots of films at TIFF, which you didn't complain about.
2. Israel is peace-loving but surrounded by war-mongering racists.
3. If Israel wanted "all the Palestinians OUT", they would have eradicated them decades ago.
4. Lots of things "irk" Muslims, including cartoons/movies they dislike and girls going to school in Afghanistan. If you think that Arabs getting upset about something is evidence that that thing is wrong, then you're very morally confused.
upandopen 2 years ago
1. People saw what Israel did. Nothing to do with definitions. We saw the helicopters dumping the phosphorous.
2.Jews are liberal domestically but pro-Israel too, no matter what Israel does. Vast majority of Jews are pro-Israel in all ways. Jews that are not are discounted as self-hating.
3. The TIFF has a platform that celebrates and highlights just Tel Aviv films. A poor choice done for political reasons only. A whitewash.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
1. Israel was targeting terrorists. They do more than any military in the history of the world has to avoid killing innocent civilians. If they wanted to kill innocent Palestinians, they would have nuked all of them decades ago.
2. Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Naomi Klein, Avi Lewis and many of the other leaders of the anti-Israel movement are Jewish. Stop making shit up.
3. You're just repeating what you already said, without responding to my points.
upandopen 2 years ago
1. Israel says they were targeting terrorists while killing a thousand civilians. Many women and children too. Easy to fabricate a moral intention but the world saw. The world knows what Israel actually did. That's what the condemnation is all about.
2. Noam Chomsky and the rest (a mere handful) are virtually ignored by media and unknown by the masses and are labeled self-hating, pay a heavy price to criticize the Zionists that control Israel.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
1. Yes, because many civilians are used as human shields by the terrorists (which actually *is* a war crime). As I said, why has Israel killed less than 0.1% of Palestinians if they wanted innocent Palestinians dead?
2. They're ignored by the media because they're radicals that no one agrees with. However, that has nothing to do with my point. Jews lead the anti-Israel movement, as I said.
upandopen 2 years ago
Define "too radical"?
How do you know the masses don't agree with them if the media has never given them the opportunity to speak to the masses via TV?
Your logic really doesn't make sense at all.
JimmySmers 2 years ago
1. On almost every position they hold (such as hatred of Israel), no one in America agrees with them.
2. Michael Moore, who is less radical than Chomsky and others, has had "mainstream" movies, and the American people know what he is saying and know that they agree with virtually nothing he says.
upandopen 2 years ago
The main issue here is that Toronto is showing a bunch of films from Tel Aviv. Sort of a celebration of Israel films, at a time where Israel should be laying low due to it's war crimes against the people in Gaza. 1 out of 10 Torontonians is jewish...enough to jerk the TIFF around to play Israel up to be all things wonderful. Pure politics.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
1. The definition of "war crime" is a dubious one that often is determined by morally corrupt organizations like the UN. Hamas committed more "war crimes" than Israel did in the war.
2. Jews statistically tend to be less pro-Israel than the population as a whole because they tend to be more liberal than the population as a whole.
3. China had many movies at the TIFF as well, and they've slaughtered 1 million Tibetans who never attempted to hurt China. How come you don't seem outraged about that?
upandopen 2 years ago
Also, you drag out red herrings in your arguements...taking the issue elsewhere. It's a common tactic. A diversion.
The issue is not the U.N., Jewish liberalism or China. The issue is that Israel is manipulating a cultural event to display Israel and Tel Aviv as just another normal place. As all things are normal in Israel. All things are far from normal in Israel.
It's a whitewash and a 'branding', like the "come to FUN Israel to holiday", campaign that blew up in their faces a few years ago.
JohnnyRock2000 2 years ago
They're not red herrings at all. You have yet to address why 30,000 Palestinians killed bothers you more than 1 million Tibetans killed (particularly when Palestinians state outright in polls that they want Israel destroyed, whereas Tibetans are peaceful and have never wanted any such things)
upandopen 2 years ago
John Greyson, let me put a stop to that brain fart of yours.
Here is the Cambridge dictionary definition of the term:
Boycott- to refuse to buy a product or take part in an activity as a way of expressing strong disapproval
John Greyson pulled his movie out from the event, thats a boycott right there, furthermore, John Greyson protested the festivals decision to include Israeli films, thats a boycott.
chesterlover4eva 2 years ago 2
OrmEmber
I disagree, I think that Israel showed great restraint for too long, Israel's so called brutality does not even come close to the brutality that Arabs/palestinians/Muslims inflict on each other.
For example, the events of "Black September", when the Arab state of Jordan managed to kill about 10,000 palestinians in one single year. That's brutal!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
OrmEmber
Just look at how badly Lebanon treats these palestinians, keeping them in camps with bad conditions, Lebanon denies it's palestinian population the right to own or inherit property, not to mention the right for social security and the right to work. Jordan, meanwhile, has taken to stripping some of it's palestinian population of their citizenship.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
You know why the Arab states treat the so called palestinians so badly? You know why the Arab states wont allow the palestinians to live in the vast Arab lands?
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Its clear that the Arab states never genuinely cared about each other and they always fight among themselves... However, the real reason behind the Arab states bad treatment of the palestinians, is to ensure that the Palestinians remain homeless, the Arab states dont want to aid theyre palestinian brothers, because they dont care but also because they want the problem solved at Israels expense.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The Arab states could easily end the palestinian refugee problem, after all palestinians are the exact same Arabs who live in Jordan, Egypt, Syria..etc. They could easily come and live on the vast Arab lands, but the Arab leaders wont allow the integration and the return of the palestinians to the Arab lands. The Arab leaders want to keep the palestinian refugee problem as an open soar against Israel.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The palestinians should have the right to return to the Arab homelands of their ancestors. It is clear that the Arab world doesnt care about its "palestinian" brothers at all. They simply use the palestinians as a political pawn, as a weapon against Israel.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
OrmEmber
It's called a war.... A lot of innocent people die.... It's the inevitable truth so there is no need to act surprised... palestinians cannot terrorize Israel all the time and then look outraged when Israel responds harder.... You either make peace or you defeat your enemy... Obviously making peace with the current palestinian government is not feasible..... So you try to defeat your enemy.... Someone wins and someone has to lose...
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
If you do not make peace and if you do not defeat your enemy the war will go on indefinitely and the future will remain in the state of limbo.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Pretty dishonest arguing, there, Prager. You completely avoid (like most apologists) the brutality Israel has inflicted on the Palestinian territories these past 30 years. I went from fully supporting Israel to being completely opposed to its bullying and oppression of the Palestinians. And that's some trick, considering how much I loathe the Palestinian terrorists. Of course honesty is not a strong suit for either you or the present Israeli government at present.
OrmEmber 2 years ago
1. The brutality will end as soon as the Palestinian terrorists stop threatening innocent Israelis.
2. He doesn't pretend that the brutality doesn't exist.
3. His criticism is that there are far more brutal and far less justified atrocities happening (eg China) which these people didn't protest.
4. Do you have a response to his point about Grayson? The Palestinians kill people for being gay.
upandopen 2 years ago
The Arabs would rather teach their children about sacrifice, death and suicide, they create little Jihadists who will go on to kill innocent Israeli civilians, instead of teaching their children about love and life, the Arabs teach their children about death.
There would be no war, if the Arabs cared about their children more than they care about destroying Israel!
Well said, Golda Meir!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
People should make the most of what they have, the war in the Middle East happened because the Arabs dont focus on the development of their own countries, they dont care for their children; the Arabs are much more preoccupied with killing Jews and destroying Israel.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
There was once a very wise woman who said something very true!
She said:
"We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us."
Golda Meir quote
Golda Meir was a woman who was also the fourth prime minister of the state of Israel!
I want people to reflect on the quote above, it summarizes the whole conflict in the Middle East!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
I do not want to pick on America, I love America, and theyre indeed numerous countries who have committed a multitude of crimes, not the least of them are the Arab states. Most countries have bloodied their hands and Europe remains notable for most of the blood that has been spilled. Why than do people discriminate against the Jewish state? Oh what a silly question.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
People remain quiet about annexing Texas from Mexico. What would these righteous people say if tomorrow Mexico started firing rockets at Texas? Should the people of Texas endure unending years of terror the same way the Israelis are expected to endure the decades long attacks from Gaza and the Palestinians? Or perhaps they have some right to self-defence that the Jews do not have?
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Can anyone see the hypocrisy?
In all their self-righteousness, people remain unconcerned about the Native Americans, whose homes were taken, the man who Americans celebrate, Christopher Columbus has committed genocide, killing many natives, while the U.S and Canada still occupy the land today..
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The Jewish people must break the habit of passiveness and silence. The people need also to educate themselves and research in order to debunk the conspiracies of their opponents. The Jewish people must respond whenever theyre attacked.*** It is the least that we can do.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
For the Jewish people, there is only one thing left to do, they cannot stop this process, but we can at least present our account of things, and make it knowable to the people around the world, the Jewish people must be on guard and that also means standing at the posts of the virtual world and monitoring the current trends and happenings.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Where is the homo John Greyson when homos are getting killed in Arab states?
Where is the anti-Semitic feminist Alice Walker when Muslim women are treated like shit in Arab countries?
Are they advocates of human rights? And if they are, why aren't they speaking out against homo killing-woman oppressing Arab states? So much for human rights advocates....
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The fact that there are bigger human rights violations going on in the world does not matter, because nobody mentions anything. The spotlight is always on Israel and dim people like John Greyson are only aware of the "crimes" that Israel commits, while the rest of the world is perfect and clean.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
By the way, Jane Fonda has retracted her support from the protest. She has come to her senses....
I also want to thank Jon Voight for his support of the Jewish state! He's actions are very noble!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The biggest irony!
Homos who support palestinians who hate homos and would repay the favour by hanging a homo like John Greyson. Just an irony!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Fuck John Greyson!
He's a fucking anti-Semite!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
2. So much for a "Jewish state". Their religion strongly condemns homosexuality. But I don't really expect them to follow their religion when they mercilessly kill people without hesitation. And didn't a gay bar get shot up in Israel not too long ago?
problemchild786 2 years ago
1. Israel is essentially secular.
2. If Israel wanted to "mercilessly kill people without hesitation", they would have nuked all the Palestinians decades ago, yet they've killed less than 0.1% of them and the Palestinian population has grown substantially since 1948.
3. 25% of the Israeli population is Muslim and are treated as equals, making them the freest and most prosperous Muslims in the world. Why hasn't Israel "mercilessly killed" them "without hesitation".
upandopen 2 years ago
End the Zionist occupation in the GAZA strip
jachim718 2 years ago
There is not one Israeli soldier in the Gaza strip.
upandopen 2 years ago
1.i read some of the boycotters letter their not against israels movies but their against what they call "Brand Israel campaign"
i think this is stupid. why shouldnt we show TLV (some of those movie have a lot of criticism on israe & tlv) as the multicultural\sophisticated city tht it is? we r affected daily by the Pal but we also live an individal lifes tht dont involve the Pal- & thts OK.
the idea was not to get into politics.
rinatep 2 years ago
2.they tell the organizers tht the festival has 2 address the "occupation" but they doing so with boycotting (am i the only 1 2 c the hypocrisy?)
3. the fnny thing is- is tht it shows movies tht r verry critic on israel wars.
4.i wonder- if they would have only showed Pal moviest tht doesnt show the israelis as victims 2- whould the same ppl rise up against this "propaganda machine"?
rinatep 2 years ago
5.its funny they boyycot tlv- the most "leftist" city in israel- where most israels best intellectual\left\ against the ocupation live.
rinatep 2 years ago
1. Citing a book that agrees with you doesn't make you right.
2. Every country has some racists (though no one more than Muslim countries). However, the Muslims in Israel still choose to stay rather than return to their homelands where their brethren/relatives live... because they know they'll have more freedom and prosperity in Israel.
3. What?
upandopen 2 years ago
I cant believe i listened to this whole racist redneck tirade. This pig isnt even human.
willquinteros 2 years ago
Could you name one thing he said that was racist?
He's expressed an opinion you dislike and you've called him a redneck/pig/non-human. Maybe you're more of a bigot than he is?
upandopen 2 years ago
"film makers have pulled out because the are showing Israeli films". Blatant Pig Bastard Lie
"of all the countries who should not be able to show a film.....its Israel". Right. Because this is about picking on poor Israelis. This is where the racism peeks its ugly head. Tell us.....why should we be celebrating the anniversary of a city that ethnically cleansed the indigenous inhabitants? Could it be that to Zionists, Arabs/Goyim are sub human and dont merit recognition? right.
willquinteros 2 years ago
Typical lawyer scum move. When your argument is too weak to support move to Ad ho minim attacks on John Greyson. You dont think Mr Greyson knows the stance of Hamas on homosexuality? Mr Greyson like most decent human beings puts his own issues aside to address universal sins. Like Israel murdering, ethnically cleansing, and celebrating anniversaries of cities founded by these policies and being presented in a smug 'business as usual' manner.
willquinteros 2 years ago
To answer your question, his entire stance and that of all Zionists is based purely on racism. He is a redneck pig. If you can show me how im a bigot upandopen i am in your debt.
willquinteros 2 years ago
He's a "redneck pig, racist, lawyer scum, blatant pig bastard lier etc." because he expressed an opinion you disagree with. So yes, you are a bigot.
China had multiple movies at the festival, but you didn't boycott them. China massacred over a million Tibetans (10% of them). Tibetans never killed any Chinese civilians (Palestinians regularly kill Israeli ones).
Israel has not killed 0.1% of Palestinians (the Palestinian population has in fact grown), while they could have wiped them all out.
upandopen 2 years ago
Nazi apologist.
willquinteros 2 years ago
Thank you for proving my point.
upandopen 2 years ago
Whats your point? That we should look the other way while Israel ethnically cleanses Arabs? I love that how everyone in Toronto is disgusted by you Nazi scum.
willquinteros 2 years ago
1. Surely if they were "ethnically cleansing" Arabs, there would be fewer Arabs now than before they started?
2. Surely if they were "ethnically cleansing" Arabs, they would start with Israeli Arabs, since they're the easiest to get? (rather, Israeli Arabs are the freest Arabs in the world)
3. You never responded about why you're not boycotting China.
4. You're the only person to have used the word Nazi. Of the four other people that responded, only one agrees with you, and two are Canadian.
upandopen 2 years ago
Amnesty International states "Israel is guilty of human rights abuses including ethnic cleansing"
Easier to get then children in a concentration camp? Sure pal.
willquinteros 2 years ago
Amnesty International is a corrupt organization run by crackpots like you. And once again, you completely fail to address any of my points.
upandopen 2 years ago
This isnt an academic debate Adolf. Stop acting like fucking nazis and then the discussion can begin. How the fuck do you sleep at night.
Whatever. Karma's a bitch Herr upandopen.
willquinteros 2 years ago
LOL Nice try gestapo
willquinteros 2 years ago
1. Nothing to do with population growth models. Read Ilan Pappe's "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"
2. Israeli Arabs, obviously came afterward. Many Israelis do not like that there are Arab Israeli citizens. Furthermore, they are discriminated against in Israel because they're Arab
3. I do. It's difficult, but I try.
4. Okay, this is a response to someone else, so I'll only respond by saying that it is ridiculous to invoke Nazism when discussing this issue.
Dream23fb 2 years ago
this video is hilarious. lol This guy is such a joke.
darksideofthenation 2 years ago
That's a great rebuttal of his arguments.
upandopen 2 years ago
He has an argument?
Protesting against zionism is in the same spirit of those who are against anti semitism.
We are against Aparthid, not Jewish people. What is incredible is that many film makers in Israel and Jewish people are also against the City to City program and the Israelie Aparthid.
This video is just pure Toronto Sun AIPAC Bush Doctorne Harper Neo Con With us or Against Us crap.
darksideofthenation 2 years ago
Two of his arguments:
1. Why was Israel selected for boycott but not any other country (eg China, which has committed genocide, or Iran, which killed peaceful protesters)
2. Would gays be treated better by Israelis or Palestinians?
upandopen 2 years ago
1) The have created the shittiest conditions in Gaza. Their soldiers have admitted shooting civilians including children. They blew up a UN school and shelled ambulances. They killed UN truck drivers. They gathered civilians in homes and shelled them.
2) What do gays have to with Palestine/Israel?
problemchild786 2 years ago
1. The conditions are bad, but that is largely because of the Palestinians. If Israel had no reason to fear the Palestinians attacking them, they wouldn't need to impose tight conditions. Since Israel got out of Gaza, there were no Israeli soldiers there, but the Palestinians continued to launch missiles.
2. The issue is that you might expect a "gay rights activist" (Grayson) to be less supportive of the Palestinians since they kill people for being gay (whereas Israel treats gays very well).
upandopen 2 years ago
1. The economic blockade was a violation of a treaty between Israelis and Palestinians, which is why Palestinians were launching rockets. Israeli's are killing civilians doing nothing different from the Nazis who killed their ancestors. This is basically defending the indefensible. Right not Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world all under Israel's watch. Even Israeli soldiers are standing up against Israel's war crimes.
problemchild786 2 years ago
1. So unless Israel gives the Palestinians free money, the Israelis should expect their civilians to get bombed?
2. The blockade only existed because the Palestinians used all resources coming in for weapons to kill Israelis with. If the Palestinians bring down Hamas, the blockade will end.
3. The Jews that were butchered by the Nazis never attempted to kill Germans. 60% of Palestinians want the destruction of Israel.
upandopen 2 years ago
4. "Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world". Millions of Africans are being butchered in the Congo every year. 10 million Tibetans got murdered by China. Throughout the Muslim world, women, gays, and minorities get hanged for non-crimes.
Nevertheless, "Gaza has the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world under Israel's watch".
Maybe your obsession with Jewish evils is a bit anti-semitic?
upandopen 2 years ago
LOL once again they pull out the anti-semetic card whenever their government gets criticized...Just quit it, that trick is getting old.
problemchild786 2 years ago
Is it ? Blaming Jews, selecting Jews for consistent special requirement is not getting old - fuck off monkey
Kbrt111 2 years ago
U must be a part of that large portion of the shitty (so called) humanity which has nothing better to do but somehow everyday and somewhere to get their addictive fix to blame Jews one way or the other ..oh well, u not the first , u are not the last, but we(some of us Jews) have finally learned
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Nazis are arguably the single most evil force in history, and killed millions of people for committing no crime except being born a certain way.
You compared Israel to Nazis, even though they very specifically target people who are terrorists. As I said, if they wanted Nazi-like genocide, they could have nuked all the Palestinians decade ago. They also could have nuked the Egyptians, Jordanians, Moroccans, etc, but somehow they cease to be racists when it comes to peaceful Muslim states.
upandopen 2 years ago
Not only that, but it's exclusively Israel that you call Nazi. In fact, the one country that happens to be run by Jews is responsible for the "biggest humanitarian crisis in the world". More African Muslims are being killed by Sudanese Arabs every month than Palestinian Muslims have been killed in 60 years. Do you just not know about this? Why do you only know about these things when Jews are responsible?
upandopen 2 years ago
Upandopen, as far as killing , in my opinion, and I am a Jew - we definetly not doing enough killing..a long way to go to catch up with the rest of shitheads ..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
Shalom,
Thank you for posting this speech!
People have become obsessed with bashing Israel, it's become very trendy and cool, these people are not concerned with human rights, they are concerned with bashing Israel, it's partly the media's fault, people go after Israel all the time not because it supposedly violated some human rights, but because Israel was made controversial, everything connected with the Jewish state, or with the Jews in general has become the juicy news and it sells.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
People continuously single out Israel, the Jewish state, placing every possible blame on the Jewish people, accusing the Jewish state of every evil, while for the most part ignoring the crimes that the rest of the world commits, no doubt they think that the Jewish state must be the most horrible place on earth, and then they wonder why the Jews call them anti-Semites... Sincerely do they not understand that they commit anti-Semitism...
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
A new wave of anti-Semitism, cloaked under anti-Israel rhetoric, operates on attacking the Jews indirectly, and by means of trying to falsely separate the Jews from the state of Israel, wrongly thinking theyre separate entities, by means of trying to separate these two ideas, anti-Semites make themselves unconscious of their own anti-Semitism, this false arrangement of ideas allows them to carry on comfortably without the guilt and acknowledgment of having committed anti-Semitism.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
While the many anti-Semites of today are truly delusional and naive, there are these who are perfectly aware of being an anti-Semite and admit it proudly.
The new wave of anti-Semitism mostly consists of the former group I mentioned, they deny the charge of anti-Semitism, and they use human rights issues as a cover up for their constant need and urge to attack the Jewish state.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Their incessant and unbalanced criticism of Israel has exposed their motives for what they really are; they are not interested in human rights as much as they are really interested in undermining the Jewish state.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
They move by way of strategy and deception, knowing that they cannot advance their attacks as openly as the earlier anti-Semites did. They find new strategies; specifically I want to point out one emerging strategy that seeks to create a perception of a divided Jewish people. These gentiles have taken advantage of these Jews who for one reason or another turned against the Jewish state.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Even though these Jews who are against Israel are a minority, clearly lacking in the consensus and the representation of the Jewish community, gentiles and even some self-hating Jews continue to work towards presenting a distorted picture of where the Jewish people really stand.
The majority of the Jewish people stand with Israel!
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
They sneakily prepare to attack the Jews by way of altering the Jewish identity to mould a new identity that downplays the importance of Israel to Judaism. Their goal: To discredit the Jews and take away the Jewish right to a homeland.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
They make good use of these self-hating and misguided Jews to weaken the Jewish people. To effectively combat this strategy, the Jewish people must continue to reaffirm their love for the Jewish state. The Jews must revisit the bible to remember the special place that Israel holds within the frame of Judaism.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
Like their predecessors, todays anti-Semites continue to thrive on conspiracy theories, specifically these that supply them with the tools to attack their opposition. These anti-Semites work for the vigorous spread of these theories that are convenient to them and present a preferred reality of the world.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
I will not undertake to describe the different conspiracies that anti-Semites have used throughout history, for they are too numerous. However, it is clear that there has always been a shared theme running through every conspiracy, always painting the Jews as the evil men who want to take over the world.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The stories change according to each period but the message remains the same. Earlier conspiracies sought to demonize the Jews, whereas contemporary conspiracies focus on discrediting the Jews and Israel. Now they also moved to demonize Israel.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
The Jews cannot stop the rapid circulation of this falsehood, the new age of information and technology makes it especially difficult in preventing this propaganda from reaching the masses. The internet provides wide distribution of things and makes its contents accessible to almost everyone and everywhere.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
This falsehood then finds its way into the gullible and easily persuaded minds of people, who now began to rely on places like YouTube for their daily news. They choose to accept that what they find on YouTube presents the truth. This opens a new door for conspiracy enthusiasts who now have the means and the tools to distribute their stories most of which are targeted at the ignorant and the uneducated.
IsraelmineBeloved 2 years ago
This guy is full of shit. This issue isnt "Israel isnt allowed to show a film" asshole and you know it.
Looking at modern, sophisticated Tel Aviv without also considering the city's past and the realities of Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza strip would be like rhapsodizing about the beauty and elegant lifestyles in white-only Cape Town or Johannesburg during apartheid without acknowledging the corresponding black townships of Khayelitsha and Soweto
willquinteros 2 years ago
Except that over 25% of the residents of Tel Aviv are Muslim and are treated as equals, making them the freest and most prosperous Muslims in the Middle East if not the world.
upandopen 2 years ago
This past year has also seen: the devastating Gaza massacre of eight months ago, resulting in over 1000 civilian deaths; the election of a Prime Minister accused of war crimes; the aggressive extension of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands; the accelerated destruction of Palestinian homes and orchards; the viral growth of the totalitarian security wall, and the further enshrining of the check point system.
willquinteros 2 years ago
If Israel wanted to kill innocent Muslims, they could have nuked all the Palestinians decades ago, or they could have killed or kicked out Israel's Muslims. But they haven't done that, because they have no interest in doing that. The "massacre" was purely the result result of Israel responding to terrorists who were targeting Israeli civilians and using Palestinian ones.
Israel elected Netanyahu because of the missiles and built the wall and check points for the same reason.
upandopen 2 years ago
John Greyson and Jane Fonda and that coookooo Naomi Klein are raving antisemites.
Why don't they boycott Arab films for turning 1,000,000 Arab Jews into refugees?
Canada was stolen from the Indians so Greyson is the last to talk.
shlomofeuerwerk 2 years ago
Wonderful response, I will be attending the Tel Aviv films at the TIFF, lets all celebrate diversity, equality and Israel!
mdiker12 2 years ago
they are a a pack of dunces that usually help give Israel more of a push than a boycott. a perfect example was when these losers tried to protest Israeli wine at the ontario liquor stores. word got out quick and thousands of people turned out to buy as much Israeli wine as possible. al liquor stores in toronto were sold out of Israeli wine in about 2 hours thanks to the confederacy of useful idiots.
thenewrapstyle 2 years ago
Sickening - has the world gone absolutely mad?
boskinator 2 years ago 2