Biblical Errors, Contradictions & Fallacies (Part 5 of 8)

[YourWrong951]

WOW, while these people try to criticize the bible all the puzzle pieces are coming together that the bible explain, These people if they dont repent are going to go on criticizing the bible while receiving the mark of the beast.

[rocketgizer]

Does he attack other faiths with all the time and resources as he has with the Bible?

[rocketgizer]

This guy is clueless!

[LeZemyr]

@MRGV7373 What you stated does not help your point in any way, sir. You basically agreed with what was said.

[MRGV7373]

This guy is funny but he does not tell any truth, nor has he show the any deep knowledge of what scripture says. His analysis is very shallow and takes much out of context, explain the changes in Jewish thought over time. Slavery existed, just like sin. Paul was taking about a slavery that was much more positive that western US slavery. The NT treatment of women was a major advancement then the present Roman idea that a women was property. This guy does not know his history either.

[gardenweed]

@MRGV7373 "Slavery existed, just like sin. Paul was taking about a slavery that was much more positive that western US slavery". Do you see what your religion does to you? Slaver is slavery, there is no good and bad. It is all bad. It was then, it is now and it will be in the future.

[MRGV7373]

@gardenweed You don't know your history very well. Slavery in Paul's time in was much more benevolent. US 1600-1800 slavery broke up families, no way to get free, hangings... was much worse that Roman slavery. I don't agree with any slavery should be allowed but in the scope of things, Roman slavery treated the person with some respect. US slavery was about as disrespectful as the world has ever know. Both are not acceptable but Romans treated them much better.

[gardenweed]

@MRGV7373 Slavery.noun

(especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. Oxford English dictionary. The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household. Free on-line dictionary.

As an atheist I do not believe that any form of slavery ever was or is acceptable. You as a Christian disagree? Once again, see what you religion does to you?

[FR0STY0115]

@MRGV7373 Umm first it wasn't just"american"slavery everyone did slavery then.And slavery is slavery.Respect or not.In war sometimes P.O.W.S are treated with respect, however they are still prisoners.In the South the southerners actually used the Bible to defend their arguments.I do agree slavery was different then,but it is still slavery.

[MRGV7373]

@FR0STY0115 Yes, you are quite correct. Slavery is bad in all instances and slavery in Roman times is still slavery. Paul wrote to slaves and told them to treat their master with respect and work hard. why, not to support slavery but that the slave would earn a good name for Christ. I don't thing Paul would have condoned slavery in our time but he did have to deal with the reality of his time when slavery was part of living by Roman law. Slaver was better than death??

[FR0STY0115]

@MRGV7373 Very reasonable.

[martyaus2905]

The bible is for morons with no brains.

[questioneverything2]

What a fool this man is, Slavery isn't even in the Bible. The word slave appears 6 times in the KJ Bible, it doesn't appear in Geneses or the first 23 books of the Bible. This man, made a full out deceptive lie to deceive Atheist. Slave appears once in the New Testament in Rev. not support it but to say it is wrong. He is a liar and a deceiver.

[questioneverything2]

The Bible doesn't support slavery! Just like it doesn't support divorce it was only offered by Abraham because of the hardness of the heart. It also said don't marry if you don't have to but if you must than do it. Slavery is the same, humans created slavery not God. Servants are not slaves they simply serve someone like a waitress at a restaurant they can be paid or owe a debt.

[questioneverything2]

I have to address this, what this man doesn't realize is: when the Bible speaks of the dead it doesn't mean dead people, it mean spiritually dead people. So the beast and dead men (spatially dead) have the same fate but the spiritually alive have an different fate. This man doesn't know he is spiritually dead. To quote this video " the dead (the man in video) know not anything" the dark cannot comprehend the light.

[wrraith450]

@questioneverything2 Where does it say that it should be taken as a metaphor for spiritually dead?

[questioneverything2]

@wrraith450 Matt 13:8 There are time where spiritual discernment is needed. The Bible tells us that it is assigned to every man to die once on the earth. That refers to dying to the world, which means to be born spiritually to God or to die in your body when it dies without spiritual awakening. Two different ways to choose death, but there is a second death, which means when the body dies and the consciousness sleeps till judgement then unable to enter heaven, some die the 2nd time...

[ianjrivers]

@questioneverything2 the biblical contradictions are obvious, nowhere in the text is there any hint of metaphor, this is just another example of grossly distorting texts to fit a particular christian viewpoint. The church has had over 16 centuries to come up with stretched narratives to explain the contradictions........

[questioneverything2]

@ianjrivers Evil sees but is blind it hears but is deaf. Or the darkness can't see the light or understand the light. Of all the scriptures in the bible you have proven these two to be true.

[ianjrivers]

@questioneverything2 You sound as brainwashed as I used to be in my youth, when I was a Christian in the Pentecostal church, thank goodness I eventually left, I would hate to be as comfortable inferring people are 'evil' for having different viewpoints as you seem to be.

[questioneverything2]

@ianjrivers I shouldn't of used the word evil, my intent was to express that if someone unwilling to understand the spiritual message then they are blinded by their beliefs. You said, " Where does it say that it should be taken as a metaphor for spiritually dead?" By "IT" I'm assuming you mean the bible. Mat 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables.>> continue<<

[questioneverything2]

@ianjrivers Con't Mark 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them:Mark 4:but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables. Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: I don't think I need to tell you that a metaphor and a parable are very similar.

[topfifth99]

ONE AGAIN WE HAVE THE DEVIL TRYING TO INTERPRETE THE BIBLE AND FAILS SO MISERABLY

WHAT ARE THESE CHAPTERS TEACHING WHY DOES HE NOT QUOTE THE CONTEXT OF THESE CHAPTERS INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING VERSES THAT SUPPORT HIS WARPED AGENDA (if you are going to accuse a book of something i suggest you be fair and quote in context of the story line instead of just making comments about statements without context, sure you can make any book say anything taking that approach) once again dishonest (aganda)

[honeyblossom17]

@topfifth99- Wow, ok so when someone goes aganist your beliefs you call them satan?

He didn't have an aganda, he was just telling you what's wrong with your ''perfect'', and ''god givin'' book.

[topfifth99]

@honeyblossom17 - i am sorry but this man is clearly a liar period

[honeyblossom17]

@topfifth99- Have you ever even looked in the bible yourself? I have. I know he's telling the truth. Maybe just maybe your scared to find out that the bible isn't all you were made to believe. Question the bible for yourself and don't make any exuses for it, then get back to me.

[JOOGAL1111]

@topfifth99 i,ve never read the bible myself so i was interested in your comment on him lying.do you mean he,s making up the passages and contradictions or is he misquoting the text what do you mean. Or is it you refuse to believe he can be telling the truth ? Because having spoken to other christians on this matter everything he says (according to them) is indeed in the bible. They never said he was a liar.

[guayacan07]

@topfifth99L: questioning is not evil

[Mythik88]

@0:49 quote taken out of context. It was referring to the nature of evil in this world, this existence, not of the afterlife.

Ecclesiastes 9:3-4

"This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead. Anyone who is among the living has hope--even a live dog is better off than a dead lion..."

[choongd]

@Mythik88 oooh 1 out of what a bagillion?

[rubel579]

Who fuck bible???//////s,paul

[mzyzer19]

It's funny that he quotes Jefferson Davis president of the confederate states Inregards to slavery and the bible. And the fact that the suceeded states are the majority whom profess the bibles validity

[spearhead8585]

PEOPLE READ THE CORRECT TRANSLATIONS OF THE QURAN AND THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM. THESE PEOPLE WHO WE REGARD AS IGNORANT CAMEL JOKES, ACTUALLY DO HAVE LOGICAL ANSWERS ABOUT GOD.

JUST FORGET ABOUT YOUR SKIN COLOR, WHAT BACK GROUND YOU COME FROM , WHAT YOUR PARENTS TOLD U AND HOW UGREW UP. LEARN ABOUT ISLAM THROW "SUNNI MUSLIMS THEM SELVES" NOT THROW WESTERN PHILOSOPHERS , YOU WILL SEE IT IS THE ONLY RELIGION THAT ACTUALLY TRULY MAKES SENSE. ASK THE MUSLIMS THEY WILL ANSWER THEY DON'T HIDE THE TRUTH.

[22ernman]

This guy is in idiot. I can see fault in everything he says.

[Airbornebull]

@22ernman type the fault. dont keep it to yourself

[lilchris10kid]

Wow I didn't even type that below lol

[lilchris10kid]

Athiests are retarded and are all going to hell

[vaiboy55]

@lilchris10kid I am an atheist and you say im going to hell......prove it fucktard. you can't prove it because it does not exist so a big fat STFU to you! christian pleb.

[1984vrs]

In the Tanakh there was no afterlife as it is seen now. But Jesus usherd in the afterlife. Hince the tree of life.

[SummerSunshine1988]

God does exist, and the Bible is without flaw.

[thisisatimeoftruth]

Yes, the Bible does defend Slavery so that means the slaves had no free will because they were owned by the rich! Why do people believe Bible lies when they know the Bible is not true? I see all people not their color. I believe the only difference in people is the way they think and on what they think. Number chapter 31 is really scary to me and people who believe this stuff scare me too.

[TruthLikeWater]

The Bible is truth & factually accurate. Back then people would willfully sell themselves in to bondage for 7 years for food and shelter (Jews to other Jews, etc.) In the Bible it tells slaves how to act to receive the blessing of God. the people in that story were devil worshipers who would sacrifice their own children in fires(balaam) and they were supposed to kill them so the evil would be snuffed. 1 time the Jews refused & the people became whats now Islam. evil & oppressed. Research TRUTH.

[Tiny1Love]

Thank you for teaching me more about the Bible i am gona be a better Christian now , thank you for beeing so blind .

[warwithangels]

@Tiny1Love WhyYewWanna Cling Tew Yer SUPERSTITIONS?!! Emancipate Yerself!! FREEDOM FROM RELIGION NOWNOWNOW!! BE FEARLESS!!

[lnewsome]

Why do atheist feel the need to debate believers. Do ya'll spend December going around telling kids there is no Santa? How are you hurt by others believing?

[shadowsfall74]

It's usually the believers who debate atheists, not the other way around. It just pisses hardcore believers that someone else doesn't believe like they do, even challenge them.

[multard]

This is a really silly question, and for many reasons. The Santa analogy couldn't be more worthless. If believers left me alone about my beliefs, I'd return the favor. They seem quite incapable of this, as it turns out. Also, if Christianity is false (which I believe it is), then that matters immeasurably. The truth matters. The fact that so many people put stock in an obviously erroneous text matters.

[lnewsome]

The truth matters? Santa is not the truth. I can't believe you are ok with this lie being told to so many children. What with you being a champion of the truth and all.

[koreindian1]

It's because we'd all like to believe that adults demand and deserve the truth.

And I would be very careful in comparing your god to Santa Claus.

[lnewsome]

Kids don't deserve the truth?

[lnewsome]

If you read more carefully you will understand that I was not comparing God to Santa Claus I was comparing your reaction to the believe in God to your reaction to the believe in Sant Clause. If truth is really your motivation then Santa Clause should be on your target list.

[ViralMessiah]

I know your statement is 9 months old,but i feel like it needs to be answered,Santa doesn't impose his false sense of morality upon Jews,or other people who don't celebrate christmas. Christians on the other hand hold nearly every political office in the US,and make,and have made nearly all of the laws,on the contrast,most people who are atheists believe that christianity is a poison to society,and believing in things that have ZERO proof,should exclude one from office,universally

[lnewsome]

I believe your problem is with religion not God. The irony being that when Jesus was on earth he had a big problem with the politics of religion also.

[ViralMessiah]

no,you're wrong there,i have a problem with religion,as i don't tolerate anything that claims to be fact,and never produces a single one. however,my biggest problem is with the god of the bible,and anyone who had read the bible,and hasn't gotten caught up in the harry potter parts of it,would know why,it's a lie,and it's full,cover to cover,of that god,doing evil acts

[ViralMessiah]

ask yourself this,god knows all that has been,and ever will be? the bible says he does,but he gets into a bet with satan about Job? he knows the outcome,and still lets satan kill everything Job loves,and almost kill Job,for no reason,he has nothing to gain,he has nothing to lose,so he turned Satan on Job,just for the sake of doing it,THAT is as evil as a deity can be,evil for the sake of evil

[lnewsome]

Why is that evil?  Because you say so? Because a majority of people agree that it is evil? The majority used to think slavery wasn't evil. Without God there is no good or evil there is just opinion. In your opinion what happened to Job was evil.

[ViralMessiah]

yes,that is the definition of evil,what the majority of people think is evil,is what evil means. thats how language works. it's not my opinion,if you relay that story to a thousand people,with all of the facts involved,but leave out the bible,EVERYONE will say that it was evil,done for the sake of evil,and nothing more. christians are willing to ignore that,amongst thousands of other atrocities entirely because they want to believe the bible. their standards change to suit their religion

[ViralMessiah]

and without god there is no good or evil? so,god gave us evil? that sounds pretty evil in and of itself. man you christians are amazingly ignorant sometimes. if god invented evil,then he IS evil,if he didn't,then he's not god...go ask your pastor about that and come back when you have a good answer

[lnewsome]

Can there be good without evil?

[ViralMessiah]

what difference does that make? god can do ANYTHING..including make a world without evil,or not putting a stupid tree in a garden,where he knew it'd be eaten,would white still be white if we didn't have black? yes,would we have a full scale to judge it on,no...but does that really matter? god makes all the rules of the universe,we only need evil to see good,because god says we do,guess what,he could just as easily say we don't right? moral of this story is,god likes evil,or we wouldn't have it

[lnewsome]

I'm no scientist but I believe if we did not have white we would not have black but that is neither here nor there. I will agree with your point that God created an environment where evil must exist for there to be good.  My question is by what basis do you determine that to be a bad thing? IMHO I would rather have the risk of evil so that I may have the possibility of good.

[ViralMessiah]

well it's a bad thing,because evil,by definition,is the opposite of good. me,if i could create a universe,i think i'd make it 100% good,people won't miss evil if they never knew anything of it. but i'm a bit more logical than the writers of the bible apparently

[lnewsome]

Your people wouldn't have free will then.

[ViralMessiah]

neither do his,the bible says this is all pre-determined. and even if that weren't the case,saying,follow me or fucking suffer! is not free will,not any more than if i stuck a gun to someones head and said blow me or die,if that person did blow me,would you consider that a decision made on free will? thats coersion by definition

[lnewsome]

Well now you just have a misunderstanding of the Bible.

[ViralMessiah]

hahah,christians always say that...the difference between you and i,is that i have actually read it

[lnewsome]

We were having an intelligent debate but then you got personal about things you have no knowledge of. How could you possibly know whether or not I have read the Bible? Having read the Bible do you not think it is complex enough for two people to read it and come away with two different understandings?

[ViralMessiah]

sure it's very complex,and nearly impossible to make any sense of,which is another reason i don't believe any god had a hand in writing it,what loving and caring god would want anyone to go to hell because of grammatical errors,of which there are many. but if you read it,and didn't get the "do what i say,or else" we're not having a misunderstanding,you just haven't read it,because there are several cases where "do what i say or else" is damned near a quote

[TruthLikeWater]

It was good 100%, man & lucifer made it imperfect. freewill is the decision to choose pleasure now, pain later or pain now pleasure later. The smart decision is Christianity. The foolish one is pleasure on Earth

[ViralMessiah]

@TruthLikeWater god makes the rules,sees all things,knows all things,we don't need evil,he wanted it. we don't even HAVE free will,thats just an illusion. if i say give me your wallet and i'll make you a millionaire,don't and i'll shoot you in the face,the police would hardly consider that free will,but when god says worship me and go to heaven,or don't,and suffer forever,thats free will? thats the stupidest definition of the term i've ever heard. coercion is the word that fits best. nice god

[MrJamesbond22]

@TruthLikeWater So a Christian shouldn't want to have enjoyment and pleasure now?! That thinking might

have been fine back in the 12th century when most peoples lives was very harsh,but it's not now!

[TruthLikeWater]

God doesn't like evil, satan was his head angel who rebelled. Lucifer was created perfect in all his ways, but iniquity was found in him. It was not put there by God. Lucifer created it.

(Ezekiel 28:15-17 )Because sin had entered the world, and into the very nature of man through Adams transgression, then for God to destroy Satan, he would also have had to destroy the man he loved. But God had a better way. A way of Redemption.

And Christ the Redeemer was on His way! God is fair to all,man&angel

[lnewsome]

In the part about sexism why does he leave out the next part where husbands are commanded to love their wifes as Christ loved the church? Remember Christ died for the church. Someone more confident in their position would not be afraid to give the entire passage.

[klomckin]

What difference does it make if husbands are commanded to love their wives when the husbands are commanded to rule over their wives. Telling Hitler to love his people does not eliminate the dictarship, the arbitrary rule, or the complete subservience of one group to the whims of another. Loving someone does not eliminate complete inequality and injustice. One can easily be unjust to someone one loves thinking they are not unjust, especially if they have no restraints.

[lnewsome]

You and I have a different definition of love. The love Jesus had for the church was one so great that he died for it. That kind of love as is describe in 1 Chorinthians 13 is not the kind that would treat the object of that love unjustly. You didn't answer the question of why leave that part out? If it didn't make a difference then he would have included he left it out because it hurts his case.

[grozde]

@lnewsome

Great point! But the thing is, this makes it all even worse:

Women are ORDERED to subdue to their husbands;

Men are Ordered to LOVE their wives.

How could you ORDER someone to LOVE?? Commanding one's feelings is even worse than commanding one's behaviour!!!

Your god is a dictator of UNIMAGINABLE degree and you holy book is despicable, sorry!

[hansomerob3]

Whats the name of this gentlemen's book. I want to buy it

[Domzdream]

I noticed there aren't many arguments in these clips. What's wrong christians? Cat got your tongue?? It's cause the proof is in the pudding, and you'd rather not hear about how full of shit your book is, but would rather spend their lives in a happy bubble.

I'll be recommending these clips to many christians from now.

[klomckin]

Christians don't reply because they don't know what to say after having been buried in an avalanche of facts and evidence. They do, indeed, prefer a feel-good bubble. Your assessment is correct. The best to you. Dennis

[CPTBlackDragon07]

@Domzdream I don't worry about it. I know that when he dies he will burn in Hell. I takes different Scrptures out of context and most of them he doesn't even read the entire Scripture! He doesn't know the Hebrew, Greek, or Latin! The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. A few parts, such as half of the Book of Daniel, are in Aramaic.

[CornishHeretic]

Of course the bi-bull is sexist - It was written by desert dwelling MEN, for their own purposes. More people need to listen to this 'lecture', these are some great debate points.

[klomckin]

Thanks for the support, CornishHeretic. I hope many will follow your advice.