I agree, but I bet the Egyptian protestors are cognizant of your points. A positive view is that this is something like a foothold. If they can peacefully bring down Mubarak, then maybe they can the next guy as well. To some extent, the wealth of those in power is reliant upon the health of Egypt's economy, but if Egypt's economy doesn't work for the Egyptian people (which is the case right now), they've demostrated a willingness to sabatoge it (protesters blew up a natural gas pipeline).
Good - a word of caution is always wise. I'm not sure though, whether Suleiman will actually be calling the shots in Egypt. You are correct in saying, the the underlying global structure is still the same, but perhaps we are under-estimating the internal divisions within the Egyptian military . I believe that the Egyptian people are smart enough to figure out that Suleiman is unacceptable. But I understand what you are saying. I'm very concerned that a military govt will eventually side>>
@55ella2007k >> (continued): ...that a military govt will eventually side with the same players, i.e. the global financial elite, because it is in their own interest to do so. We shall see....
Like you, I join in the celebrations taking place, but I also remember the jubilant atmosphere after the fall of the Berlin Wall + the collapse of the Soviets. This transition lost its 'shine' soon thereafter, with oligarchs now ruling Russia and the former Soviet Republics. It's a very long process >
@55ella2007k >>>(continued): ...it's a very long process, and not over by a long shot. Western powers and financial oligarchs the world over, are by NOT happy with these developments in Egypt, and will try everything in their power to undermine, co-opt or otherwise slow down the momentum of 'people power'. These entities, as you mentioned, are still very powerful + it is a mistake to under-estimate their ruthless determination to keep prolonging the status quo. This fight is not over.
It is unfortunate that the people are so excited about this. The real power structure are the ones that back up Mubarak. I am not claiming power did not rest in his hands to be directed. But he, imo, is not the main source of power. The next move in his replacement (more than likely) will be a substitution that will yield the same results.
I share your point of view entirely. Just like us, the Egyptians seem to place a little too much value on the influence of their president, alone. I'm hoping some benificial change comes out of this. However, I often find myself being the pessimist, as well.
you are so on target its depressing. Replacing Mubarack with Suleman means about as much as replacing Bush with Obama. At times i resent having my cynicism confirmed.
I think your analysis is correct. The same can be said for any country specifically here in the U.S. We seem to think by changing the faces of our leaders from one party to the other is gonna bring about the change we want yet the power structure that pollutes our political system stays in place. Revolutions always come with bloodshed and we have to ask ourselves are we willing to sacrifice our lives or the life that we grown accustomed to in achieving true liberty.
listen man in 1935 Egyptians did down 10 gov in 8 month !
pulman7 11 months ago
Glad to see you still around.
Citizen88 aka Azraelsjudgement :)
Citizen88020120820 1 year ago
@dataone ??? WTF ok so then what is it about...ugh I am feeding a troll!!!
SmaragdineSage 1 year ago
I agree, but I bet the Egyptian protestors are cognizant of your points. A positive view is that this is something like a foothold. If they can peacefully bring down Mubarak, then maybe they can the next guy as well. To some extent, the wealth of those in power is reliant upon the health of Egypt's economy, but if Egypt's economy doesn't work for the Egyptian people (which is the case right now), they've demostrated a willingness to sabatoge it (protesters blew up a natural gas pipeline).
funkalunatic 1 year ago
Good - a word of caution is always wise. I'm not sure though, whether Suleiman will actually be calling the shots in Egypt. You are correct in saying, the the underlying global structure is still the same, but perhaps we are under-estimating the internal divisions within the Egyptian military . I believe that the Egyptian people are smart enough to figure out that Suleiman is unacceptable. But I understand what you are saying. I'm very concerned that a military govt will eventually side>>
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@55ella2007k >> (continued): ...that a military govt will eventually side with the same players, i.e. the global financial elite, because it is in their own interest to do so. We shall see....
Like you, I join in the celebrations taking place, but I also remember the jubilant atmosphere after the fall of the Berlin Wall + the collapse of the Soviets. This transition lost its 'shine' soon thereafter, with oligarchs now ruling Russia and the former Soviet Republics. It's a very long process >
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@55ella2007k >>>(continued): ...it's a very long process, and not over by a long shot. Western powers and financial oligarchs the world over, are by NOT happy with these developments in Egypt, and will try everything in their power to undermine, co-opt or otherwise slow down the momentum of 'people power'. These entities, as you mentioned, are still very powerful + it is a mistake to under-estimate their ruthless determination to keep prolonging the status quo. This fight is not over.
55ella2007k 1 year ago
It is unfortunate that the people are so excited about this. The real power structure are the ones that back up Mubarak. I am not claiming power did not rest in his hands to be directed. But he, imo, is not the main source of power. The next move in his replacement (more than likely) will be a substitution that will yield the same results.
The outlaw of opposition parties says it all.
EuphoricImpact 1 year ago
I share your point of view entirely. Just like us, the Egyptians seem to place a little too much value on the influence of their president, alone. I'm hoping some benificial change comes out of this. However, I often find myself being the pessimist, as well.
SiriusLupis 1 year ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 1 year ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 1 year ago
you are so on target its depressing. Replacing Mubarack with Suleman means about as much as replacing Bush with Obama. At times i resent having my cynicism confirmed.
lerch25 1 year ago
I think your analysis is correct. The same can be said for any country specifically here in the U.S. We seem to think by changing the faces of our leaders from one party to the other is gonna bring about the change we want yet the power structure that pollutes our political system stays in place. Revolutions always come with bloodshed and we have to ask ourselves are we willing to sacrifice our lives or the life that we grown accustomed to in achieving true liberty.
rezon8 1 year ago